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bombaysaffires 10-30-2014 12:03 PM

Taylor Swift channels Stevie..
 
Anyone else notice how Taylor Swift has been mimicking Stevie's 24k Gold vibe with her new album?

She's using that whole Polaroid, long-lost selfie thing in her promo pics:

http://store.taylorswift.com/LIMITED...Single-CD.html

http://store.taylorswift.com/TS-1989-CD.html

I think she carefully planned all along to use Stevie as a role model for songwriting: the whole write about your exes thing and then you'll generate lots of press with everyone trying to figure out which guy each song is about.

I think as she goes more pop and less country she's gonna become more and more "Stevie-like". She's already going that direction

http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/taylor-s...lpaper?ir=true

http://store.taylorswift.com/Speak-Now-CD.html

Just my opinion..

Macfanforever 10-30-2014 06:28 PM

One thing I worry about Taylor is if she goes nuts and act like an ahole and be a trouble maker like some of these young artists have lately.

I have not seen her video so I dont know what to say about her Stevie moves.
Taylor temporary or permanently ditched country music for pop music which reminds me when Olivia Newton-John ditched country music to pop when Physical came out.

I wonder if Taylor will get hold of Stevie and do a retry on some tunes.Maybe Taylor did some practice with Rhiannon.

louielouie2000 10-30-2014 08:05 PM

Actually, the first thing I thought of when I saw this:

http://static.tumblr.com/d47b1202c11...8ow0k0wcgo.png

Was this:

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmenta...mb-350x359.png

Vampire Weekend did the whole 1980-era polaroid as an album cover 4 full years before either Stevie or Taylor :p. Taylor has been living in New York for a while now, so she's no doubt picked up on that hipster culture. Polaroids, LPs, anything vintage- are all en vogue right now. Taylor is simply following a trend.

bombaysaffires 10-30-2014 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1151668)
Actually, the first thing I thought of when I saw this:

http://static.tumblr.com/d47b1202c11...8ow0k0wcgo.png

Was this:

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmenta...mb-350x359.png

Vampire Weekend did the whole 1980-era polaroid as an album cover 4 full years before either Stevie or Taylor :p. Taylor has been living in New York for a while now, so she's no doubt picked up on that hipster culture. Polaroids, LPs, anything vintage- are all en vogue right now. Taylor is simply following a trend.

ah. well, there ya go, it's official-- I'm not a hipster. :woohoo:

StreetAngel86 10-30-2014 10:41 PM

TSwift is annoying
and Stevie's polaroids are better.
was Swift even born in the 80s? no
her polaroids were probably taken on one of the pastel pink cameras released circa 2012 :lol:

HelloMonster 10-30-2014 11:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StreetAngel86 (Post 1151678)
TSwift is annoying
and Stevie's polaroids are better.
was Swift even born in the 80s? no
her polaroids were probably taken on one of the pastel pink cameras released circa 2012 :lol:

1989. My boyfriend is obsessed with her. :rolleyes: She can't sing for sh!t, and she makes horrible "oh, gee whiz! I'm so surprised you like me!" faces.

In short, she's the worst :lol:

BombaySapphire3 10-31-2014 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelloMonster (Post 1151681)
1989. My boyfriend is obsessed with her. :rolleyes: She can't sing for sh!t, and she makes horrible "oh, gee whiz! I'm so surprised you like me!" faces.

In short, she's the worst :lol:

I agree ..so glad I grew up in a different time when the biggest lady star in music was someone by the name of Stevie Nicks.

Macfanforever 10-31-2014 12:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelloMonster (Post 1151681)
1989. My boyfriend is obsessed with her. :rolleyes: She can't sing for sh!t, and she makes horrible "oh, gee whiz! I'm so surprised you like me!" faces.

In short, she's the worst :lol:

Some of her country tunes are ok.She falls into the manufactured type singers category.

Not a true artist like Stevie and the rest of her generation and older.

Yes I'm old enough to be her pop.She could use a spanking at times.Oops.We cant do that no more...

