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elle 06-30-2015 09:43 AM

Buckingham - this tour could be the last one in current incarnation
 
i wish they elaborated or gave some context to this:

"Buckingham has stated this tour could well be it. The last one with such a line-up in its current incarnation. But new songs are now written, and an album might follow."

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorks...-mac-1-7333100

James89 06-30-2015 10:44 AM

Well that's weird. Obviously if it was Stevie not being up for another tour then it would've mentioned it. Something taken out of context and put as the headline by the looks of it.

welcomechris 06-30-2015 10:55 AM

My thoughts on what will happen

Fleetwood Mac (and Stevie!) will record the new album this fall to winter and release it in the spring. Stevie will record 24KG #2 in the spring and tour in the summer. Lindsey will record a final solo album. Christine & John will retire. Mick & Rick will tour as the MFBB.

elle 06-30-2015 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1169012)
My thoughts on what will happen

Fleetwood Mac (and Stevie!) will record the new album this fall to winter and release it in the spring. Stevie will record 24KG #2 in the spring and tour in the summer. Lindsey will record a final solo album. Christine & John will retire. Mick & Rick will tour as the MFBB.


a friend participated in Mick's m&g at the last London show and said i could share what Mick said:

"He said they are doing a new album but because of this tour and Australia they won't be sitting down till around March cause they finish in December and they want a break to relax and unwind. Then they will be working throughout March to get the album out and he said stevie likes to do her solo stuff so if she has time to do a few songs then christine and lindsey can work around that and produce it.

Someone asked how many more years do u have left he said maybe 4 or 5 depending on how people feel.

He said I wanna go back out in two years again but we have to see where everyone is at and if it can happen cause he said the other bands can go out and they don't need to ask anyone they just say this is what's happening. But fleetwood mac is different, 5 individuals that have a equal say in what happens so if one can't go then they can't go.

He says he can't fill out stadiums on his own but he is blessed to do what he does for so long."

elle 06-30-2015 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by James89 (Post 1169011)
Well that's weird. Obviously if it was Stevie not being up for another tour then it would've mentioned it. Something taken out of context and put as the headline by the looks of it.

lol unlike usual. ;)

Stevie has been pretty clear in recent interviews that she has had enough of touring with FM. which doesn't mean she won't change her mind. there were some indications she had to be talked into Australia.

WildHearted 06-30-2015 12:23 PM

Well, I think they're all sort of realizing the fact that by the time it takes to finish this tour, take a few years off and start again... it's a very real possibility that some of them may not be in good enough form physically or could be at a place in life where they're just not interested, given their ages.

Dragon 06-30-2015 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1169015)
lol unlike usual. ;)

Stevie has been pretty clear in recent interviews that she has had enough of touring with FM. which doesn't mean she won't change her mind. there were some indications she had to be talked into Australia.

Since Say You Will, Stevie has toured more than record. She should have recorded and released a studio album in the mid-2000's, or released several live albums from many tours.

FuzzyPlum 06-30-2015 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1169013)
a friend participated in Mick's m&g at the last London show and said i could share what Mick said:

"He said they are doing a new album but because of this tour and Australia they won't be sitting down till around March cause they finish in December and they want a break to relax and unwind. Then they will be working throughout March to get the album out and he said stevie likes to do her solo stuff so if she has time to do a few songs then christine and lindsey can work around that and produce it.

Someone asked how many more years do u have left he said maybe 4 or 5 depending on how people feel.

He said I wanna go back out in two years again but we have to see where everyone is at and if it can happen cause he said the other bands can go out and they don't need to ask anyone they just say this is what's happening. But fleetwood mac is different, 5 individuals that have a equal say in what happens so if one can't go then they can't go.

He says he can't fill out stadiums on his own but he is blessed to do what he does for so long."

that sounds fairly encouraging.

AncientQueen 06-30-2015 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1169024)
that sounds fairly encouraging.

