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redbird 03-26-2013 01:55 AM

5 least favorite songs by each writer
 
I apologize if this is groansomely old hat around here, but I'm working on a paper and need to procrastinate for just 15 minutes so I thought I'd throw it up in case anyone bites.

I was curious what everyone's least favorite band songs were by each of the three Rumours era writers. You can include pre- and post- Rumours era songs by each writer if you want, you don't have to order if you can't, and if 5 is too restricting or too much do however many you need to properly express your dislike ;) Here's mine:

LB
1. Family Man (TITN)
2. Goodbye Angel (25YTC)
3. What's the World Coming To (SYW)
4. Caroline (TITN)
5T. Tango in the Night (TITN)
5T. Come (SYW)

CM
Never Make Me Cry (Tusk)
Skies the Limit (BTM)
Save Me (BTM)
All Over Again (Time)
I Do (Time)

SN
1. Welcome to the Room...Sara (TITN)
2. Say You Will (SYW)
3. Sweet Girl (Dance)
4. Illume (SYW)
5. Silver Girl (SYW)
(I'm irrational about "When I See You Again".)

windbecame 03-26-2013 04:11 AM

GREAT TOPIC!!! :thumbsup:
Lindsey - Not That Funny
Empire State
Teen Beat (WTH was that???)
Make Me A Mask
Come
Christine - Sugar Daddy (VOMIT)
Oh Daddy (More Vomit)
Honey Hi (how is this a song?)
Never Make Me Cry ( again SO short it's like 1/3 of a demo??)
Temporary One
Stevie - Crystal (really because I want her to sing the lead vocal in 75)
Angel (this is my LEAST fav song of her's EVER)
Welcome to the Room...Sara(but love it 10X more than Angel)
No Questions Asked (there's NO Chorus whatsoever???)
The Second Time (i actually love this, BUT she sounds DRUNK)

tz5632 03-26-2013 08:53 AM

Christine McVie:
Mystified (Tango in the night)
Warm ways (Fleetwood Mac)
Wish you were here (Mirage)
I do (Time)
Sugar daddy (Fleetwood Mac)

Stevie Nicks:
Welcome to the room...Sara (Tango in the night) AWFUL!!!
The second time (Behind the mask)
When I see you again (Tango in the night)
Affairs of the heart (Behind the mask)
No questions asked (Greatest Hits) - I only like the bridge in that song...the rest is boring.

Lindsey Buckingham:
Can't go back (Mirage)
Teen beat (25 years / Mirage)
My little demon (The dance)
What's the world coming to (Say you will)
Fou you and I, Part 2 (Tango in the night) - I like Christine's version of that song much more (Eyes wide shut)

So far, so good :)
Tschoe
Tobi

holidayroad 03-26-2013 09:07 AM

LB

Save Me a Place



SN

The Second Time
Welcome to the Room, Sara
Running Through the Garden


CM

I like all of her songs w/FM

louielouie2000 03-26-2013 09:13 AM

Lindsey
My Little Demon
Empire State
What's The World Coming To?
Book Of Love
Can't Go Back

Stevie
That's Alright
Angel

Christine
Don't Stop
Sugar Daddy
Never Make Me Cry

On Ice 03-26-2013 09:25 AM

Lindsey:
Red Rover
Family Man
Murrow Turning over in his Grave
Make Me a Mask
Empire State

Stevie:
When I see you Again
Welcome to the Room Sara
Seven Wonders
No Questions Asked
Paper Doll

Christine:
Only Over You (to me is her one and only Mac misstep, I like the rest of her material)

KarmaContestant 03-26-2013 10:03 AM

For me, Lindsey has the most songs that I don't like, but that is because he's the one that takes the most creative liberties when recording, and is willing to do something different. With Christine, even her worst songs are not bad - they're just generic. I'm a Stevie fan at heart and I like most of her material, though I do think she's had a few Mac selections that were questionable.

Lindsey:
Save Me A Place (I really don't like whiny songs)
Oh Diane
Can't Go Back
Family Man
My Little Demon
Red Rover

Christine:
Love In Store
Skies The Limit

Stevie:
Paper Doll
No Questions Asked
Smile At You (a great song robbed of it's musical identity)

StevieNicksfann 03-26-2013 10:11 AM

Stevie -

Freedom
That's Alright
Storms
When I See You Again - although am starting to like it now.

That's it - I love every other song from her including No Questions Asked (one of my faves), Paper Doll, Say You Will and even Silver Girl.

