Little Lies Video, Date And Place?
 

Any of you Macamaniacs know the date
and place the Little Lies video was filmed?

Stevie looked spectacular in this video. How much
time had elapsed since her Red Rocks video shoot?

I don't know, but because the steering wheel was on the "wrong" side in that car and due to the Rover truck, some people thought it was filmed in England.

Michele

I didn't notice that. I'm going to
check out that video again.

Rolls Royce, I should say, not to disparage the stately vehicle by calling it a car.

Michele

I just watched it and I think it's an RR too.
Though I think(?) that some of them are shipped
to other countries with that wrong side steering
wheel. So does that make it less likely that it was
filmed in England? I'm not sure about the truck in
the barn. But those fences don't look particularly
U.S. like. So back to England???

Really? I always thought she looked... old? :shrug:

She looked better in Seven Wonders (and Big Love)... ;)

Old??? What that heck?
Though I think she was
gorgeous in the Seven
Wonders video. Right
off hand I can't remember
how she looked in the Big
Love video.

:laugh: Yep. Old.

:shocked:
I'll give you Seven Wonders, but no way on Big Love. Big Love has the worst lighting of any Mac video other than Save Me. They all look bad in it.

I love the profile shot of Stevie in the Little Lies video. And the shot of each member sort of morphing into the next one through the cracks in the wall. It's just a great video all around, IMO.

- Jake

Wasn't Little Lies the last video with Lindsey? I know Seven Wonders was filmed in the first week of June, and everyone looks pretty much identical in the Little Lies video so I would guess it was filmed shortly after that?

I can't remember the order in which those
videos were released, except for Big Love
being first out of the gate.

I've been transferring VHS to DVD and Little Lies
was on one of the tapes. That's what got me to
wondering about the date it was filmed.

I remember seeing Little Lies and Big Love
on Friday Night Videos (NBC) quite a bit, especially
Little Lies. But I never saw Seven Wonders on anything
but Entertainment Tonight as the credits rolled.

So June 1987 for the date of Little Lies?
BTW, since the album was released in April of
'87 it's 25 years old. Happy birthday Tango!

What a perfect opportunity it would be for the band to re-release a special 2-disc 25th anniversary edition Tango In The Night with the entire album remixed and updated and all the B-Sides and remixes on the second disc. Alas...

Matt

Absolutely! :thumbsup: This may sell especially well in the UK/Europe since that album was massive over here.

Carol Ann Harris mentioned working on the video in her book, I believe. I don't remember if she said the location.

I always thought it was massive here in the USA too. Those singles could be heard everywhere.

I thought she said Save Me, which caused everyone to point out that Lindsey wasn't even there for Save Me. I think she then corrected the name of the video somewhere else, so maybe Little Lies was the correction.

Certainly there have been no stories about them going to the UK to shoot a video, so it's interesting if they did. They probably didn't. Just looking at clues in the video, it would be nice to think they did.

Michele

I love the Little Lies video. Despite the video generally makes no sense and having nothing to do with the song, I really love the setting. And the little fading in and out effect they had going on.

I think everyone looks absolutely STUNNING. In fact I think Stevie looks better in LL than she does in Seven Wonders (and Big Love was kind of a cinematic disaster, they all looked busted sooo).

Tango was kind of a slow burn hit here in the US.Even though the first single Big Love made the top 5 the album only peaked at no. 7 Billboard which I thought was strange since Mirage had occupied the number one spot for 5 weeks.Tango had more hit singles however which kept it bouyant in the charts longer so it eventually sold more than Mirage here in the states.

I love the pastoral setting. You're right the video has nothing to do with the song or with anything we associate with the band, but that's part of what makes it work for me. It seems to be from a different period and they have an innocence, tranquility and leisurely air that is bittersweet, given their imminent parting.

If I could turn the page . . . I wouldn't. I'd keep it there and make that moment last longer.

Michele

Its setting reminds me of all the film footage of the much earlier band in and around Benifols out in the English countryside.

Michele is letting her guard down.
I like what you wrote.

I love the Little Lies video and always thought Stevie looked great in it and wouldn't have changed a thing. To me it's a beautifully made video, what they done with it. :nod:

And I have always loved the artwork on the Tango In The Night album cover. That's such a beautiful painting.

I think it's their best video. And like you I think it was
beautifully made. About the only things I'd change would
be (time machine) to tell Lindsey not to shave his eyebrows
so close. And for Mick not to use so much makeup.

