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Deeshere 12-08-2013 11:06 AM

Stevie Nicks Video Access Hollywood Interview
 
I found this video on Fleetwood Mac News. It has a wealth of Stevie Nicks information in it including (a Beatles story, Reese Witherspoon, her up coming part on AHS) and her discussing if she wants Christine M
McVie back or or not which starts at 12.51

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What is interesting to me, is Christine seems to think she has to be ASKED to come back into the band, but Stevie says NO she DOES NOT. She's part of the Mac in Fleetwood Mac so she can come back if she wants.

Which means if Christine just wants to show up to the tour rehearsals and say OK guys I'm back, I'm touring and I'm willing to stick this out for as long as I have too; everyone in the band would say OK there's the keyboard lets get going.

But my next question is what would happen to Brett if Christine came back??

As far as I have heard everyone in the band loves Brett and if Christine comes back they will have to find another place for him (because I'm sure they won't just let him go) and he might not be too happy about that.

Brett seems like a happy easy going guy but he may not be too happy being relegated to backup keyboards or guitar. That could also explain why (IMO) Lindsey has not seem to psyched about Christine coming back in the past. Lindsey's very loyal to friends and family (we all know he and Brett are very close) and if he thinks Christine coming back is going to upset Brett or cause a problem with Brett's position I can see him not being too happy about the change, but like Stevie said Christine is part of the MAC in Fleetwood Mac, so I don't think Lindsey will ultimately stop her if it's what she really wants.

Lastly, It seems that Lindsey and (now) Stevie fear that halfway though a tour Christine might quit again (maybe I'm mistaken but wasn't there talk of The Dance Tour, doing more shows in 1998, but then Christine quit and all that stopped) and that would defiantly be a problem, because even if the band can revamps the songs, the lighting, the stage production etc...and continue on without her the fans that don't get to see her with the band are gonna be pis**d off and the rest of the band members would have to deal with that.

Ulpian 12-08-2013 11:17 AM

Interesting.

I think you're right that there's a concern that Christine would quit again, not remembering how gruelling a tour can be, particularly fifteen years after she last did it. I would understand all of the others worrying about that: The Dance was, at some stage, intended to be a world tour, but they hadn't signed up for that yet. When it came time to talk dates and numbers, Christine honoured the initial 40-date contract, but chose not to extend it beyond that. However, she would not have said what she said to The Guardian journalist if she hadn't thought about that: she isn't daft. She's been in therapy, she's travelled with them, she is back to performing on stage, and she knows what it entails.

As to Brett, well, there would be a role for him, but of course it wouldn't be as prominent. I think he's respectful and smart enough to realise that if the creator of the keyboard parts he is playing wants to return to her role, then he should step aside. In any case, there may very well be an enhanced role for him, given that Christine may need help on her return, having not played for so long, and Brett could fill some of the spaces for her. Also he could still do singing and guitar; I get the impression he loves being part of the band, whatever part that might be, and wouldn't mind returning to the role he performed on The Dance.

It's interesting that you say Lindsey is loyal. That may be so, though I think Richard Dashut - on recent comments from various sources - might disagree.

louielouie2000 12-08-2013 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Deeshere (Post 1113458)
But my next question is what would happen to Brett if Christine came back??

Same thing that happened to Jana Anderson when Lori Nicks came back: Brett will be shown the door. Or to be more accurate, he just won't be called.

BlueDenimLamp 12-08-2013 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 1113460)
Interesting.

I think you're right that there's a concern that Christine would quit again, not remembering how gruelling a tour can be, particularly fifteen years after she last did it. I would understand all of the others worrying about that: The Dance was, at some stage, intended to be a world tour, but they hadn't signed up for that yet. When it came time to talk dates and numbers, Christine honoured the initial 40-date contract, but chose not to extend it beyond that.

If the band is really worried about Christine changing her mind and quitting before the next album and or tour are completed they can always put it in the contract...Think of it as a "Rock and Roll" pre-nup...

Deeshere 12-08-2013 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1113463)
Same thing that happened to Jana Anderson when Lori Nicks came back: Brett will be shown the door. Or to be more accurate, he just won't be called.

