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richardmac 11-20-2014 12:50 PM

Worthy Mac dvd's
 
The only Mac dvd I've got is The Dance which is great. I've got the Mirage tour on VHS but I'd like to replace this with the dvd. Not all comments on amazon are complimentary though. Does anyone have the mirage dvd? Is it a good transfer? Are there any other Mac dvd's you'd recommend? Thanks, Rich.

Seasonsofmylife 11-20-2014 03:17 PM

I have the Mirage dvd but to be honest I have watched it once or twice and I can't remember how the quality was, I believe it wasn't bad. I can't check it for you now, because I packed all my FM stuff for my moving next week.

I can recommend the Live in Boston dvd, that's probably my favourite, the show is so energetic!

bombaysaffires 11-20-2014 04:45 PM

the Tusk documentary is a must.

mylittledemon 11-20-2014 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by richardmac (Post 1154198)
The only Mac dvd I've got is The Dance which is great. I've got the Mirage tour on VHS but I'd like to replace this with the dvd. Not all comments on amazon are complimentary though. Does anyone have the mirage dvd? Is it a good transfer? Are there any other Mac dvd's you'd recommend? Thanks, Rich.

Hey Rich... No (in my opinion) the MIRAGE DVD is not a good transfer. I'd love for someone to corner Mick and ask him why they've not released that concert in its entirety.

Anyway... The Dance and the Live in Boston set (from 2004) are probably your best bet. Destiny Rules isn't bad either, though it's not a live concert it's got some interesting stuff in it.

WatchChain 11-20-2014 06:07 PM

Most Mac dvd's are good and have their own individual merit.

Whatever you do, stay away from the TANGO IN THE NIGHT LIVE DVD...(with Billy Burnett and Rick Vito). The RE-FILMED close up shots of Stevie Nicks ALONE are enough to make the whole project laughable. Unless you want to play a good drinking game. The only time this DVD gets airplay at my house is for a kitschy FM party where we are all forced to take a drink every time a re-filmed SN "close up" shot sashays across the screen. This game also works well with "LIVE AT RED ROCKS". Rock on, Marty Callner!!!! Way to go with those "close-ups". So 80's !!!!!!!!!!:]

Wdm6789 11-20-2014 09:11 PM

I think everything that everyone has mentioned on here, I have watched on YouTube.

I always wondered why those close ups of Stevie on the Tango tour videos looked so out of place. It looks like they might have done the same thing with some of Christine's scenes as well. I hate so much that Lindsey did not do the Tango tour. Those videos would be so much better if it was the Rumours five. They just seem invalid to me since Lindsey is not in those videos.


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Originally Posted by mylittledemon (Post 1154241)
Hey Rich... No (in my opinion) the MIRAGE DVD is not a good transfer. I'd love for someone to corner Mick and ask him why they've not released that concert in its entirety.


Yes, anyone going to any meet and greets with Mick: please ask him where the full uncut Mirage tour video is. Also ask him to release it if he knows where it is.

moon 11-21-2014 08:30 AM

The Mirage DVD looks great, but I don't believe it's a good choice, and it's a shame because is just the best material from that tour.
The Tusk one is good, but you won't see enough songs. You see the work at the studio, but not a complete concert. The Dance is really amazing, I've got it too, and its definitely a good show, to see and listen. It's a shame that the CD version is not complete.
About Boston, yeah, it's a good show, with too much power, but I think is not good as The Dance is. Anyway, it's agood choice too.

And about a FM documentary, definitely Rock Family Trees is the best, even when Lindsey is not there. I like it because it talks about EVERY ERA of the band, the fake Mac, and shows you all the changes until 1995, year of release.

Regards!
Mark.

richardmac 11-21-2014 01:03 PM

Thanks for the replies. :thumbsup: I guess The Dance dvd will take some beating. I'd love more dvd's with this line-up. If the Mirage dvd is as good as the VHS re picture and sound, I'll get this one. I'd love to get the Tusk documentary. Is this available on dvd, I've only seen it on VHS years ago, and does it contain complete songs? I wish they'd release official dvd's of their 1975 and 1977 tours. I've seen bootlegs on ebay but I wasn't sure of the quality. Thanks, Rich.

michelej1 11-21-2014 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Wdm6789 (Post 1154261)
I think everything that everyone has mentioned on here, I have watched on YouTube.

I always wondered why those close ups of Stevie on the Tango tour videos looked so out of place. It looks like they might have done the same thing with some of Christine's scenes as well. I hate so much that Lindsey did not do the Tango tour. Those videos would be so much better if it was the Rumours five. They just seem invalid to me since Lindsey is not in those videos.