I dont know what the big deal with her.Today's country music sounds like pop rock anyway.Just add more rock guitar to the mix.

I guess I wont be hearing her on the Grand Ole Opry no more.LOL...

gypsyhelena 10-31-2014 02:59 AM

I like Taylor... her music's fun, as far as I can tell she's got a sweet personality, and she's become very vocal about feminist issues and sexism in the music industry as of late. And, if you compare her to most of the other female pop stars her age, she's far more 'authentic' as far as music goes- she writes or co-writes all her own music (and by 'co-write' I don't mean that her name is last on a list of five to ten songwriters for every song on an album), and her music is not designed purely for commercial appeal (Katy Perry, anyone?) Oh, and she's pretty well-behaved as well... From what I can tell, a fun night for her involves baking cookies and writing songs and Instagramming videos of her extraordinarily cute cats.

cactusjack 10-31-2014 04:29 AM

I don't want to slut shame, but she's gone through a lot of boyfriends....

HelloMonster 10-31-2014 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsyhelena (Post 1151690)
I like Taylor... her music's fun, as far as I can tell she's got a sweet personality, and she's become very vocal about feminist issues and sexism in the music industry as of late. And, if you compare her to most of the other female pop stars her age, she's far more 'authentic' as far as music goes- she writes or co-writes all her own music (and by 'co-write' I don't mean that her name is last on a list of five to ten songwriters for every song on an album), and her music is not designed purely for commercial appeal (Katy Perry, anyone?) Oh, and she's pretty well-behaved as well... From what I can tell, a fun night for her involves baking cookies and writing songs and Instagramming videos of her extraordinarily cute cats.

I respect your opinion. :nod: but I disagree! This last album is pure pop. If pop isn't meant for purely commercial appeal, then what is? Shake It Off is extremely lazy. Play play play play play, hate hate hate hate hate, shake shake shake shake shake, break break break break break, fake fake fake fake fake, shake shake shake shake shake.

And, I'm just gonna leave this here. Feel free to watch the entire video, or skip to 2:08.
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/tay...ate-1626334694

DauphineMarie 10-31-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1151668)
Actually, the first thing I thought of when I saw this:

http://static.tumblr.com/d47b1202c11...8ow0k0wcgo.png

Was this:

http://blogs.ocweekly.com/heardmenta...mb-350x359.png

Vampire Weekend did the whole 1980-era polaroid as an album cover 4 full years before either Stevie or Taylor :p. Taylor has been living in New York for a while now, so she's no doubt picked up on that hipster culture. Polaroids, LPs, anything vintage- are all en vogue right now. Taylor is simply following a trend.

In other news, has anyone heard Vampire Weekend's cover of Everywhere? Highly recommended, I love them. :thumbsup:

bombaysaffires 10-31-2014 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cactusjack (Post 1151694)
I don't want to slut shame, but she's gone through a lot of boyfriends....

yes, Stevie sure has! :eek:

DauphineMarie 10-31-2014 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1151717)
yes, Stevie sure has! :eek:

:shocked: That backfired so much lol

bombaysaffires 10-31-2014 12:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelloMonster (Post 1151708)
I respect your opinion. :nod: but I disagree! This last album is pure pop. If pop isn't meant for purely commercial appeal, then what is? Shake It Off is extremely lazy. Play play play play play, hate hate hate hate hate, shake shake shake shake shake, break break break break break, fake fake fake fake fake, shake shake shake shake shake.

And, I'm just gonna leave this here. Feel free to watch the entire video, or skip to 2:08.
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/tay...ate-1626334694

there's audio of quite a few bad Stevie vocal performances live as well…..

HelloMonster 10-31-2014 12:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1151723)
there's audio of quite a few bad Stevie vocal performances live as well…..

You're right. Could have just been a bad day.

