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ViscountViktor 04-19-2015 03:10 PM

Straight Back
 
I've never really liked Mirage, but I listened to it again recently, and loved Straight Back.

Does anyone else think it's one of Stevie's best Mac vocals? Powerful, tuneful, and the added bonus of Christine!

If only they played it on tour....

DauphineMarie 04-19-2015 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by ViscountViktor (Post 1164895)
I've never really liked Mirage, but I listened to it again recently, and loved Straight Back.

Does anyone else think it's one of Stevie's best Mac vocals? Powerful, tuneful, and the added bonus of Christine!

If only they played it on tour....

I think it is one of the most interesting Mac songs from Stevie. I think it's hard to put it in a category, considering the diversity of her other songs from Mirage. There also hasn't been a song like it since.. It's so atmospheric, like a dream almost.

SisterNightroad 04-19-2015 04:07 PM

It's my favourite song from Mirage, the only one from the album that's in my favourites' playlist.
There are a lot of interesting outtakes of the song on Ivory Keys, the studio demo, the vinyl mix, two alternate extended album outtake versions and even two live rehearsals: http://stevienicksivorykeys.blogspot...inning_42.html

Macfan4life 04-19-2015 07:15 PM

Straight Back is classic Mac with lyrics, vocals, harmonies, backing vocals and the way that Lindsey and Christine play off each other.

The entire Mirage album is full of great vocals, lyrics and stuff like this. I don't get how people love Straight Back but hate Mirage. IMHO Straight Back is a highlight but definitely sounds like the entire album.

KenB 04-19-2015 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1164911)
The entire Mirage album is full of great vocals, lyrics and stuff like this. I don't get how people love Straight Back but hate Mirage.

There are also a few of us who love Mirage but hate (or are apathetic toward) Straight Back.

wheart 04-20-2015 08:55 AM

LOVE Straight Back and is probably in my top of 5 of Stevie penned FM songs. When I first bought Mirage a gazillion years ago I played Straight Back non stop. My roommate at the time thought they had released a new song because she kept hearing it come out of my bedroom. I love everything about this song: vocal, lyrics, production...major air of mystery, drama, anger, romance and love!

Montclare 04-20-2015 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by KenB (Post 1164914)
There are also a few of us who love Mirage but hate (or are apathetic toward) Straight Back.

I like (not love) Mirage and feel Straight Back is one of the lesser songs on the album. To me, it's the song on Mirage that feels the most 80s, and I'm not an 80s fan.

Feather Blade 04-20-2015 09:35 AM

I love it too. (I also really love Mirage, with just a couple of exceptions)

soul_drifter333 04-20-2015 09:52 AM

There's still another mix too, which is my favorite. The cassette version has more vocals up-front in the mix. I had the cassette first and thought it was weird how different the vinyl version was when I finally got the album. I don't have access to it right now or I would share it. Someone else on here probably has it though. Love how the synthesizers are recorded and mixed. They almost have the Tusk approach in how they are produced.

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1164898)
It's my favourite song from Mirage, the only one from the album that's in my favourites' playlist.
There are a lot of interesting outtakes of the song on Ivory Keys, the studio demo, the vinyl mix, two alternate extended album outtake versions and even two live rehearsals: http://stevienicksivorykeys.blogspot...inning_42.html


HomerMcvie 04-20-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by soul_drifter333 (Post 1164938)
There's still another mix too, which is my favorite. The cassette version has more vocals up-front in the mix. I had the cassette first and thought it was weird how different the vinyl version was when I finally got the album. I don't have access to it right now or I would share it. Someone else on here probably has it though. Love how the synthesizers are recorded and mixed. They almost have the Tusk approach in how they are produced.

Yep. I had the cassette version first, and all the guitar licks at the end, aren't on it(like they are on the CD).

sanders8323 04-20-2015 03:39 PM

Love the Mirage album, but Straight Back is my least favorite song on it. In response to the original poster's question, yes, I think the song showcases a brilliant Nicks vocal, but, unfortunately, that vocal is paired with one of the most tuneless songs in the Buckingham/Nicks lineup.

