Unpopular Stevie opinions
 

What opinions do you have about Stevie which generally are pretty unpopular / others won't neccessarily agree with? I had this idea earlier in the day while listening to The Wild Heart. I know everyone obsesses over the dressing room version, but, I think the studio version is sublime (even when she's ranting about angels and children) and the superior version.

Others I thought of...

The original version of Silver Springs (chorus of Stevie's et all) is the best. It beats The Dance one hands down.

TOSOTM and SA should basically not exist. Terrible albums with a handful of good songs.

The best version of Twisted is on 24 Karat Gold.

Stevie's songs saved SYW from being terrible, and Silver Girl isn't all that bad either.

Moonlight > Lady From The Mountains.

Do you guys have any unpopular opinions on Stevie?

Silver Springs on The Dance wasn't that special. The song was much more rousing and dynamic on the actual tour.

Michele

Sure I have unpopular or unconventional opinions that maybe are not the majority opinions here.

I love Street Angel
I don't care for TISL
I love TOSOTM
I don't care for 24 K gold but I like the original demos better (especially all the beautiful worlds)
I like the pre-Betty Ford clinic Stevie the most
Most of Rock a little does not appeal to me
I love Sometimes Its a Bitch and Desert Angel


LOL am I right? These opinions are unpopular here LOL :)

I Will Run To You is far superior to SDMHA.

I've never really liked any of Stevie's music videos.

Watch Chain is one of the best songs on 24KG.

Gate and Garden is a good song.

Moonlight is not a bad song but I really wish she would have recorded it just like the demo or have left it in the vault.

I hated Stevie's hair from RAL until SA :D

She Loves Him Still and Hard Advice are about Joe Walsh (is that an unpopular opinion?)

The Practical Magic version of Crystal is my favorite.

That's all I have for now, I'll probably think of more later...

You are right. The Practical Magic version of Crystal is amazing. One of the few remakes that is better IMHO of course ;)

I love TOSOTM and RAL (RAL's my second favorite album, and I love every track)
I love Stevie's versions of I Still Miss Someone and Just Like a Woman
I love Too Far From Texas, That Made Me Stronger, Kick It, and Gate and Garden.
I like IYD, but it's my second least favorite album of hers (after Street Angel).
I love the new tracks on Timespace.

I agree with this. In fact, the original SS is one of my fav Stevie/FM recordings ever.


I so do love the 24 KG version of Twisted, but the Twister soundtrack version is still my fav.

^^^ I agree wholeheartedly with EVERY one of these statements!!!

I'll add that I think TISL is far superior to IYD and that 24KG is superior to both (How's THAT for a very unpopular opinion? :laugh:)

All of her videos are horrible. "Talk to me" is the only one that is watchable. You would think that during that time, the mid 80's, when it was all about "the video," Stevie would have put some thought into making a KILLER video for some of her singles. The "Stand Back" video???? That could have been made to be a classic. "Gypsy " is sooooooooooooo good, I'm surprised she didn't use the same production people to do something for her solo stuff.

These are 2 of Stevie's BEST albums :nod:

I don't like 70s/early 80s Stevie's voice

I don't know if these are truly unpopular, but:

1) I find the 1983 Landover video performance much better than the Us festival one

2) I think the album version of Sara is much better than any live rendition

3) I don't like The other side of the mirror (yet)

I'm not keen on OSOTM and really dislike 24KG, but I love Street Angel.

Pretty much all of Stevie's cover songs suck, except "Free Fallin'"

Red Rocks is TERRIBLE.

I find most of Stevie's album covers boring as hell and in some cases, WTF? TISL being the exception.

The Chris Lord-Alge single remix of Blue Denim is better than both the album version and Enchanted version.

I honestly cannot remember the last time I listened to the studio version of "Edge of Seventeen", but I have 30-odd live versions that are in heavy rotation.

I absolutely love "Gate & Garden", "No Questions Asked" and "Paper Doll" which always seem to get a lot of hate.

"When I See You Again" is the worst Mac Stevie song.

I don't think either of these are really "unpopular opinions". I think MOST people here would agree with you. :nod::laugh:

I love "Too Far From Texas", and (I don't know if this is as unpopular, but maybe) the Sheryl Crow songs on Trouble in Shangri-La are 4 of my 7 favorite tracks off of it, and there's only one song on that album that Crow produced that I don't like ("That Made Me Stronger", which I don't like because of the lyrics). I think Sheryl's smokey So-Cal cowgirl thing worked really well for Stevie.

I like Trouble much more than In Your Dreams, but I don't know if that's incredibly unpopular.

I never liked any "Crystal".

Oh, and I think "Affairs of the Heart" is okay and "Paper Doll" and "No Questions Asked" are quite enjoyable.