Yes, and I like that :). In the context of the FM interview, it does not even seem to be something that Lindsey said, rather a summary.

elle 06-30-2015 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1169024)
that sounds fairly encouraging.

see to me this sounds like more hoping and praying and waiting... the way they have been doing since at least 2009, and what resulted in 2 last nostalgia tours, tons of money for the band, but no real new releases.

that summation of what Lindsey said seems much more encouraging to me, like we may actually get something fairly soon. but then when you take Mick's statements, you see that's just Lindsey's wishful thinking and at least 2 out of 5 members don't agree.

nicole21290 06-30-2015 02:33 PM

"Buckingham has stated this tour could well be it."

To me, the above statement reads like the journalist is paraphrasing what Lindsey has said someplace else, some other time. If he had said it to the interviewer, surely he would have put it like this:

"Buckingham states this tour could well be it."

Or something that gives the paper some credit for the information like "During our conversation, Buckingham stated..."

Might be me being a pedant and maybe it is something he said to the journo, off course. The phrasing just seems off to me.

elle 06-30-2015 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1169030)
"Buckingham has stated this tour could well be it."

To me, the above statement reads like the journalist is paraphrasing what Lindsey has said someplace else, some other time. If he had said it to the interviewer, surely he would have put it like this:

"Buckingham states this tour could well be it."

Or something that gives the paper some credit for the information like "During our conversation, Buckingham stated..."

Might be me being a pedant and maybe it is something he said to the journo, off course. The phrasing just seems off to me.

yeah you could be right. maybe journalist summarized something LB has said in the past, or something he told him in person. he did seem to have talked to him in person for the article:

“I didn’t really know exactly what Christine McVie was up to in those missing years,” says a sprightly 65-year-old Lindsey Buckingham. “She pretty much took permanent leave of the performing world and moved back to England and lived somewhere out in the country.”

it's weird because the tweet from the paper is quoting LB, but other than the quote i pasted above there are no other direct quotes from Lindsey there -

The Yorkshire Post ‏@yorkshirepost 7h7 hours ago
Lindsey Buckingham prepares for tonight's @fleetwoodmac gig at @fdarena #FleetwoodMac http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorks...-mac-1-7333100

either way, it's nothing new - Lindsey and Mick have each been saying basically the same thing during their various and frequent fan encounters and m&gs since the tour started. Mick still seems to be hoping they'll get SN on board, and LB still seems to be open to various different options that may get new FM music finally out. the ball just keeps getting pushed down the court timewise, to the next break they have from tour, in each new interview. last time there was i think an interview from Christine where she was saying they'll work on new album during the break before AUS/NZ. now it's after the tour finishes and they get a 3 month break.

Macfan4life 06-30-2015 03:20 PM

I think many are reading way too much into quotes here or there. The group is just finishing a HUGE world tour of about 100 shows and they have not even went to Australia yet. Some are tired and not making future plans while on this beast of a tour. Like Mick said no decisions will be made until the tour is complete and everyone is rested. Until then I wont dissect and analyze every word on interviews of what may or may not happen after this tour.

elle 06-30-2015 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1169032)
I think many are reading way too much into quotes here or there. The group is just finishing a HUGE world tour of about 100 shows and they have not even went to Australia yet. Some are tired and not making future plans while on this beast of a tour. Like Mick said no decisions will be made until the tour is complete and everyone is rested. Until then I wont dissect and analyze every word on interviews of what may or may not happen after this tour.

you don't have to, it's your prerogative to conclude whatever makes you happy - this is all entertainment after all. :)

the fact remains that Mick and Lindsey have been saying exact same things since the tour started.

the fatigue of the tour has not changed their minds, but maybe makes them less careful about what they say in public interviews vs what they just say in one on one encounters and m&gs. nothing has changed and nobody is reading anything extra that has not been said by the band members over and over since the tour started (or even before since april 2014 when Mick first brought it up at some book signing).