Nick 04-20-2015 07:52 PM

Have always loved this track. I like it better than SOTM. Would love if they put it in the live shows.

jbrownsjr 04-21-2015 08:46 AM

Fantastic Stevie song. One of the best songs she's ever written.

madeline 04-28-2015 04:43 AM

Straight Back has always been one of my favorite Stevie songs. I also happen to like the Mirage album as a whole as well. I like everyone's songs on that album. But last night I was listening to a bunch of different Straight Backs, and if you listen to her sing it on the Mirage rehersals, it's not great. She seemed to be struggling to sing parts of it. I think they made the right decision not to do it live, I don't think Stevie could have pulled it off night after night. And if they tried to do that song today, they would have to pull a Sisters of the moon and strip the fire from it in order for Stevie to be able to sing it. Sometimes it is better to leave well enough alone.

pauls90 04-28-2015 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by madeline (Post 1165330)
Straight Back has always been one of my favorite Stevie songs. I also happen to like the Mirage album as a whole as well. I like everyone's songs on that album. But last night I was listening to a bunch of different Straight Backs, and if you listen to her sing it on the Mirage rehersals, it's not great. She seemed to be struggling to sing parts of it. I think they made the right decision not to do it live, I don't think Stevie could have pulled it off night after night. And if they tried to do that song today, they would have to pull a Sisters of the moon and strip the fire from it in order for Stevie to be able to sing it. Sometimes it is better to leave well enough alone.

Really?? I actually love the live rehearsals.

And obviously Stevie's voice is not in the shape it was then. It could still be amazing if they gave it an interesting rework and not just lowering the pitch/energy level.

I've always thought it strange that Mirage is kind of the "obscure" record of the classic lineup - in terms of people remembering an album and not just a couple songs. I have a few friends who always thought Gypsy and Hold Me were on Tango.

Fannymac 04-28-2015 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by soul_drifter333 (Post 1164938)
There's still another mix too, which is my favorite. The cassette version has more vocals up-front in the mix. I had the cassette first and thought it was weird how different the vinyl version was when I finally got the album. I don't have access to it right now or I would share it. Someone else on here probably has it though. Love how the synthesizers are recorded and mixed. They almost have the Tusk approach in how they are produced.

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1164944)
Yep. I had the cassette version first, and all the guitar licks at the end, aren't on it(like they are on the CD).

Actually, it's almost as if the first pressing of the vinyl had the lesser arrangement, with future pressings getting the fuller treatment. I have both versions on vinyl.

louielouie2000 04-28-2015 12:23 PM

I've always loved Straight Back- definitely one of my top 5 favorite Stevie-penned Mac tunes. I don't have a whole lot to say about it otherwise- it's just a great song. I put it in the same category as Sisters, Gold Dust Woman, Rhiannon, Destiny Rules, and Illume. To me, Stevie's mystical rock Mac songs are Stevie at her absolute best.

However, I don't hold any hope it'll ever be dusted off for a tour- but who knows? Sara & Sisters Of The Moon returned against all odds; Beautiful Child & Storms were some of the most unlikely tracks to ever grace a 21st century Mac stage, too. Stranger things have happened. Like Christine's return! :laugh:

secondhandchain 05-02-2015 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by sanders8323 (Post 1164955)
Love the Mirage album, but Straight Back is my least favorite song on it. In response to the original poster's question, yes, I think the song showcases a brilliant Nicks vocal, but, unfortunately, that vocal is paired with one of the most tuneless songs in the Buckingham/Nicks lineup.

It's hardly tuneless. One of my favorites by her. I love the way it builds and all those background harmonies get me every time. Plus Stevie really belts it out here. It's one of the top 3 on the album in my my opinion.

PenguinHead 05-03-2015 03:08 AM

Straight Back is one of those album tracks that should have made it to the stage. When touring for a new album it would be nice if each of them featured at least two of their new songs.

Christine and Lindsey typically perform at least two or more new songs. But on the Mirage tour, as well as the Tango tour, Stevie only featured only new song. Only Gypsy was performed, but That's Alright or Straight Back would have fit in quite nicely. The song seems no more vocally demanding than any other songs she sings.

Even though they've thrown in some curve ball songs here and there in their sets, they are fairly conservative in their selections, pandering to casual fans whose stunted fandom may only consist of Rumours and Greatest Hits.

They subscribe to a "if it works, drive it into the ground" and "people don't want to hear new songs" mentality, severely limiting their flexibility. But in this latter stage in the band's lifespan, to expect any radical shift in their manner is senseless. Mining their overlooked back catalog is not the objective now.

I just hope we get one more album of new music from all five fireflies.
But strangely, I don't want to see them promote it on the road in the massive scale of their current tour. I can only imagine the physical/mental toll it takes to fulfill such a demanding schedule, even though they are the consummate road warriors.