I like it, too and when I first got the album, I liked it most. But that changed over the next 2 years. I still like TFFT, but it's like #7 for me on TISL, not #1.

Michele

You can count me too am0ng those that love Too far from Texas!
And also, Rumours Silver Springs is the best for me too.

1) I think the Wild Heart album is awful.
2) I really dig the back to basics rock sound of the Street Angel album.
3) I also agree that the Practical Magic Crystal is the best Crystal.
4) I don't want Dave Stewart anywhere near a FM album, even if it's just to produce Stevie's songs.
5) I'm ready for Stevie to retire her solo career, and dedicate her remaining years to FM.
6) The vocal coach Stevie has used the past 2 decades totally destroyed the quality of Stevie's voice. She belts/shouts everything now, and there is no nuance left to her voice, and her gorgeous tone has been ruined.
7) I would prefer Stevie never tour again- I'd much rather her put time into recording.
8) I respect Lindsey as an artist more than I do Stevie.
9) Everyone around here is always harping about Stevie wearing color- but I prefer Stevie in black.
10) The whole Stevie/Lindsey romance thing is played out, and I have zero interest in it. In fact, the focus on it rather angers me.

you're breaking my "Wild Heart" louie2K!!
1. I love me some WH, to me it's the seminal Stevie solo record
6. her vocals on the recording of IYD n 24K seem to recapture a bit of the nuance.. especially the breathiness and falsetto - flirting... though the touring voice is indeed too harsh for my taste.. I think the last great touring vocals were SA/Dance/ and Enchanted
9. she is striking in black, but I absolutely worship her in Ivory ala the Sorcerer video! I also think she is stunning in the wine-y/red colors and I would kill to see her rocking a rich chocolate brown palette

I think it's tied in the middle of the pack for me (and I only ever listen to seven songs off that album anyway, but I so love those seven songs). It's just a simple cowboy song, but I always liked Stevie's country side.

Re. The Wild Heart, the synths are just too much for me but I like the songs underneath for the most part.

Amen to both of these!

Also agree the FM version (B-side of GYOW) is the best, best version of Silver Springs.

I think Stevie squandered her talent (most especially her voice) for bullsht partying and it pisses me off.

Her voice hasn't been great for years. Her voice now can't hold a candle to her mid 70s to about 1982/3 voice.

I think she can be a TOTAL b*tch when she puts her mind to it, and I think she puts her mind to it way more than people here think.

I think she and Lindsey personally can't be in room together for very long before a fight of some sort breaks out.

I wouldn't be surprised if she hooked up with John. :eek:

Since I'm a mellow light rock person.I know I beached about Stevie's You Can't Fix This 100 times on here .I'll give it another chance if there is a remix to mellow the noise down for I can hear Stevie instead of the racket of noise.I love to find the stems for the song.

Ooh Some of the comments hurt here almost like my two bee stings I received this week.Everybody has a right to give a opinion on things.

More likely I enjoy the rest of her work and FM's work.

aren't Talk To Me, I Can't Wait, Sometimes It's A Bitch basically the same video?

hahaha. Yes, you are correct. Pefect examples, zero brainstorming. Such a shame as her record sales began to drop, a good video certainly would have/could have boosted sales. Visuals stay in your mind. But I'm not Stevie's marketing person, but if I had been..................

PREACH:nod:


I would rather her quit FM and focus her remaining years on getting out Vaults 2 and 3 and touring for those

Great Thread!

My #1 is that Stevie is billed as a living legend. One common thread throughout her career is that she has been consistently inconsistent. She's only written and released a handful of truly classic songs and possessed a truly killer voice for 4 short years. Disclaimer: Love her to bits despite all of the flaws (deeply rooted to boot)

#2 That her concerts are wonderful. As with #1, she has truly shone at a handful of concerts others she has been non-present or having lots of voice issues.

#3 That Edge of Seventeen is great live: I haven't yet heard a live version that comes close to the studio. I remember hearing WWD concert video and thinking wtf has she lowered the just like the white winged dove, as with dreams live, the lowering zaps the song of its power.

#4 Street Angel has some of her strongest vocals: This period showed promise for her voice, powerful, lush and with awesome tone. The way she showed up for Rick Vito's Desiree was just stellar and I remember thinking, she's back!

#5 That bringing out Beautiful Child and Storms was a bold move. To me, both of these amazing songs fell flat on latter year Mac tours and she really ought to have bowed out of both of these tours because she was not on in her game.

Agree totally:
I wouldn't be surprised if she hooked up with John.

These aren't "Unpopular Stevie opinions", these are exactly the very same things all fans keep complaining about since the dawn of time.

