you think he'd quit smoking
 

no sympathy at all for him

Sorry, I realize that he's an adult who's responsible for his own actions but he's also an addict, just as another prominent member of the band once was. I do feel sympathy for the man and hope that he can find a way to give up smoking. Another one of my favorites, Leonard Nimoy, passed away earlier this year due to COPD after years of smoking. As both a Fleetwood Mac and Star Trek fan, I want to see John live longer and prosper.:nod:

It depends on what type of colorectal cancer he had. Cigarette smoking increases the risk of MSI-H CRC, while alcohol intake increases the risk MSI-L CRC. According to Christine, he gave up drinking after the diagnosis. So, reading between the lines, his cancer was probably related more to his heavy alcohol use.

Yes, but surely now he's on a strict health plan with a diet and meds and it isn't wise to take them while smoking anyway.

I'm certainly no doctor, but...
surely if you've smoked heavily all your life, by the time you reach that age it isn't going to make the blindest bit of difference to your future health whether you give up or not. The damage to your lungs in particular would be pretty much irreparable.
Arguably, a smoking addict giving up something they've relied on so much after such a long time would hit the body more and likely have a huge impact on the immune system.
...but I'm no doctor!

It seems a little disingenuous to judge how much someone smokes by a video shot at the airport after a long flight.

Whether or not people smoke is not at all my business .... regardless of the circumstances. Who knows whether he is actually self medicating in this way? Lots of people with colitis etc. smoke to relieve symptoms.

Leonard Nimoy hadn't smoked in over 30 years when he died. Which proves the point that someone else made, the damage had been done.

What in the devil, John? Could you HAVE more assistants? Next thing I know, he's going to have his own back up singers.

So, he and Lindsey didn't want to hug goodbye?

Michele

I was surprised too to see him smoking after beating cancer. But it's a hard addiction to break. I haven't smoked since my early 20's, but I still have an occasional craving.

It makes me sad. I love John McVie and wish him a long and healthy life. But, nobody's perfekt.

Nimoy was already in his 50's when he quit and lived another 30 years. John is pushing 70 but apparently is still smoking. His habit will continue to have a negative impact on his health and will make it much less likely that he will live as long as Nimoy did. COPD is not at all a pleasant way to go.

Here is a quote from a Wikipedia article regarding COPD:

In those who smoke, stopping smoking is the only measure shown to slow down the worsening of COPD.[59] Even at a late stage of the disease, it can reduce the rate of worsening lung function and delay the onset of disability and death.[60]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroni...monary_disease

What a goof. That's for everyone who smokes
these days.

On a side note...
I would get so tired of people filming me everywhere
I went. The life of a Rock $tar.

John McVie is a bass player, not a rock star, and I don't mean that in a derogatory way. He's gone out of the way to not be one. He doesn't aim for the spotlight and he mostly quit giving interviews. His job is to show up, play bass, and go home or to the hotel. That's not to say he doesn't take pride in his work, but it's his job. He's a namesake of a hugely popular band, but nothing in how he conducts himself suggests he puts any stock whatsoever in his perceived celebrity status.

The fact that he was seen coughing, makes the smoking seem even worse of course.

But heaven knows I sometimes have an uncontrollable cough (that overtakes me at the most embarassing times) and I haven't smoked a day in my life.

Interesting to see that even though John gets recognized least often of the 5. He still has to deal with frequent interruptions -- at least at LAX.

Michele

I'm impressed and/or stunned that people have material to be signed. All I have is my I-touch when at LAX. lol

I love Lindsey, but I really love John. Interesting to see that the person chose to follow him with the camera and not Lindsey. You go John!!

yeah the cigarette police was out in full force. Notice how they zoomed in as he was taking a puff? Funny. It was cool to see him sign autographs. I also like how Lindsey was carrying his own guitar. Just struck me as funny.

That was fun to watch because we RARELY get any live views of John but am I the only one that thinks this was filmed a couple of years ago and posted as if it is new? Look at the man's stomach. He hasn't carried that excessive weight after his cancer treatments.

You're right. I asked myself the same thing.