Christine -

Oh Daddy and everything from Tusk except Think About Me and Never Make Me Cry

Lindsey -

Come
Red Rover
and all his stuff on Tusk except for Tusk itself.

jcalzaretta 03-26-2013 10:18 AM

LB

Red Rover
Not that Funny
Family Man
Empire State
Murrow Turning over in his Grave


Christine

Only Over You
Honey Hi
Mystified
Everywhere
Never Forget


Stevie

Silver Girl
When I See You Again
Welcome to the Room...Sara
Goodbye Baby
The Second Time

redtulip 03-26-2013 10:30 AM

SN

Landslide
Sara
Welcome to the Room Sara
That's Alright
Crystal

CM
Only Over You
Honey Hi
Warm Ways
Oh Daddy
Never Make Me Cry

LB

Make Me A Mask
Say Goodbye
Family Man

RickRobert 03-26-2013 10:47 AM

Going just by the studio albums...

Lindsey
1. Book of Love
2. That's Enough For Me
3. Miranda
4. Say Goodbye (zzz...)
5. Empire State
(honorable mention for Peacekeeper's dumb kazoo refrain)

Stevie
1. Angel (ZZZZZZZZZZZZZ...)
2. Silver Girl
3. Welcome to the Room... Sara
4. Affairs of the Heart
5. That's Alright (Only song of Stevie's I've heard multiple times where I couldn't remember a note of it if you asked me)

Christine
1. Over My Head
2. Only Over You
3. Hold Me
4. Mystified (just for the xylophone)
5. Never Forget (though I don't dislike it)

If co-writes count then put You and I Pt. 2 at 1. for both Christine and Lindsey

TheWILDheart 03-26-2013 11:13 AM

Lindsey:

Make Me A Mask
You and I part 2
Murrow Turning Over In His Grave
My Little Demon
Not That Funny

Christine:

Warm Ways
Only Over You
Mystified
Ricky
Honey Hi

Stevie:

When I See You Again
N/A
N/A
N/A
N/A

Self confessed Chiffon-head :thumbsup:. WISYA is the only Stevie-Mac song I cannot bare. I love the rest. Including the songs that seem to get a lot of stick, like "Paper Doll", "Silver Girl" and "The Second Time". I will never understand how it's possible for anybody not to love "Angel" and "That's Alright"

redbird 03-26-2013 12:12 PM

I was surprised myself that 'Save Me a Place' did not end up on my Lindsey list, but I think I am finally coming around to it. It has a quirky charm to it that at the very least keeps it from being bland.

LOL @ the kazoo refrain from 'Peacekeeper'. That's the one part of the song I really dislike, otherwise I think it's somewhere between okay and good.

Christine's was the hardest for me to do simply because she has so many damn songs, I wonder if my list would change if I did this next week. I agree that she's the most consistent and basically her "bad" songs come down to being bland. For me Lindsey's bad songs are miscalculations of medium-to-big ideas and Stevie's are where her lyrics just get really awkward.

I don't hear what any of you are saying about "Angel" la la la la la :p No but really, keep them coming.

FierySequences 03-26-2013 03:25 PM

L
SMAP
TAFE
WATL
Make Me A Mask
?

S
Straight Back (it's just a weird pick, but then again so is That's Alright)
The Second Time
No Q's Asked
Illume
Smile At You

C
Only Over You
Songbird
Mystified
Oh Daddy
Don't Stop

aleuzzi 03-26-2013 03:36 PM

LB

I'm So Afraid (the vocal doesn't work--the instrumental track is great)
Empire State
Oh Diane
Make Me a Mask
Come

CM

Skies the Limit
All Over Again
Morning Rain (Atypically Bad Vocal)
I Do
Do You Know

SN

Welcome to the Room...Sara
When I See You Again
Silver Girl
No Questions Asked
Paper Doll

Honorable Mention: Goodbye Baby

elle 03-26-2013 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holidayroad (Post 1083687)
LB
Save Me a Place

surprised how many dislike Save Me A Place... but totally agree with that. :D :p

happy to see the dislike for What's The World Coming To, Say Goodbye, and TAFE, and not surprised about Family Man and Oh Diane.


completely puzzled and not understanding all the dislike of Red Rover, Come, and Murrow. :rolleyes::shrug: great great songs!!


my list of LB songs that i dislike would include:
What's The World Coming To
Say Goodbye
That's All For Everyone
Family Man
Save Me A Place

CM songs:
there are many i'm indifferent to, but dislike might be a bit strong

list of SN songs that i dislike starts with:
Sara
Silver Girl
Running Through The Garden
Illume
Not Make Believe

