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James89 09-19-2014 05:45 PM

24 Karat Gold sales predictions
 
Prediction time! Now that we've heard a few songs from the album and we have seen how promotion has been getting along, how well do we think '24 Karat Gold ~ Songs From The Vault' will do on the US charts and how many copies will it sell in its first week?

MikeInNV 09-19-2014 06:01 PM

The thing about chart position is that it's so variable depending on the competition that week. Just a few weeks ago, IYD's first-week numbers would have landed it at No. 2.

Another thing I'm wondering about is the vinyl release one week followed by the CD release a week later. Then you have to factor in the digital sales. Are the sales going to be split over a two-week period, thereby lessening the chart impact? I know that sort of thing isn't supposed to be important, but with all the buzz the album is getting, it deserves to make a splash.

James89 09-19-2014 06:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeInNV (Post 1143479)
The thing about chart position is that it's so variable depending on the competition that week. Just a few weeks ago, IYD's first-week numbers would have landed it at No. 2.

Another thing I'm wondering about is the vinyl release one week followed by the CD release a week later. Then you have to factor in the digital sales. Are the sales going to be split over a two-week period, thereby lessening the chart impact? I know that sort of thing isn't supposed to be important, but with all the buzz the album is getting, it deserves to make a splash.

The early vinyl release is really confusing me. I don't see the vinyl sales being allowed to make the album chart a week before the CD and digital release as it would probably debut at about #100 and that isn't good publicity. I think they will just combine it, if they can, to get the best first week sales figure and position they can get. Does anyone know if they can include vinyl sales in the total figure a week later? :shrug:

Macfanforever 09-19-2014 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by James89 (Post 1143481)
The early vinyl release is really confusing me. I don't see the vinyl sales being allowed to make the album chart a week before the CD and digital release as it would probably debut at about #100 and that isn't good publicity. I think they will just combine it, if they can, to get the best first week sales figure and position they can get. Does anyone know if they can include vinyl sales in the total figure a week later? :shrug:

Thats a good question James.The sales of vinyl,CD and digital downloads should be merged together when it hits the charts.

I have a good feeling this outing will sell great since Stevie is doing her saleswoman position routine to peddle her music and the FM tour will help sales too.I hope the rest of the band will let her plug and mention her album at the shows.

KarmaContestant 09-19-2014 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by James89 (Post 1143481)
The early vinyl release is really confusing me. I don't see the vinyl sales being allowed to make the album chart a week before the CD and digital release as it would probably debut at about #100 and that isn't good publicity. I think they will just combine it, if they can, to get the best first week sales figure and position they can get. Does anyone know if they can include vinyl sales in the total figure a week later? :shrug:

Billboard has a vinyl chart, too. It could be a strategy to top the vinyl charts one week, and instead of a week two drop, she gets a huge boost from digital and CD sales on the regular Rock charts..

http://www.billboard.com/biz/charts/vinyl-albums

I don't know what the rules are, though, about a staggered release or how it's counted.

Jondalar 09-19-2014 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1143486)
Billboard has a vinyl chart, too. It could be a strategy to top the vinyl charts one week, and instead of a week two drop, she gets a huge boost from digital and CD sales on the regular Rock charts..

http://www.billboard.com/biz/charts/vinyl-albums

I don't know what the rules are, though, about a staggered release or how it's counted.

I bought the vinyl and I don't even have a record player... :)

KenshiMaster16 09-19-2014 07:07 PM

Seeing as it's basically a collection of rarities, I don't think this is gonna get Top 10. Top 20 is more of a probability. However, I still think this on the off chance can hit the Top 10. It just depends on whether people even realize it's out besides those who just scan through iTunes every Tuesday and still go into record shops (sorry, CD stores lol).

Hopefully all of the Mac publicity this year though makes people more aware of its release.

BlueDenimLamp 09-19-2014 07:15 PM

Stevie's run on "The Voice" should start soon so that should help as well...She's also getting extra press from her art showing...

Jondalar 09-19-2014 07:16 PM

With this album and IYDs, talking about sales will only disappoint. She is in her 60s and there is no place to promote. Look at the creative. She is still working on her legacy and these two albums are going in the positive column. Just thinking about sales is putting a damper on this. Sheryl Crows last album was a total bomb and she did get a lot of airplay on country stations. Just gotta enjoy the music.

She made this album for her true fans.

SpyNote 09-19-2014 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by KenshiMaster16 (Post 1143493)
Seeing as it's basically a collection of rarities, I don't think this is gonna get Top 10. Top 20 is more of a probability. However, I still think this on the off chance can hit the Top 10. It just depends on whether people even realize it's out besides those who just scan through iTunes every Tuesday and still go into record shops (sorry, CD stores lol).

Hopefully all of the Mac publicity this year though makes people more aware of its release.

I agree. Retrospectives always sell less than new work, though it can be argued that everything on 24 Karat Gold is new to the general public! If it debuts in the Top 10, I will be pleasantly surprised.

MikeInNV 09-19-2014 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by SpyNote (Post 1143524)
I agree. Retrospectives always sell less than new work, though it can be argued that everything on 24 Karat Gold is new to the general public! If it debuts in the Top 10, I will be pleasantly surprised.

I don't see this as a retrospective in the traditional sense. As you said, everything is new to the general public, and the superfans who have collected the demos all these years will be buying it anyway, so I don't think the audience is diminished much.

