Put yourself in Lindsey Buckingham's shoes and write a setlist.
 

Hi Ledgies!
Before anyone asks no I am not in anyway connected to the band. Just a disclaimer there: I am a simple person and music fan like HelloMonster and don't want my comments being splashed across http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com
without my permission.


Rather than get angry at Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, I thought what I would do is...do something a little more constructive. It's not as constructive as working on my university Italian and Law assignments. Still, it's a step up the procrastination ladder from "complaining".;)

I'm aiming to make my thread unique to the other setlist threads on this premise: put yourself in Lindsey Buckingham's shoes. Show some empathy! You are the amazing, talented, maybe even handsome...Mr Buckingham. You can play The Ledge on guitar without using a plectrum or getting confused because it doesn't match the rules you learnt in high school. You are currently somewhere in Los Angeles CA working in a recording studio, or maybe you're just at home with the family. I don't know.

Christine McVie has written some very cool songs lately - Too Far Gone is your favourite. It's "danceable"...reminds you of that time when you and Stevie were still together in the seventies. Good times.:laugh:

Everyone wants a piece of you...and you're old. None of these people seem to remember how old you are: you're 64, 65 soon. Stevie Nicks is somewhere in Nashville with this odd unshaven character whose music you never really liked very much. Hmmm what's Annie Lennox doing these days?

John McVie and Mick Fleetwood have been playing there arses off, apparently, you think that's what you said last year...or the year before. You're a little forgetful at 64. Just a little. Not so bad yet that you put toasts in the DVD player!:angel:

The brief: write the Fleetwood Mac Live 2014 Tour setlist, taking into account the above points whilst still satisfying the majority of your fan base. Feel free to put a few surprises in around the edges but be sure to remember what an "unhappy tour" Say You Will was in 2003-2004. That can't happen again because someone's in your ear saying make sure we don't stuff it up! Stevie Nicks and Christine McVie have left the job of writing the setlist to you but you know there are some songs that they would absolutely love to sing on stage. These must be included as well as the ines that pander to the fans. Now - go!

I think it would work better if I post what I came up with after someone else starts.

Ta, hope you guys have some strong opinions!

secret love.

Lindsey Buckingham, 2013: "I'm someone who doesn't practice age" (http://www.mensjournal.com/magazine/...d-mac-20130320)

i'm confused about your comment about www.fleetwoodmacnews.com ? that site seems to be very much on the up-and-up in what they do, in my experience.

"On With The Show" Tour 2014

1. Second Hand News
2. The Chain
3. Dreams
4. Hold Me
5. Oh Well
6. Too Far Gone (the "danceable" new Christine song)
7. Rhiannon
8. Tusk
9. Angel
10. You Make Loving Fun
11. Big Love
12. Landslide
13. Never Going Back Again
14. Over My Head
15. Gypsy
16. Say You Love Me
17. On With The Show (or other new Lindsey song)
18. Gold Dust Woman
19. I'm So Afraid
20. Little Lies or Everywhere
21. Stand Back
22. Go Your Own Way
Encore 1:
23. World Turning + Mick drum solo
24. Don't Stop
Encore 2:
25. Silver Springs
26. Songbird

These seems like a very possible set list. It's mostly hits, a couple lesser played tunes and a couple new ones. I think that's a reasonable expectation.

The Dance tour had 26 songs, so I assume this tour will, too. When I counted up their "must do" songs, I came up with 21. Which leaves room for 5 surprise songs. So I put in 2 new songs and 3 lesser-performed ones. I think it's pretty close to what they'll actually do, give or take a song. :nod:

Disclaimer to Elle: contains irony and sarcasm in large doses. If you're American try not to think too hard about taking them.

To the person I quoted. You're probably right. I'm hoping this tour that there might be a few more surprises than the usual 5-7
Surprises could include things like mini-sets, acoustic sets, banjos etc. I reckon :p Maybe a vibraphone for Christine (or Stevie to play + sing Secret Love on :D)

Silly jokes aside this is what I came up with trying hard to put aside my biases but maybe not hard enough. Honest. Fingers crossed