In my dream they do a Dance-like move and film a special show featuring the majority of their new album, along with rarely or never performed songs from their catalog, release it as a CD/DVD.

PenguinHead 05-03-2015 03:26 AM

Straight Back is one of those album tracks that should have made it to the stage. When touring for a new album it would be nice if each of them featured at least two of their new songs. Christine and Lindsey typically perform two or more new songs. But on the Mirage tour, as well as the Tango tour, Stevie only featured new song. Gypsy was performed, but That's Alright or Straight Back would have fit in quite nicely. Straight Back seems no more vocally demanding than any other songs she sings.

Even though they've thrown in some curve ball songs here and there, they are fairly conservative and close to the rails in set lists, pandering more to casual fans whose stunted fandom may only go as deep as Rumours and Greatest Hits. They subscribe to a "if it works, drive it into the ground" and "people don't want to hear new songs" mentality, which severely limits their flexibility. But in this latter stage in the band's lifespan, to expect any radical shift in their manner is senseless.

I just hope we get one more album of new music from all five fireflies. But strangely, I don't want to see them promote it on the road in the massive scale of their current tour. I can only imagine the physical/mental toll it takes to fulfill such a demanding schedule, even though they are the consummate road warriors. In my dream they do a Dance-like move and film a special show featuring the majority of their new album, along with rarely or never performed songs from their catalog, release it as a CD/DVD.

Macfan4life 05-03-2015 06:57 AM

I love Straight Back. It is a favorite because it scores perfectly in every category.

Lyrics 10
Singing 10
Harmonies 10
Music 10
Arrangement 10
Intensity 10
Mac sound 10

So many classic moments in this song. Chris backing Stevie vocally on a record is not that common. But the line "wolf on the run" gives me goose bumps everytime.

The way Lindsey and Chris play off each other before the bridge is so classic Mac.

Stevie's singing is calm but she turns it out in the end practically screaming STRAIGHT BACK

And its one of Stevie's better writing songs.

IMHO how can anyone not like this song :eek:

MoonSister75 05-03-2015 07:38 AM

^^^ Agree with your 10/10s . I also love this song. It has a beautiful vocal from Stevie - a perfect Mac pop tune :)

Artemis 05-03-2015 12:04 PM

I love Straight Back, it wouldn't have been out of place on Bella Donna. Great vocal, great lyrics and great musically as well. Stevie knocks it out of the park on Mirage. Imagine how much better than album would be if a weaker song was substituted with Smile At You.....

jbrownsjr 05-03-2015 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Artemis (Post 1165601)
I love Straight Back, it wouldn't have been out of place on Bella Donna. Great vocal, great lyrics and great musically as well. Stevie knocks it out of the park on Mirage. Imagine how much better than album would be if a weaker song was substituted with Smile At You.....

Agreed. She was in rare form at this time. She was writing some amazing music. Drop Oh Diane, and add Smile At You... ;)

FuzzyPlum 05-03-2015 01:20 PM

I've never been a huge fan of Straight Back, but its pretty good.

I've always felt there was a musical link between Rhiannon > Gold Dust Woman > Sisters of the Moon > Straight Back
there's something about the vibe of those songs that kind of links them together.

starshine 05-03-2015 04:06 PM

I've always loved Straight Back. Love how Stevie sings it. Its just one of those awesome songs. I wish she still wrote stuff like this & sang like this too. Its a great song. :D

bombaysaffires 05-03-2015 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1165580)
It's hardly tuneless. One of my favorites by her. I love the way it builds and all those background harmonies get me every time. Plus Stevie really belts it out here. It's one of the top 3 on the album in my my opinion.

I give a lot of credit to Lindsey because his finger prints are all over the arrangement of this song, and Ken and Richard.

michelej1 05-04-2015 01:08 AM

I like the "hours and hours of waiting for you" part.

Michele

lilyfee 05-04-2015 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by FuzzyPlum (Post 1165606)

I've always felt there was a musical link between Rhiannon > Gold Dust Woman > Sisters of the Moon > Straight Back
there's something about the vibe of those songs that kind of links them together.

With a different arrangement, Straight Back would sound a lot like SOTM... More than it already does! Could have been very rock. I like the vocal and the lyrics but I'm not crazy about the arrangement/music.

Aussie W/Heart 05-04-2015 07:50 AM

I love Straight Back, such an awesome song and a wasted opportunity for this song to shine in their set list.


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