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feetwood_hat 07-23-2014 11:59 PM

On With the Show Tour
 
Ok, so...I used to be a member here forever ago but can't remember my username or password.

Either way, I am a rabid Fleetwood Mac fan, ALWAYS go and see them whenever they come to Australia, and was bitterly disappointed when they cancelled late last year due to poor John and was then hugely excited when they rescheduled WITH Christine for a US tour right when I would actually BE in the US! (for the first time ever)

I booked my partner and I tickets to the October 6 show at Madison Square Garden, and then...my partner cannot get her US visa in time. SIGH. So we can't go and have to cancel our entire 5 week trip including the Fleetwood Mac show!

I'm waiting to see if the Ticketmaster people can help me out, but if not, is anyone interested in buying my two tickets!? I can verify. I am also not looking to make any sort of profit. The seats are not amazing, but at least they're something.

Anyone interested, let me know, and sorry if this is illegal on here! I don't want empty seats at a show I would've LOVED to have gone to!

Aussie W/Heart 07-24-2014 01:05 AM

If i had the cash to buy you tickets and flights to the US to see F/Mac i would without hesitation... I also had great seats to see them in Brissy last year, pretty devastated to say the least :distress:..

Actually all day today i have been sitting by the phone, trying to enter in a radio competition to win tickets to see them at Maddison Square Garden. Wish me luck everyone :)

PenguinHead 07-24-2014 01:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by feetwood_hat (Post 1135005)
Ok, so...I used to be a member here forever ago but can't remember my username or password.

Either way, I am a rabid Fleetwood Mac fan, ALWAYS go and see them whenever they come to Australia, and was bitterly disappointed when they cancelled late last year due to poor John and was then hugely excited when they rescheduled WITH Christine for a US tour right when I would actually BE in the US! (for the first time ever)

I booked my partner and I tickets to the October 6 show at Madison Square Garden, and then...my partner cannot get her US visa in time. SIGH. So we can't go and have to cancel our entire 5 week trip including the Fleetwood Mac show!

I'm waiting to see if the Ticketmaster people can help me out, but if not, is anyone interested in buying my two tickets!? I can verify. I am also not looking to make any sort of profit. The seats are not amazing, but at least they're something.

Anyone interested, let me know, and sorry if this is illegal on here! I don't want empty seats at a show I would've LOVED to have gone to!

So sorry your plans fell through. Can't you find another friend or someone else who has a visa? I don't think it's illegal or inappropriate to inquire about it here. I suggest you post the offer on Craig's List online, to reach a more centralized, New York market.

pattyfan 07-24-2014 05:30 AM

I have often sold extra tickets on craigslist. If you aren't familiar with it, it's an online board which has everything, including tickets. You are not allowed to scalp, so make sure that the price you list is the amount that you actually paid. (you can include service charges). You may want to charge a little less than face value if the show isn't sold out and if you don't have really good seats. At least that way you would get most of your money back.

I'm really sorry you and your partner can't go. :(

If you need any help figuring out craigslist, let me know and I"ll be glad to help.

Kevin

loverly13 07-24-2014 09:11 AM

Where are the seats!? I wasn't able to buy any - I got shut out - and would definitely be interested. I live in NYC and need to buy them for my myself and my mom! DM me if you need!

feetwood_hat 07-25-2014 01:30 AM

Thanks so much for these posts! :)

I might try Craigslist if nothing else eventuates, and no, none of my friends or family can afford to go with me on a 5 week trip, nor can they take that much time off work, or they don't WANT to be stuck with me for that long. lol

feetwood_hat 07-25-2014 05:16 AM

Actually, craigslist is out. It won't let my listing go live as I don't have a US phone number.

Because I'm in Australia, it wants me to post in Australia. Which is virtually pointless as the tickets are for a US event!!!