You really think they wouldn't call him back? I thought they would just have him move positions. In that case I can definitely see why Lindsey could have a problem with Christine coming back. 1) Brett is his buddy and I'm sure he's loyal to Brett. Also 2) If they drop Brett so Christine can come back and then halfway through the tour Chris decides it's too much and she leaves again they are scre**d. Because I doubt Brett would come back and save them and then they would be stuck with trying to find a new keyboard player.

I knew Jana never came back after the SYW tour, but I always thought she was suppose to just be temporary, not that they never called her back. I like Lori, but that's kinda cold they could have kept her and had 3 back up singers instead of 2.

Just so everyone knows I posted this video separate from Michele' s Billboard thread because there's a lot more in the video than Stevie talking about Christine. But since all the talk is about Christine the I guess we should merge the threads.
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michelej1 12-08-2013 04:18 PM

I think Brett still has plenty to do with Christine there. He was even playing on Don't Stop in London when she appeared. His saving grace is that he plays more than keyboards. Christine has a lot of songs that can use his layering on both guitar and vocals.

Michele

michelej1 12-08-2013 04:36 PM

Brett was on The Dance tour and here is a picture of him with Christine there. I imagine his role now would be like it was on The Dance tour.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps6a2449e1.jpg

Etisl 12-08-2013 04:45 PM

Christine comments
 
At first view I thought.... "Wow, Stevie sounds like she really doesn't want Christine in the band." I kind of thought her body language and voice did not lean on the positive side.....

but, now I look at it...and I think it is Stevie kind of saying.... "I would love for her to come back, but we have begged for years....and I just don't want to get my hopes up.....so I won't be disappointed." But, I know she must really want her to come back....

I know, if she came back. This would be massively huge for Fleetwood Mac.....like a huge massive tour production..... I sure would love to see those five together next year. It would TOTALLY make 2014. ;););););)

Macfanforever 12-08-2013 04:51 PM

I dont see why not Brett can play on the side of Christine like some bands have two drummers,guitarists and keyboard players and so on.

I guess that the way it is.Music biz a place of business .Its a job .I've seen it happen everywhere.

If they dont need you.They will send you out the door with a pink slip.

I hope Brett stays.

Macfanforever 12-08-2013 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Etisl (Post 1113489)
At first view I thought.... "Wow, Stevie sounds like she really doesn't want Christine in the band." I kind of thought her body language and voice did not lean on the positive side.....

but, now I look at it...and I think it is Stevie kind of saying.... "I would love for her to come back, but we have begged for years....and I just don't want to get my hopes up.....so I won't be disappointed." But, I know she must really want her to come back....

I know, if she came back. This would be massively huge for Fleetwood Mac.....like a huge massive tour production..... I sure would love to see those five together next year. It would TOTALLY make 2014. ;););););)

Also the tix will sell out very fast if Christine comes back with FM.

vivfox 12-08-2013 04:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeshere (Post 1113478)
You really think they wouldn't call him back? 2) If they drop Brett so Christine can come back and then halfway through the tour Chris decides it's too much and she leaves again they are scre**d. Because I doubt Brett would come back and save them and then they would be stuck with trying to find a new keyboard player.

They could easily screw him over and if they needed him in a clinch he'd be back with them so fast you wouldn't even be able to say boo. What better gig could he get than that of with Fleetwood Mac?

BlueDenimLamp 12-08-2013 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeshere (Post 1113478)
You really think they wouldn't call him back? I thought they would just have him move positions. In that case I can definitely see why Lindsey could have a problem with Christine coming back. 1) Brett is his buddy and I'm sure he's loyal to Brett. Also 2) If they drop Brett so Christine can come back and then halfway through the tour Chris decides it's too much and she leaves again they are scre**d. Because I doubt Brett would come back and save them and then they would be stuck with trying to find a new keyboard player.

If they had to they could ask Ricky Peterson from Stevie's band...

Deeshere 12-08-2013 05:20 PM

I think it's interesting when Stevie talks about a future Fleetwood Mac movie. She says the movie should start the week before she and Lindsey joined Fleetwood Mac, but shouldn't there be a little more back story than that, like Chris joining the band and Stevie and Lindsey marketing the buckingham nicks album that caused Mick to call Lindsey and asked him to join the band?

