Buckingham Nicks Reunion Rumblings
 

Lots of Twitter activity today over this:

Lindsey Buckingham Talks Possible Nicks Reunion
The Quietus , May 30th, 2012


In new radio documentary by Pete Paphides, Fleetwood Mac's Lindsey Buckingham says "I would love to work with Stevie [Nicks] again"
Last week, BBC Radio 4 broadcast an episode of Pete Paphides' excellent Follow Up Albums series that told the story of Fleetwood Mac's Tusk, the legendarily fraught follow-up to their massive album Rumours, which spent 30 weeks at No. 1 in the US album chart. Tusk was the third album the band recorded with the legendary duo of Lindsey Buckingham and Stevie Nicks, who had been partners for years and split during their time in the band.

The documentary is great and well worth half an hour of your time - it's on iPlayer until tomorrow, when it's replaced by the next episode - but particularly interesting is the closing section, where Buckingham suggests that he would be keen to record again with Nicks.

When asked by Paphides if he would ever record with her again, he said: "I would love to record with Stevie again. It would be such a circular thing to come back to where you started, and I think it would be magical, because that subplot is so built into the history of Fleetwood Mac. So if you talk to her, put in a good word for me [laughs]. But you already talked to her I guess."


"I did," answers Paphides on the programme, "and she seemed to make all the right noises."

"Oh good - well I have written a bunch of songs," Buckingham replied, "and I do want her to hear them, and I hope that we do [work together again]."

When we spoke to Paphides, he confirmed that when he interviewed Nicks for the programme (in a section that was never broadcast), she had mentioned that Buckingham had been working on some new songs, seemingly with a view to record them together. He had been inspired to do so after the death of Nicks' mother, whom he had known since he and Nicks got together as teenagers. Nicks was apparently due to meet Buckingham the day after Paphides' interview took place. The interview, Paphides explained, was recorded by one of Nicks' staff, and when it was sent back to him that section had been deleted.

These are early and speculative noises, certainly. But if it did happen, it would be quite the comeback: their first Buckingham Nicks recording since their 1973 self-titled album (which was instrumental in them later joining Fleetwood Mac), making for a whopping near-40 year gap.




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Rumours was number one for 31 weeks.I love the idea of Stevie and Lindsey collaborating on new music outside of Fleetwood Mac..plus seeing Mick cut out of the $ on a tour would be the icing on the cake.:lol:

I love everything about this and I hope it's all true and that it all comes to fruition.

Lindsey writing songs after Stevie's mother died... call me a sapp but... :')

*crosses fingers*

Please let this happen, quickly, artistically, organically and without drama.

Um... do you have any idea about who we're dealing with here?

Amid all of this talk about the aftermath of Barbara Nicks' passing, the impact on Lindsey has never come up. It's interesting that he was so moved... almost as if she was a mother-in-law of sorts. Perhaps this is related to what Stevie was intimating back in January about a tribute album to her mother. Could this be the catalyst to a simultaneous new BN album as well as a 40-year anniversary reissue of Buckingham Nicks in digital format? Will the Mayan calendar enable this? Will this be the fifth horse of the apocalypse??

Does this make anyone else as pissed off as it makes me? WTF? Karen??

To borrow words from Lena Dunham,

"What was Karen doing with that tape? Karen needs to stick to scheduling. Karen is a bitch."

If a Buckingham Nicks album is what it takes to get to another Mac album, I'm totally fine with that (I'm still a big fan of the McVie bass line, so I'm holding out hope for more Mac). But it sounds like Lindsey is saying it may be the final of all albums for them? Let's hope that's just romantic speculation from him. :)

Forget Karen. Why did Paphides let his subject control the only copy of the recording? That is some amateur-level journalisting -- no wonder it took him four months to schedule an interview with Lindsey.

Agreed. You wonder if that was a condition of the interview "we get final edit"? Still, agree it's poor journalism to allow that and/or to give the interviewee the only copy of the whole thing.

Just to be clear, I wasn't saying it was Karen, I was asking who the member of Stevie's team it might have been (hence the two question marks after her name). It could just as easily been her PR people or anyone else, or even Stevie herself.

whatever it is, he had better and more direct questions and received better (or at least somewhat different) responses from all of them than any other interviewer did for decades. so i will not complain about Paphides' methodology - it yielded results!