MacShadowsBall 03-26-2013 06:34 PM

From Aug 2011 least favorite song contest...top 8 Rumours Era...:cool:
  • Warm Ways - least fav from '75 FM
  • Don't Stop - least fav from Rumours
  • That's All For Everyone - least fav from Tusk
  • Empire State - least fav from Mirage
  • Teen Beat - least fav Lindsey song
  • Family Man - least fav from Tango in the Night
  • Ricky - least fav Christine song
  • Silver Girl - least fav from Say You Will
http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=48284

chiliD 03-26-2013 06:43 PM

Going solely on songs WITH Fleetwood Mac

Peter Green: NONE

Jeremy Spencer: the repetetiveness of those Elmore James things got a little tedious on Mr Wonderful, but overall, there's nothing I didn't like, taken individually.

Danny Kirwan: When You Say, When You Say, When You Say, did I mention "When You Say"?

Bob Welch: NONE

Christine McVie: NONE (well, maybe "Ricky", but that was an unfinished B-side throwaway)

Lindsey Buckingham:
Not That Funny (studio version)
Oh Diane
You & I, Part II
Come (studio version)


Stevie Nicks:
Welcome To The Room...Sara
No Questions Asked
The Second Time
Running Through The Garden
Silver Girl

Rick Vito: Stand On The Rock (there were better songs left in the can than that one that should've made the album...but, I still like that song)

Billy Burnette: NONE


Dave Mason: NONE

Bekka Bramlett: NONE

elle 03-26-2013 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 1083762)
Christine McVie: NONE (well, maybe "Ricky", but that was an unfinished B-side throwaway)

Lindsey Buckingham:
Not That Funny (studio version)
Oh Diane
You & I, Part II
Come (studio version)

considering this was a co-write, does the same song irritate you when you think of it as Lindsey's but doesn't when you think of it as Christine's? :confused:

redbird 03-26-2013 09:20 PM

I don't believe I know "Ricky" but now I'm curious.

"Come" has me in its corner right up until it explodes all high octane like. That said I don't hate it (nor "Tango in the Night").

WatchChain 03-26-2013 09:31 PM

Wow, I'm seeing some of the best Fleetwood Mac songs listed on some of these "worst lists"..........."Oh Daddy" (one of the most haunting FM songs ever recorded), "I'm So Afraid", "Angel", "Over My Head".........

My worst songs from any FM songwriter usually appear on their solo efforts.

"Jane" and "Desert Angel" and "Soldier's Angel" rank amoung Stevie Nicks' most questionable recordings. They are so cheesy that I ALMOST love them. After the first spin of these delightful "gems", I was saying to myself, "Huh?" But, quite simply I adore Buckingham/Nicks/McVie and I would buy a recording of them snoring.....so, my opinion is not exacty objective.

redbird 03-26-2013 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WatchChain (Post 1083780)
Wow, I'm seeing some of the best Fleetwood Mac songs listed on some of these "worst lists"..........."Oh Daddy" (one of the most haunting FM songs ever recorded), "I'm So Afraid", "Angel", "Over My Head".........

I love those songs too, but it's always fun to see how differently people feel. I know there are people who love Stevie's Say You Will stuff more than I do, whereas I like a lot of her post-Tango pre-Dance stuff ("No Questions Asked", "Paper Doll", "Freedom" ... "The Second Time" is not bad, to me, but then I can find a soft spot for WISYA). I've also learned that I like retro-Lindsey (Mirage, Teen Beat, etc) way more than many :laugh:

I like the album version of "Smile At You", just not as much as the demo.
And I'm a big fan of "Sugar Daddy" and "Make Me a Mask" too, I like that song more than most of Lindsey's that did make it on to Tango. And "That's Alright". And Lindsey's Tusk songs. And "Morning Rain".

But wait, what was I saying? Vive la difference ;)

MacShadowsBall 03-26-2013 09:59 PM

Christine
Warm Ways
Never Make Me Cry
Brown Eyes
Never Forget
Honey Hi

Lindsey
everything from Tusk, Mirage, Tango except SMAP/Oh Diane/TITN :sorry:

Stevie
Rhiannon :eek:
Silver Springs (B-side version)
I Don't Wanna Know
That's Alright
When I See You Again

redtulip 03-26-2013 10:12 PM

I completely forgot about Illume! Can I pick 6?

redbird 03-26-2013 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1083756)
there are many i'm indifferent to, but dislike might be a bit strong

I should add that you don't have to dislike/hate the songs you list, as long as their your bottom 5(ish).

