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WildHearted 03-17-2013 12:31 AM

Mick's putting out a new autobiography
 
http://nickslive.blogspot.com/2013/0...scheduled.html

Apparently it's set to release in October.

Hope no one quits the band this time. :lol:

Villavic 03-17-2013 06:58 AM

Is this new, or is this a reprint and update of his early 90's book "My Life and Adventures in Fleetwood Mac"?

Well I guess it is probably the same book for the episodes already covered in the first one, plus new chapters about the 90s and 2000s. Like "Fleetwood Mac: The First 30 Years" is an update of "Behind the Masks", as Bob Brunning said.

Anyway I would buy the book. I'd like to read what Mick has to say about these 20 last years.

Dragonfly 03-17-2013 11:28 AM

I'm guessing certain chapters from the old version will be vastly different this time around?;)

Villavic 03-17-2013 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Dragonfly (Post 1082478)
I'm guessing certain chapters from the old version will be vastly different this time around?;)

I was going to say "I hope but I don't think so", cause I found difficult Mick would take the effort to review and add more info.

But you know, it makes sense he would... cause probaby he will substract those episodes that annoyed the other members. I just hope he will add more interesting info about Mirage production, and other 80s episodes.

FierySequences 03-17-2013 01:46 PM

hmmm I am wary about this. Although I would love to hear Mick's take on the past 20 years, I am perplexed that (like Rumours reissues)(in concert and CD)...why would he not want to tell the story in a different format. Movie, Musical, stage production?

Just seems to me that Mick (if he can't record new FM material) is content with the same rehashing of old concert staples and biography info.

This is just Another form of "milking it" IMO

michelej1 03-17-2013 01:53 PM

I don't really want to read any more commentary on things that were in the first book, but if he can give us new information about things that happened within the band after they reconvened for Clinton to the present, I guess I will cherish it.

If all they do is rehash what's in magazine articles we already have, I will do serious damage to that drum vest!

Michele

vivfox 03-17-2013 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1082494)
If all they do is rehash what's in magazine articles we already have, I will do serious damage to that drum vest!

That's how he did the research for the first book.The new book will contain excerpts from all the magazine clippings from back then to the present. Heck he'll probably even quote various statements from us Ledgies!

Villavic 03-17-2013 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1082559)
That's how he did the research for the first book.The new book will contain excerpts from all the magazine clippings from back then to the present. Heck he'll probably even quote various statements from us Ledgies!

Well I think many people who doesn't write journals may look for help in articles. Memory betrays us often. Mick's book is very good written, better than Bob's (a book also fed with articles). But of course an additional personal info is needed.

Macfanforever 03-17-2013 10:23 PM

Wow a new book "My Life and Adventures in Fleetwood Mac Volume 2.

Mick probably just update his original book but we will see.

louielouie2000 03-17-2013 11:03 PM

If we really think about it, there has been a pretty good amount of big events that have gone down with Fleetwood Mac since Mick's book has been published that I feel we don't have firm answers on, or that the Rumours folks have skirted/brushed over to varying degrees. I'd like to know more about the Rumours reunion for the Clinton inauguration, what went on behind the scenes/how was it pulled off? I still feel like we're missing some pieces on how the Dance reunion came together, too. Same goes for Christine's departure. Obviously we know almost nothing of Mick's recent divorce from his wife Lynn. I want to know more about his & John's decision to relocate to Hawaii. If John still is an avid sailor. And perhaps one of the most pressing question on us hardcore Mac fans minds: the story behind Bob Welch being locked out of the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame. For that matter, it'd be interesting to have Mick's collective thoughts on members of the Mac family passing away- Judy Wong, Bob Welch, and Bob Brunning. And how/why those people (amongst others who are still living) were reportedly shoved out from the Rumours folks lives. Mick also seems to have stopped talking about Peter Green & other pre '75 members; what's going on behind the scenes there? I'd love to see a narrative on the Time era. In their own way, the past 2 decades of Mac history have been just as eventful as the 2 decades before them.

michelej1 03-18-2013 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1082571)
If John still is an avid sailor.

I think the answer to that is yes, based on Mick's alluding to John being on his boat during one of the recent spat of interviews.

I agree that a lot has happened in 23 years that Mick could give us good insight on. He just has to be willing to do that. If he just wants to earn a few quick bucks and he and his co-writer are mostly interested in knocking something off quick, it will be very disappointing, because there's such a potential wealth of information to be divulged.