MikeVielhaber 06-30-2015 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1169034)
you don't have to, it's your prerogative to conclude whatever makes you happy - this is all entertainment after all. :)

the fact remains that Mick and Lindsey have been saying exact same things since the tour started.

the fatigue of the tour has not changed their minds, but maybe makes them less careful about what they say in public interviews vs what they just say in one on one encounters and m&gs. nothing has changed and nobody is reading anything extra that has not been said by the band members over and over since the tour started (or even before since april 2014 when Mick first brought it up at some book signing).

Likewise, Stevie's message has stayed the same since SYW. Not interested in a FM album.

Macfan4life 06-30-2015 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1169034)
you don't have to, it's your prerogative to conclude whatever makes you happy - this is all entertainment after all. :)

the fact remains that Mick and Lindsey have been saying exact same things since the tour started.

the fatigue of the tour has not changed their minds, but maybe makes them less careful about what they say in public interviews vs what they just say in one on one encounters and m&gs. nothing has changed and nobody is reading anything extra that has not been said by the band members over and over since the tour started (or even before since april 2014 when Mick first brought it up at some book signing).

Yes but I wont fester over and over again and again about subtle hypothetical statements. In their own hearts, they don't even know for sure what the future holds. If it was May 2016 and Lindsey said this and Stevie announced her plans then its worthy of discussion.
The endless "Stevie has not committed to the new album" seems a bit far fetched without anything concrete.
Lets wait and see.
But put me down for a bet. Save this thread. I will bet all 5 will record an album together next year. If I am wrong, I will come back to write "I was wrong" over and over 50 times.
;)

SteveMacD 06-30-2015 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1169035)
Likewise, Stevie's message has stayed the same since SYW. Not interested in a FM album.

The difference now being that the band could still be viable without her, so she has to be careful how she plays her hand.

michelej1 06-30-2015 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1169013)
"He said they are doing a new album but because of this tour and Australia they won't be sitting down till around March cause they finish in December and they want a break to relax and unwind. Then they will be working throughout March to get the album out and he said stevie likes to do her solo stuff so if she has time to do a few songs then christine and lindsey can work around that and produce it.

I love this. It sounds like they're doing an album, doing it in a month and if Stevie contributes that's great. If she doesn't ... it sounds like March is March, with or without her. Plus, they are going to do an album and not insist on touring with it. They aren't going to use the need to tour or to have Stevie as a reason for more delay.

That is what I've wanted from them all along, but it's too good to be true that they'd really do it.

Michele

michelej1 06-30-2015 08:01 PM

Yorkshire Post Tuesday 30 June 2015 Monday 29 June 2015

http://www.yorkshirepost.co.uk/yorks...-mac-1-7333100

Fleetwood Mac, complete with returning member Christine McVie, are on tour and head to Leeds this week. Andy Threlfall reports

It’s been 15 years since Cumbrian-born Christine McVie retired from Fleetwood Mac, but now she is back, completing the classic Rumours-era line-up of the band on the current tour.

“I didn’t really know exactly what Christine McVie was up to in those missing years,” says a sprightly 65-year-old Lindsey Buckingham. “She pretty much took permanent leave of the performing world and moved back to England and lived somewhere out in the country.”
But now she’s back and that has meant the band’s live show is receiving unparalleled critical plaudits reinvigorated as it is by classics like You Make Loving Fun, Everywhere and Songbird (which closed the London 02 show I witnessed) penned and sung by Christine who turns 72 next month.

For a band famed for its musical chemistry and fabled failed relationships, to close it’s homecoming show with just one (the returning) member at the piano was startling. Art at its most naked. Stripped bare. The song. The voice.

Whichever way you want to decipher this moment after two and a half hours, the sheer brilliance remains intact of this band who can select a 25-song setlist matched only in gargantuan sales figures and magnificence by fellow Brits who still dominate American radio the Rolling Stones, Pink Floyd, Led Zeppelin & The Beatles.

