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mikephxaz 06-15-2012 04:14 PM

Another Fleetwood Mac tour...Are we happy or not??
 
I now this may be an unpopular opinion but I'm so disapponted with the news of another greatest hits FM tour in 2013...I wish Stevie would gracefully say bye bye to the boys and go solo... Lindseys excesses live now just bore me....I feel that Stevie just walked through the last two FM tours....Shes ALIVE during her solo tours...Any thoughts?:confused:

mezzoforte 06-15-2012 04:17 PM

I'm disappointed not because it's Fleetwood Mac, but because this likely means we won't see any new material. Which means there will probably never be new Fleetwood Mac material.

Looking an the bright side, I'll be giddy at the prospect of seeing them live as soon as I'm over the disappointment. I became a fan right after Unleashed, so I've never seen them in person.

CADreaming 06-15-2012 04:29 PM

I'm happy about it -- but not as happy as I would be if it was BN or FM with new material...

mikephxaz 06-15-2012 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte (Post 1054662)
I'm disappointed not because it's Fleetwood Mac, but because this likely means we won't see any new material. Which means there will probably never be new Fleetwood Mac material.

Looking an the bright side, I'll be giddy at the prospect of seeing them live as soon as I'm over the disappointment. I became a fan right after Unleashed, so I've never seen them in person.

Mezz, thats great for you!! :wavey: I'm an old timer and I've seen them since the Tusk tour and have seen Stevie since The Wild Heart tour....Time is ticking bye and I'm disappointed that there wont be any new material....Stevie seems to let the "boys play" during these last two tours and I'm not interested in hearing Lindsey grunt and groan for two hours...lol...I am happy for you tho...There's a real possibility that they might put some hidden jewels in the setlist...

vivfox 06-15-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mikephxaz (Post 1054664)
I'm an old timer and I've seen them since the Tusk tour and have seen Stevie since The Wild Heart tour.

This is me to a tee.

MacFan92 06-15-2012 04:50 PM

I can see why most aren't too thrilled about the prospect, but I've only been a fan since 2010, so I've never seen them live. And this may be my only ever chance lol.

SteveMacD 06-15-2012 05:12 PM

If they add Hypnotized w/ Stevie on vox, I'd go.

mikephxaz 06-15-2012 05:18 PM

I think I would need to hear Sister of the Moon, Angel and Seven Wonders to be excited about any FM tour

SteveMacD 06-15-2012 05:24 PM

BTW, I can't find any announcement about a tour, or even another hits tour.

All I saw was something about movies on Rhiannon and Goldfish and Ladybug movies, which I've learnd is code for no Fleetwood for 18 months at a minimum.

mikephxaz 06-15-2012 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1054672)
BTW, I can't find any announcement about a tour, or even another hits tour.

All I saw was something about movies on Rhiannon and Goldfish and Ladybug movies, which I've learnd is code for no Fleetwood for 18 months at a minimum.

LOL i had heard Stevie announced it on the red carpet last night for the award ceremony where she inducted Bette Midler for lifetime achievement award

Ghosty 06-15-2012 05:28 PM

I prefer new material to tours. What a bummer. Stevie, being the "prolific songwriter" that she is, should be making more music, not doing more randmom tours with Rod and then Mac with nothing new out. Big, major bummer. : (

UNLESS they use the tour to finally release the IYD documentary, hoping it will stir up interest. Otherwise, totally could care less.

Wonder if Stevie will ask Mac to do any of her IYD songs live?

Sounds silly, but in the 70's-80's it could be fun seeing as many live shows as possible. The songs were not as "old" and been done to death yet, and Stevie's wardrobe and hair and looks changed so often, and her vibe of the songs, it was always something fresh. I just don't feel that any more. So I'd rather have new material. Even with that, they don't play enough of it live when they DO have it, but at least we have the cd at home.

mikephxaz 06-15-2012 05:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghosty (Post 1054675)
I prefer new material to tours. What a bummer. Stevie, being the "prolific songwriter" that she is, should be making more music, not doing more randmom tours with Rod and then Mac with nothing new out. Big, major bummer. : (

UNLESS they use the tour to finally release the IYD documentary, hoping it will stir up interest. Otherwise, totally could care less.

Wonder if Stevie will ask Mac to do any of her IYD songs live?

Sounds silly, but in the 70's-80's it could be fun seeing as many live shows as possible. The songs were not as "old" and been done to death yet, and Stevie's wardrobe and hair and looks changed so often, and her vibe of the songs, it was always something fresh. I just don't feel that any more. So I'd rather have new material. Even with that, they don't play enough of it live when they DO have it, but at least we have the cd at home.