MacFan77 07-30-2014 10:57 PM

pre-concert meet ups
 
I'm a casual fan who is new to this board and a novice on FM history. On past tours have there been posts on traveling fans getting together for dinner before the show? I will be attending the Indianapolis show on 10/21 and would be interested in meeting up with some rabid fans before the concert to absorb all I can about the band. Also, if anyone is familiar with Indy and can suggest a nice place to meet or at least eat in the vicinity of the Bankers Life Fieldhouse I would appreciate it. Thanks!

pattyfan 07-31-2014 01:31 AM

Why do you need a US phone number? I've posted on CL many times without a phone number.
There are other on line ticket sites like stub hub. Can you try though them?
Kevin

Danigirl 07-31-2014 01:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacFan77 (Post 1136154)
I'm a casual fan who is new to this board and a novice on FM history. On past tours have there been posts on traveling fans getting together for dinner before the show? I will be attending the Indianapolis show on 10/21 and would be interested in meeting up with some rabid fans before the concert to absorb all I can about the band. Also, if anyone is familiar with Indy and can suggest a nice place to meet or at least eat in the vicinity of the Bankers Life Fieldhouse I would appreciate it. Thanks!

Welcome:) this sounds like so much fun. I will be traveling to Phoenix,
And would love to meet fellow FM fans. My friends will finally realize I'm not the only one, who is this "crazy" about the band. Best of luck getting together with fellow Ledgies.

michelej1 10-05-2014 02:47 PM

NEWSDAY: CHRISTINE MCVIE TALKS FLEETWOOD MAC'S 'UNPRECEDENTED' RETURN AHEAD OF MADISON SQUARE GARDEN CONCERTS .
http://www.newsday.com/entertainment...erts-1.9458766

Oct 03 2014 15:37:16 By Glenn Gamboa Newsday

Oct. 03--Fleetwood Mac didn't think they would ever be at full strength again.

In 1998, when singer-keyboardist Christine McVie retired from touring, that seemed to be the end of an era -- the finale for Fleetwood Mac's "Rumours"-era lineup of Christine McVie, drummer Mick Fleetwood, bassist John McVie, guitarist Lindsey Buckingham and singer Stevie Nicks.

They had a legendary run, especially with "Rumours," which remains the ninth- biggest-selling album in history after 19 million copies were sold in the United States alone. But part of the Mac's legend was also its contentiousness. After all, it was built on two couples that had broken up.

When McVie left the band, not out of contentiousness, but because she didn't feel she could continue physically or mentally, the band accepted it.

"It was multiple reasons why I thought, 'I've had enough. I wanna go home and live in the country and get a Range Rover and get the dogs, the Wellie boots and the scarf and cook for the YMCA' or whatever," McVie recently told CBS News. "And I sort of had this misguided idea that that was the life that I wanted, you know? And to some degree, I enjoyed it for a few years."

Nicks saw that her friend was happy in her new life, but always held out hope she would change her mind. When McVie sold her pianos because she thought she wouldn't need them, Nicks secretly bought them and kept them in storage. Just in case.

Nicks says Fleetwood Mac has always been about doing the best set it possibly can, but without McVie, all the classics she sang on became off-the-table.

"We are totally willing to try anything, and that's what we do," Nicks says. "You can kind of feel what works and what doesn't work. The unfortunate thing is, we haven't fared well in doing Chris' songs. We don't sound like Chris. I don't sound good singing lead on her songs. Lindsey doesn't sound good singing lead on her songs."

While Fleetwood Mac was working on moving on without her, McVie was working on moving on herself. She went for therapy to deal with her phobia of flying and eventually worked through it. Her first flight was to visit Fleetwood at his home in Maui.

McVie surprisingly joined the band for its London show at The O2 arena last year. "It was so comfortable being back onstage with them, as if no time had passed, and then we all started talking, and it feels like the time is right," she says. "I'm really happy."

And there were no doubts from the rest of Fleetwood Mac. "As far as we're concerned, she's never really left," the band said in a joint statement. "We are overjoyed to have Christine back on stage with us."