If the return of McVie had been one cause for celebration, that of ex-husband John to the current tour is even more poignant. He very nearly didn’t make it.

As Stevie Nicks told me during our meeting near her Malibu home last year: “John was very ill so we had to come off the road. But he did what he had to do. He went back to his home in Hawaii and he dealt with it. He is an incredible man.”

So the circle is complete again. The battles are never completely resolved in Fleetwood Mac, the scars are deep and often on the surface, but the result is a catalogue of songs so magnificent there is an insatiable appetite to hear them live by this incarnation, the five who made the 40 million seller Rumours.

The world tour has sold out in record time. When Adele met Nicks an hour before they took to the stage at the 02, she proclaimed it, without any sense of hyperbole “THE best night of my life. I love you Stevie Nicks!! The queen of melodies! Thanks for everything.”

Beyonce and Taylor Swift namecheck her as the greatest influence on their singing and songwriting. Leeds is getting a double helping with the band playing two dates at Leeds Arena. Pinch yourself Yorkshire.

Stevie is sanguine when we discuss life, love, Lindsey, near-death and music. “My Dad became the chairman of Canadian Labatts beer, so it was always like there was was alcohol around!”

She laughs at the thought. And what of Lindsey? Who was her then boyfriend in 1975 when he insisted to Mick Fleetwood “If I join your band, my girlfriend must join as well,” the masterstroke that resulted in this seminal rock band.

“I live just 10 minutes from Lindsey now. It is what it is between Lindsey and I – a love affair, not reciprocated as it once was of course – but yes it still happens for us whenever we meet. It still feels a little like the undying love affair, although he’s now a family man of course. He has three teenage kids.

“We talk on the phone, but we don’t hang out like I do especially with Mick and his family who are exactly like ‘Meet The Fockers’ except it’s ‘Meet The Fleetwoods’. I always go to his and we watch the Grammys together or The Oscars. I was sure we would always get back together every few years to play these amazing songs again.”

But is she sometimes amazed that she survived the drugs? “I can’t believe that I’m actually alive it’s true. A plastic surgeon told me that if I took one more line of cocaine I would soon have a brain haemorrhage. Actually he told me that I could really drop dead someday.

So I stopped. I feel healthier than I’ve felt in 30 years because I’m sober, I don’t really drink any more and I don’t do drugs. I was not in good shape for many, many years. I am very, very blessed to still be here.

“Prescription drug abuse nearly killed me as much as the cocaine. I’m pretty sure that after eight years on that stuff that if I’d not checked myself in to hospital for 47 days I would be dead. Absolutely. I would not be here today. I knew that I was on my way out.”

Do you feel like the poster girl for surviving the 70s and 80s rock and roll excesses I ask her. “Yes, a little. Do I feel like 
the godmother to Britney, Lindsay Lohan, etc? Yes. But when I look at Britney Spears or a Lindsay Lohan I do think they should have learnt from my generation of rock stars... 
but nobody ever does. I should have learnt myself from people like Hendrix and Joplin but I didn’t. I don’t think anyone can tell a drug addict to stop.”

“It’s ironic,” I say, “You sing “Don’t Stop Thinking About Tomorrow…”

“I know.” She stops. A tear? Maybe.

Buckingham has stated this tour could well be it. The last one with such a line-up in its current incarnation. But new songs are now written, and an album might follow.

However, as the penultimate English date on the world tour, followed by Scotland, Ireland, Australia and New Zealand, the Leeds Arena show in July might well be the last time one of the five or six biggest bands of the last 40 years plays in the North of England. Keep your ticket stub and frame it.

• Fleetwood Mac are currently on a world tour. They will be playing at Leeds Arena on June 30 and July 5. www.ticketmaster.co.uk

He's So Unusual 07-03-2015 09:13 AM

*Yawns and falls asleep*


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