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PenguinHead 02-20-2015 08:56 AM

Is Anyone Missing Stand Back? I'm Not.
 
Having attended the Portland show, and revisiting that experience by watching numerous audience recorded shows, the absence of Stand Back is a welcome relief. I sure hope Stevie has dropped all grudges for the band's wise decision to veto the song from the setlist.

twinmatrix 02-20-2015 09:01 AM

As a Stevie Nicks fan and not a Fleetwood Mac fan, yes, absolutely. I'm devastated I won't be hearing that song live in June.

jbrownsjr 02-20-2015 09:23 AM

Not in the least. However, I don't think she sings SOTM very well. I would love to hear That's Alright, instead.

DauphineMarie 02-20-2015 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1161231)
Not in the least. However, I don't think she sings SOTM very well. I would love to hear That's Alright, instead.

I was just thinking this. To me, there is nothing in comparison to the Tusk/Mirage SOTM. I think Storms would make a great replacement as well.

jbrownsjr 02-20-2015 09:54 AM

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Originally Posted by DauphineMarie (Post 1161234)
I was just thinking this. To me, there is nothing in comparison to the Tusk/Mirage SOTM. I think Storms would make a great replacement as well.

Or Beautiful Child with just she and Christine...

Montclare 02-20-2015 10:09 AM

Not in the slightest. I would like to hear That's Alright, or Fireflies, or IDWTK.

johndeb420 02-20-2015 10:09 AM

I would love to one day hear live Sugar Daddy from Chris and Blue Letter , also would give anything for Oh Well

bethelblues 02-20-2015 10:23 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1161235)
Or Beautiful Child with just she and Christine...

Definitely! Beautiful Child is probably the Stevie's best performed song from Tusk in the modern era. They were nailing it for the 2004 tour.

I Don't Want to Know would be great too, because it's upbeat and fun and features Stevie and Lindsey. I think Angel would be slightly slower and not as punk-y as from the 1980 tour.

I'd take anything other than Stand Back.

Macfanforever 02-20-2015 10:40 AM

I do miss it.Keep what they have in the setlist .They could of make the show 3 hours and come out at 8PM sharp or tighten up the slack on other tunes and stage chat they could of fit SB in and add Lindsey's solo and Chris's solo tune in too to make it fair.

LittleDemon 02-20-2015 11:07 AM

I'd love to hear it back in the set list. Everyone was on their feet and it charged up the crowd. I miss Sara too.

sue 02-20-2015 11:19 AM

No I don't miss it at all....
She does sound fabulous on SOTM.
I wish one day they would sing "Angel" my favourite Stevie song within FM.

nicepace 02-20-2015 11:23 AM

I totally did not miss "Stand Back" when I saw the show last month in Providence. I was very glad they omitted it.

This thread should've been a poll. (insert smiley of your choice)

Neal 02-20-2015 11:45 AM

I choose not to miss it, only because its inclusion probably would have meant "Seven Wonders" omission - and I waited 20+ years to hear that one!

wheart 02-20-2015 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bethelblues (Post 1161240)
Definitely! Beautiful Child is probably the Stevie's best performed song from Tusk in the modern era. They were nailing it for the 2004 tour.

I Don't Want to Know would be great too, because it's upbeat and fun and features Stevie and Lindsey. I think Angel would be slightly slower and not as punk-y as from the 1980 tour.

I'd take anything other than Stand Back.

i wish they would bring back Beautiful Child...to hear it with Christine would be amazing.

Don't miss SB. It's fun on stage but it's played to death.

I wouldn't mind seeing Seven Wonders go away...it's a bit of an on stage snooze fest.

jbrownsjr 02-20-2015 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by wheart (Post 1161251)
i wish they would bring back Beautiful Child...to hear it with Christine would be amazing.

Don't miss SB. It's fun on stage but it's played to death.

I wouldn't mind seeing Seven Wonders go away...it's a bit of an on stage snooze fest.

hmmm I liked 7 wonders but didn't care for SOTM.. based on her singing.. I thought GDW was amazing. I just want to hear That's Alright.. is that too much to ask...

BigBigLove 02-20-2015 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1161235)
Or Beautiful Child with just she and Christine...

What a fantastic idea, seriously... that'd be a really cool arrangement. Or maybe give LB an acoustic guitar and let it be just the three of them harmonizing together with the sparse piano/guitar arrangement.

AliceLover 02-20-2015 04:09 PM

I love Stand Back! But I am not necessarily missing it. However, I definitely think there needs to be something between ISA and GYOW. Something fast and upbeat, like Running Through the Garden or Isn't it Midnight.