The band has already been in the studio this year, working on new music, though the fruits of their labor probably won't be heard until next year. However, the simple reunion of the Rock and Roll Hall of Famers seems to be enough of an event for everyone. Their new tour, which stops at Madison Square Garden tomorrow and Tuesday, will mark only the second time all five members of the band have toured together in the past 30 years.

The last time came after the brokered peace following their decision to play at President Bill Clinton's inaugural gala in 1993, a collaboration that brought Buckingham back into the fold for what eventually would become "The Dance" album and tour.

It's no wonder the band sees the new "On With the Show" tour as a cause for celebration and plans to enjoy it.

"This is sort of pretty unprecedented, really, that someone should leave such a high-status group as Fleetwood Mac and then return," McVie told CBS News. "If you're not gonna have fun then, you're never gonna have any fun. So I'm sure that the whole band is in agreement that we wanna have a really good time and celebrate our friendship and our lives together."

WHO Fleetwood Mac

WHEN -- WHERE 8 p.m. Monday and Tuesday, Madison Square Garden

INFO $49.50-$199.50; 800-745-3000, ticketmaster.com

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KEEPING UP

Part of what keeps Fleetwood Mac strong 47 years after drummer Mick Fleetwood first teamed up with bassist John McVie is the way their individual projects feed into the band as a whole. Here's what The Mac's members have been up to recently:

MICK FLEETWOOD

MOST RECENT PROJECT His autobiography, "Play On: Now, Then and Fleetwood Mac," will be released Oct. 28, where Fleetwood tells the story of his career and his band.

ALSO WORKING ON His restaurant, Fleetwood's on Front Street, on the island of Maui, with specialties like cioppino and grilled shutome (swordfish).

STEVIE NICKS

MOST RECENT PROJECT Her new album, "24 Karat Gold: Songs From the Vault," will be released on Tuesday, featuring the single "The Dealer" and other previously unreleased songs.

ALSO WORKING ON The "24 Karat Gold" photo exhibit, featuring self-portrait Polaroids she has taken for decades while on tour, will open at the Morrison Hotel Gallery in Manhattan next Friday.

LINDSEY BUCKINGHAM

MOST RECENT PROJECT "One Man Show," his first solo acoustic live album, combining Fleetwood Mac classics with solo material such as "Trouble."

ALSO WORKING ON Songs for the new Fleetwood Mac album.

CHRISTINE McVIE

MOST RECENT PROJECT She put out a solo album "In the Meantime" in 2004 that she was proud of, but because of her fear of flying at the time could not promote.

ALSO WORKING ON Songs for the new Fleetwood Mac album.

JOHN McVIE

MOST RECENT PROJECT He's been focused on his health after being diagnosed last year with an unspecified cancer, resulting in the cancellation of the band's Australian tour last fall.

ALSO WORKING ON Songs for the new Fleetwood Mac album.

michelej1 10-09-2014 01:45 PM

Buck County Courier Times

http://www.buckscountycouriertimes.c...29d899a8f.html

Posted: Thursday, October 9, 2014 12:15 am

By MARTY FRANZEN Correspondent

Fleetwood Mac regroups for a world tour


Some artists tell you this is their final tour, but with others, you just never know.

This week, two shows are essential for music fans, a third is highly recommended and the fourth is an exciting pairing of former boy band rivals.

FLEETWOOD MAC

Back in 1998, Christine McVie, one of the three lead singers in Fleetwood Mac, quit the band and its possible tours.

She was tired, having been a group member since 1970. So that was it. The classic lineup of McVie, her ex-husband John McVie, Mick Fleetwood, Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks would never appear together again.

Until now.

Earlier this year, Fleetwood Mac — which appears Saturday at the Prudential Center at 165 Mulberry St. in Newark and Wednesday at the Wells Fargo Center at 3601 S. Broad St. in Philadelphia — announced it had fully regrouped and had completed recording most of a new album. A world tour would be next, followed by the 2015 album release.

