There will never be a new Fleetwood Mac album
 

I think it's about time we faced up to the reality that the chances of a new Fleetwood Mac album are slim to none. Many fans will remember Lindsey Buckingham talking about putting out a new Fleetwood Mac album after the 2009 tour. Obviously that never eventuated.

I don't know if any other Ledgies realise this, but Fleetwood Mac is very unlikely to make much money from the sales of a new album. I think realistically the best they can hope for is Gold sales status. Look at Say You Will, it's taken eleven years for it to reach Platinum sales status (or close to it).

From the band's point of view, they can make much more money from touring.

If they were serious about wanting to release a new album, then why not include two new songs in the current tour set list?

I don't know about anyone else but it drives me crazy hearing from the media that there are new Fleetwood Mac songs and knowing that I'm unlikely to ever hear them.

Why haven't they included Too Far Gone or How I Feel or Carnival Begin or Red Sun in the set?

I don't think the band would release an album without Stevie songs on it and as she appears to have no interest in working in the studio with the band:

The best we can hope for is a new solo Lindsey album and a new solo Christine album.

Gee thanks for scaring the S*** out of me :lol:
Let's not try scaring people with the name of our threads! Your thread title is like "Christine is dying" and then you write something like "Lets face it, they are all going to die one day :eek::lol:

Anyway, Lindsey just said in some interview that stevie will come in and lindsey has been writing recently! They're not in the setlist because they are not done yet (have you heard the early live version of GYOW? eeek!) they aren't done yet and people don't one unfinished music.

I understand and appreciate you expressing your feelings, but it doesn't seem right to post your opinion as fact. "Will there ever be a new album?" would have be more appropriate.

The best we have to hope for is the patience to wait. In the world of Fleetwood Mac, nothing happens quickly, so our expectations are just planned disappointments.The speculation ofwhat they will do/should do scenarios can (and will) go on endlessly until the tour finally ends.

I'm happy for the legions of fans who are getting to see the group back together with Christine. But when the tour is over, all that we will have left are memories (and probably a pricey commemorative DVD/CD of one of the shows). Lindsey calls this a "profound" chapter in the band--but I call it a snap judgment and shameless move motivated by money.

As artists, I would assumed their desire to create and record a new album would overrule embarking on a huge tour, less than a year from their last tour of redundancy. This would have allowed Stevie time/space to promote her album, letting her feel less constrained by group demands, and making her more amenable to working on a new Fleetwood Mac album, which could be released and toured in the spring of next year. As I've said before, a show is just a fleeting moment in time, but an album is timeless. Which one would you prefer?

I respectfully disagree. I think there will be one more Fleetwood Mac studio album with the Rumours 5. Though it may not happen until 2016, I think this project will see the light of day.

I think 24 Karat Gold is the LAST SOLO ALBUM that Stevie owed Warner/Reprise Records. I think the release of that album has fulfilled her contract with them. As far as record labels go, she may be a free agent soon. I just read the other day she said that this record was made simply to fulfill an "obligation" to her record company. Whether or not she will want to head into the studio with Mac next year is anyone's guess. This woman changes her mind like the weather. BUT, I think she'll give in late next year and decide to contribute three new songs to a MAC record.

I have to believe you. I hope, hope, hope....

Which interview was this?

There's a new Et*** in town....

stating opinions as facts = not cool.

This is so overly dramatic.

Why are you just making this just about money? And do you think they're stupid? They know the state of the industry. Most artists these days aren't making the majority of their money from albums, but they're making them anyway. Lindsey and Christine obviously had a fantastic time working together again. It seems they are excited about CREATING together again. If they need money, they'll just tour (like they're doing now, grossing almost $2 Million a show).

Except for maybe Mick, I don't think they're just driven by how much an album will sell. Maybe for their own artistic integrity they would just like to put out another project because they're artists.........