Quote:

Originally Posted by redtulip (Post 1083788)
I completely forgot about Illume! Can I pick 6?

If the spirit moves you :cool:

Dreamz19 03-27-2013 12:35 AM

Stevie

I like most of Stevie's FM songs. There are more of her solo songs I really dislike.

Seven Wonders
Landslide....Don't stone me. I do like this song. However, I am sooooo tired of hearing it and always skip over it.

Lindsey

That's Enough For Me
Oh Diane
Book of Love
Red Rover

Christine

Love in Store
Sugar Daddy
Skies the Limit
Wish You Were Here

Gene 03-27-2013 10:49 AM

Stevie:
Beautiful Child
Straight Back
Welcome to the Room Sara
When I See You Again
Illume

Christine:
Sugar Daddy
Songbird
Oh Daddy
Honey Hi
Save Me

Lindsey:
Big Love (Enjoy the band version, sick of the solo version)
Red Rover

KarmaContestant 03-27-2013 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dreamz19 (Post 1083798)
Skies the Limit

How could I forget this song - it's far worse than Save Me.

KarmaContestant 03-27-2013 11:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1083756)
completely puzzled and not understanding all the dislike of Red Rover, Come, and Murrow. :rolleyes::shrug: great great songs!!

Red Rover is just...weird. The last thing I ever want to hear when friends are over, and I'm playing music, is "What the heck are you listening to?". This kind of song prompts that question, and it's never asked in a good way. :laugh:

Christopher 03-27-2013 11:53 AM

Lindsey
What's The World Coming To
Family Man
Caroline
My Little Demon
Tie: Oh Diane/Empire State

Christine
Save Me - pure unadulterated medicore Christine by-the-numbers crap.
Temporary One - see above. Plus, this song makes my skin crawl. dreadful:distress:
Everywhere
Mystified
Never Make Me Cry

Stevie
No Questions Asked - When I Seeeeee you, I feeeeel you (Ugh, nails on a charkboard)
Affairs Of The Heart (mostly because of the thin production & arrangement)
Not Make Believe (The demo had more of a groove and lots of potential. The chorus is very catchy - again wish this were produced & arranged differently because ultimatley I like this song. The cold start with Stevie's gravelly voice was a bad move, as it was on Running Through The Garden & Destiny Rules imo.
Silver Girl - nice simple melody and chorus, ruined by some dreadful lyrics in the verses.

GypsySorcerer 03-27-2013 08:20 PM

Lindsey:
Empire State
Teen Beat
Come (studio)

Stevie:
When I See You Again
Welcome to the Room...Sara
Silver Girl
The Second Time

Christine:
One More Night
Only Over You

whitewingdove 03-28-2013 10:31 PM

Stevie
~Blue Letter
~I Don't Wanna Know
~Illume (So many people will disagree, just my personal opinion. Not one of her best)
~The Highwayman (I know its not FM but since I couldn't think of another, might as well throw it in

Linds
~Second Hand News
~Murrow Turning Over In His Grave
~Pretty much anything off of Say You Will exept; Bleed To Love Her, Peacekeeper and Say Goodbye

Chris
~Temporary One
~Songbird Live (Not that its not an amazing performance but It makes me wanna fall asleep)
~Over And Over
~The rest I'll just leave blank because there are quite a few I don't like as much as others that came before Linds and Stevie joined.

Hawkeye 03-29-2013 02:21 AM

Stevie

1. The Second Time
2. Affairs of the Heart
3. Paper Doll
4. Welcome to the Room Sara
5. When I See You Again

Lindsey

1. Oh Diane
2. You and I (either one)
3. Eyes of the World (studio only, live could be top 5 instead ironically)
4. Cant go back
5. Miranda

Christine

1. One more night
2. Wish you were here
3. I do
4. Everywhere
5. Hold Me


Yes, I'm 100 percent positive on numbers 4 and 5 for christine. Everywhere in particular is an embarrassment compared to her dozens of masterpieces I'm not gonna list again but take a look at my top 20 in the Chris forum. And the thing is I don't hate either song. Hold me in particular is one I'd be sure to keep on if it came on the radio but they were obvious choices for her bottom 5.

redbird 03-29-2013 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitewingdove (Post 1084050)
Stevie
~Blue Letter

Ooh, I don't think that's a Stevie song!

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitewingdove (Post 1084050)
The rest I'll just leave blank because there are quite a few I don't like as much as others that came before Linds and Stevie joined.