Since that announcement, more details have come forth. One significant detail is Christine McVie has written or co-written a majority of the disc’s songs so far.

That should keep her interested since, in her absence, there was talk of the original Mac lineup getting together, one that would have included Jeremy Spencer, Peter Green, Fleetwood, John McVie and Danny Kirwan. But that was just talk.

So far, the band isn’t debuting any new songs on tour, choosing instead to revive songs like “Little Lies,” “Everywhere” and “Seven Wonders” from the 1990 album “Tango in the Night.” Fans will get to hear many of their favorites, including “Landslide,” “Tusk,” “Gypsy,” “Dreams” and “Rhiannon.”

Show time at Prudential: 8 p.m. Tickets: $49.50 to $199.50. Information: 973-854-8760.

Show time at Wells Fargo: 8 p.m. Tickets: $49.50 to $179.50; Information: 800-298-4200.

michelej1 10-11-2014 01:06 PM

Nashville Scene by Adam Gold, October 10, 2014

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashvi...thers-nominate

In similar news: Yesterday Daltrey and Townshend’s fellow sexagenarian stadium gladiators Fleetwood Mac announced a Nashville date on their own 2015 Golden Years Revived Not Necessarily Relived Tour (unofficial title).

The Mac makes way to Bridgestone March 18, where they last played in 2009, during the arena’s Sommet Center days. It was, despite a solid-as-**** set list and Lindsey Buckingham’s awesomely uncomfortable guitargasm faces, a plodding, lackluster show that made The Spin feel, “like we were 15 again, bored and squirming in our seats.” But this time around, ringer singer Christine McVie is, following a 16-year furlough, back in the band. So maybe that’ll make all the difference. Tickets for that rock ’n’ roll celebration of social security cost $45-$175 and go on sale Oct. 27 at 10 a.m. here.

To be clear, there’s nothing wrong with still rocking into old age (case in point: Bruce Springsteen, who as of last month, is eligible for social security); but let’s put into perspective just how ****ing old these bands are.

secret love 10-11-2014 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1148683)
Nashville Scene by Adam Gold, October 10, 2014

http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashvi...thers-nominate

In similar news: Yesterday Daltrey and Townshend’s fellow sexagenarian stadium gladiators Fleetwood Mac announced a Nashville date on their own 2015 Golden Years Revived Not Necessarily Relived Tour (unofficial title).

The Mac makes way to Bridgestone March 18, where they last played in 2009, during the arena’s Sommet Center days. It was, despite a solid-as-**** set list and Lindsey Buckingham’s awesomely uncomfortable guitargasm faces, a plodding, lackluster show that made The Spin feel, “like we were 15 again, bored and squirming in our seats.” But this time around, ringer singer Christine McVie is, following a 16-year furlough, back in the band. So maybe that’ll make all the difference. Tickets for that rock ’n’ roll celebration of social security cost $45-$175 and go on sale Oct. 27 at 10 a.m. here.

To be clear, there’s nothing wrong with still rocking into old age (case in point: Bruce Springsteen, who as of last month, is eligible for social security); but let’s put into perspective just how ****ing old these bands are.

Are government benefits only available to over-65s in the US? You don't have an unemployment benefit or a youth allowance payment?

FM77 10-11-2014 05:36 PM

I don't think this tour is going beyond June 2015.

BlueDenimLamp 10-11-2014 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FM77 (Post 1148760)
I don't think this tour is going beyond June 2015.

I think the will do a fair number of dates in UK & Aus/Nz but I think the tour will run through August or September 2015.

secret love 10-11-2014 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FM77 (Post 1148760)
I don't think this tour is going beyond June 2015.

If that's true then I expect a new studio album and a tour DVD by September 2015. That's a reasonable expectation, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Macfanforever 10-11-2014 05:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1148765)
If that's true then I expect a new studio album and a tour DVD by September 2015. That's a reasonable expectation, isn't it? :rolleyes:

If they record a new album quick like Stevie did with her 24K album.It could happen.