Please. Someone as high profile and who has been around as long as Stevie -- sure they control what gets out there. You've got to be able to use it for you and control it when it goes against you. It's a means to an end. I'd be more curious to see if the journalist ever works in this town again... :lol:

I know of stars asking for all sorts of control over the final product, and I know of journalists granting it -- but giving them control over the actual recording is a new one to me.

One thing that's curious to me -- according to Paphides, in the deleted bit Stevie said she was due to meet Lindsey the next day, and was aware of all the new songs he had written. But in the Lindsey interview, some time after that, Lindsey asks Paphides to put in a good word for him with Stevie, and says he wants her to hear his new songs. So what happened? Did they not meet? Did they meet, but not talk at all about the new songs or the possibility of recording together? Is Paphides bull****ting about what Stevie said in that deleted section of the recording? Was Stevie bull****ting about being due to meet Lindsey the next day? Was Lindsey bull****ting about her not having heard the songs? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a Tootsie Pop? The world may never know (because Karen deleted the part of the tape where Stevie told us).

:lol::lol:

Lindsey already knew the guy had talked to Stevie and Stevie already knew the songs existed and even what inspired them - so doesn't it stand to reason Lindsey had already played the songs for her?

I know, I know -- I wish they would get their stories straight too but they seem to enjoy it so much. For instance, when Stevie was recording IYD, Lindsey downright said he started going down there and hanging out with her and Dave Stewart and even asked did they need anything - then later when Stevie got her press going she twisted the story a little to say she called Lindsey and asked him if he would help on SA and how he was only there for two days -- lest anyone get the idea he had been "hanging out" with her -- because for God's sake he does not do that, remember?! LOL.

So, let's not muddy the waters with particulars because we'll never know anyway. Let's just accept that there are new songs and that the BN are making their way toward doing something useful together. :)

But, if you find out about that Tootsie roll pop let me know. I've been wondering about that since 1977. ;)

In regards to the stories not matching up (is it me, or is this a trend with those two?), I kind of figured it was just Lindsey playing coy and not wanting to give too much away without permission from Stevie or the two of them being on the same page- an attempt to prevent drama, if you will. Especially because of his whole "But you already talked to her, didn't you?" quip, which I kind of took as a what-do-you-already-know type inquisition.

So in my mind it's something like, Lindsey and Stevie obviously had some communication before Stevie's interview, after which they may or may not have met up to discuss further, listen to songs, and whatnot. Then Lindsey does his interview and states his desires but doesn't really give any specifics on what has/hasn't happened so as not to bite the bullet or anything. I think it definitely seems like Lindsey is the primary instigator of this endeavor and he's probably trying to flatter Stevie and play nice with her so he stays on her good side... and I think he knows what he's doing... I can imagine the inflection in her voice when she told Paphides how Lindsey was inspired by her mother and how they've known each other since they were teenagers etc.

Okay, all I saw was that Lindsey would like to do another record with with Stevie. I DON'T see anything remotely suggesting that it would be as Buckingham Nicks, not Fleetwood Mac.

Wow, yeah. I think Lindsey just is ready for BN anyway, death or not, Stevie did say that both of her parents adored Lindsey and in talking about AHI Barbara Nicks also said that after his own father died due to heart problems, Lindsey became closer to them. Now, by the time MB died, Lindsey and Stevie weren't even living near the Nicks' anymore, but whatever the time frame, I guess there was probably a point where Lindsey did hang around her parents' house a lot.

Stevie said her dad loved to hear their demos and Javier said that when they were in Fritz while Lindsey's mom would give them lemonade when he visited, Stevie's mom would ask the boys why they weren't in Vietnam, when they came round to get her daughter. The kids probably got on her nerves, but the way she went to Lindsey's concerts when he was in town when she was in her eighties, I gathered that she loved him. I mean, she'd go to a couple of concerts per tour, not just one obligatory appearance. For his part, I guess even aside from his affection for her, her passing just brings all these feelings of mortality out. He's in the next generation to go. I can see why the event would inspire someone to write songs. I bet Stevie has written a lot of poetry herself, lately.

Michele

Yes, this reminds me of Destiny Rules when he starts crying and turns his chair away from her as she looks on and twirls her hair. He is ACTING and working her. Between him and Mick this girl gets worked like crazy. I don't know how she still manages to stand. He probably went into his attic and got some 1997 thing from the original Gift of Screws and told her he created it the night she called and told him about Barbara passing on.