Of course, whatever we get, we know that Mick's not going to tell the whole truth. For instance, even if he threw Christine under the bus to Wendy Welch, he's not going to do that in print, I don't think. He's not crazy. He just looks it.

Still, he'll give fans something to argue about for the next twenty years, if he and his writer do this thing right.

Michele

michelej1 03-18-2013 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1082561)
Well I think many people who doesn't write journals may look for help in articles. Memory betrays us often. Mick's book is very good written, better than Bob's (a book also fed with articles). But of course an additional personal info is needed.

Use them to assist your own personal recollections. Don't quote them verbatim. A good rule of thumb is that if you already see it quoted in Rolling Stone magazine, then don't repeat what Rolling Stone already said, give us that behind the scenes view that hasn't made it into print yet.

Michele

Wendy Welch 03-24-2013 11:39 PM

Bob Welch's book
 
Mick's will be written by a ghost writer and whitewashed like the last one. But Bob has written a book in his own words, that is quite fascinating. When I get through with Bob's estate, I will be working hard to get it out. You will all learn things that Mick would never say. The truth and nothing but the truth and the whole truth.

I just may compete with Mick's as I already have interest and am working on it as we speak.

HomerMcvie 03-24-2013 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Wendy Welch (Post 1083522)
Mick's will be written by a ghost writer and whitewashed like the last one. But Bob has written a book in his own words, that is quite fascinating. When I get through with Bob's estate, I will be working hard to get it out. You will all learn things that Mick would never say. The truth and nothing but the truth and the whole truth.

I just may compete with Mick's as I already have interest and am working on it as we speak.

I would love to read it Wendy, and would buy it in a minute.

As far as Mick's "stories" of FM, he would never do anything to wreck any future that FM has...thus we're stuck with his "drama queen" tales.

SteveMacD 03-25-2013 12:10 AM

I wanna read about Bekka.

The Catdancer 03-25-2013 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1083524)
I would love to read it Wendy, and would buy it in a minute.

As far as Mick's "stories" of FM, he would never do anything to wreck any future that FM has...thus we're stuck with his "drama queen" tales.

I agree with this because Mick doesn't want to piss anybody off that is still in the band. And even though Christine left he doesn't want to get on her bad side because what if she comes back like Lindsey did? He knows that a tour with Christine will sell out in a heartbeat or an album with her will fly off the shelves. Big $$$ to be made there...

jbrownsjr 03-25-2013 08:45 AM

A book by Bob Welch would be awesome. I love that period anyway! Plus, I'm sure it covers life after FM.

Conga 03-25-2013 06:42 PM

would HAVE been awesome, more like.

Yeah, I love that period of time too. Future Games and Mystery to Me are two top-five Mac albums for me.

Wendy Welch 03-29-2013 10:49 PM

Bekka
 
Bekka is one of the most incredible singers I have ever heard, as was her mother. But how could anyone fill Stevie Nick's shoes. It was her worst career decision in her life. She could have been huge on her own had she not tried to do that.\

Bob's book will tell so much more of the truth and you will be shocked. And it's in his own words, at least 15 chapters he wrote before he died.

SteveMacD 03-30-2013 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Wendy Welch (Post 1084185)
Bekka is one of the most incredible singers I have ever heard, as was her mother. But how could anyone fill Stevie Nick's shoes. It was her worst career decision in her life. She could have been huge on her own had she not tried to do that.\

What's funny is that a lot of people wondered how a certain American guitarist could possibly fill the shoes of Peter Green in 1971. But, he was so different, it took on a life of its own, and the band embraced the difference and gave it time to develop. I've always felt the same way about the Stevie-Bekka thing. Just as the only thing Bob had in common with Peter Green is that he was a man who sang, wrote songs, and played guitar, the only thing Stevie and Bekka have in common is that they're female. Completely different styles. Where the band went wrong with Bekka is that they didn't embrace those differences and didn't give it time to develop.

I've had a soft spot for her since 1992, but was already a fan of her folks. I was happy she was in and Stevie was out. By her own recent admission, Stevie had a lot of bad nights before 1997. Stevie was really at her worst when Bekka came into the picture, so Bekka was a very welcomed addition for me.

I don't know how truthful she was being, but I've read that Bekka really didn't want to be huge and turned down a lot of big offers over the years.

johnnystorms 03-30-2013 01:43 AM

yeah,
but by that time, Stevie was firmly established as the STAR of Fleetwood Mac. As big as Peter Green was, they never had a platinum album, much less 20x platinum before Stevie. So thinking that any woman stepping onstage in her place, while she was still in her own career, was a miscalculation at best.