Actually Fleetwood Mac the band has so many unique stories that they could do a trilogy. First movie would be the beginning of FM before Stevie and Lindsey join 2nd movie would be when Stevie and Lindsey join up to The Dance when Christine leaves and the third would be FM beginning with SYW to whenever. They may even need to do a fourth movie like twilight did to fit it all in.

BlueDenimLamp 12-08-2013 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Etisl (Post 1113489)
I know, if she came back. This would be massively huge for Fleetwood Mac.....like a huge massive tour production.....

Exactly...I have a feeling that FM's next tour will be quite extensive...Even more so if Christine returns...With John's health scare and Christine's return and knowing this could be the last time "the 5" are together you can bet they will tour for all they're worth...

Deeshere 12-08-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1113486)
Brett was on The Dance tour and here is a picture of him with Christine there. I imagine his role now would be like it was on The Dance tour.

http://i300.photobucket.com/albums/n...ps6a2449e1.jpg

Well then I don't see any reason Brett and Chris couldn't be in the band together. Brett would just move to the . Position he was at during the dance.

Deeshere 12-08-2013 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1113494)
If they had to they could ask Ricky Peterson from Stevie's band...

That's a good idea. I hadn't thought of him before. He is a good keyboard player.

michelej1 12-08-2013 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeshere (Post 1113497)
Well then I don't see any reason Brett and Chris couldn't be in the band together. Brett would just move to the . Position he was at during the dance.

We don't know if that role would include a pay cut or not, but luckily for him, he's kind of a jack of all trades.

Michele

Deeshere 12-08-2013 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by BlueDenimLamp (Post 1113466)
If the band is really worried about Christine changing her mind and quitting before the next album and or tour are completed they can always put it in the contract...Think of it as a "Rock and Roll" pre-nup...

They could do that and I think if Christine rejoins certain members of the band may insist on it, but really if one member of the band decides it's too much for them keep touring and is unhappy I don't think anyone in the band would want to force them to stay and be miserable.

All of this makes me think that if Christine had not quit the band in early 1998 that they would have kept on touring in 1998 and I have seen many people post that they thought The Dance Tour was the best FM tour they've seen so far. So sad....

Deeshere 12-08-2013 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1113499)
We don't know if that role would include a pay cut or not, but luckily for him, he's kind of a jack of all trades.

Michele

Well that would be a slap in the face. Your demoted and your pays cut just because one of the original band members is sick of her self enforced exile (I'm not being mean just looking at it from Brett' s posssible point of view) and wants to come back. I would be ticked off if it were me. However I doubt they would cut his pay too, that would be too much for him too have to take especially since he's done nothing wrong.

Ulpian 12-08-2013 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeshere (Post 1113502)
Well that would be a slap in the face. Your demoted and your pays cut just because one of the original band members is sick of her self enforced exile (I'm not being mean just looking at it from Brett' s posssible point of view) and wants to come back. I would be ticked off if it were me. However I doubt they would cut his pay too, that would be too much for him too have to take especially since he's done nothing wrong.

He's a journeyman musician; he doesn't, I don't think, have particular job security in any part of his work. So 'demotion' wouldn't be the right term. In any case, as I said on the previous page, he seems respectful enough to realise that he ought to step aside if Chris comes back.

It's not about having done anything wrong. I should imagine that, if Christine came back, there'd still be plenty for him to do as there was in 1997. She will need, as Michele says, the same assistance which she had then, and he can also play guitar and sing.

SpyNote 12-08-2013 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Etisl (Post 1113489)
At first view I thought.... "Wow, Stevie sounds like she really doesn't want Christine in the band." I kind of thought her body language and voice did not lean on the positive side..... but, now I look at it...and I think it is Stevie kind of saying.... "I would love for her to come back, but we have begged for years....and I just don't want to get my hopes up.....so I won't be disappointed." But, I know she must really want her to come back....

Yeah, you can't disguise... (sorry, LOL!) body language unless you're some kind of sociopath, which she is clearly not. Stevie's definitely showing some resignation about the issue. I agree with you that she isn't getting her hopes up. But I also think she has adjusted her view on the topic a bit in light of other opinions on the matter.

elle 12-08-2013 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 1113460)
It's interesting that you say Lindsey is loyal. That may be so, though I think Richard Dashut - on recent comments from various sources - might disagree.

all these various sources being Ken Caillat. :shrug:

SpyNote 12-08-2013 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 1113503)
He's a journeyman musician; he doesn't, I don't think, have particular job security in any part of his work. So 'demotion' wouldn't be the right term. In any case, as I said on the previous page, he seems respectful enough to realise that he ought to step aside if Chris comes back.