If Stevie is the only one that owes FM songs which is I guess is about 3 or 4 tunes and add her backup on the other tunes .I dont see what not.

They will be close together for the next 6 plus months .They could go over some tunes for the new album if they have any free time.

secret love 10-11-2014 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1148771)
If they record a new album quick like Stevie did with her 24K album.It could happen.

If Stevie is the only one that owes FM songs which is I guess is about 3 or 4 tunes and add her backup on the other tunes .I dont see what not.

They will be close together for the next 6 plus months .They could go over some tunes for the new album if they have any free time.

Forgive me - but I don't trust them to be that proactive.

michelej1 10-11-2014 09:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1148758)
Are government benefits only available to over-65s in the US? You don't have an unemployment benefit or a youth allowance payment?

We do have unemployment. You have to pay into the system first before you are laid off, to qualify for the benefit. That's the same thing with the death and disability benefits distributed through social security as well.

I'm not sure what a youth allowance payment is, so I don't know if we have the equivalent to that. But people with dependent children can get aid, food vouchers, baby formula, etc.

Michele

FM77 10-11-2014 10:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1148765)
If that's true then I expect a new studio album and a tour DVD by September 2015. That's a reasonable expectation, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Reasonable? Sure. Likely? Not so sure.

secret love 10-12-2014 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1148795)
We do have unemployment. You have to pay into the system first before you are laid off, to qualify for the benefit. That's the same thing with the death and disability benefits distributed through social security as well.

I'm not sure what a youth allowance payment is, so I don't know if we have the equivalent to that. But people with dependent children can get aid, food vouchers, baby formula, etc.

Michele

Gee, Australia's welfare system is a lot more generous than America's. You don't need to have paid tax to qualify for a benefit. To qualify for the dole ($515 per fortnight) you just need to show that you are looking for work. Youth Allowance is a payment to people aged between 16 and 25 who are either studying, training, doing an apprenticeship, looking for work or are sick. People who live with their parents are ineligible if their parents earn over a specified amount, about $100000 p.a.

TsnFan4Ever 10-12-2014 06:38 AM

My best friend's family lives in New Zealand and Australia and are shocked at how few benefits people in the U.S. receive. We are the only industrialized nation that does not have a national medical plan (people are scared to death of "socialized medicine" here so fight it, even though we pay 5x as much as everyone else in the world for way less health coverage and many people end up in bankruptcy because of the lack of health care). Also, college financial aid is difficult for most people in the middle class to qualify for (unlike most other nations) and there is virtually no "safety" net now for people who are unemployed long-term. Forget benefits that you're describing--that's "welfare," which people here abhor.

Also, unlike most other nations which provide at least four weeks of paid vacation each year, we don't get that either. People in the U.S. are lucky if they receive two weeks of paid vacation. And, for most of us, we work many more hours without additional compensation (they call it "exempt" or "salaried" status), too. I sometimes wish I had moved to Australia when I was younger. Our country really seems to be going downhill--but that's another discussion.

Wdm6789 10-12-2014 06:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TsnFan4Ever (Post 1148837)
My best friend's family lives in New Zealand and Australia and are shocked at how few benefits people in the U.S. receive. We are the only industrialized nation that does not have a national medical plan (people are scared to death of "socialized medicine" here so fight it, even though we pay 5x as much as everyone else in the world for way less health coverage and many people end up in bankruptcy because of the lack of health care). Also, college financial aid is difficult for most people in the middle class to qualify for (unlike most other nations) and there is virtually no "safety" net now for people who are unemployed long-term. Forget benefits that you're describing--that's "welfare," which people here abhor.

