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Mr Scarrott 06-14-2014 02:31 PM

How many incarnations of the Mac have you seen live?
 
Just curious to see how many Ledgies there might be out there who have followed the band live since the Peter Green days. For many of us, age (I'm 46) would preclude us having seen more than four or so. Kudos to anyone who's seen them in every "era".

I've only seen the Say You Will lineup and the Rumours Five at London last year (don't give me any guff about Christine only guesting and not being officially part of the band, I'm counting it :D).

I didn't go to see the BTM band (I had only just got into the band and I was on a post-Lindsey downer with them) and the Time band never set foot in the UK , so that's it. Other than, that I saw Peter Green play once with the Splinter Group. I don't now...how dare I call myself a fan...:(

THD 06-15-2014 08:19 AM

Six ,(I think)

dino 06-16-2014 05:14 AM

None :D.
But any line-up I'd care about was gone after '74.
Probably would go see the current band if the tickets were cheap and they're not :).

THD 06-16-2014 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by dino (Post 1132372)

Probably would go see the current band if the tickets were cheap and they're not :).

I second that emoticon Dino !

chiliD 06-16-2014 11:22 AM

1a) Mick, John, Christine, Bob Welch, Doug Graves
1b) Mick, John, Christine, Bob Welch, Bobby Hunt
2) Mick, John, Christine, Lindsey, Stevie
3) Mick, John, Christine, Stevie, Rick & Billy
4) Mick, John, Billy, Dave Mason, Bekka, Steve Thoma
5) Mick, John, Lindsey, Stevie

5 (or 6, depending if you count 1b as a "2" or not)

BLY 06-16-2014 01:26 PM

1. Mick, John, Christine, Lindsey, Stevie
2.Mick, John, Christine, Stevie, Rick & Billy
3.Mick, John, Stevie, Lindsey

jbrownsjr 06-17-2014 09:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 1132382)
1a) Mick, John, Christine, Bob Welch, Doug Graves
1b) Mick, John, Christine, Bob Welch, Bobby Hunt
2) Mick, John, Christine, Lindsey, Stevie
3) Mick, John, Christine, Stevie, Rick & Billy
4) Mick, John, Billy, Dave Mason, Bekka, Steve Thoma
5) Mick, John, Lindsey, Stevie

5 (or 6, depending if you count 1b as a "2" or not)

Chili, were Bobby and Doug actual members? Because then you would have to count Ray Lindsey, back up singers, etc.

Wouter Vuijk 06-21-2014 07:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by THD (Post 1132375)
I second that emoticon Dino !

And I third it :D

chiliD 06-22-2014 07:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 1132382)
1a) Mick, John, Christine, Bob Welch, Doug Graves
1b) Mick, John, Christine, Bob Welch, Bobby Hunt
2) Mick, John, Christine, Lindsey, Stevie
3) Mick, John, Christine, Stevie, Rick & Billy
4) Mick, John, Billy, Dave Mason, Bekka, Steve Thoma
5) Mick, John, Lindsey, Stevie

5 (or 6, depending if you count 1b as a "2" or not)

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1132437)
Chili, were Bobby and Doug actual members? Because then you would have to count Ray Lindsey, back up singers, etc.

Ok, I'll give you that, but there were only 5 people on stage during 1a) & 1b), not like 10 or so like they have now. It's a little different changing 20% of the # of people on stage or 1% of the number of people on stage. Not giving Doug or Bobby any "membership" by that. Just the percentage of change in number of performers. (Steve Thoma would be the same "status" as Graves & Hunt, as well...but they didn't change the personnel on stage during the '94/95 tour, like they did over the course of just a couple of months of touring in '74.

dino 06-23-2014 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Wouter Vuijk (Post 1132752)
And I third it :D

Heh heh...
I did see Splinter Group. It wasn't perfect, but I got to see Greeny play The Stumble.

nicepace 06-23-2014 09:19 PM

I think seeing Mick, John, Christine, Lindsey, and Stevie is a far different concert experience than seeing Mick, John, Christine, Lindsey, and Stevie with a gaggle of backing musicians and singers.

Therefore I'm considering those two different "incarnations" (maybe "configuration" is a better word), and I have seen them both.