SteveMacD 03-30-2013 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnystorms (Post 1084193)
yeah,
but by that time, Stevie was firmly established as the STAR of Fleetwood Mac. As big as Peter Green was, they never had a platinum album, much less 20x platinum before Stevie.

Yes, but Peter had all but one of the early Mac hit singles. He was pretty much the sole star of the band. While Stevie was the star, it was Christine, who was still with the band, that had the most hits on those 20x platinum records with Stevie.

Quote:

So thinking that any woman stepping onstage in her place, while she was still in her own career, was a miscalculation at best.
OTOH, the alt.country/Americana movement was in full swing. It wouldn't have been platinum records, but they could have found a niche audience and grown that...again, like they had done before in 1971.

johnnystorms 03-30-2013 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1084196)
Yes, but Peter had all but one of the early Mac hit singles. He was pretty much the sole star of the band. While Stevie was the star, it was Christine, who was still with the band, that had the most hits on those 20x platinum records with Stevie.


OTOH, the alt.country/Americana movement was in full swing. It wouldn't have been platinum records, but they could have found a niche audience and grown that...again, like they had done before in 1971.

OR, wait 5 yrs... get Stevie back, and have a No. 1 album, sold out tour, and highest selling music DVD of the year.

SteveMacD 03-30-2013 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnystorms (Post 1084197)
OR, wait 5 yrs... get Stevie back, and have a No. 1 album, sold out tour, and highest selling music DVD of the year.

Doing mostly old stuff, resting on past glory, and selling out all the way to the bank. But, since that matters not to me...The better question is what have we gotten since?

I would much rather have seen them develop into an Americana type band with a huge cult following, NOT milking the band's past entirely, and had more albums and affordable shows. Become a working band, again, with its own unique identity. Oh, that's right. It's Mick and John. If Lindsey makes a solo record that tanks, it's praised as being an artistic masterpiece, and Lindsey's above worrying about sales. If Mick and John put out a new Fleetwood Mac that takes the sound in a new direction and it tanks, it's just a pathetic attempt at keeping the band they've had since 1967 together.

Instead, we got a compilation, "Say You Will", ANOTHER live album, TWO repackagings of "Rumours", and a couple of grotesquely overpriced Greatest Hits tours that rehash the same old tired songs.

FierySequences 03-30-2013 01:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1084198)
Doing mostly old stuff, resting on past glory, and selling out all the way to the bank. But, since that matters not to me...The better question is what have we gotten since?

I would much rather have seen them develop into an Americana type band with a huge cult following, NOT milking the band's past entirely, and had more albums and affordable shows. Become a working band, again, with its own unique identity. Oh, that's right. It's Mick and John. If Lindsey makes a solo record that tanks, it's praised as being an artistic masterpiece, and Lindsey's above worrying about sales. If Mick and John put out a new Fleetwood Mac that takes the sound in a new direction and it tanks, it's just a pathetic attempt at keeping the band they've had since 1967 together.

Instead, we got a compilation, "Say You Will", ANOTHER live album, TWO repackagings of "Rumours", and a couple of grotesquely overpriced Greatest Hits tours that rehash the same old tired songs.

I agree with both you Espy, and JohnnyStorms. It would have been much more interesting to see FM evolve once again into an alt/rock/country version w/ Bekka and Billy. Imagine the possibilities. I think they would have still had a core die-hard audience and New fans, as well.

I'm going to Jazz fest and as much as I love BN, I would gladly pay to see a blues/country version of the Mac ala Chris, Bekka, Billy, Vito and MF's blues Band. Refreshing, Yes. Mass Commercial Appeal, No.

Erin 04-06-2013 09:53 AM

I asked Mick about this at the M&G and he had no idea about it, so sounds like a re-release of the old book, so no new material. He did say he was currently thinking about writing something, but it would be more a long the lines of his philosophy on life type of a thing rather than a bio.

He also said he didn't know how it could be re-released as he owns it. Better check with the publisher, Mick.

MacShadowsBall 04-06-2013 12:21 PM

^^Interesting. Might just be a re-release, assuming Mick owns the rights to it? :shrug:

michelej1 04-06-2013 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Erin (Post 1086239)
it would be more a long the lines of his philosophy on life type of a thing rather than a bio.

Mick's philosophy on life. I'm not sure how easy it would be to get a book deal for that one.

Michele


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