Fleetwood Mac: On with the Show 2014 Tour
1. The Chain
2. You Make Loving Fun
3. Dreams
4. Too Far Gone
5. I Don't Want to Know
6. How I Feel
7. Little Lies
8. Seven Wonders
9. Big Love band version
10. You and I, part
11. You and I, part II
12. Juliet/Book of Miracles
13. Landslide
14. Steal Your Heart Away (My personal bias: Wanted to put Behind the Mask here but come on pigs don't fly)
15. Bleed to Love Her
16. Destiny Rules
17. Rhiannon (Now that Christine has had her break singing lead...)
18. Don't Stop
19. Tusk (Lindsey's bias: Let's subvert fans' expectations and put the encore maybe after song 25. That reinforces my faith in cycles.;))
20. The Ledge
21. Think About Me
22. Sara
23. Beautiful Child
[Lindsey: ****! What's the name of that record where Mick's posing with Stevie? I forgot all about it ...oh no...for Americans playing at home - this is my attempt at some ironic humour It's okay we will have some Rumours songs as encores. Oh that song...that one where The Woman sings "you could be my silver springs". It's worth having in the set just to get her to look at me with love...and lovely anger.]
24. Honey Hi
25. Silver Springs
Encore 1:
26. Miss Fantasy (hey may as well chuck in my favourite song ever from 2013 - no one will notice because they're already in the parking lot driving the cars away or they've stopped reading by now. That's :cool:
27. It Takes Time
or was it called Songbird? I'm a legend pianist in my own mind. Better make it Songbird.
28. On With the Show.

Thanks for reading

Elle is pretty. I've seen her pic. :)

Think About Me
What Makes You Think You're The One
Angel
Love In Store
Destiny Rules
Over My Head
Sad Angel
Everybody Finds Out
Blue Letter
Don't Stop
Bleed To Love Her
Why
Landslide
Walk A Thin Line
Hold Me
Thrown Down
Gold Dust Woman
Don't Let Me Down Again
Isn't It Midnight
Frozen Love
Say You Love Me
Encore:
I Know I'm Not Wrong
Sara
World Turning ( with a punchy threeminute drumsolo - no vocals, drums-)
Brown Eyes
Go Your Own Way
2nd encore
Songbird.

Well it looks like everyone will have to leave room in the set list for a few new Stevie solo songs on this tour...

Considering the 2009 tour had zero Say You Will songs and the 2013 tour had 1, I doubt that, with Christine returning, they'll include multiple selections from that album which she was not a part of and even less so 3 such songs that they've never played (except Destiny Rules once or twice or however many shows they did).

I'd better be nicer to her then. :angel:

EDIT: I need to learn how to do Multi-Quotes again. Long time since I've used that function in any online forum.

Quoting Mike Vielhaber: Considering the 2009 tour had zero Say You Will songs and the 2013 tour had 1, I doubt that, with Christine returning, they'll include multiple selections from that album which she was not a part of and even less so 3 such songs that they've never played (except Destiny Rules once or twice or however many shows they did).
That's a great point. I wrote my setlist when I was quite ehm excited about Fleetwood Mac's new studio album and Stevie confirming her involvement (last night).

Totally agree that there would not be more than 1-2 Say You Will songs. 3-4 seems a stretch

Say You Love Me
The Chain
Not Make Believe
Isn't it Midnight
Book of Love
Rhiannon
Tusk
Over and Over
Seven Wonders
Big Love
Landslide
Never Forget
Running Through the Garden
Steal Your Heart Away
Blue Letter
Gold Dust Woman
Everywhere
You Make Loving Fun
Twist of Fate
Stand Back
Go Your Own Way
Sisters of the Moon
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

:laugh: no use to try and catch up, that was just jbrownsjr's very nice attempt to diffuse some panties-in-a-twist posts that eventually got deleted while you were sleeping... but is very much out of context now. ;)

Hey, I wrote my LB- version of the setlist. With two B/N songs and also a slug of Tusksongs. Never going to happen, but we can all carve the stone setlist it will be. say you love me will be the opener, and then chain, dreams, blablablabla

I have doubts that Say You Love Me will be the opener. Yes, it was done a long time ago, but I do not think a Christine song will start the concert. It will be Second Hand News again or The Chain. I think Tusk would be an awesome opener with the drum instrumental beginning, if they are feeling inspired.

With Christine Mcvie back I think SYLM will be the opener. They want to herald her return so it would make sense that they open with something of hers and since they have opened with SYLM before it only seems fitting.

I'll show me your profile picture if you show me yours. :D

I joke!


I agree with "Nicks Fan" that Say You Love Me would make a very nice opener. It is one of the very old songs from the seventies that will definitely be in the set. Not as wonderful as 1973's Believe Me by C. McVie but still an amazing song that I hope to hear live one day. :)

To herald Chris's return though, the band could quite definitely choose a different song to SYLM. Not Believe Me obviously because it pre-date Buckingham Nicks/Rumours era. Maybe ...maybe...a Tango song dare I say it? Everywhere? Little Lies even? Dare to dream hey!