I completely agree with all of this:nod:

SteveMacD 06-15-2012 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Ghosty (Post 1054675)
. Stevie, being the "prolific songwriter" that she is

Prolific my a$$! The guy I work for releases 5 albums a year, and most are at least as good as if not way better than what we wait years for from Stevie and Lindsey a few times a decade if we're lucky.

jellyman10 06-15-2012 06:08 PM

Wow. A few words from Stevie as she passes by on a red carpet and you all know the setlist.

Look, as Mezzo said, there are people who've never seen them at all or not for decades, and it's only June, and who the hell knows what they'll do? Do I have my own wishlist of what I hope will happen? Of course I do. But y'know, if you don't like how it looks when the FM 2013 circus some to your town, don't go. Meantime, could you not pee on my parade? Ta.

KarmaContestant 06-15-2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by jellyman10 (Post 1054679)
Wow. A few words from Stevie as she passes by on a red carpet and you all know the setlist.

Most of us have years of Fleetwood Mac tour experience, and we know all too well that the setlist has barely changed since 1980. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict what they'll be playing next year.

SteveMacD 06-15-2012 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1054681)
Most of us have years of Fleetwood Mac tour experience, and we know all too well that the setlist has barely changed since 1980. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict what they'll be playing next year.

THANK YOU!!!

jellyman10 06-15-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1054681)
Most of us have years of Fleetwood Mac tour experience, and we know all too well that the setlist has barely changed since 1980. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to predict what they'll be playing next year.

Exaggerating much?

More to the point, the lack of generosity towards other fans around here is dismaying sometimes.

Silver Springs 06-15-2012 06:22 PM

I'd rather new material, if I'm honest.

jkmaletic 06-15-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by mikephxaz (Post 1054661)
I now this may be an unpopular opinion but I'm so disapponted with the news of another greatest hits FM tour in 2013...I wish Stevie would gracefully say bye bye to the boys and go solo... Lindseys excesses live now just bore me....I feel that Stevie just walked through the last two FM tours....Shes ALIVE during her solo tours...Any thoughts?:confused:

I agree with all of this. Also, I would take what Stevie said on the red carpet with a grain of gold dust/salt.

michelej1 06-15-2012 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1054677)
Prolific my a$$! The guy I work for releases 5 albums a year, and most are at least as good as if not way better than what we wait years for from Stevie and Lindsey a few times a decade if we're lucky.

Oh no! Steve, I'm not sure that I always knew you worked for RP. I thought you were just an enthusiastic fan. Hmm. Now, I think you should have been putting a disclaimer in all of your posts, detailing your conflict of interest.:laugh:

Michele

Josh2003 06-15-2012 06:31 PM

It'll be the Unleashed tour setlist, with maybe another "surprise" or two thrown in to replace "Storms," "Oh Well," and "Say You Love Me."

Whether or not I go depends on what those surprises are. If tickets are $150 (and that's probably being conservative), I won't be going just to hear them doing Dreams, Rhiannon, GYOW, Gold Dust Woman, Second Hand News, Big Love, Never Going Back Again, Gypsy, Don't Stop, I'm So Afraid, Tusk, The Chain, Silver Springs, Sara, and Stand Back.

If they decide to change it up and give us Sisters of the Moon, Angel, Crystal, Frozen Love, Not That Funny, Don't Let Me Down Again, or any other song that they haven't done on multiple tours over the past 15 years, then I'll certainly be happy to shell out the money to go.

SteveMacD 06-15-2012 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1054687)
Oh no! Steve, I'm not sure that I always knew you worked for RP. I thought you were just an enthusiastic fan. Hmm. Now, I think you should have been putting a disclaimer in all of your posts, detailing your conflict of interest.:laugh:

Nah. I was a fan before I was an "employee" (used very loosely). I'm only part-time now, since my role became more limited due to job and family (as in reconnecting with my birth parents, who are married, and three full biological siblings). I only started working for Bob in March, 2010, when he recruited my GbV tribute band to back him up for a one-off. Then he made me a roadie for GbV after I filled in for Tobin Sprout at rehearsals. It's not every lifetime somebody gets to actually play with their heroes. I just got extremely lucky. BTW, if you Google "Guided By Voices Oslo", you can see me lighting Mitch Mitchell's (NOT the Hendrix drummer) cigarettes. One of my many duties.

SteveMacD 06-15-2012 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by jellyman10 (Post 1054683)
Exaggerating much?

Probably not enough, really.

The only creative set in the past 30 years was the Tango set, but they recycled most of that for the BTM tour.