Also, unlike most other nations which provide at least four weeks of paid vacation each year, we don't get that either. People in the U.S. are lucky if they receive two weeks of paid vacation. And, for most of us, we work many more hours without additional compensation (they call it "exempt" or "salaried" status), too. I sometimes wish I had moved to Australia when I was younger. Our country really seems to be going downhill--but that's another discussion.


But shouldn't we have more self reliance? We should not have to depend on the government for anything.

TsnFan4Ever 10-12-2014 03:13 PM

Self-reliance is great--when there is an even playing field and there are decent jobs, opportunities for small businesses, and the economy is flourishing. Unfortunately, since so many industries have been outsources (which is great for the top 1% & large multinational corporations), most other countries provide a safety net for their citizens. In other countries, people do not worry about being homeless or needing health care because it's provided for everyone (If you pay taxes, you get something for them, instead of paying taxes and receiving very little--as most of us do now).

secret love 10-12-2014 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TsnFan4Ever (Post 1148837)
My best friend's family lives in New Zealand and Australia and are shocked at how few benefits people in the U.S. receive. We are the only industrialized nation that does not have a national medical plan (people are scared to death of "socialized medicine" here so fight it, even though we pay 5x as much as everyone else in the world for way less health coverage and many people end up in bankruptcy because of the lack of health care). Also, college financial aid is difficult for most people in the middle class to qualify for (unlike most other nations) and there is virtually no "safety" net now for people who are unemployed long-term. Forget benefits that you're describing--that's "welfare," which people here abhor.

Also, unlike most other nations which provide at least four weeks of paid vacation each year, we don't get that either. People in the U.S. are lucky if they receive two weeks of paid vacation. And, for most of us, we work many more hours without additional compensation (they call it "exempt" or "salaried" status), too. I sometimes wish I had moved to Australia when I was younger. Our country really seems to be going downhill--but that's another discussion.

Medicare in Australia allows people to receive free treatment at public hospitals. Anyone who earns above the tax free threshold (above $18000 p.a.) pays a 2% Medicare levy on their taxable income. It was 1.5% but the Gillard Labor Government increased it by 0.5% to help fund the National Disability Insurance Scheme. Many workers receive penalty rates for working weekends and public holidays or shift work: When I was 18 and working weekends washing dishes in a restaurant, I was paid $20 per hour and when I worked as a nursing assistant in a public hospital I once earned $600 for 20 hours work as I worked nights. I've heard that in America many restaurant employees don't earn above the Australian minimum wage ($16.87 per hour - although apprentices, trainees and people under 21 can legally be paid less) unless they receive tips.

As you said, all full-time workers here qualify for 4 weeks paid annual leave. I think sometimes that also comes with a 12.5% annual leave loading. Some shift workers, e.g. doctors, nurses, police qualify for 6 weeks paid annual leave to compensate them for the hassle of working irregular hours.

The college system in America is one I hope our politicians never try to emulate. Australian university and technical education (Diploma level) students can take out income-contingent loans - HECS-HELP or VET FEE-HELP loans. The government pays for your entire education upfront and you pay the loan back through the taxation system only once you start earning over $50000 p.a.

Another poster said that we shouldn't have to rely on the government for anything. I completely disagree. If that were true, why even have governments? Some people through no fault of their own, are born with chronic disease or disability. Some people are born healthy but acquire a disability later in life. The government should absolutely be supporting these people and their carers.

The fact is, most people who are successful, were genetically blessed or were born into favourable circumstances. I read an article about this -

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/no-cre...10-113qtg.html

As the writer says, think about it, is it really impressive that the upper-middle class son of a respected lawyer and business woman who was mates with the CEO of IBM founded Microsoft? The author is right - If a congenitally brain-damaged, impoverished, legless Bangladeshi had founded Microsoft, that would be impressive.

elle 10-12-2014 11:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FM77 (Post 1148760)
I don't think this tour is going beyond June 2015.

interesting.

at the m&g in NYC, Mick reportedly said in response to question about their album that they have 27 (i think?) pieces recorded already (would that be 27 whole songs? can't remember?). after follow-up question on why did they not put that out already and what/who is holding the album, he was apparently pretty specific saying something like they need to get Stevie on board and she's not there yet.

