Live (1980) - remastered and expanded???
 

Yesterday I read the article on wikipedia about the 1980 live album by FM, and I found this:
"A remastered & expanded version of Live is to be released sometime in late 2013 by Rhino/Warner. A track listing for any extra tracks has yet to be announced." (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Live_%2...d_Mac_album%29)

But unfortunately, there was no source given. Does anyone know something about this?

this probably is referring to the collection of 3 live CDs from the early 70s, and they've got their wires crossed (unfortunately)

Well, sad to know that it's not official sources yet, but if this is true and one day Rhino/Warner release a new and expanded version of Live, I hope they don't forget two essential and very important songs: THE CHAIN & TUSK. TUSK!!!!!! We're in the Tusk Tour!!!!
Regards!

Don't hold your breath on that one. There was a similar snippet about Mirage being remastered and expanded about 2 years ago and then disappeared outta nowhere and no remaster unfortunately. Long story short, Wikipedia is not a very reliable source.

And what do you know? It magically reappears



"A remastered & expanded version of Mirage is to be released sometime in early 2014 by Rhino/Warner. A track listing for any extra tracks has yet to be announced."
Lets see how long it lasts this time.

I recall something about them having 400 hours of recordings to go through when they chose the tracks for the 1980 Live album. I know this won't happen. but I wonder how many discs it would take to release all 400 hours worth? :)

John

Approx 333 (an average cd holds 70 minutes in the old days).

I would love a soundboard recording of every Rhiannon from every Tusk Tour show.

Wow! I just converted hours to minutes and divided by 79 (since you can get 79 minutes on a disc) and it's 303 (and change, so say 304). I dread to think what the suggested retail price for a 304 CD set would be! :)

John

But they could make them available for download, which might compromise sound integrity, but we'd have something better than the demos that we've all been circulating of other stuff.

So, people could each download 10 and if they found anything outstanding then they could recommend it to everyone else. Oh, there's a superlative Farmer's Daughter ... or they made a mistake on GYOW, check it out.

Michele

It's probably been happening already. Somebody went through the live archives and grabbed some 1977 recordings for last year's big Rumours multi-CD set. Has anyone on the Ledge talked about that? I keep it in my car's CD player. I can't get enough of it. Those live cuts take you right back to the stadiums in summer 1977.

I have the "Sara / Farmers Daughter" Maxi single 45 disc :nod:
It still sounds good...

I got that set back in June for my birthday. I listen to the live disc all the time. Love the Intro bit a la Tusk and the live Oh Daddy, GDW, and The Chain.

More live CD's from the Mac would be awesome. :cool:

Didn't someone recently ask Mick at one of the meet and greets, and he confirmed that Warner is working on more reissues?

Japan had...
 

released some reissues but for the albums from the years 1969-1974:

http://lossless-galaxy.ru/lossless_g...apan-2013.html

I'd love to hear a remastered Landslide from live. Knowing the problems Stevie was having with her voice then, it's such an heroic performance. I love the little pause at the end of the song, before the applause. You can hear the standing ovation... If that makes sense.

That version of Landslide...oh man, it gives me chills.

I love that you guys are mentioning this version of Landslide-it's been my favorite for years. I still tell anybody that will listen that this is the version they need to hear.

It would be cool if they expanded the Live album, as FM has always been such a great live band and I've always loved this album.

That said, I would much prefer a similar box set that was released by Tom Petty and The Heartbreakers, The Live Anthology to be released by Fleetwood Mac.
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Thats great news.


I love to see the Tusk doco remastered onto DVD.Thats a whole other topic in its self.


I got a couple copies of the the 8 track version of the live album somewhere here .I played the crap out of them.

In 1980 by the time the live album was released I had already had and heard a million times the bootleg albums known as SIN CITY(Live in Las Vegas), ALBATROSS, BUT NOT AROUND MY NECK PLEASE and HOLLYWOOD. These 3 albums still hold up to this day. All 3 of these Rhiannon's are a million times better than the live officially released version, which IMHO is so lame. Of all the live Tusk versions that will just blow you away I totally believe Lindsey(Oh yes folks I blame him) chose THAT one as the track to define Stevie and to this day I completely skip that track. The live album does have many good selections but they completely failed with Rhiannon. I truly believe that Stevie had nothing to do with the song selections on Live because at that time she had already moved forward and had begun the production of Bella Donna.

Rant over.

My favorite Landslide will always be the one from the Disney Fleetwood Mac: Going Home documentary. It was just so torchy... I love it!

Now this is a remaster/reissue I'd actually buy! :nod:

They should really do what Petty did. And release a 4 or 5 disc live anthology.