And when I bought my video, he was on the cover of the box. I guess my video was a bootleg though. But I didn't realize it. Michele

soul_drifter333 11-21-2014 02:32 PM

The Mirage concert is a bootleg and you can watch it on YouTube for free instead of giving a bootlegger your money. One of my favorites was the Disney Documentary, not officially released on DVD. There is a program called YouTube Downloader that will allow you to capture videos and burn them, if you prefer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDqkaUCk_oM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5-W1znnqOs


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Originally Posted by richardmac (Post 1154297)
Thanks for the replies. :thumbsup: I guess The Dance dvd will take some beating. I'd love more dvd's with this line-up. If the Mirage dvd is as good as the VHS re picture and sound, I'll get this one. I'd love to get the Tusk documentary. Is this available on dvd, I've only seen it on VHS years ago, and does it contain complete songs? I wish they'd release official dvd's of their 1975 and 1977 tours. I've seen bootlegs on ebay but I wasn't sure of the quality. Thanks, Rich.


Macfan4life 11-22-2014 09:55 AM

I would LOVE to see the Mirage tour in its entirety. I would also love to see the Mac live at the US Festival. Not sure why that has not come out yet. Stevie's 1983 US Festival appearance is a great show.

I really dislike the late 80's style of concerts where it is not really live. They get all glammed up and lip sync to the live cut and throw in the live show scenes from far away. Stevie Nicks Red Rocks and the Mac Tango DVD shows are 2 examples of this trickery. I cant stand to watch it.

nicole21290 11-22-2014 10:08 AM

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Originally Posted by soul_drifter333 (Post 1154305)
The Mirage concert is a bootleg and you can watch it on YouTube for free instead of giving a bootlegger your money. One of my favorites was the Disney Documentary, not officially released on DVD. There is a program called YouTube Downloader that will allow you to capture videos and burn them, if you prefer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VDqkaUCk_oM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5-W1znnqOs

You can download the Disney one here in five parts without bothering with YouTube, which I assume is lesser quality, though perhaps not.

http://buckinghamnicksff.blogspot.co...y-channel.html

Macfanforever 11-22-2014 11:25 AM

Clean up the Mirage DVD with todays High tech digital studios .They can enhance the old master tapes and make the Tusk docu look fresh .Put Tusk docu on DVD comes to mind at this moment.Also FM's US fest too.

The other wish is Stevie s HBO show and US fest show but that a whole other topic.

Macfan4life 11-22-2014 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1154378)
Clean up the Mirage DVD with todays High tech digital studios .They can enhance the old master tapes and make the Tusk docu look fresh .Put Tusk docu on DVD comes to mind at this moment.Also FM's US fest too.

The other wish is Stevie s HBO show and US fest show but that a whole other topic.

Yes I would also like to see the entire White Winged Dove tour. Now THAT would be something to see Bella Donna and Blue Lamp live.
I guess we can dream ;)

elle 11-22-2014 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by richardmac (Post 1154297)
Thanks for the replies. :thumbsup: I guess The Dance dvd will take some beating. I'd love more dvd's with this line-up. If the Mirage dvd is as good as the VHS re picture and sound, I'll get this one.

it is (the one from Argentina or Brasil). well worth it.

there is no good DVD release of Tusk doc like that, i bought one before and it's crappy and grainy and bad.

Live in Boston is pretty great.

elle 11-22-2014 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1154380)
Yes I would also like to see the entire White Winged Dove tour. Now THAT would be something to see Bella Donna and Blue Lamp live.
I guess we can dream ;)

if we are talking about solo members' DVDs, definitely Lindsey's Soundstage and Small Machine Live in LA are well worth it.

Macfanforever 11-22-2014 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1154385)
it is (the one from Argentina or Brasil). well worth it.

there is no good DVD release of Tusk doc like that, i bought one before and it's crappy and grainy and bad.

Live in Boston is pretty great.


I consider the Argentina and Brazil copies are boots copies from somebodies VHS tapes.I guess Amazon dont care if people sell boots on their website.

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Originally Posted by Macfan4life (Post 1154380)
Yes I would also like to see the entire White Winged Dove tour. Now THAT would be something to see Bella Donna and Blue Lamp live.
I guess we can dream ;)

Yes The complete show .Not the 55 minute version.
Speaking of Argentina and Brazil .I seen the HBO show DVD from there on Amazon.