I firmly believe there will be one last album from the band. This whole process of airing dirty laundry and public insinuations is classic, classic Fleetwood Mac. These kids have been drama queens since day one. 40+ years on, they're even more stubborn due to all the years of money, fame, power, and now they're old curmudgeons on top of all that. Of course recording an album wouldn't be easy or drama free. All the same, I don't think a one of them wants to close the book on the band without one last album. If the Eagles could pull it off, so can these guys. Not just that- since the Eagles put out one final album, you know the Mac will follow suit. This is why Christine came back, after all- so the band could put a nice neat bow on their history.

I completely agree. And I'm glad someone else agrees with me on the "public insinuations". I've seen a lot people arguing that these artists would never purposefully cause controversy and drama in the media to draw up interest in their projects...but it's what they've ALWAYS done. Why is this so unbelievable to people???

They want to put out an album because they have all of the foundations of it pretty much done. They just need Stevie to contribute.

I hate it when people say about the album 'going Gold'. Have you seen the Billboard charts lately?

Veteran acts like them don't sell 500,000 copies of a new studio album anymore. Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers' new album sold about 250,000 copies and that included extra sales from concert tickets.

Pink Floyd's new album has sold approximately 220,000 copies in three weeks and they're a big selling album act. The album has plummeted as of today and is at #25 showing that the only way is down from now.

This new album if it does come out eventually, will debut at around #3 with strong first week sales of around 100,000, but after that it'll die and will sell around 200,000 copies +. It may be a different story in the UK however as album sales here for them are very strong and they are ALWAYS on the album charts. I think the album could sell around 100,000 copies here and would almost certainly go to #1.

The days of a new studio album going 'Gold' is extremely rare nowadays I'm afraid! :sorry:

With all this drama .I think this band needs a reality show.I hate reality shows but I will be glued to the tube watching it.

thanks for bumming out our scene

I personally think this is a can of rubbish. They would be stupid if they decided not to try to put out out one last album. I'm sure they'll make it happen, despite any push back from Stevie, or whatever it might be. And yes, I would watch this soap opera too, on what my father used to call the idiot box! :lol:

What the band has always done is talk to each other through the media. I don't really think they've made a point of purposefully causing controversy and drama to generate interest in their projects, from third parties.

For instance, although the Rumours soap opera garnered a lot of publicity, to say the very least, when they were promoting Tusk, they didn't pretend to be in conflict to sell Tusk. In fact, they tried to appear more unified than they actually were about Tusk, in the media.

Michele

:lol: but sadly cameras would never capture what really goes on because they won't let it happen. anyone who thinks that the Tusk or Destiny Rules docs are not very, very sanitized is naive. If you watched the Tusk doc you'd think it was all pretty hunky-dory when most of the insider accounts of what it really was like talk about the fights and the yelling and the back and forth with Stevie and Lindsey; about the incredible tension between Stevie and Mick over Sara; the coke being passed around and so on. Did you see any of that on film? A resounding NO.

Even the DR doc… very watered down. They completely and totally skimmed right over the big fights over the final running order and length of the album, where Stevie threatened not to tour more than the original 40 dates if LB got his way.... The angry words flying across the ocean like some seabirds… Totally white washed.

A *real* doc like some other bands have done would be AMAZING. (The Metallica one was riveting and I'm not really even a fan). I would be absolutely glued to every episode!

With the recent attention that certain male celebrities have gotten over their treatment of females I think any footage or accounts of certain members "outbursts" towards a certain female in the band would cause the band large amounts of unwanted negative publicity.

Other than New Zealand and the Tango argument no one has ever indicated that there have been any "outbursts" to capture on film.

People talk about Stevie and Lindsey yelling at each other, but that's about it.

Michele

Agreed, and during Tango.... "They were getting along better than ever..."

I thought the rules for pairing albums with concert tickets is that it had to be optional and not for free. Tom Petty's album was free with every concert ticket. Pretty sure that doesn't count for sales.But maybe the rules have changed again.

I remember some of the country acts were pairing up albums with the tix.

With those inflated tix prices .They can afford to throw in an album.

I think the albums Madonna gave away with the purchase of concert tickets for her last album counted towards the album's sales.