But it could also be the alternative! ;) Oh well.

gypsyhelena 10-31-2014 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelloMonster (Post 1151708)
I respect your opinion. :nod: but I disagree! This last album is pure pop. If pop isn't meant for purely commercial appeal, then what is? Shake It Off is extremely lazy. Play play play play play, hate hate hate hate hate, shake shake shake shake shake, break break break break break, fake fake fake fake fake, shake shake shake shake shake.

And, I'm just gonna leave this here. Feel free to watch the entire video, or skip to 2:08.
http://theconcourse.deadspin.com/tay...ate-1626334694

Shake It Off is super catchy, yes, but the latest single off the album, Out Of The Woods (or maybe it was a promotional single? I'm not sure...) isn't nearly as catchy, in fact I find quite grating. And as for the video... the song is literally called Shake It Off, so it's not like she's going to stand still with perfect choral posture for the entire performance! Even Lady Gaga, who has one of the best voices of this generation's pop stars, sometimes finds it difficult to hit and hold some notes if she's dancing hard. :blob1::blob2::blob1:

HelloMonster 10-31-2014 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gypsyhelena (Post 1151735)
Shake It Off is super catchy, yes, but the latest single off the album, Out Of The Woods (or maybe it was a promotional single? I'm not sure...) isn't nearly as catchy, in fact I find quite grating. And as for the video... the song is literally called Shake It Off, so it's not like she's going to stand still with perfect choral posture for the entire performance! Even Lady Gaga, who has one of the best voices of this generation's pop stars, sometimes finds it difficult to hit and hold some notes if she's dancing hard. :blob1::blob2::blob1:

I love Gaga. She's a beast :D but that video I posted, during that long, horrible "woooaaahh" she's standing still. ;) And her performance with Stevie was standing dead still too. I stand by my argument, taylor swift just sucks at singing. She's a decent songwriter/performer, yes. Singer? Nah.

MikeVielhaber 10-31-2014 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1151687)
Some of her country tunes are ok.She falls into the manufactured type singers category.

Not a true artist like Stevie and the rest of her generation and older.

Yes I'm old enough to be her pop.She could use a spanking at times.Oops.We cant do that no more...

I dont know what the big deal with her.Today's country music sounds like pop rock anyway.Just add more rock guitar to the mix.

I guess I wont be hearing her on the Grand Ole Opry no more.LOL...

I'd like to hear some reasons for thinking she's not a true artist. I'm no Taylor Swift fan (though I have nothing against her and like a few songs), but she definitely has some talent there. She's more of a musician than Stevie is. She's a songwriter and she's in control of her music. She has co-writers, though not always and in fact one of her albums is solely written by her, but she does not have songs written for her.

michelej1 10-31-2014 11:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1151745)
I'd like to hear some reasons for thinking she's not a true artist. I'm no Taylor Swift fan (though I have nothing against her and like a few songs), but she definitely has some talent there. She's more of a musician than Stevie is. She's a songwriter and she's in control of her music. She has co-writers, though not always and in fact one of her albums is solely written by her, but she does not have songs written for her.

I actually thought she was more of an artist a few years ago than she is now. She's becoming more juvenile with age.

But yeah, compare her to someone like Britney Spears and .... well, there's no comparison. Taylor can create.

Michele

singertobe 11-02-2014 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1151637)
Anyone else notice how Taylor Swift has been mimicking Stevie's 24k Gold vibe with her new album?

She's using that whole Polaroid, long-lost selfie thing in her promo pics:

http://store.taylorswift.com/LIMITED...Single-CD.html

http://store.taylorswift.com/TS-1989-CD.html

I think she carefully planned all along to use Stevie as a role model for songwriting: the whole write about your exes thing and then you'll generate lots of press with everyone trying to figure out which guy each song is about.

I think as she goes more pop and less country she's gonna become more and more "Stevie-like". She's already going that direction

http://www.fanpop.com/clubs/taylor-s...lpaper?ir=true

http://store.taylorswift.com/Speak-Now-CD.html

Just my opinion..