BTW.They can throw those crappy copies into the Amazon river.Its right there.LOL....

elle 11-22-2014 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1154390)
I consider the Argentina and Brazil copies are boots copies from somebodies VHS tapes.I guess Amazon dont care if people sell boots on their website.



Yes The complete show .Not the 55 minute version.
Speaking of Argentina and Brazil .I seen the HBO show DVD from there on Amazon.

BTW.They can throw those crappy copies into the Amazon river.Its right there.LOL....

yes they are boots, but they are not crappy, that Mirage one is pretty great quality when you compare to all the Tusk doc boots floating out there. and without them we wouldn't have any good ones considering FM and WB don't care about releasing them. :shrug:

Macfanforever 11-22-2014 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1154394)
yes they are boots, but they are not crappy, that Mirage one is pretty great quality when you compare to all the Tusk doc boots floating out there. and without them we wouldn't have any good ones considering FM and WB don't care about releasing them. :shrug:

To come think about it. You are right.Most of our VHS copies are shot with dropouts galore.

They are better then nothing.

PenguinHead 11-22-2014 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by richardmac (Post 1154198)
The only Mac dvd I've got is The Dance which is great. I've got the Mirage tour on VHS but I'd like to replace this with the dvd. Not all comments on amazon are complimentary though. Does anyone have the mirage dvd? Is it a good transfer? Are there any other Mac dvd's you'd recommend? Thanks, Rich.

Fleetwood Mac has issued very few live concert DVDs. At least The Dance and and Say You Will were complete shows. The Tango in the Night DVD, as some others have mentioned, is an atrocity in it's production, and doesn't even feature the entire show.

I wish someone would release DVDs with footage of their early days, circa 1975-1979. Because it's owned by various entities, getting the rights would be challenging. It's unfortunate the Mirage show has not been reissued. I have the official originally released VCR edition, but it doesn't feature the entire show. I hope the rest of unused footage has been preserved. I have my doubts.

Macfanforever 11-22-2014 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 1154406)
Fleetwood Mac has issued very few live concert DVDs. At least The Dance and and Say You Will were complete shows. The Tango in the Night DVD, as some others have mentioned, is an atrocity in it's production, and doesn't even feature the entire show.

I wish someone would release DVDs with footage of their early days, circa 1975-1979. Because it's owned by various entities, getting the rights would be challenging. It's unfortunate the Mirage show has not been reissued. I have the official originally released VCR edition, but it doesn't feature the entire show. I hope the rest of unused footage has been preserved. I have my doubts.

I agree on hoping the unused footage is still around.
Its worth gold to us fans.I hope it shows up somewhere and not in the dumpster as people and businesses clean out their old warehouses or storage bins.

Wdm6789 11-22-2014 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1154408)
I agree on hoping the unused footage is still around.
Its worth gold to us fans.I hope it shows up somewhere and not in the dumpster as people and businesses clean out their old warehouses or storage bins.



Will someone going to meet Mick at a meet and greet or a book signing ask
him about the uncut Mirage video?

Macfanforever 11-23-2014 02:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Wdm6789 (Post 1154415)
Will someone going to meet Mick at a meet and greet or a book signing ask
him about the uncut Mirage video?

Also can ask him on releasing the Tusk docu on DVD too.

Houseonthehill 11-23-2014 01:13 PM

Although the transfer isn't flawless, I don't consider it to be "bad" by any means (the Mirage DVD transfer). The content however, is just WOW. They were all giving it their all, great songs, so much energy and the actual scene filming by HBO is superb.

Its what took me from a "Hey fleetwood mac is great band, the dance is awesome!" to "... :eek: this is the best thing ever, I can die happy"

Its a must own, right up there with the Dance.

Destiny rules is enjoyable, but has limited reputability.

moon 11-24-2014 10:09 AM

As I know, the Mirage DVD is a brazilian production, but here in Argentina were produced lot of copies, sadly, with a wrong cover, as they've got a picture from the Behind The Mask lineup... :shrug:

About the quality, I think it looks great, but has no the ideal sound, and it's not a complete show. And as I said before, it's a shame there's not a complete concert from the Tusk tour. Definitely it would look and sound better!!

The TITN show is really a waste of time. Even the Mirage one is better. The Dance and Boston are the best, BUT, when Boston has the energy, The Dance has the emotions. And a possible DVD of this tour could be a mix of both.
About solo concerts, Soundstage is the Lindsey's best, and White Winged Dove is the Stevie's one, and is just between the Tusk and the Mirage tours. See the quality! Maybe Mirage is not crappy at all.