But really, it's the same basic set, with a few changes here and there. Six or seven tops. "The Chain" will be the first or second song, "Dreams" will follow it, "Go Your Own Way" will end the set, "Don't Stop" will end the encore set, and there will be a fairly quiet final encore song. (Aside from "Dreams," that applies to ALL incarnations from 1982 onward). It's all very, very predictable.

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More to the point, the lack of generosity towards other fans around here is dismaying sometimes.
Who cares? I'm spending my money, or in my case, not spending my money. For what they charge, I'll put on "The Dance" and they'll all be together, or "Live In Boston" and I'll see the current Mac. I'll just skip over the SYW songs and pretend I'm at the show.

Now, if the tour is in 2013 and they do a bunch of songs celebrating the 40th anniversary of Buckingham Nicks and Mystery To Me songs (i.e. Why and Hypnotized), then count me in. Otherwise, I have Fleetwood Mac Live, The Dance, and Live In Boston.

Macfanforever 06-15-2012 09:26 PM

I'm always happy to see the Mac on the road.They could jumble up the setlist with classic tunes which have not played live in a long time.Sisters of the Moon is one tune.
Also like all of us keep praying for new tunes to be recorded.

madeline 06-15-2012 11:08 PM

Well unfortunately I really don't think Stevie will ever sing SOTM again. For one thing she doesn't have the voice for it anymore. And Stevie really doesn't rock out anymore like she use to. And that song get's pretty rocking towards the end. They could do an acoustic version of it. Kind of like the demos we have. But highly unlikely. That might not be a bad idea for a future record for Stevie. Kind of like the Rhiannon she did for the Enchanted box.

Jondalar 06-16-2012 01:04 AM

I don't want another Fleetwood Mac. They are running or have ran out of time.

iamnotafraid 06-16-2012 03:33 AM

I hope they sing Brick House. It's been awhile
since they did that cover. Remember how Stevie
would shake her booty on stage? Ow.

MikeInNV 06-16-2012 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by madeline (Post 1054727)
Well unfortunately I really don't think Stevie will ever sing SOTM again. For one thing she doesn't have the voice for it anymore. And Stevie really doesn't rock out anymore like she use to. And that song get's pretty rocking towards the end. They could do an acoustic version of it. Kind of like the demos we have. But highly unlikely. That might not be a bad idea for a future record for Stevie. Kind of like the Rhiannon she did for the Enchanted box.

But Stevie needs a rocker in that set. Her FM tunes tend to be more mellow. One thing I don't like about the live set is that you basically alternate between Lindsey's crazy guitar theatrics and a sleepy Stevie tune. I don't think it creates a very good flow, and I think Stevie is the one who suffers for it. I guess it wasn't as noticeable when Christine was still around, and there was a wider ranger of song types in the mix. Even though some people don't like it, "Stand Back" absolutely MUST stay in the set, and I think there shoud be at least one other song in there to get Stevie fired up.

Aussie W/Heart 06-16-2012 08:53 AM

I will definatly go to see them if they tour in OZ, Ive only seen them play live 2 times, 77'' & 09. I did enjoy their Unleashed tour, tho im hoping the setlist does NOT include the majority if their greatest hits including Landslide & Dreams:sorry:. I would SO love to hear my fav Stevie/Mac songs such as, Sisters Of The Moon, Beautiful Child, Angel, Storms and Sweet Girl, but not gonna happen:distress:

mitzo 06-16-2012 08:55 AM

If this tour is happening, Stevie will be pretty much 70 years old by the time it is over and the dust settles. Makes me feel that new music beyond that is virtually impossible.

mikephxaz 06-16-2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1054740)
I hope they sing Brick House. It's been awhile
since they did that cover. Remember how Stevie
would shake her booty on stage? Ow.

Aawww those were the good old days....the brick house cover was one of my favorites too but I preferred the 1979 FM tour when the setlist included the disco tribute and Stevie performed Staying Alive while rollerskating across the stage....aaawww the good old days!

David 06-16-2012 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveMacD (Post 1054670)
If they add Hypnotized w/ Stevie on vox, I'd go.

To put it more simply, you're not going.

If Stevie and Lindsey give readings from "Don Juan in Hell," I'd go. (I'm not going, either.)