Let's just slightly undercut our dreams with some realism though:

If they are feeling inspired anything over than The Chain would be amazing :sorry:

If I was Lindsey, muahahahaaa... :D

The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Gold Dust Woman
Oh Well
Sara
Say You Love Me
Gypsy
Big Love
Go Insane
Landslide
Never Going Back Again
You Make Loving Fun
Rhiannon
Hold Me
(new song)
Seeds We Sow
Tusk
World Turning
Go Your Own Way
Don't Stop
I'm So Afraid
Say Goodbye

Encore:
Monday Morning
(new song)
Songbird

I always thought "Tusk" would be great to put in the very second slot of the set list. We're all used to the openers at this point. "Tusk" is so wild and crazy on stage, it would be neat to see it very early in the set! Maybe replace "Dreams" forever. :D

They will surely be doing 3 high energy songs in a row this tour, as they head towards the end of the show.

I wonder what they will be this time. Tusk, Stand Back and Go Your Own Way; IKINW, Stand Back and GYOW; Tusk, GYOW and Don't Stop ... or some other combo of three?

Actually, this time they should do three from different songwriters, so Tusk, Stand Back and Don't Stop, back to back.

Michele

Probably You Make Loving Fun/Stand Back/Go Your Own Way if they go that route, similar to the '87-'90 tours (SB came first then YMLF). Silver Springs/Tusk/GYOW is how they ended the main part of the Dance shows.

To be fair, they've only opened with The Chain on two tours...The Dance and Say You Will. Oh, maybe the 1994 shows as well...

Tusk or Tango in the Night are great opening song suggestions!

Love in Store
The Chain
Dreams
Everywhere
Rhiannon
Not That Funny
Tusk
Brown Eyes
Sisters of the Moon
Big Love
Landslide
Say You Love Me
Gypsy
Never Going Back Again
Gold Dust Woman
You Make Loving Fun
I'm So Afraid
Seven Wonders
Go Your Own Way
Don't Stop
Silver Springs
Songbird

Even Lindsey wouldn't be able to make the last TEN songs in the set be none of them by Stevie.

They have opened with the Chain on the 90,94,97 and 03 tours. On the 90 tour they did In The Back of My Mind bit during the guitar solo they segued into the Chain without a break in the songs.

Oh really you're right!! Haha believe me that I didn't see that! Well, I suppose Say Goodbye and the new song can have Stevie on it. I put myself on Lindsey's shoes to make a setlist thinking about Chris' return. Stevie has more songs on the first half of the set!!
Regards and thanks!
Mark.

Yeah, but still 6 songs out of 26 isn't going to cut it for Stevie. She would need 8 or 9, given 26 total songs, to get about a third of the set which is likely what she'll get.

Not trying to be a douche at all, but can you explain how this set list thread is at all unique.

1 Second
2 Chain
3 Dreams
4 Everywhere
5 Rhiannon
6 Over my Head
7 Never Goin Back
8 Landslide
9 Gypsy
10 Big Love
11 Tusk
12 What Makes You Think You're the One
13 Sara
14 new song (Stevie or FM)
15 Say You Love Me
16 Hold Me
17 Seven Wonders
18 Little Lies
19 Gold Dust
20 You Make Lovin Fun
21 So Afraid
22 GYOW
23 Don't Stop
24 Songbird

You're right too! Maybe I didn't put enough songs. Anyway, I think that with the Chris return, Stand Back would be one of the deleted songs (yes, I know Stevie performed it in the 88-90 tours), more if we're thinking in new songs, and the return of Chris' ones!
We can count: Dreams, GDW, Rhiannon, Landslide, Gypsy, Sara...I forgot Silver Springs!!!! (ouch!), but then...well, we have duets with Lindsey! NGBA, Say Goodbye, maybe Crystal and a new song!
Regards.

If you read the opening post by me, I offered how the thread is unique. Make the setlist from Lindsey Buckingham's perspective. You have to pretend you are Lindsey in this thread (if you play the game by the rules I set out lol!) :shrug:

Thought it was quite self-explanatory. Yes, we know that Lindsey works out most of the setlists in real life. So the whole idea of this thread is? Be realistic, take your biases out of it and try to show some empathy as to what it would be like to be Lindsey Buckingham.

Have a bit of fun with it for goodness' sake! :blob2: