"When I See You Again"
 

This song is underrated! I think Lindsey's part at the end really makes the song.

Yes, Lindsey's vocal proves there is a good sing hiding in WISYA. I love his part.

However, the moment Stevie starts wheezing out "WHASSAMATTAHBAYBEHHHHH!?" I just really can't cope. I need to pretend Lindsey sings the entire thing. Her worst vocal ever.

If this was introduced into a live set, either with Stevie on lead or as a true duet with Lindsey, I'd probably enjoy it very much.

Isn't this the song Stevie tricked him into singing on and after his vocal was finished she snuck back in the studio and removed all the vocals on the end of the song but his...

Lindsey makes this song. Otherwise, it's bland.

I am in the minority, but I love this song and I like Welcome to the Room Sara. I actually prefer both over Seven Wonders.

I actually love the song. I like her raspy voice on it. It gives me chills. I love Lindsey singing on it at the end too. Welcome to the room Sara aint a bad song either.

This song is the ultimate Garbage Stevie Song.

Never deserved a demo. Shouldn't have been on an album.

It will forever be grist for all those who think she is a terrible songwriter. It was her at her worst vocally and as a writer. The Bottom Of The Barrel.

I find WTTRS perfectly likeable. I think it'd get a lot less flack if it had been a filler song on TOSOTM. On TITN, as one of only two new Stevie-penned songs and the first we'd heard from her in 3 years, it's a pretty sorry choice, though.

I love this song.

Loved this song at first listen. It is the unbelievably raw emotion that works .... the broken voice and the fragments of images and meanings in the lyrics. Stevie sounds drained and exhausted and worn out from crying, and uttering the last bits and pieces of feeling that she can. To me it is a weird masterpiece from start to finish. But I am always attracted first to slow, maudlin, weepy, incoherent Stevie.

I've heard your take on this song before, and I love it. I wish I shared it. I get none of the emotion from this song. It just sounds to me like she wasn't really sure how to sing a song of this nature at that point in her "voice changing" (for lack of a better term). There are many occasions where she emotes a lyric beautifully and I am totally with her on it, even if it isn't technically perfect. This song is no such occasion, for me.

She dropped the ball on tango in the night and she knows it. Christine songs and Lindsay songs are stellar and hers are by far the weakest. After Rumours, Tango in the Night is Fleetwood Mac's most popular album worldwide.

I will say that her vocals on the album were stellar, especially for Seven Wonders. But the two songs she wrote for the album were the pooh. That is permanent. No matter how many excuses she gives that album will live on with her being the weakest writer on it by far.

yes. POOH. Or some other word that means pooh, only meaner.

Seven Wonders was not even written by Stevie.

I guess we can give her a break though. If she had stayed on the coke she would be dead going on 25 years now.

I didn't say Seven Wonders was but her vocal on that song is terrific.

Sad but true. Usually when an artist underperforms, that work fades into obscurity relatively quickly. But with TITN some of the worst work in her career is stuck on a widely popular and celebrated album. So many are exposed to it who are unlikely to be very forgiving. And on a repeat basis. Eesh.

In fairness, there's other schlock on that album which takes the heat off Stevie a bit. Unlike Rumours, Tango has a number of weak songs. Almost half the album actually isn't really particularly good.

I love Lindsey and Christine's songs. Family Man is a little schlocky and so is You and I, but their work is stellar.

I feel the same way. I've professed my love for "When I See You Again" many times here in the past. The lyrics and Stevie's vocal convey such despondency and helplessness -- it's heartbreakingly beautiful.

It's never going to be everyone's favorite, and I completely understand why, but I'm so happy it exists. I also think it gives 'Tango' an emotional gravitas that it otherwise lacks.

Yeah, it is the Stevie that you either get or not. Not everybody's taste. Frankly, I wish she had done more like WISYA. It is, to tell the truth, what brought me back to Stevie after a bit of a break when her solo work was just not working for me.

I'll acknowledge that the lyrics are weak, but the melody is just beautiful. The melody is always my favorite part of any song.

Me, too. Both are seriously intense.

No. No. No. No. And no.

When I see You again is by far her worst Fleetwood Mac performance and should not have made it to the album, it baffles my brain when I hear the talk of leaving Silver Springs off Rumours but allowing something like this to make it to print makes no sense in that context. That said, when I think of the atmosphere and what she was trying to write, I can see potential in the concept but at the time, she could neither write, nor sing to the standard the song would have called for. Had she drawn on some of the lyrics from the chain demo, maybe it could've worked somehow.

At 17, I absolutely hated this song when it was released and continued to hate it for almost 30 years. At 45, and for reasons I am not sure yet, I love this song now.

Her vocal on this song is excellent, but this song is bland and boring and never belonged on a Fleetwood Mac. As far as it being her worst song, she recorded more bad songs like Freedom, Paper Doll, No Questions Asked and The Second Time.

No Questons Asked and Paper Doll were on Best of Fleetwood Mac albums and that is a tragedy. However, she also put the putrid, god-awful Desert Angel and Loves a Hard Game to Play on a Best of Stevie Nicks album.

Sometimes she is not dealing with a full deck. Best of albums are important because they sale for the long run and she should not put bad songs on them.

Add Mystified and the two Nicks songs to the list and you have my bad-almost-half-of-Tango down!

Haha. I genuinely enjoy every single song you named. Except for Loves a Hard Game to Play, of course. But I don't deny Stevie isn't always the best judge of her own content. Affairs of the Heart is the only 90s-Mac-Stevie song that I really don't like.

One set of doors is the colour of hunnneyyyyyyyyy... Oh dear God it'll be in my head all night now.

If from Tango through BTM, it is a world where Mystified, No Questions Asked, and The Second Time are on a bad song list ahead of Freedom, Affairs of the Heart, Family Man, You and I, Save Me.... down is up and night is day. I guess I just do not belong. Those are 3 of my all time favourite songs.

Can they add touched by an angel to this list?

Inspiration and Docklands are good songs. However Stevie's vocal on Docklands is god awful. She hacks the song. Inspiration was one of the only few real songs from Street Angel but she didn't put it on the album because she didn't write it.

On the other hand, Mirror Mirror is not a good song but her vocal is excellent. It is one of the best vocals of her career.

I probably add Can't Fix This to the collection due to the overdrivin Rock guitar in it which ruined it for my taste.The lyrics are great .Sorry guys.I just want to hear Stevie's voice not the noise.

most of those on the list are my faves.

I was incredibly moved when I first heard "When I See You Again" back in time, when TITN was released, knowing Stevie had just pulled herself up, basically from hell, while recording and touring behind "Rock A Little" - in that context, at that time, the song and Stevie's delivery were touching. Yes, it's far from my favorite Stevie composition, but it's not dreck! This song was brave, in that it is probably the rawest thing Stevie ever recorded within Fleetwood Mac and gives TITN much needed emotional sobriety amongt all the 80s fairlight production frivolity. Like a slow funeral procession, this song crawls along befitting a song about reflection and regrets. Stevie vocal on this also reminds me of her stunning delivery on her great RAL outtake "She Loves Him Still." Heartbreaking.

I agree that the emotion on WISYA is compelling. The vocal... not her worst. But the lyrics! How many times can you say the same word over and over in a row?

And the dream says I want you
And the dream is gone
So she stays up nights on end
Well at least there is a dream left

WTF? Lazy. Drug-induced. Whichever. Bad. And yes, I *would* say that to Bob Dylan. Love her to death, but Lindsey's playing and vocal at the end salvage this. Good idea but it took a wrong turn somewhere and never found its way back. :cool:

WISYA, Somebody Stand By Me, and possible Jane are my only disagreements with this list. I would put Rooms on Fire, Bella Donna, and Enchanted there instead.

.... Oh girl.









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It's all right baby, she is Doing the Best that she Can…. another example of redundancy. Yuck!

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and then

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Street Angel? I could never put that on a 'worst of' CD, or Love Is Like A River, but the rest are obvious choices, even though I do rather like When I See You Again. I'd probably replace those three tracks with Soldier's Angel, Ghosts Are Gone and I Still Miss Someone.

How can anyone forget her horrible version of I Still Miss Someone? That may be her poorest performance ever. GROSS!

One More Big Time Rock and Roll Star.

Now, I love that one.

Michele

Oh, I disagree!:eek:

I think the vocal is a bit overdone but I think that's a really moving song about some of the rough stuff she went through.
The line "In my way/disaster was the only thing/that I could depend on" is just amazing. :shrug:

I love all of Stevie's rehab songs on Tango. I think all three of them connect to Betty Ford in some way. And I do firmly believe she is singing "Sara" (referring to her rehab check-in name), not "Tara" or "Aira" :laugh: during the musical breaks of "Seven Wonders."