Regards!

SisterNightroad 11-24-2014 12:10 PM

I'm surprised, am I the only one that wish a DVD of the Landover 1983 Stevie show? That show was a bomb! If it were cleaned up and released as a DVD I would be happy...

richardmac 11-24-2014 01:59 PM

I've just watched a live concert from 1975 on youtube. Great concert. It says it's complete, but it's only 11 songs. Is this a complete concert? I'm surprised Stevie had only one lead (Rhiannon). I'm surprised they didn't perform Landslide or Say you love me. It was great to hear all of them harmonising on an old Mac song though, Station man. Rich.

SisterNightroad 11-24-2014 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by richardmac (Post 1154532)
I've just watched a live concert from 1975 on youtube. Great concert. It says it's complete, but it's only 11 songs. Is this a complete concert? I'm surprised Stevie had only one lead (Rhiannon). I'm surprised they didn't perform Landslide or Say you love me. It was great to hear all of them harmonising on an old Mac song though, Station man. Rich.

The show is complete in the sense that is the complete recording available of the show; at the time they still didn't film their whole shows.
This is the complete setlist: http://www.setlist.fm/setlist/fleetw...-13d261ed.html

Street_Dreamer 11-24-2014 05:17 PM

It's a tragedy that the Mirage concert hasn't had an official DVD release in the US. In my opinion, it's far and away the best Fleetwood Mac concert video. The Tango In The Night DVD is absolute garbage mostly due to the (over)production of the show. I'm not too hot on the Live In Boston DVD(s) either. There's no reason why it should be split on two separate discs and the accompanying CD from the show isn't any better. A complete lackluster release in my view.

Besides the Tusk documentary, the documentaries for Christine's 1984 album and Mick's The Visitor need to be officially released on DVD too. Hopefully one day that will happen.

SisterNightroad 11-29-2014 01:29 PM

Correct me if I'm wrong, I think all the Fleetwood Mac pro-shot videos are:
1975 Largo
1975 Passaic
1976 Rosebud
1976 Midnight special
1977 Tokyo
1977 Sidney (sorry I forgot also this one!)
1978 Largo
1979 Largo
1979 Tusk documentary (St. Louis)
1980 Richfield (lost)
1982 San Bernardino or Us festival (unreleased)
1982 Inglewood or HBO concert
1987 San Francisco

while the Stevie pro-shot are:
1981 HBO concert
1983 Largo or Landover
1983 Us festival
1986 Red rocks

I personally want all the complete remastered footage released from any of this concerts.
I think it would be a nice move for FM (and Stevie) now to release box-sets of their classic albums with the remastered album, alternate versions and outer outtakes and
remastered live DVD.
For now this has been realized only for "Rumours" jumping over the white album and letting the 35 Tusk anniversay pass.
I think they don't realize how much fans want to see these things.

Wdm6789 12-01-2014 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1154882)
Correct me if I'm wrong, I think all the Fleetwood Mac pro-shot videos are:
1975 Largo
1976 Rosebud
1976 Midnight special
1977 Tokyo
1978 Largo
1979 Largo
1979 Tusk documentary (St. Louis)
1980 Richfield (lost)
1982 San Bernardino or Us festival (unreleased)
1982 Inglewood or HBO concert
1987 San Francisco

while the Stevie pro-shot are:
1981 HBO concert
1983 Largo or Landover
1983 Us festival
1986 Red rocks

I personally want all the complete remastered footage released from any of this concerts.
I think it would be a nice move for FM (and Stevie) now to release box-sets of their classic albums with the remastered album, alternate versions and outer outtakes and
remastered live DVD.
For now this has been realized only for "Rumours" jumping over the white album and letting the 35 Tusk anniversay pass.
I think they don't realize how much fans want to see these things.


This would be awesome.

Macfanforever 12-01-2014 11:46 PM

Long after I'm cold and dead all of their content probably be on DVD or what ever media at the time of release.

We are still waiting for B/N on CD and Stevie's HBO show get onto DVD. Thats whole other topic.

Great list SisterNightroad .My brain is dead tonight LOL and you mention the shows what I was thinking about.

Montclare 12-01-2014 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1154882)
Correct me if I'm wrong, I think all the Fleetwood Mac pro-shot videos are:
1975 Largo
1976 Rosebud
1976 Midnight special
1977 Tokyo
1978 Largo
1979 Largo
1979 Tusk documentary (St. Louis)
1980 Richfield (lost)
1982 San Bernardino or Us festival (unreleased)
1982 Inglewood or HBO concert
1987 San Francisco

Several months ago someone put a good quality 1975 Passaic concert on Youtube.