MikeVielhaber 02-20-2015 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wheart (Post 1161251)
i wish they would bring back Beautiful Child...to hear it with Christine would be amazing.

Don't miss SB. It's fun on stage but it's played to death.

I wouldn't mind seeing Seven Wonders go away...it's a bit of an on stage snooze fest.

What does Christine add to Beautiful Child? Off the top of my head I can't think of it. It's very sparse instrumentation. The background vocals are mostly Lindsey. I hear one or two places where Christine comes in. But I can't think of her presence adding a whole lot. But maybe I'm just not remembering correctly right now. It's one of the SYW tour songs that I think was really great and not lacking.

dreamer78 02-20-2015 05:34 PM

Yes I miss it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
also I think Sara should be in it -it would have great to hear Christine play that opening / for both songs actually

bethelblues 02-20-2015 06:00 PM

I'm a huge fan of Beautiful Child, as I said. Lindsey's presence is absolutely vital. Listen to the 2004 Boston love performance; you need his harmonizing. To tell you the truth, if they played this song (or Sara for that matter) I bet Christine wouldn't even be playing the piano part. She'd add the one line "I fell into love." I absolutely believe this is Stevie's best live song from Tusk.

I 100% agree they need a song between So Afraid and Go Your Own Way, but nothing's gonna change now lol.

Nick 02-20-2015 06:17 PM

At the same time, I'm not missing "Go Insane". This tour should be all about FM songs, not the solo material.

michelej1 02-20-2015 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1161290)
What does Christine add to Beautiful Child? Off the top of my head I can't think of it. It's very sparse instrumentation. The background vocals are mostly Lindsey. I hear one or two places where Christine comes in. But I can't think of her presence adding a whole lot. But maybe I'm just not remembering correctly right now. It's one of the SYW tour songs that I think was really great and not lacking.

The background vocals were very instrumental to the song when it was performed live. It was one of the few times that I thought the 3 background singers were useful.

You know how you do "row row row your boat" with everyone taking a different line sometimes? They layered the background words to Beautiful Child like that. Stevie sang lead. Lindsey sang one part and then the backup singers sang another partial verse and I found it extremely effective. I don't know how they would change the vocal arrangement with Christine on board, but I know I was very pleased with it without her and that's a rare song I can say that about.

Michele

michelej1 02-20-2015 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick (Post 1161293)
At the same time, I'm not missing "Go Insane". This tour should be all about FM songs, not the solo material.

Which is probably why FM has not performed Go Insane since 2004.

Michele

MikeInNV 02-20-2015 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1161295)
Which is probably why FM has not performed Go Insane since 2004.

Michele

They did the full-band version on the 2009 tour. It was the LB highlight for me.

Macfan4life 02-20-2015 08:20 PM

I don't miss stand back because there is not enough room for the songs I want to hear this tour. Yes Stand Back got the crowd on its feet but this tour the crowd is already on its feet.
I would LOVE to hear Got A Hold on Me though :)

I love the set list but my only regret is Chris does not do anything from Tusk and is the only one not doing a deep track. But maybe she wanted it that way and just do the hits. Love in Store is only like 3:20. I think it would make a great encore with all 3 singing those harmonies.
But one can dream :)

WayOfTheDragon 02-20-2015 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1161307)
I don't miss stand back because there is not enough room for the songs I want to hear this tour. Yes Stand Back got the crowd on its feet but this tour the crowd is already on its feet.
I would LOVE to hear Got A Hold on Me though :)

I love the set list but my only regret is Chris does not do anything from Tusk and is the only one not doing a deep track. But maybe she wanted it that way and just do the hits. Love in Store is only like 3:20. I think it would make a great encore with all 3 singing those harmonies.
But one can dream :)

I agree with you on this! Stand Back indeed had the crowd on its feet when I saw them in 2013, but it made more sense to include it during the 2003-2013 tours when Christine was not there. This time, there are so many Christine songs I would love to hear included in the set, including Hold Me, Isn't It Midnight, Love In Store, and any of her Tusk songs. If there is another tour after this one, maybe we'll get one of these. :)

vivfox 02-20-2015 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1161307)
I love the set list but my only regret is Chris does not do anything from Tusk and is the only one not doing a deep track. But maybe she wanted it that way and just do the hits.

I sometimes wonder if Christine even likes her own songs from Tusk. Even on the Tusk tour she only performed Over and Over or Think About Me in a few select cities. Brown Eyes wasn't performed until the Mirage tour.

SorcererJP 02-21-2015 03:48 AM

At the 2013 shows in Europe which I attended many in the crowd hardly knew or recognized Stand Back (is it a new song? I heard around me!) ... so I guess it won't be missed.