It must have been people that expected to see them at the airport and had their memorabilia ready for that purpose. I mean, they wouldn't just be strolling along the street with their FM album in hand. I hope.

Michele

Derogatory? Neither was my statement about being a "rock star".

What I was thinking was about his patience. With the fans or professional
autograph hounds. Or simply just waiting to be picked up by the limo. Far
from glamorous, this part of being a Rock $tar.

The waiting to be picked up by a limo isn't so bad. I have to lug my luggage to the parking lot, so I'd welcome a chauffeur.

But no, I wouldn't want people taking pictures of me in my private life or interrupting me at dinner and the lot.

Michele

I guess Lindsey carries his guitar when he travels so that he can noodle around and constantly come up with ideas... he has loads of guitars as part of the tour- it seems funny for him to carry one home with him.

Either that or he enjoys being recognized as a rock star.

just a speculation, but we know that he has no access to all of the guitars that are a part of the tour since they are with the rest of the equipment which takes weeks to ship from the UK back to the US, and then probably back to AUS. he seems to be using most of his guitars on tour, since when he did the USC gig in between the legs, he had no access to his own guitars, both acoustic and electric, and he was using his guitar tech's guitars for that gig (many noted different guitars than what he is normally using when watching the youtube coverage of his Apr 29 USC gig).

so if he wants to have one of his guitars available to him between tour legs, to either work on new music or noodle around, he has to bring one with him on the plane, it would seem.

hmmm... I can envision a room full of guitars at his home studio.... :woohoo:

I guess that hand gesture thing from John and the high wave over the head from LB is as bromancy as those two get. (Insert Tim Allen grunt). :eek:

yeah one would right? apparently not the ones he can use for gigs. he said he's using all his guitars, that he's not a collector. remember also that USC gig he did back at the beginning of 2012 when his guitars were still back enroute from the ill-fated UK solo gigs? he used some beat up strat or something that he said was the only guitar he had available. said it was one of the first real guitars he bought.

to me it looks like they are waving and gesturing to someone behind them, not saying goodbye to each other, since the 2 of them walked together for a while after that. LB turns all the way behind him and waves really high.

I wonder how Mick and Lindsey part. I bet they touch as they bid adieu. Michele

Remember how Chris said that after the RRHOF in 1998 they didn't even say goodbye. They just all got in their rides and drove off, because they'd already said it all after the last Dance show. Michele

I was wondering about that... Lindsey seems to be waving to someone way behind:shrug: but John makes a gesture while it seems he's looking at Lindsey.

I'm sure by this point they're soooo ready for a little time apart, and not necessarily in a horrible or bad way, just fatigued.

guess that fits with the same stretched out tee shirts and boots with duct tape and all that...

Does anybody actually know how old this video is.Looking at the source of this video on Youtube which looks like one of those rubbish rag mag YT channels.It reminds me of the crap in the stands at the cash checkouts at my supermarket.

He needs those assistants to keep his cigarette stash in stock. I assume he is the only one in the band that still smokes them.

Stevie had a passing phase smoking Kools. Lindsey must have smoked cigarettes for a time -- he is seen smoking on stage in the Mirage concert video. Christine used to smoke cigarettes, but I assume she quit a long time ago. I don't think Mick has ever been a smoker (pot exemption for all them).

Richard said Lindsey never smoked cigarettes (tobacco ones). In addition to the Mirage video, there are a number of pictures of him smoking something; I always assume it's a joint.

A well-founded assumption. :nod: And, also remember that during "Not That Funny", John came over for a toke.

I'm going to have to go with olive on this. I really don't have much sympathy for him. John had Colon Cancer. Drinking & Smoking are major cause of Colon Cancer. Yes, John was a heavy drinker (and as of 1997, still is) Smoking is a huge factor too.

No, smoking increases the likelihood of all cancers, including colon cancer but it is not one of the major causes for colon cancer. Far more significant are poor (fatty, low fibre) diets, lack of physical fitness and significant alcohol consumption.

Bloke's a grown up. He can do whatever he wants. Let he who casts the first stone and all that...