so if they are not touring beyond june 2015, not doing Glasto (what?? that makes no sense! what is wrong with this band?), not working on the album as they have too many songs already but no balls to put it out without Stevie (apparently zillions they are making on this tour are not enough?) then what are they doing beyond june 2015??

what does "going on for a long time and bear much fruit" means then?

note that when Mick announced 20+ more dates at the Today show, audience showed next to no excitement about that. must have been a lot of hardcores there.

secondhandchain 10-12-2014 11:45 PM

Stevie is not on board. No surprise since she's never mentioned new music. Seriously Stevie, you can't freaking record 3 songs with the band? The band that made you famous? Christine is back. She's all right with the tour money though. I love Stevie, but the more I hear stuff like this my love is fading. Just the way it is.

FM77 10-13-2014 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1148764)
I think the will do a fair number of dates in UK & Aus/Nz but I think the tour will run through August or September 2015.

I would be very surprised.

not_the_torment 10-13-2014 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FM77 (Post 1148966)
I would be very surprised.

Surprised if they tour Aus/NZ or if they extend the tour past June, or both?

secret love 10-13-2014 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1148965)
Stevie is not on board. No surprise since she's never mentioned new music. Seriously Stevie, you can't freaking record 3 songs with the band? The band that made you famous? Christine is back. She's all right with the tour money though. I love Stevie, but the more I hear stuff like this my love is fading. Just the way it is.

As far as I'm concerned, they released an album without Christine so they can release an album without Stevie. I'm sure many fans feel the same way. I mean, they have the balls to release Time but they don't have the balls to release songs co-written by Lindsey and Christine? What the hell?

Also, is it really true that there are 27 songs done? Just release half of them and keep the rest for an album with Stevie!

I had a dream about a new Fleetwood Mac song. Lindsey was strumming away on the guitar and Christine was singing,

"This welcome of yours
Is it all mine
Or is it all gone?"

FM77 10-13-2014 10:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by not_the_torment (Post 1148970)
Surprised if they tour Aus/NZ or if they extend the tour past June, or both?

Surprised if they extend as you say into Sept. As of today, the tour ends 6/30.

Dreamz19 10-13-2014 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TsnFan4Ever (Post 1148897)
Self-reliance is great--when there is an even playing field and there are decent jobs, opportunities for small businesses, and the economy is flourishing. Unfortunately, since so many industries have been outsources (which is great for the top 1% & large multinational corporations), most other countries provide a safety net for their citizens. In other countries, people do not worry about being homeless or needing health care because it's provided for everyone (If you pay taxes, you get something for them, instead of paying taxes and receiving very little--as most of us do now).

Quote:

Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1148920)
Medicare in Australia allows people to receive free treatment at public hospitals. Anyone who earns above the tax free threshold (above $18000 p.a.) pays a 2% Medicare levy on their taxable income. It was 1.5% but the Gillard Labor Government increased it by 0.5% to help fund the National Disability Insurance Scheme. Many workers receive penalty rates for working weekends and public holidays or shift work: When I was 18 and working weekends washing dishes in a restaurant, I was paid $20 per hour and when I worked as a nursing assistant in a public hospital I once earned $600 for 20 hours work as I worked nights. I've heard that in America many restaurant employees don't earn above the Australian minimum wage ($16.87 per hour - although apprentices, trainees and people under 21 can legally be paid less) unless they receive tips.

As you said, all full-time workers here qualify for 4 weeks paid annual leave. I think sometimes that also comes with a 12.5% annual leave loading. Some shift workers, e.g. doctors, nurses, police qualify for 6 weeks paid annual leave to compensate them for the hassle of working irregular hours.