It's not about having done anything wrong. I should imagine that, if Christine came back, there'd still be plenty for him to do as there was in 1997. She will need, as Michele says, the same assistance which she had then, and he can also play guitar and sing.

I met Brett a few years ago and he seemed like a pretty good, down-to-earth kind of guy. He'd understand if he had to step down. But I wouldn't feel bad for him because he plays guitar also, as Ulpian said. And there's always a role for him in Stevie's touring band.

Deeshere 12-08-2013 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 1113503)
He's a journeyman musician; he doesn't, I don't think, have particular job security in any part of his work. So 'demotion' wouldn't be the right term. In any case, as I said on the previous page, he seems respectful enough to realise that he ought to step aside if Chris comes back.

It's not about having done anything wrong. I should imagine that, if Christine came back, there'd still be plenty for him to do as there was in 1997. She will need, as Michele says, the same assistance which she had then, and he can also play guitar and sing.

I agree that as a working musician it's part of the job, but he still's a man and I don't know any man that would be OK with getting moved to to a back up position or having their pay cut. I mean logically it makes sense, but emotionally it still hurts.

Ulpian 12-08-2013 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeshere (Post 1113510)
I agree that as a working musician it's part of the job, but he still's a man and I don't know any man that would be OK with getting moved to to a back up position or having their pay cut. I mean I logically it makes sense, but emotionally it still hurts.

Wow. Well, as a man I find that a little insulting. I'm sure you didn't mean it to be, so I'll run with it. As a man, if the job I was doing had been done by someone else previously, who had pretty much written the book on what I was doing and whom I respected and liked, I'd step back and take a different role in a heartbeat.

As for the pay, what do we know about financial arrangements? They might pay him the same if she came back but instead of doing the main keyboard parts, ask him to take on other stuff in addition to backing keys.

I just think from all I've ever read about him, in his words and others, that he would be totally fine about it. He has other streams of income from other musical jobs and, let's not forget, it's been a huge privilege for him to keep Christine's seat warm these last three tours, but - with great respect to him - that is all he has done.

Deeshere 12-08-2013 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 1113512)
Wow. Well, as a man I find that a little insulting. I'm sure you didn't mean it to be, so I'll run with it. As a man, if the job I was doing had been done by someone else previously, who had pretty much written the book on what I was doing and whom I respected and liked, I'd step back and take a different role in a heartbeat.

As for the pay, what do we know about financial arrangements? They might pay him the same if she came back but instead of doing the main keyboard parts, ask him to take on other stuff in addition to backing keys.

I just think from all I've ever read about him, in his words and others, that he would be totally fine about it. He has other streams of income from other musical jobs and, let's not forget, it's been a huge privilege for him to keep Christine's seat warm these last three tours, but - with great respect to him - that is all he has done.

Your right. I meant absolutely no disrespect to anyone and I'm sorry did you were offended by it. Honestly, I don't think any guy I know would take it well (and by that I don't mean they would get mad or yell, but they would still be upset), even if they did understand why it was happening. I shouldn't have made my statement so broad, because everyone has a different way of looking at things.

vivfox 12-08-2013 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeshere (Post 1113513)
Your right. I meant absolutely no disrespect to anyone and I'm sorry did you were offended by it. I shouldn't have made my statement so broad, because everyone has a different way of looking at things.

Broad??? Are you cutting down women now?:lol:

singertobe 12-08-2013 08:18 PM

I never though I'd hear the words "Illuminati" come out of her mouth:shocked: I hope they don't go after her now, if they're real...

BlueDenimLamp 12-08-2013 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by singertobe (Post 1113521)
I never though I'd hear the words "Illuminati" come out of her mouth:shocked: I hope they don't go after her now, if they're real...

She was obviously referring to a song she's written called "Illuminati" which is about her signing "Illume" in Cincinnati :nod:

David 12-08-2013 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1113479)
I think Brett still has plenty to do with Christine there.

People might not realize it, but there are a lot of keyboard modules and workstations in use at a Fleetwood concert. Christine had a backup keyboardist on the Tango, Mask, and Dance tours, and it was a full-time job in every case. The old-timer fans used to complain about all the "hardware" onstage. We were essentially complaining about all the keyboard equipment.