TOTALLY agree with you both! There's NO WAY they're not going to put out an album with everything that's already in the can, and there's NO WAY Stevie won't participate.....it would be career suicide!
As for not doing any new songs on THIS leg of the tour.....that was never the plan. This leg was meant as a warm up, allowing everyone to get their feet wet again, so to speak!
As far as I'm concerned, the best plans for the group would be to: A) Finish the album in early 2015, B) release it by late Spring/early Summer, then tour behind it for the rest of 2015.
After that, everyone could have 2016 off to do whatever they want.
Then, in 2017, regroup for the band's 50th anniversary. Do a tour and an album featuring every living member in the band's history.....Mick and John could be on each track, with the likes of Peter Green, Jeremy Spencer, Billy Burnette, Danny Kirwin, Rick Vito and Bekka Bramlett each handling a track, with Stevie, Christine and Lindsey taking on 1-3 each.
After 2017....it's anyone's call!

Exactly. I hate when people post their negative random thoughts. You don't know sh*t, so don't act like you do.

I also agree with this last part. I would rather have another album or 2 and less concerts/tours.

on the other hand, a "positive thought police" is just as annoying, if not more. self-righteousness is not necessarily very attractive. :lol:

people posting "negative" thoughts may be just venting their frustrations... for all we know it may be therapeutic for them.

we don't know whether this person knows something or not, so i'm not sure why we would be compelled to say they don't know sh*t.

it's a nice plan, except they are booked solid from jan through mid-july already. and Mick just said at some m&g that they will be touring Australia some time in Nov 2015.

so the only time they have to finish the album (assuming they take aug off after working through jul) will be sept-oct 2015. i still hold a glimmer of hope that will happen, but if i'm realistic i would go with low expectations that are worded so eloquently by the title of this thread. ;)

"Positive thought police"? Really? I'm hoping for/expecting a new studio album from them by late 2015. If I said the new album would sell more than Taylor Swift, then I could understand what you wrote. I'm certainly being realistic.

I don't think there's a problem about posting negative random thoughts. I mean, where would the fun be without those?

But it is good to have a thread title that doesn't alarm. Michele

I hear you, but at least post it as your opinion and not a fact. Misleading threads are the worst!

Sorry about the click-bait thread title. I'd change it but I don't know how.

yup. :thumbsup:

no not you necessarily! but i'm happy with expression. :lol:

That's why I said an album going 'Gold' is the best Fleetwood Mac can hope for... meaning it is unlikely they would even achieve that.

Oh my God! Finally! They haven't forgotten us!

you can ask mods to change it for you.

i don't have a problem with your title and i'm one of the people here who's pushing for that album the most; of course it never occurred to me even for a sec that you were stating the fact (although it may eventually turn out to be one).

if one is so worried, as soon as they click on the title they'll find out very fast what it is about. not a rocket science. :D

Very true. I'm a bit confused as to why people would think the thread title is a fact. It's not a quote from an article.

To me, as much as I would like a new album from the band, the cynic in me says it's not going to happen any time soon and it may not happen at all. If it's true that the band will be touring Australia and New Zealand in November 2015, any new album from the band would need to have its release date pushed back to 2016. I think by 2016 it will get to the stage where one or more of the band members is of the opinion, "why bother?"

Then we would probably get a new solo album from Lindsey and nothing else.

Because they don't, and Penguin Head was spot on to call out the person for posting speculated opinion as fact.

Could be....although a final Mac album with the Rumours group would be more noteworthy (I think) than the Eagles final album was....and that one went triple platinum.

I did not post my opinion as fact. Give me a break. I used a provocative headline for my thoughts. You seem to believe that just because something is posted on the Ledge it must be true...which is just stupid.

If "EP" ends up being the final studio release then you opinion will be fact...

Oh shut up!! All of you. I can say that with out even having to read a single post on this page. Now let me go back and read them so I can apologize later... Not! Some people just want to make a fuss. Haha including me right now ;)