The college system in America is one I hope our politicians never try to emulate. Australian university and technical education (Diploma level) students can take out income-contingent loans - HECS-HELP or VET FEE-HELP loans. The government pays for your entire education upfront and you pay the loan back through the taxation system only once you start earning over $50000 p.a.

Another poster said that we shouldn't have to rely on the government for anything. I completely disagree. If that were true, why even have governments? Some people through no fault of their own, are born with chronic disease or disability. Some people are born healthy but acquire a disability later in life. The government should absolutely be supporting these people and their carers.

The fact is, most people who are successful, were genetically blessed or were born into favourable circumstances. I read an article about this -

http://www.smh.com.au/comment/no-cre...10-113qtg.html

As the writer says, think about it, is it really impressive that the upper-middle class son of a respected lawyer and business woman who was mates with the CEO of IBM founded Microsoft? The author is right - If a congenitally brain-damaged, impoverished, legless Bangladeshi had founded Microsoft, that would be impressive.

My feelings exactly.

Dreamz19 10-13-2014 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by secondhandchain (Post 1148965)
Stevie is not on board. No surprise since she's never mentioned new music. Seriously Stevie, you can't freaking record 3 songs with the band? The band that made you famous? Christine is back. She's all right with the tour money though. I love Stevie, but the more I hear stuff like this my love is fading. Just the way it is.

Not making an album would be a HUGE missed opportunity. She has went on and on for years about wanting Christine back. So for her to be so hesitant now is incredibly disappointing to hear.

secret love 10-13-2014 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Dreamz19 (Post 1149052)
Not making an album would be a HUGE missed opportunity. She has went on and on for years about wanting Christine back. So for her to be so hesitant now is incredibly disappointing to hear.

You'd think that given how much Miss Nicks hates the Say You Will album, she would jump at the chance to ensure that it is not the last album her band is remembered by.

StreetAngel86 10-13-2014 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FM77 (Post 1149035)
Surprised if they extend as you say into Sept. As of today, the tour ends 6/30.

WHAT????? bloody h3ll
where is this written?

FM77 10-13-2014 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetAngel86 (Post 1149233)
WHAT????? bloody h3ll
where is this written?


Brett Tuggle posted it on his Twitter I believe. That is the last date I have seen from my sources as well.

SteveMacD 10-13-2014 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1148962)
at the m&g in NYC, Mick reportedly said in response to question about their album that they have 27 (i think?) pieces recorded already (would that be 27 whole songs? can't remember?). after follow-up question on why did they not put that out already and what/who is holding the album, he was apparently pretty specific saying something like they need to get Stevie on board and she's not there yet.

But we knew she wasn't in the studio because she was recording a solo album, and that she's apparently been trying to figure out how to approach recording her songs, all while recording a solo album, putting together a show for her photographs, and preparing for a Fleetwood Mac tour.

SteveMacD 10-13-2014 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by secret love (Post 1148971)
As far as I'm concerned, they released an album without Christine so they can release an album without Stevie. I'm sure many fans feel the same way. I mean, they have the balls to release Time but they don't have the balls to release songs co-written by Lindsey and Christine? What the hell?

I don't see what was ballsy about them making the "Time" album.

1970: Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwan
1973: Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Bob Welch, Bob Weston, Dave Walker
1975: Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks, Lindsey Buckingham
1995: Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Billy Burnette, Bekka Bramlett, Dave Mason.

Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, and Christine McVie = Fleetwood Mac. SYW was the mutant, not "Time."

secret love 10-13-2014 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1149255)
I don't see what was ballsy about them making the "Time" album.

1970: Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Jeremy Spencer, Danny Kirwan
1973: Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Bob Welch, Bob Weston, Dave Walker
1975: Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Stevie Nicks, Lindsey Buckingham
1995: Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, Christine McVie, Billy Burnette, Bekka Bramlett, Dave Mason.

Mick Fleetwood, John McVie, and Christine McVie = Fleetwood Mac. SYW was the mutant, not "Time."

I was just pointing out that the band has already released an album without Stevie. So why not do it again?


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