There are certain Tusk songs, What Makes You Think..., Tusk, Sisters...., That's Enough... etc that each have at least one phenomenal live version out there. How they were even overlooked on the 1980 album is a mystery to me.

Plus, considering the fact that they haven't exactly played too much songs live they could probably fit one version of every song they've ever played live on the album.

Really? I don't mind that version of Rhiannon (although my favorite is from Providence 1977). And I think it's from the Rumours tour even though it's on the Live 1980 album. I think it was determined that some of the songs on that album actually came from tours earlier than the Tusk tour. (?)

But, does anyone else think that the version on the live disc of the Rumours boxset is the very same version as the Live 1980 version, just without the smoothing out of the rough edges of the music that the Live 1980 version has? The vocal and most of the music is just too much the same, and at that point (anything pre-The Dance Reunion Tour), the song never sounded the same twice, there was alawys something different, either the vocal, the guitar solo, the keyboard, something.

Or, if not, where is it from? From which of the three shows that the Rumours live disc pulls the songs did this Rhiannon come from? Thanks.

Based on the boots we have (and some of them are not even that good in sound quality) few of the best versions of any of the songs wound up on the album, including GYOW. While they may not have chosen what the fans would have chosen I can't assume that anyone deliberately chose an inferior version of a song to put on there, since the bad choices were evenly distributed.

Michele

They played 6 shows in London and the LIVE version came from one of them. Another night's version from London is so amazing that it is a shame it wasn't chosen as the definitive live version of Rhiannon.

Yes, GYOW in particular on Live 1980 sounds completely castrated. And, to me, on that album, "Dreams" sounds musically flat (not the vocal, but the music itself, especially the keyboard).

As usual .I was late getting on the boat collecting FM /Stevie boots which I started collecting then in the early 1990's out of the Goldmine mag.
I was making good money then like most of us so I probably spend over a few grand on FM/Stevie stuff then.



I agree .I have that Disney docu on VHS somewhere and a digital copy from online I've downloaded from somewhere.

They could remaster the Disney docu along with the Tusk docu.

I would love to have them in my collection.

Thanks! Which night in London had the amazing version? Do you know the date? I would love to go through my old bootleg tapes and see if I have it.

OK, so the Live 1980 version came from London. I still find it quite shoking that the two versions are so close, especially the lead vocal. She even used to switch up the choruses and sing them in different orders from night to night. You never which you'd hear where... sometimes the "once in a million years" would be first, sometimes it would be "all your life, you've never seen...", (but then you didn't know if it would be "wind" or "sky"). It's odd that these two versions would have the exact same vocal, with the same "taken by the wind-- once in a million years-- taken by the sky" order. Maybe it's just my ears, but these two lead vocals sound almost exactly the same. And I can't find any other two versions that are so similar.

So where did the version on the Rumours boxset Live disc come from? Oklahoma City, Nashville, or Tulsa? Those are the three shows that they say all the songs on the Rumours disc come from.

The version from the GW Forum in August 1977 (the cassette tape of which I initiated in circulation way back when, until somebody finally put it onto CD and later in digital format) is one of the best live versions of "Rhiannon" I can recall hearing, either live or in person. (and I saw/heard them all at that LA "homestand" in '77)

I agree about this Rhiannon being amazing. Landslide, from this show also is quite incredible.

It's too bad I didn't get the whole show...only got about the first half. From recall, I think that was THE best show I'd seen from the "fireflies" incarnation, before or since. (even Buckingham's "Oh Well" didn't bother me that night!)

Really!? Wow. I couldn't disagree more lol ;) That version of Rhiannon, at that point in time was so similar to most of the performances early in that tour before she started dropping her vocal down. I think it's pretty spot on and rivals Rosebud.

I actually don't dislike anything about the Live album except for a few ommissions (The Chain, Sisters, GDW). However, one glaring mistake imo is rerecording most of the vocals on Sara. That, to me, is sacrilegious. I never could stand it and rarely listen to it. It's the Tusk tour doc performance but she recorded a new vocal. Shoulda kept the original. Just sayin....

I guess it's all very subjective because I like that GYOW quite a bit. Sounds a little chipmunky in the vocals, but the guitar blazes out like the Peasants' Revolt.

The 1980 Live has a bunch of material from 1977: Monday Morning, Say You Love Me, Dreams, Over My Head, Rhiannon, and Don't Stop—and Don't Let Me Down Again might be from 1976 or '75.

There's also a beautiful Never Going Back Again, my favorite track on the album. It's the 1980 performances of that song which mark the birth of the "modern" Lindsey, to my ears—stretching the sinewy vocal lines, elongating a bit here, pushing a bit there, driving a rhythm home despite deliberate fits and starts that make the crowd wonder which downbeat to clap with.