As for deleting that part of the interview, if they had info in there that they didn't want to let out of the bag yet, I fully understand. At least we got a little good gossip.

Michele

I love the idea of Stevie and Linds working together again, but ,sorry to burst anyone's bubble, even if they start a project out as BuckinghamNicks, it will inevitably be turned into Fleetwood Mac. You know for a fact that Mick would show up at their doorstep with some puppy dog look on his face begging to be a part of it. And even if Stevie and Lindsey had enough willpower to say no to him, there are many more powers that control things other than Stevie and Lindsey. Stevie Nicks took the advice of her management and chose not to record a solo album in 2005, it would be even easier for them to convince her to make a BN album a Mac album. These two won't/can't rerelease the original album! At BEST they may record something "BuckinghamNicks" and then tour with Fleetwood Mac to support it.

You may be right and I like this just fine. As long as we get new music I don't care what they call themselves. Except for the fact that BN concert tickets would be cheaper for me to buy, I would prefer to have them tour with FM anyway and I want John and Mick to have money. SnL are the frontmen anyway, so I'll still see the two of them doing whatever it is they do together.

Michele

With Christine gone, I don't get why it matters to Stevie or Lindsey fans if it's Fleetwood Mac or Buckingham Nicks at this point. In my mind, BN's "Crystal" almost sounds like a demo compared to FM's. And BN's live "Rhiannon" was no match for FM. John McVie and Mick Fleetwood were the best thing to ever happen to them.

At this point I'd disagree. If there were to be a
Buckingham Nicks Tour or just some new music,
I wish they'd do it without the rest of the Mac. You
know, go out like you came in.*


*does not include wrinkles, lbs, loss of hair etc...

It matters to me because I'd like to see a full show with just Stevie & Lindsey & no back-up musicians. All acoustic guitar. That's a far cry from the overcrowded stage of recent Mac tours.

- Jake

This would be amazing. I do agree that 'Say You Will' was essentially BN 2 with an awesome rhythm section, and also that it would possibly/probably morph into FM... or at the very least, Mick and John would 'guest' on it (which would be great!)
BUT if it's successful, it might FINALLY pave the way for BN to be released, and at the very least we might get some of those songs live (on the assumed follow up tour, I mean...)
Anyway, I'd be thrilled with something new from them - whomever it ends up being credited to!

A Buckingham Nicks reunion means Buckingham Nicks songs - and not just one or two thrown into a Fleetwood Mac set list, please.

I could even handle more new stuff in the vein of SA. That's a very nice start.

This would be ideal but this is Stevie Nicks and Lindsey Buckingham we are dealing with here. They'd play their usual set lists with maybe two new songs thrown in and we'll still grumble about it like we always do. Of course some of the fans we'll complain about us complaining and state how happy they would be if they sing whatever they want or just sing the phone book for all they'd care.

Even better would be the original band they had. give or take one or two..

Well stated.

How about only 2 FM songs...

The rest B/N and selected solo pieces from each member. Imagine Bella Donna with LB on guitar, or Don't Look Down w/ Stevie.

They could really use some imagination here.

No, I don't know. It wasn't nearly as good.

I don’t see how the whole “mini-Mac” thing is the fault of Mick or John.

The back-up singers are Stevie’s; always have been.

Lindsey’s the one who has canned backing vocals and instrumentation at his solo shows (i.e. “Down On Rodeo”), which has made its way into Fleetwood Mac shows (i.e. “Go Insane”). Also, he’s the one who wanted all of the extra musicians.

When the “Time” band toured, they had Mick, John, Billy, Bekka, Dave, and Steve Thoma (who was sitting in for Christine, who was still in the band, just not touring).

When Mick toured with Rick Vito, it was as a warts and all quartet.

It’s Stevie and Lindsey who muddy up the waters with the whole mini-Mac thing. They’re the ones who want the songs to sound just like the record live, not Mick or John.
How do you know that Mick and John are the reasons more BN songs aren't in the set? IIRC, it was John McVie's idea to record "Crystal" on the white album.
Yeah, they COULD, but they WON'T.

In any event, nobody has answered where it stated that whatever might be released would be as Buckingham Nicks.

It'll never happen. There's WAY more money to be made as Fleetwood Mac. If there wasn't, they would have done a "Buckingham Nicks II" album years ago.