*Street Angel is a great album
*It's time to say goodbye to the Fleetwood Mac tour machine and spend time recording and releasing music. Probably not that unpopular of an opinion.
*I Will Run To You is better than SDMHA
*Stevie is generally awful when performing live in concert (there are stellar moments - but I said "generally")

Well, that's a new one. I don't mind the black now, but if she'd only worn black in the early days I think that would have been AWFUL and I would have missed all the colors we have in the past photos. But for today's Stevie, I don't care. Even if she only wears black, she could change up the cut, though.

Michele

I agree with Louie2K. I like her in black.She the woman in black like Johnny Cash was the man in black.

The problem with SDMHA live is I rather hear Tom's parts from Tom only.

Great thread.....I love Stevie and all her faults, but here are a few of my unpopular opinions:

1. Stevie is good songwriter, but she has "borrowed" many of her best lines from the poetry and prose of other people—without giving proper credit.

2. Stevie isn't that great live anymore. Everything is choreographed. No spontaneity. Same setlist year after year. Boring.

3. Stevie isn't the Queen of Rock. That title belongs to Joan Jett. She may not share Stevie's popularity, but she's a better performer and she truly lives and breathes rock 'n' roll. Just watch her recent induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

4. Stevie hasn't written a truly great song since "Wild Heart."

5. Stevie is prone to exaggeration. What would be considered normal, minor pain and discomfort for us regular folks is seen as traumatic and earth-shattering in Stevie's world.

6. Dave Stewart coddles Stevie too much and has fostered and encouraged her lazy songwriting in recent years.

Yikes! I feel horrible even writing these things....But there it is.....

I think she did. Post Mick/Sara affair. I sense her and John very touchy in say the Tusk photo shoot/ Tusk recording sessions.

1. Her music videos for IYD seemed incredibly lazy, especially the one for Moonlight.
2. I don't understand WHY she is friends with some of the newer singers that she's friends with. (Perry, Gaga, etc)
3. I don't think her mentoring advice on the Voice was all that good.:distress:

I love "Sister Honey", "Desert Angel" and "Whole Lotta Trouble."

I have no real interest in seeing Stevie or the Mac again live.

I never listen to "In Your Dreams" and "24 KG"

I love Louise Goffin's version of "If You Ever Did Believe." The Jimmy Iovine produced track is leaps and bounds better than Stevie's 98 recording.

Bella Donna is overrated. Good album but it ranks #4 for me with WH, RAL and OSOTM taking the top 3 spots.

Lindsay Lohan. Yes, she needs to get her act together but there was a long time Stevie didn't have her act together either so it bothered me to hear Stevie talk about her the way she did.

I love IYD, but I feel it might have been a fluke after 24KG. That album is sloppy, poorly recorded, lazy and the production is terrible. Even the good songs are ruined by distortion on the recordings. "Starshine" could've been one of her best album openers, but then her vocals kick in and make the whole track sound like some dodgy radio/youtube rip - muffled, flat, distorted, badly mixed. Which is real shame, because she has some great vocal moments on 24KG.
For those reasons, I really REALLY hope and pray that Stevie doesn't work with Dave again.

I also think that "That Made Me Stronger" and "Silver Girl" are better than 90% of 24KG.

RAL is my favourite Stevie album
I like Docklands (i try to ignore the laundromat lyric)
I don't like In Your Dreams (the album)
I like all of SYW and I love Silver Girl
I love OSOTM
As confusing as it is I love the Scarlet version of Stand Back
I don't like her duets with Don Henley and Tom Petty

my opinions
 

1. I think SN solo career is extremely over rated, FM career is one thing, but her solo career is/was a success but not to the extreme that many seem
2. I think she knows a lot more about Lindsey's dark side than any of us will ever know , thank goodness
3. Never understood why she was unhappy with Tango when she wasnt even there, she got paid from it and yet she bitches, weird
4. I actually liked the Enchanted box set, never thought I would, but I did
5. She is insane for not wanting to record with FM one last time, tour ok, I get that, but to record, she loves money and she could make some good cash on it, even if she was to just give them crap songs, but if she wants to tour the small venues and make nothing then thats fine, and yes I am aware LB tours small venues but his ego isnt anywhere near the size of Stevies so I doubt he cares, and I know SN does, so thats mind boggling

I honestly believe that the lack of new material from La Nicks is just because she doesn't write much anymore and what she does isn't all that good. And she knows it.

It took Dave Stewart to really craft her songs on IYD - almost everything on that record was a co-write and the songs that weren't were all old demo's. Everything she's done post-SYW has either required assistance or been something she's pulled out of the vault.

My gripe is with her and FM is to try to play different music then what they play regularly .They dont want to change .

I know right? But then she feels sorry for Britney? Lindsay is the one who had all those problems with her parents. She has more reasons to be messed up than Britney.