I love the song, but te arrangements Mac made to the song kind of made it into an obligation to play it. No real fire in the song if you catch my drift.

Very looking forward to Seven Wonders this june.

PenguinHead 02-21-2015 03:54 AM

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Originally Posted by johndeb420 (Post 1161237)
I would love to one day hear live Sugar Daddy from Chris and Blue Letter , also would give anything for Oh Well

Yes, yes, and yes. Sugar Daddy is so underrated. I think it's one her best songs.

PenguinHead 02-21-2015 04:02 AM

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Originally Posted by MikeInNV (Post 1161302)
They did the full-band version on the 2009 tour. It was the LB highlight for me.

I thought Lindsey did only a solo acoustic version, sort of like Big Love. They performed a full band version? I must of missed that, or just forgot about it.

twinmatrix 02-21-2015 07:10 AM

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Originally Posted by DauphineMarie (Post 1161234)
I was just thinking this. To me, there is nothing in comparison to the Tusk/Mirage SOTM. I think Storms would make a great replacement as well.

+1 for Storms, my favorite FM song ever. <3

Macfan4life 02-21-2015 07:22 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1161321)
I sometimes wonder if Christine even likes her own songs from Tusk. Even on the Tusk tour she only performed Over and Over or Think About Me in a few select cities. Brown Eyes wasn't performed until the Mirage tour.

Brown Eyes was also done during the 1987/1988 tour. I heard Christine say during an interview during that time that her favorite songs to do live were Brown Eyes and Sara. So I think she likes Tusk. I just think since she has been away for so long that se better stick to the hits.

jmn3 02-21-2015 07:30 AM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 1161333)
I thought Lindsey did only a solo acoustic version, sort of like Big Love. They performed a full band version? I must of missed that, or just forgot about it.

On The Dance Tour in 1997 that's how Lindsey played it....I think it came right before or after Big Love in the setlist. For the entire 2009 tour, they played it with the full band, although I want to say Stevie was off-stage..? (I can't remember for sure about Stevie)

jmn3 02-21-2015 07:32 AM

I never had issue with Stand Back's inclusion in the Fleetwood Mac set, but I can say with certainty, I did not miss it during the show I saw in October. I always thought Everybody Finds Out could have been a good replacement for Stand Back if Stevie was looking for something fast/fun. But, at this point, like most of Say You Will, I'm afraid EFO has faded into obscurity for good.

nicole21290 02-21-2015 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1161339)
On The Dance Tour in 1997 that's how Lindsey played it....I think it came right before or after Big Love in the setlist. For the entire 2009 tour, they played it with the full band, although I want to say Stevie was off-stage..? (I can't remember for sure about Stevie)

Correct.


bombaysaffires 02-21-2015 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1161341)
Correct.


fabulous!! I did not know they did this…. why oh why can't they put stuff like this on dvds/compilations etc instead of the same old sh*t..

thanks for posting nicole!

michelej1 02-21-2015 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1161321)
I sometimes wonder if Christine even likes her own songs from Tusk.

Yes, I don't get the impression she particularly likes them either. Think About Me, Honey Hi and Never Forget are great songs.

Michele

michelej1 02-21-2015 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmn3 (Post 1161340)
I never had issue with Stand Back's inclusion in the Fleetwood Mac set, but I can say with certainty, I did not miss it during the show I saw in October. I always thought Everybody Finds Out could have been a good replacement for Stand Back if Stevie was looking for something fast/fun. But, at this point, like most of Say You Will, I'm afraid EFO has faded into obscurity for good.

I agree about EFO. Obscure songs alienate an audience, but a DANCE song has a better chance than most of lighting a fire under their feet, even if they don't recognize it.

I can imagine walking out of the arena and hearing people ask each other what that song was. Is it an FM song? What album is it on? That was really great!

Anytime we can baby, every time we can ... get away.

Michele

teedeerocks 02-21-2015 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1161341)
Correct.


I have always loved this song but this is fabulous! Thanks Nicole!

bombaysaffires 02-21-2015 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1161363)
Yes, I don't get the impression she particularly likes them either. Think About Me, Honey Hi and Never Forget are great songs.

Michele

I just think they aren't the most upbeat (musically) of her material and harder to do live. Not harder to play, but they are softer and quieter than say Say You Love Me or Think About Me or Don't Stop etc etc. They're actually a bit mournful, presumably based on her relationship with Dennis…and they are awesome studio confections….but I think like Oh Daddy harder to pull off in an arena full of shouting, drinking casual fans. In a more intimate setting, a smaller theater venue, probably much better.


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