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CADreaming 09-18-2013 08:23 PM

Buckingham Nicks - "Preserving the Goods"...
 
Reported Today from Lotus Mastering!

"Completed an analog archive of Stevie & Lindsey "Buckingham Nicks" (1973) for Polydor Records."

Asked for more details the response was: "Preserving and digitizing the analog master tapes. No idea if they plan to re-release."

Interesting track listing too...song titles not recognized include: "Jackie's Song" and "Boogie". ("Crystal" & "Don't Let Me Down Again"?)

http://pbs.twimg.com/media/BUduHFLCUAEF8CG.jpg

http://www.fleetwoodmacnews.com/2013...inning-of.html

https://twitter.com/lotusmastering/s...951424/photo/1

WildHearted 09-18-2013 08:46 PM

Who's Jackie?

CADreaming 09-18-2013 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1103722)
Who's Jackie?

Idk. :confused::shrug:

applebucked 09-18-2013 09:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1103722)
Who's Jackie?

Another of Stevie's alter-egos :lol:

StevieNicksfann 09-18-2013 09:40 PM

Who's Johnny? She said and smiled in her special way

Macfanforever 09-18-2013 09:59 PM

I wonder where they got the masters from.

CADreaming 09-18-2013 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1103731)
I wonder where they got the masters from.

The Vault. ;)

Macfanforever 09-18-2013 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1103732)
The Vault. ;)

Oh OK I will be surprised they still play after sitting around for 40 years.

Probably alot of tape baking got to be done in order to transfer to digital.

I've done it myself.

CADreaming 09-18-2013 10:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1103735)
Oh OK I will be surprised they still play after sitting around for 40 years.

Probably alot of tape baking got to be done in order to transfer to digital.

I've done it myself.

I think Keith said he had already done that.

SpyNote 09-20-2013 02:23 PM

I'd imagine those master tapes were baked to get digital masters when Stevie needed "Long Distance Winner" for the Enchanted box set. They're probably updating the masters, for what clearly seems like a future reissue. :thumbsup:

Steviegirl 09-20-2013 03:03 PM

What does "baked" mean, please?

SpyNote 09-20-2013 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steviegirl (Post 1103866)
What does "baked" mean, please?

It's literally baking the tape in an oven... I wasn't aware that it's a one time deal. Here's more on the baking process:

http://www.terranovamastering.com/ma...ry.html#baking
BAKING TAPES:
Most analog tapes recorded prior to 1990, probably need to be "baked", before transfer. The fee to bake is charged PER TAPE. A diagnostic check of the materials by our engineers is required before we accept the project. The baking process is time consuming and precise, and the process is attended by the engineer. The client must be aware that this process is not guaranteed by our company. It is a last resort to salvaging a tape that has not been taken care of. Over a number of years, the iron oxide peels or flakes off of the tape itself, and baking the tape in a specifically designated oven, usually forces the iron oxide back onto the tape. After the baking is complete, there is a two week window for the tapes to be transferred to another format. After the tapes are baked once, and they have been transferred, they will start to flake again, and cannot be salvaged any further. One baking session, one transfer, and the life of the tape is over.

iamnotafraid 09-20-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Steviegirl (Post 1103866)
What does "baked" mean, please?


They wrap wax paper around them
and then nuke them for a few minutes.
Apply butter and salt to your taste.
Mmm good.


Actually, if those tapes were stored
properly they shouldn't be in that bad
of shape.

Steviegirl 09-20-2013 05:39 PM

Very interesting. Thank you both! :)

Steviegirl 09-20-2013 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1103876)
They wrap wax paper around them
and then nuke them for a few minutes.
Apply butter and salt to your taste.
Mmm good.


Actually, if those tapes were stored
properly they shouldn't be in that bad
of shape.

Ha! funny.

drzubritsky 09-20-2013 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SpyNote (Post 1103868)
It's literally baking the tape in an oven... I wasn't aware that it's a one time deal. Here's more on the baking process:

http://www.terranovamastering.com/ma...ry.html#baking
BAKING TAPES:
Most analog tapes recorded prior to 1990, probably need to be "baked", before transfer. The fee to bake is charged PER TAPE. A diagnostic check of the materials by our engineers is required before we accept the project. The baking process is time consuming and precise, and the process is attended by the engineer. The client must be aware that this process is not guaranteed by our company. It is a last resort to salvaging a tape that has not been taken care of. Over a number of years, the iron oxide peels or flakes off of the tape itself, and baking the tape in a specifically designated oven, usually forces the iron oxide back onto the tape. After the baking is complete, there is a two week window for the tapes to be transferred to another format. After the tapes are baked once, and they have been transferred, they will start to flake again, and cannot be salvaged any further. One baking session, one transfer, and the life of the tape is over.

I don't think that baking is always a one-shot deal. From the posts on a mastering forum that I sometimes read, there are masters that have been baked multiple times with no discernible sound quality degradation or damage. It may be a factor of the care that was put into tape storage...those that have been stored consistently in cool, dry conditions may be less prone to permanent damage (although if they were recorded on the unstable Ampex tape that was in use in the 70s and 80s they will still require baking to restore to temporary playability).

The BN master would certainly need to have been baked in 1998 for the mastering of "Long Distance Winner" for Stevie's box set, so this latest digital transfer would have been another round in the oven.

CADreaming 09-20-2013 09:07 PM

Per Keith's q&a in 2000:

"Lindsey and Stevie now own the rights to Buckingham Nicks... they bought it back from Polydor/polygram...I pulled out the masters over a year ago, baked them to re-adhere the oxide to the backing, then built a master digital from it... it took me back so many years."

http://www.fleetwoodmac.net/fwm/inde...145&Itemid=165


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