I thought the whole thing gave off an overwhelming implication of BN... for instance, Lindsey saying he wanted it to come full circle, so they could go out the same way they came in - as Buckingham Nicks, not Fleetwood Mac.

Not to mention that Lindsey has been specifically mentioning the BN album, and the possibility of doing something with just Stevie again all throughout the promotion of SWS, so this just ties right along in with that.

:shrug: I don't see that I said anything of the sort. All I posted is that I want two singers & one guitar on the stage, which would give a very different vibe from recent Mac shows.

- Jake

See, I've always read that as he'd like to approach the writing process like they did as Buckingham Nicks, which wasn't the case on SYW, which was basically her songs plastered on what had been his solo album. However, I'd be willing to bet that whatever they release together will be as part of Fleetwood Mac.

The way I've read that is that more of a "We're going to do another Fleetwood Mac tour without an album, so we're going to reissue the BN album and tour behind the reissue with Fleetwood Mac, and then, hopefully, we'll make a new record."

Yes! And that is exactly why I made my wish!

a new Buckingham Nicks album... sure it will contain several interesting songs.

a new Fleetwood Mac album (Say you will lineup)... sure it will contain several interesting songs.

The same songs for sure :nod:. Then I choose the Fleetwood Mac album

Although doing a new Fleetwood Mac would seem to be the most obvious thing to do from a commercial standpoint, I think a sparer, folkier-sounding album in the vein of the original Buckingham Nicks may actually be even more commercially appealing in this day and age. Rock and roll, namely the big-time arena brand of rock and roll, is dead. But bands like Bon Iver, Wilco, The Fleet Foxes, Mumford and Sons, Robert Plant & Alison Krauss, etc., are in this post-rock vein that kinda resembles country at times without copping to the twangy, chicken-fried schmaltz being churned out by Nashville these days. It is its own kind of quiet rebellion against the synthetic, computerized din of modern pop music and these acts have been very successful commercially as album artists. I think a spare, rootsy album using the song "Storms" as a sonic template (maybe even containing a cover or two) by Stevie and Lindsey could be a sleeper hit.

In any case, regardless of whether they are working on BN, FM or solo albums, I will be happy no matter what. Just as long as they keep writing, recording and performing.

A new Buckingham Nicks album would be very cool. The label might not like it that much, though, because Fleetwood Mac is their big product instead.
Yet, a Buckingham Nicks reunion could spare us Stevie's conditions for her participation in a FM reunion: either Sheryl Crow or another new 2nd female lead singer or an outside producer.

Mick Fleetwood must beat those drums hard at the sheer thought of it but who knows.

You're right on point here! FM or BN need an "outside their norm" Tusk II rebooted if you will, rootsy, not overly polished record! From the folkier new artists you listed all the way to old timers having astonishing to admirable success (Lionel Richie & Bonnie Raitts' new cd's) - the latter of which interestingly is still hanging in the Top 40 nearly 2 months after its release, selling steadily & has probably out sold Stevies' IYD 2 to 1 by now, are all indicators that Stevie & Lindsey need to go back to their roots. Full circle.

But somehow I can't help but be cynical and expect that they will tour 2013 without any new material whatsoever:distress:. Just another cash grab tour:(!
With any luck, Hopefully they (Stevie & Lindsey) are still creatively motivated regardless of outcome to record something. However Micks gonna be chomping at the bit to hit the road sooner than later, over spending up to a year in the studio recording, esp since he has less incentive financially, add in his current state of affairs! This is a big tangled messy sticky web they've weaved.

And the rumours are flying...

As much as I would love to have a Buckingham Nicks, Nicks and Buckingham re-release I just don't think that they could handle spending that much time together. Lindsey seems to talk a lot about wanting to have some sort of miracle to happen where he can finally have closure. Stevie just doesn't trust him, she becomes very defensive and keeps her guard up. Stevie gets stressed out and hasn't fully enjoyed the past two Mac tours. She has forgiven lots of her ex lover's and maintained friendship's, but with Lindsey I believe she has forgiven but not forgot. The lyrics to 'You May Be The One' describe the time after the SYW recordings. It's just too much water under that bridge. But it seems very important to Lindsey so who knows?

I agree, but, that could just as easily be done in the context of Fleetwood Mac. Just listen to Kiln House, Future Games, and Bare Trees for proof. Mick and John are just players working with what they're given.