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doodyhead 08-29-2013 05:06 PM

Gary Moore's Blues For Greeny
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6KCCnIhgRo

Moore live ...so what do you think?

Stormwind 08-29-2013 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodyhead (Post 1101445)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6KCCnIhgRo

Moore live ...so what do you think?

No secret that Gary Moore massively has adored Peter Green during his carrier. Mr Green was, somewhat, his mentor, and all this blues influence, after a hard rock/rock oriented carrier (Thin Lizzy, Solo albums), was visible in classic albums like "Still Got The Blues" (one of my favourite albums ever) and the various homages to Peter Green, the one posted here. I liked every single second of it. Gary Moore one of the greatest guitarist ever lived in my opinion.

Ms Moose 09-02-2013 03:11 AM

I think that Gary Moore - in a lot of ways - was everything that Peter Green was not as a musician and a singer. Green's essence was restrained energy and thereby intense emotion - the same goes for his voice.
Gary was more rock and hardly any blues in my humble opinion.

Ms Moose

dansven 09-02-2013 12:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms Moose (Post 1101847)
I think that Gary Moore - in a lot of ways - was everything that Peter Green was not as a musician and a singer. Green's essence was restrained energy and thereby intense emotion - the same goes for his voice.
Gary was more rock and hardly any blues in my humble opinion.

Ms Moose

Exactly! :nod:

Moore is feedback, technique and grimaces. He's flashy, but doesn't go deep. I guess he appeals to young guitar players, in particular. He's a good rocker, though. But he was temperamental, and occasionally rude to the audience.


But...... "Blues For Greeny" turned me on to the wonderful world of Peter Green.
So thank you, Gary!! :blob2:

dino 09-03-2013 01:04 AM

Not into Gary, but he was generous in his praise of Peter Green and of course a very competent player. I seem to recall the Still Got The Blues album almost started a blues revival in the early 90's. Rest in peace.

mzero 09-04-2013 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by dino (Post 1101981)
Not into Gary, but he was generous in his praise of Peter Green and of course a very competent player. I seem to recall the Still Got The Blues album almost started a blues revival in the early 90's. Rest in peace.

and he got pete to appear on stage at one of his live performances of bfg in 1994? - a catalyst for pg's return to playing

i haven't watched the whole bfg concert on youtube yet. thanks for posting that link vinnie. i too have trouble watching gary for long stretches!

z

zoork_1 09-04-2013 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodyhead (Post 1101445)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6KCCnIhgRo

Moore live ...so what do you think?

I actually, surprisingly to myself, enjoy it...

Ms Moose 09-05-2013 11:30 AM

I agree, as you all say, Gary Moore was generous in his praise for Peter Green. A genuine fan, who helped promote him after years in oblivion. But I don't like Moore as a musician - didn't even like "Still Got The Blues" from the late eighties, when everybody loved it and it was played everywhere all the time for months on end.

I always thought it a pity that Gary played Green's guitar. He attacked the poor thing as if he was going to make matchsticks of it:laugh:

Unfortunately the clip on Youtube of Gary and B.B. King playing "The Thrill is Gone" has been removed. Otherwise I would have posted it on this spot. Sad, because I actually liked Gary in that. It was as if B.B. had a restraining influence on him.

Ms Moose

dansven 09-05-2013 02:22 PM

Is this the one, Ms Moose? :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZT9ub5wH81s
not good sound though..

LeoL 09-05-2013 02:44 PM

Better sound quality
 
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/xc8...ll-is-go_music

Ms Moose 09-05-2013 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by LeoL (Post 1102216)

Yes, that's it. Thank you very much dansven and LeoL. Unfortunately the good one (both picture and sound) has disappeared from Youtube.

In this clip it really shows how different these two musicians are when it comes to tone and projection of feeling. B.B. King has more bluesfeeling in one note than Gary has in a string (of notes). Still something happens when they play together, and I choose to think that Gary's end note is "for Greeny":nod:

Ms Moose

dansven 09-12-2013 06:01 AM

This should perhaps be in a thread of its own...

I respect all artists for doing tribute to Peter Green.
Gary Moore, Bernie Marsden etc...

However, there are very few I find interesting. :shrug:
A couple of exceptions must be Snowy White and Rory Gallagher on that "Peter Green Songbook" (aka "Rattlesnake Guitar") 2CD.
And of course The Beatles' "Sun King" is sweet, but that's not a cover...