If there's anyone here who knows Brett, ask him whether he gets any workstation or "triggering" help from a second guy. Is he his own keyboard techie?

Deeshere 12-08-2013 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1113514)
Broad??? Are you cutting down women now?:lol:

:lol: you know I would never cut you down. I think you'd Awesome!

vivfox 12-08-2013 09:21 PM

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:lol: you know I would never cut you down. I think you're Awesome!

ROTFL!!!!:lol:

vivfox 12-08-2013 09:28 PM

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I'd like to be able to download this entire video but I don't know how. Does anyone out there know of a way? Skip???

michelej1 12-08-2013 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by SpyNote (Post 1113504)
Yeah, you can't disguise... (sorry, LOL!) body language unless you're some kind of sociopath, which she is clearly not. Stevie's definitely showing some resignation about the issue. I agree with you that she isn't getting her hopes up. But I also think she has adjusted her view on the topic a bit in light of other opinions on the matter.

It would be interesting to know what Lindsey's say is on the matter. So far, we've only heard what Stevie's said he's said. But whatever his view, he has been giving her his opinion on Christine since Christine left I would guess, so I doubt he could make her overhaul her own views since September, if he hadn't influenced her in the 15 years before September.

Michele

michelej1 12-08-2013 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 1113523)

If there's anyone here who knows Brett, ask him whether he gets any workstation or "triggering" help from a second guy. Is he his own keyboard techie?

In the program, Bruce Hendrix is listed as "key technician." I don't know if that is the same thing as a keyboard technician. Michael Kianka is a "key technician/programmer."

You know when they use the dubbed vocals for World Turning? Brett is always the one who operates those.

But Brett plays guitar too.

Michele

michelej1 12-08-2013 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Deeshere (Post 1113501)
All of this makes me think that if Christine had not quit the band in early 1998 that they would have kept on touring in 1998 and I have seen many people post that they thought The Dance Tour was the best FM tour they've seen so far. So sad....

It seems like the success of The Dance tour took them (or maybe not them, but the industry) by surprise. I guess the promoters didn't jump on board until they saw how well those first dates went, then maybe that's when the offers started pouring in. But Stevie has spoken many times of all the money they could have made and how they spent the whole tour trying to change Chris' mind, offering her a kitchen, etc.

Michele

michelej1 12-08-2013 10:01 PM

Let me say about Jana, just because she was dropped from Stevie's tour doesn't mean she would have been dropped from touring with FM again, if she hadn't gone public with her displeasure. When you are deciding how to trim the budget, the fact that Jana complained about you on social media doesn't make you really want to keep her.

They probably didn't need 3 singers anyway, but I don't think Jana did herself any favors. Don't get me wrong. I don't blame her. I might have done the same thing, but there are career consequences.

Michele

nicole21290 12-08-2013 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1113534)
I'd like to be able to download this entire video but I don't know how. Does anyone out there know of a way? Skip???

They've not disabled the download function on this video so it's fairly easy.

Just go here: http://vimeo.com/81241292

Then click 'download' under the video and right click+save the file. :)

If that's too much trouble, I have it up on mediafire: http://www.mediafire.com/download/2a...Dec%202013.mp4

MikeInNV 12-08-2013 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1113546)
Let me say about Jana, just because she was dropped from Stevie's tour doesn't mean she would have been dropped from touring with FM again, if she hadn't gone public with her displeasure. When you are deciding how to trim the budget, the fact that Jana complained about you on social media doesn't make you really want to keep her.

They probably didn't need 3 singers anyway, but I don't think Jana did herself any favors. Don't get me wrong. I don't blame her. I might have done the same thing, but there are career consequences.

Michele

And as I remember, she initially said she wouldn't be touring with Stevie, but that she would continue on with Fleetwood Mac. But then that didn't happen.

vivfox 12-08-2013 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by nicole21290 (Post 1113553)
They've not disabled the download function on this video so it's fairly easy.

Just go here: http://vimeo.com/81241292

Then click 'download' under the video and right click+save the file. :)

Very sweet of you to do this for me. And for those that can't figure this out, very sweet to provide them with a mediafire link. Kisses.


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