Christopher 06-16-2012 10:46 AM

I'm indifferent! I'd be MUCH more excited about it obviously if they were also talking about some new music, even an EP - which was discussed w Dave Stewart as a possibility last year. They could knock off 6 songs easily esp. with Dave at the helm co-producing or whatever. That man wastes very little time and could speed up the process. I'm probably dreaming...but one can only hope! I also just don't think Stevie wants to go out and try and sell another new record! She worked very hard in 2011 to promote/sell IYD! Unfortunately for us crazy fans, I'm sure an "Unleashed" type tour is a much easier pill to swallow.:cool:

Macfanforever 06-16-2012 11:10 AM

Thats One of the reasons that I like Dave .He does not waste time in the studio producing music.Unlike the normal bickering and wasting time that FM do in the studio.Now who give a sheet if radio plays new FM tunes.But we use fans are dying to hear new tunes.SYW had great radio airplay with Peacekeeper and SYW in 2003.

WE JUST WANT NEW FM TUNES!

olive 06-16-2012 12:30 PM

[QUOTE=Ghosty;1054675]I prefer new material to tours. What a bummer. Stevie, being the "prolific songwriter" that she is, should be making more music, not doing more randmom tours with Rod and then Mac with nothing new out. Big, major bummer. : (


she toured for 10 years with no new material and the same songs dropping a few along the way because it was too much for her and no one bitched as long as she did Rhiannon , dreams , and Edge of Seventeen .

TakenByTheSky23 06-16-2012 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1054751)
If this tour is happening, Stevie will be pretty much 70 years old by the time it is over and the dust settles. Makes me feel that new music beyond that is virtually impossible.

Stevie won't be 70 years old until 2018. Even if this tour stretches into 2014, she'll still be in her mid t0 late-sixties.

Look, regardless of what Stevie says about FM from time to time, she knows that the band made her career. We all love her solo stuff, and she does have a huge devoted following, but her stuff with FM is what put her on the map as far as the masses are concerned. And she knows it. She has a deeply-rooted love affair with FM. They all do.

That's why I like to think that this tour is not the end of things. Opinions vary wildly on here, but I really do believe that the band will make new music one last time as a swan song...either before the tour (not likely) or afterwards. They know they're not getting any younger, and I really do believe that they care about the band so much that they will discuss or already have discussed their plans for the end of their tenure. They won't fade out like a puny pilot light. And they will NOT end their careers in FM with another greatest hits tour.

I like to think that they are smarter than that and have too much respect for what they have created to just let the band fade out without one more original album. They might not tour to promote it. And if anything, I can see them releasing new material just to satisfy themselves, and then put the band to bed for good. And if they DO end up touring for it, I'll see you all there, bathed in wistful tears.

vivfox 06-16-2012 12:57 PM

[QUOTE=olive;1054766]
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Originally Posted by Ghosty (Post 1054675)
she toured for 10 years with no new material and the same songs dropping a few along the way because it was too much for her and no one bitched as long as she did Rhiannon , dreams , and Edge of Seventeen .

I've been bitching about the sameness in her sets since The Wild Heart Tour.:laugh:

BombaySapphire3 06-16-2012 02:10 PM

Anyone remember when Lindsey said something to the effect that the 2009 tour was supposed to stir up creative juices to make some new music.:shrug:Now he and Stevie did produce some viable new music since then but he was referring to Fleetwood Mac.I really can't be excited about a second "oldies " tour in a row for FM.

Regina 06-16-2012 03:43 PM

I would be happy under certain circumstances:

BuckinghamNicks...leading into FM. Give a good five song 'recap' of their work prior to FM and then do the FM concert.As a bonus, do two new B/N songs. I think it would be a lovely nod to those of us who really wanted a B/N (N/B) tour and wouldn't hurt Mick or John any since they are in it for the paycheck (which, in all honesty, is what the other two are, too, but at least they give the appearance, once in a while, of being in it for artistic/nostalgic reasons).

OR

Do new material (too much to ask for, I know).

OR

Do a Fleetwood Mac oldies tour. BUT, half the set list should be things we either haven't heard live or haven't heard in 20 years, live. Ban Landslide, Big Love, So Afraid and Rhiannon.

So..therefore, in conclusion, I probably won't be happy because none of the above would probably be FM's choice. Will I go?

Yes.

It's interesting because I had a conversation with my brother today. And he went to see some singer I've never heard of. And he didn't like him. Not at all. Why? Because he "sang things I've never heard of instead of his hits." (SHOCKING! I almost wanted to go to this dude's show;-)
So...FM may know what they are doing, from a business standpoint but, it's still tough to swallow when they've been doing this stuff for so, so long.

elle 06-16-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by mikephxaz (Post 1054671)
I think I would need to hear Sister of the Moon, Angel and Seven Wonders to be excited about any FM tour

i would love to hear SOTM (love that screaming guitar!), but other than that the only way i would like an FM tour is if there's no Stevie songs in the set whatsoever. :p

but - i did promise Lindsey that i'll come see him if he adds Walk A Thin Line - if he really must do an FM tour...


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