I have also seen the configuration of Mick, John, Christine, Billy, Rick, and Stevie with various backing singers and musicians.

The only solo Mac I have seen have been Peter Green with Splinter Group, Christine, and Bob Welch. I was all set to go see Jeremy when he was scheduled to tour a few months ago, but those shows were cancelled.

jbrownsjr 06-24-2014 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 1132904)
Ok, I'll give you that, but there were only 5 people on stage during 1a) & 1b), not like 10 or so like they have now. It's a little different changing 20% of the # of people on stage or 1% of the number of people on stage. Not giving Doug or Bobby any "membership" by that. Just the percentage of change in number of performers. (Steve Thoma would be the same "status" as Graves & Hunt, as well...but they didn't change the personnel on stage during the '94/95 tour, like they did over the course of just a couple of months of touring in '74.

I was really asking because I came in around 1974.. (age 7).. but yeah I'll take a raw arrangement any day of the week. Just look how much better Mirage Live is compared to LIB or The Dance... It's not even funny..... is it? :o

HomerMcvie 06-24-2014 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 1133002)
I was really asking because I came in around 1974.. (age 7).. but yeah I'll take a raw arrangement any day of the week. Just look how much better Mirage Live is compared to LIB or The Dance... It's not even funny..... is it? :o

Mirage was the last "real" concert they did.

At Tango, I had security scolding me for rubbernecking, because I was able to see this huge collection of offstage keyboards(pre-show), obviously being played by someone else. The orchestra seed was planted!:(

jbrownsjr 06-24-2014 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1133006)
Mirage was the last "real" concert they did.

At Tango, I had security scolding me for rubbernecking, because I was able to see this huge collection of offstage keyboards(pre-show), obviously being played by someone else. The orchestra seed was planted!:(

Tons of keyboards, tons of guitars, tons of drums..

I hope Christine occupies herself a little more. I'd love for her to bring back the stacks or foot pedals and do it all herself.

nicepace 06-25-2014 08:57 AM

Quote:

I hope Christine occupies herself a little more. I'd love for her to bring back the stacks or foot pedals and do it all herself.
I never did believe in miracles, but I've a feeling it's time to try.

PenguinHead 07-02-2014 04:20 PM

1. Mick-John-Christine-Stevie-Lindsey (Mirage/The Dance/pending tour!)
2. Mick-John-Christine-Stevie-Rick-Billy(Behind the Mask)
3. Mick-John-Beka-Dave-Billy (Time)
4. Mick-John-Stevie-Lindsey(Say You Will/recent tour)

Two Dance shows (Boston/Portland)
Two Behind the Mask shows (Boston/Portland)
Two Say You Will shows (Boston/Portland)

I regret, inexplicably, not seeing their Tango tour, and to a lesser extent, the the non-album tour, prior to the most recent one. I didn't start attending concerts until 1980, so I missed the Tusk tour, and of course, all shows prior to that; I was just a little child (of mine).

The Mirage show was/is still memorable. It was my first Fleetwood Mac show, and it was just overwhelmingly fantastic. So glad I got to see them in a purer form, before they began glutting their stage with Stevie's background singers and numerous musicians. That seems to be somewhat of a progressive norm for older bands.

On their last tour, I was glad to see that an effort was made to keep the support players less visible. That doesn't bother me anymore. Tours have become more akin to corporations, with big brand sponsors,generating huge profits. Some music "fans" began having specific expectations as ticket prices went through the the roof. So shows became less loose and paced and polished, akin toe a Vegas show in order to placate the sponsors and squeeze as much revenue as possible.

I don't blame the bands. They are just trying to make a living and keeping up with the current state of the industry and fill seats. Also, I suppose it's much more expensive to be tour these days.....blah, blah, blah...time to turn off my stream of thoughts now.

But one more note: Ticket prices for the Mirage and Rock a Little shows I saw were less than $30! Later shows I saw in the 1990's were no more than $60. Food for thought.

He's So Unusual 07-05-2014 12:40 PM

I've only seen the four piece line-up twice (Mick, John, Lindsey and Stevie). I wasn't alive when the Peter Green and Bob Welch line-up toured, and I was too young to attend any of the 1980s and 1990s tours. :(


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