When Taylor first came out I was about 14 and the minute I saw her videos I was like "Oh my gosh she's JUST LIKE STEVIE!"

Macfanforever 11-02-2014 01:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1151745)
I'd like to hear some reasons for thinking she's not a true artist. I'm no Taylor Swift fan (though I have nothing against her and like a few songs), but she definitely has some talent there. She's more of a musician than Stevie is. She's a songwriter and she's in control of her music. She has co-writers, though not always and in fact one of her albums is solely written by her, but she does not have songs written for her.

Sorry about being blunt.I was comparing her with the old artists.I do like her and also she got good looks.She does have talent but I think I'm being to hard on these current artists.I cant get into the new music like I have done years ago.

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1151770)
I actually thought she was more of an artist a few years ago than she is now. She's becoming more juvenile with age.

But yeah, compare her to someone like Britney Spears and .... well, there's no comparison. Taylor can create.

Michele


Yes I see that at times.I think she has a level head on her shoulders.

She's not to go off the wall like Britney Spears,Amanda Bynes and Justin Bieber to just to name a few .

He's So Unusual 11-02-2014 11:48 AM

Taylor Swift is just so....bland. She has the personality of a dead fish. I watched a clip of her on Graham Norton the other night, and I had to turn it off. As for her lyrics, they mostly read like diary entries of a 12 year old girl. And even when she was classed as country she was always country light. She's more overrated than Lady Gaga.

MikeVielhaber 11-02-2014 01:49 PM

I Don't know how to embed a video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAhAz7JU0dg

Macfanforever 11-02-2014 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1151953)
I Don't know how to embed a video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAhAz7JU0dg

That was funny.Heres the embedded link Mike.



StreetAngel86 11-02-2014 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelloMonster (Post 1151681)
1989. My boyfriend is obsessed with her. :rolleyes: She can't sing for sh!t, and she makes horrible "oh, gee whiz! I'm so surprised you like me!" faces.

In short, she's the worst :lol:

ugh thanks for ruining my life lol couldn't it have been 1990

what i hate about her is ... all her damn songs get stuck in my head
i cant stand them and yet i know all the freaking words :shocked:

MikeVielhaber 11-03-2014 01:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelloMonster (Post 1151739)
I love Gaga. She's a beast :D but that video I posted, during that long, horrible "woooaaahh" she's standing still. ;) And her performance with Stevie was standing dead still too. I stand by my argument, taylor swift just sucks at singing. She's a decent songwriter/performer, yes. Singer? Nah.

She's not singing acapella she's singing with musical accompaniment. Which means she doesn't have to be perfect isolated she just has to suit the arrangement. When FM performed Gypsy on the Today show and they had Stevie's vocals boosted high in the mix I thought she sounded bad. But I gave her a pass because that's not how it's supposed to sound. She's supposed to be blended into the music and harmony vocals more.

HelloMonster 11-03-2014 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MikeVielhaber (Post 1152000)
She's not singing acapella she's singing with musical accompaniment. Which means she doesn't have to be perfect isolated she just has to suit the arrangement. When FM performed Gypsy on the Today show and they had Stevie's vocals boosted high in the mix I thought she sounded bad. But I gave her a pass because that's not how it's supposed to sound. She's supposed to be blended into the music and harmony vocals more.

Does that make Taylor a good singer if she has to rely on being mixed in with the music and harmony to sound acceptable? :shrug: What about when there isn't a lot of accompanying harmonies or music to blend in to, like the when she started to sing at the 2010 Grammys?

MikeVielhaber 11-03-2014 11:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HelloMonster (Post 1152001)
Does that make Taylor a good singer if she has to rely on being mixed in with the music and harmony to sound acceptable? :shrug: What about when there isn't a lot of accompanying harmonies or music to blend in to, like the when she started to sing at the 2010 Grammys?

I'm saying she's adequate. I'm sure she's better when she's not running around. But with her it's not really about her technical proficiency as a singer. It's about the songs. She's good enough for the songs she sings.


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