Anyone know the story behind the lost 1980 film? I wish there were more videos from the Tusk era. The documentary is the only good one I've seen (Largo one isn't the best quality; there is one 1980 Germany one showing Don't Stop, but I don't think I've seen any other songs from it)

PenguinHead 12-02-2014 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1154518)
I'm surprised, am I the only one that wish a DVD of the Landover 1983 Stevie show? That show was a bomb! If it were cleaned up and released as a DVD I would be happy...

Was that show professionally filmed? Wild Heart tour?

SisterNightroad 12-02-2014 08:59 AM

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Several months ago someone put a good quality 1975 Passaic concert on Youtube.

Anyone know the story behind the lost 1980 film? I wish there were more videos from the Tusk era. The documentary is the only good one I've seen (Largo one isn't the best quality; there is one 1980 Germany one showing Don't Stop, but I don't think I've seen any other songs from it)
Oh yes, I know about the Passaic show, I even downloaded it, but it momantarily slipped my mind, I'll edit my post since I forgot about the Sidney Rumours show too. The Passaic 1975 went out from the wolfgang's vault website, the same that put out the 1983 East Rutherford show. It's a great concert.

The Largo 1979 isn't the highest quality but it's a great show and there are some versions on the internet that aren't so low grade; the SuperFleetwoodmac remastered videos are sufficient and I think that with a professional remastering the Largo show could turn out just as good as the Rosebud remastered DVD of the 35th anniversary Rumours edition. I still think this last one was a waste tough and they should have put the Tokyo 1977 show as they had previously promised.

I read that the Richfield 1980 show was filmed for television and it aired on a minor TV channel but was never released. What bugs me is that it seems that noone in the entire US thought about recording it. You can see some footage from the show on the FM Tusk 20/20 special: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-NfVY51YdE

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Was that show professionally filmed? Wild Heart tour?
I've read that the 1983 Landover show was professionally filmed but ultimately wasn't released because Stevie was "high as a kite". I still love it more than the Us fest video though.
I'm talking about this show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_QoDDJ8QU
Stevie even says at 18:15 circa "See, they're filming this, that's why I'm not talking, it's because I know I'll have to watch it later..."

Macfanforever 12-02-2014 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1155087)
Oh yes, I know about the Passaic show, I even downloaded it, but it momantarily slipped my mind, I'll edit my post since I forgot about the Sidney Rumours show too. The Passaic 1975 went out from the wolfgang's vault website, the same that put out the 1983 East Rutherford show. It's a great concert.

The Largo 1979 isn't the highest quality but it's a great show and there are some versions on the internet that aren't so low grade; the SuperFleetwoodmac remastered videos are sufficient and I think that with a professional remastering the Largo show could turn out just as good as the Rosebud remastered DVD of the 35th anniversary Rumours edition. I still think this last one was a waste tough and they should have put the Tokyo 1977 show as they had previously promised.

I read that the Richfield 1980 show was filmed for television and it aired on a minor TV channel but was never released. What bugs me is that it seems that noone in the entire US thought about recording it. You can see some footage from the show on the FM Tusk 20/20 special: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-NfVY51YdE



I've read that the 1983 Landover show was professionally filmed but ultimately wasn't released because Stevie was "high as a kite". I still love it more than the Us fest video though.
I'm talking about this show: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aC_QoDDJ8QU
Stevie even says at 18:15 circa "See, they're filming this, that's why I'm not talking, it's because I know I'll have to watch it later..."

I have the Landover show on VHS and its blurry and muffled sound like the YT video.I got the VHS copy from a seller in the Goldmine Magazine years ago.

SisterNightroad 12-02-2014 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1155102)
I have the Landover show on VHS and its blurry and muffled sound like the YT video.I got the VHS copy from a seller in the Goldmine Magazine years ago.

Yes, I've never found a decent copy either, but hopefully the original is still stored somewhere and it will be released someday, maybe complete.
Sometimes I hear of traders that have decent copies but they won't share.
The audio is good though, there's no way it's not a soundboard.

Macfanforever 12-02-2014 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SisterNightroad (Post 1155105)
Yes, I've never found a decent copy either, but hopefully the original is still stored somewhere and it will be released someday, maybe complete.
Sometimes I hear of traders that have decent copies but they won't share.
The audio is good though, there's no way it's not a soundboard.

Yes I hope the masters are still playable . I hope a decent copy shows up somewhere.


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