You can include pre-Stevie and Lindsey songs if you want! If that's what you're getting at.

moon 03-31-2013 12:13 AM

Christine
- Sugar Daddy
- Oh Daddy
- Honey Hi (:eek:)
- Save Me
- Sky's the limit
(and I can't include songs from the Post-Rumours era. The list could be longer...)


Stevie
- Storms (ZZZ)
- Beautiful Child (ZZZZZ)
- When I see you again (it's not too bad, but it's not her best song, for sure)
- No questions asked (eww)
(The same for Stevie. I can't talk about her Post-Rumours songs... :distress:)


Lindsey
- Caroline
- That's enough for me (Oh God why...)
(And nothing else.)

holidayroad 03-31-2013 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by elle (Post 1083756)
surprised how many dislike Save Me A Place... but totally agree with that. :D :p


my list of LB songs that i dislike would include:
What's The World Coming To
Say Goodbye
That's All For Everyone
Family Man
Save Me A Place

I don't mind the verses in SMAP, but I hate the chorus So much (at least the Tusk version)!

Dragonfly 03-31-2013 02:39 PM

I wasn't going to include BTM songs but it makes things much easier!

Lindsey

That's Enough For Me
Book of Love
Can't Go Back
Eyes Of The World (although quite like it live)
What's The World Coming To

Stevie

Paper Doll
Freedom
Affairs of The Heart
The Second Time
Silver Girl

Chris

As Long As You Follow
Skies The Limit
Save Me
Temporary One
Do You Know

redbird 04-01-2013 06:38 PM

For me the worst thing about the post-Rumours/BTM/early 90s/whatever era is the production. It makes Fleetwood Mac sound fatally bland, IMO. But I genuinely like some of the songs underneath that production, especially Chris' "Behind the Mask" and Stevie's "Freedom" (I also like Bekka's "Dreaming the Dream" but I didn't ask about her here). I would love to have live versions of some of the better songs, but since that era is like the black sheep it'll never happen I guess.

It's so funny, when I was 12 and listening to my mom's Greatest Hits '88 CD (not knowing anything about all the schisms) I looooved "No Questions Asked" :laugh: Certainly more than "As Long As You Follow".

redbird 04-01-2013 09:23 PM

At the risk of causing feedback bias the stats junkie in me took a look at opinions so far.

Lindsey's most disliked songs have the least consensus (opinions are more diffuse). The top 76% of his most disliked songs are comprised of 16 different songs. 32 different songs were named, vs 28/27 for Chris/Stevie.

The top 68% of Christine's most disliked songs includes 12 different songs and the top 82% includes 17 (there's no in-between since the five songs that make the difference there are all tied).

Stevie's most disliked songs definitely have the most consensus. The top 72% of Stevie's most disliked songs includes 10 different songs. The top five most disliked Stevie songs get almost exactly 50% of her songs' votes, and her #5 most disliked song has more votes than Christine's #1 most disliked song, and only one less vote than Lindsey's #1 most disliked song.

LB
10 - Empire State
9 - Family Man
7 (5) - Red Rover, Come, Oh Diane, What's the World Coming To, That's Enough For Me
6 (4) You And I pt 2, Make Me a Mask, Can't Go Back, Not That Funny
5 (5) - My Little Demon, Murrow Turning Over..., Book of Love, That's All For Everyone, Save Me a Place
4 (2) - Caroline, Teen Beat

CM
8 (2) - Only Over You, Honey Hi
7 - Skies the Limit
6 (4) - Mystified, Never Make me Cry, Oh Daddy, Sugar Daddy
5 (2)- Warm Ways, Save Me
4 (3) - Never Forget, I Do, Temporary One

SN
13 - Welcome to the Room
12 - When I See You Again
9 (2) - No Questions Asked, The Second Time, Silver Girl
6 - Illume
5 (3) - That's Alright, Paper Doll, Affairs of the Heart
3 - Running Through the Garden

This is given 26 participants, not all of whom have listened to all the same records, not all of whom are necessarily operating on the same criteria for "least favorite".

(On a personal note, I'm pretty surprised about "That's Enough For Me" and to an extent "Not That Funny" as I always thought that Tusk is considered Lindsey's apogee, but I suppose it's more polarizing than I assumed? Also kind of surprised about "Honey Hi", it seems pretty inoffensive to me at worst, I wonder what makes it worse than so many other Chris songs. I'm going to pretend not to see "That's Alright" on this list at all.)


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