WildHearted 09-19-2014 09:23 PM

I think she'll sell right around 60,000 but where that will land her on the charts is totally up in the air. I think definitely she'll make the top 10 though.

Although I will say, I think the "Songs From The Vault" clause in the title of the album might not do her any favors, sale-wise. It makes it seem like it's a compilation of deep cuts or something, not new material (which it IS, in the sense that it's never been released before).

Macfanforever 09-19-2014 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1143495)
Stevie's run on "The Voice" should start soon so that should help as well...She's also getting extra press from her art showing...

Yes .I forgot to mention that .

BLY 09-19-2014 09:37 PM

I do believe this release is going to do very well. There has never been a solo release as the band is about to go on a tour ( let alone a " reunion" tour) Stevie also mentions Fleetwood Mac more on these recent interviews than she has on past releases. I really doubt there will be a solo tour to promote this disc in 2015. I still think the New a Fleetwood Mac Album will be released in the late spring of 2015 and the MAC tour will continue ( assuming all in good health)

sorcerer999 09-19-2014 09:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1143542)
I really doubt there will be a solo tour to promote this disc in 2015.

Well, if this Sharon Celani Instagram account is indeed legit, then Stevie should do a solo tour to promote this record in summer 2015...or so she says.

BLY 09-19-2014 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sorcerer999 (Post 1143545)
Well, if this Sharon Celani Instagram account is indeed legit, then Stevie should do a solo tour to promote this record in summer 2015...or so she says.



I don't about how legit it is but I think Fleetwood Mac has to be touring somewhere if they release their new recordings. I guess we will see.:shrug:

tabruns 09-19-2014 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by SpyNote (Post 1143524)
I agree. Retrospectives always sell less than new work, though it can be argued that everything on 24 Karat Gold is new to the general public! If it debuts in the Top 10, I will be pleasantly surprised.

This isn't really a retrospective though in that these songs have largely not been officially released. Some of them are quite familiar to intense Nicks fans but to more casual listeners they'll all be brand new. Heck, I never heard of "Secret Love" before IYD...so even fans that own everything Nicks puts out may not have heard some of these demos.

HoursAndHours 09-20-2014 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1143549)
I don't about how legit it is but I think Fleetwood Mac has to be touring somewhere if they release their new recordings. I guess we will see.:shrug:

I thought they had two rounds of touring lined up. I guess I just assumed the new FM album would come out between the two tours, the first being a "reunion" tour and the second being a promotional tour for the new record. :shrug:

BLY 09-20-2014 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by HoursAndHours (Post 1143604)
I thought they had two rounds of touring lined up. I guess I just assumed the new FM album would come out between the two tours, the first being a "reunion" tour and the second being a promotional tour for the new record. :shrug:



Exactly what I'm thinking. There will be no tour in 2015 to support 24 KG. The Fleetwood Mac tour will support it and then the new MAC album will be released and the tour will continue.

welcomechris 09-20-2014 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BLY (Post 1143610)
Exactly what I'm thinking. There will be no tour in 2015 to support 24 KG. The Fleetwood Mac tour will support it and then the new MAC album will be released and the your will continue.

Stevie said 2 tours next year

pryderi 09-20-2014 02:23 PM

I have this strange feeling we will all be surprised.

pryderi 09-20-2014 02:34 PM

pleasantly suprised

He's So Unusual 09-21-2014 12:43 PM

I'm predicting lower end of the top 10 on the Billboard 200 with little longevity. I doubt it will do much outside of the US. Anyway, the main thing is the music which is sounding really good so far.

Macfanforever 09-21-2014 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by welcomechris (Post 1143619)
Stevie said 2 tours next year

I hope so.But I hope she does not overdo herself.

James89 10-15-2014 11:10 AM

Well it looks like the majority of the voters were right!

Stevie has debuted at #7 with sales of 33,000 so I think that falls under the 'around or more than 40,000 and will be around the top 5'. :)

tabruns 10-15-2014 08:37 PM

I'd love to see "Blue Water" become an actual real country chart hit.

michelej1 10-15-2014 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1149707)
I'd love to see "Blue Water" become an actual real country chart hit.

I think it can. Like when is the next CMT show or something? She needs to perform Blue Water with Lady Antebellum on a nationally televised show, then get the country radio airplay. I think it could be a hit.

Michele

BlueDenimLamp 10-15-2014 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1149707)
I'd love to see "Blue Water" become an actual real country chart hit.

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1149712)
I think it can. Like when is the next CMT show or something? She needs to perform Blue Water with Lady Antebellum on a nationally televised show, then get the country radio airplay. I think it could be a hit.

Michele



They did give her a shout out and it would be a smart move on her part to perform "Blue Water" with them at a televised country event or even just showing up at one of their concerts so the performance would end up on youtube...

tabruns 10-15-2014 09:54 PM

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Originally Posted by He's So Unusual (Post 1143725)
I'm predicting lower end of the top 10 on the Billboard 200 with little longevity. I doubt it will do much outside of the US. Anyway, the main thing is the music which is sounding really good so far.

Interestingly, it's been doing quite well outside the US....top 20 debuts in Australia, UK, elsewhere

PenguinHead 10-18-2014 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1149716)


They did give her a shout out and it would be a smart move on her part to perform "Blue Water" with them at a televised country event or even just showing up at one of their concerts so the performance would end up on youtube...

Great idea! I hope she takes advantage of that opportunity. But given her track record of bad timing and missed or overlooked opportunities, I wouldn't bet on it.


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