I've also stumbled across some amateur recordings on Youtube which were good. But most stuff there is nothing to write home about.

THD 09-18-2013 07:11 AM

Gary Moore's version of I Loved Another Woman on this (as an example )is not bad at all . I ,surprisingly ,found his playing quite expressive. and to be fair. he could have gone over the top and given his guitar a distorted tone on this song -but he didn't !
However ,I don't think his singing has the emotional depth of Peter's -you believe that Peter lived it ,( and he probably did !)
But watching Gary play on these clips did give me a thought :what would we be saying if Gary had played this backed by Mick and John Mc Vie It's all to easy to forget their impact on the overall effect . Peter backed by Mick and John and Danny was fantastic, but Peter without them ,I think ,was slightly less fantastic ?

dansven 09-18-2013 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by THD (Post 1103602)
But watching Gary play on these clips did give me a thought :what would we be saying if Gary had played this backed by Mick and John Mc Vie It's all to easy to forget their impact on the overall effect . Peter backed by Mick and John and Danny was fantastic, but Peter without them ,I think ,was slightly less fantastic ?

Very good point!:nod:
Peter always gets (deserved) credit. And also Danny to some extent.
But many people - myself included - tend to forget that John and Mick is a rhythm section in its own class! :)

TheGreenBlues 09-18-2013 11:39 AM

Danny complimented Peters guitar playing greatly. Mick and John were a good rhythm section for Peter. I'd loved to have seen Peter play with the likes of Keith Moon and John Entwistle. Not taking from Mick and John as their style is different but Moon and Entwistle were a power house.

THD 09-18-2013 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TheGreenBlues (Post 1103646)
I'd loved to have seen Peter play with the likes of Keith Moon and John Entwistle. Not taking from Mick and John as their style is different but Moon and Entwistle were a power house.

Moon and Entwhistle were indeed a powerhouse and I love the Who , but (and I my be doing him an injustice )how would Moon have dealt with Need Your Love So Bad .for example ,I just don't think he was even capable of being as restrained and sympathetic as Mick was ,(not to mention the slow burning build up in the middle section ) , On two occasions I have seen Mick do very very flash things on the drums -things that, if you'd just heard it without knowing who it was doing it , you would say "that can't be Mick Fleetwood drumming" it was so out of character compared to his FM stye (in any FM era )
But he is wise enough or sensitive enough to, as he says himself, "Keep it Simple " cause that's what is required for the overal effect of the band The shuffle section at the end of Black Magic Woman would be a good example of this effective simplicity ! You've opened a can of worms here - without Moon are the Who as good as they were and therefore is Pete Townsend as effective as he was with without Moon backing him (more like Moon leading him ) ? What would Pete Townsend sound like backed by Mick and John- I can't see that working ?

TheGreenBlues 09-20-2013 03:48 PM

Great Points. Keith as people have pointed out would have sounded crap if he wasn't in the Who (And I'm a big fan but he was destined for The Who). For the Who Are You album album Keith couldn't play on one track "Music Must Change" because it was in 5/4 time instead of the normal 4/4.

I would never have wanted FM and The Who's history change but it would be great to imagine if after Peter left FM he formed a mini supergroup with Enwistle and Moon for one album or a couple of live dates as a small touring band.

Wouter Vuijk 09-27-2013 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansven (Post 1102780)
This should perhaps be in a thread of its own...

I respect all artists for doing tribute to Peter Green.
Gary Moore, Bernie Marsden etc...

However, there are very few I find interesting. :shrug:
A couple of exceptions must be Snowy White and Rory Gallagher on that "Peter Green Songbook" (aka "Rattlesnake Guitar") 2CD.
And of course The Beatles' "Sun King" is sweet, but that's not a cover...

I've also stumbled across some amateur recordings on Youtube which were good. But most stuff there is nothing to write home about.

Well.... I really liked the Mick Fleetwood Bluesband with Rick Vito. Rick did a fantastic job on Peters songs. I especially liked the way he solved the problem of three guitars on Albatross. And his version of Love That Burns really got to me. :nod:
He overruled everything that Gary Moore, Bernie Marsden or Jim King have done. :sorry:


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