Never paid much attention to Lindsey's brows in it. As for Mick wearing makeup back then, I think it suited him and was just Mick being Mick back then and onstage with it. I assumed he has done that for years? For dramatic and artistic effect.

I was just watching VH1's totally 80's show and little lies came on. I remember when the video was released and it was a big hit. I doubt they flew to England to film a video. The farm looks American and movie sets will always have classic cars. I think everyone looks really good in the video. Now they all look SO YOUNG.

But I disagree that the video makes no sense. The video makes total sense if you know what the song is about. Chris wrote the song about Lindsey. In an interview in 1987 she stated that she secretly knew Lindsey was going to leave the band but was staying on to finish the album. But Lindsey never was saying anything. It was her intuition. He never came out and said he was leaving but would drop little hints. So that became the little lies. " We are better off apart, lets give it a try." "Tell me tell me lies." "You cant disguise, no you cant disguise" So apparently during the tense Tango sessions in Lindsey's garage studio it was apparent to Chris that Lindsey's days were numbered. He never came out and said, I am leaving so he sort of told little lies about to continue working with the band. In Mick's book, Mick stated that Lindsey threw in his face that he did the album for him and did not need to tour to get him out of bankruptcy and he did his part with the album.
Now the video: The video is all about Lindsey. You see him walking away and then disappearing over and over. Every time Chris sings a verse the camera goes right to Lindsey. This video was his last official act with the band in 1987. Little Lies had just popped into the top 40 and this video released when it was announced that Lindsey left the band.

wow thanks for super , clear explanation of Little Lies and the Vid too.
Now if I can get Youtube to play??? I'll watch Little Lies with greater meaning
thanks

Do they ever play the Hold Me and Gypsy videos on VH1 classic?


Also I always thought Little Lies was about a failing relationship and both people know it's not working out but they keep telling "little lies" to make the other person believe they're happy or going to work it out, but they truly know it will end. I guess it makes sense in the Lindsey leaving the band context as well. I wish he stuck it out for the tour though. I find the live videos from 1987-88 very difficult to watch without Lindsey, especially when they play songs like The Chain or Gold Dust Woman or World Turning.

Stevie and Christine both look very good in all three Tango videos, especially the Seven Wonders video. Christine looks really good in the Hold Me video.

I remember the Everywhere video being stupid. Little Lies is great, since the farm theme captures the longing of the song. Only bad thing about it is how awful Lindsey is at convincingly lip-synching. He looks like he's chewing juicy fruit rather than singing his lines.

Gypsy has to be one of the all-time greatest music videos. So fantastic, the colors, the story, Stevie twirling...it's pretty epic, definitely on the level of Michael Jackson's 80s videos.

Yeah the Everywhere video could have been way better. Also why are only John, Mick, and Christine in that video?

I vaguely recall the video being filmed in Northern California, near the windmills.

Corbis credits California, USA as the location of the video shoot.

I haven't seen the videos in a long time, but isn't Lindsey in Seven Wonders? Aren't they performing it on a soundstage, and isn't that the one where Lindsey goofs around with the hat on his head and cracks Stevie up??

I've never understood why 'Tango in the Night' only ever reached #7 on the Billboard 200 as there were a few big singles and there was decent promotion.

That's a fair question. Back in 1987 there was a different calculation for music charts. Just like recently they changed the chart calculation to not only go by store sales, online downloads, but also videos played on youtube. While it only reached #7 it is Fleetwood Mac's second best selling album. That says a lot !
When Tango was released it jumped on the chart and Big Love went way up to #5 quickly. But the second single Seven Wonders sort of took the momentum from the album. Seven Wonders barely made the top 20 at #19. Tango fell from it's top 7 spot and never recovered top ten status again. Tango's third single raced up the charts and even did one better than Big Love and charged at #4. But the album Tango just stayed lower on the charts. By the time Everywhere was released Tango continued to fall down the chart even though Everywhere peaked at #14. This was early 1988 and the Mac was off touring Europe. No tours or promotion left to do in the USA.
Long story short, I suppose if they rearranged the singles Tango could have had a better chart history. But take this even further. Look at Stevie's Rock A Little one year earlier. She had a #1 with Bella Donna and a #5 Wild Heart. But I think Rock a Little never cracked the top ten ever. Rock a Little peaked only at #12. So the Mac album Tango did much better than Stevie's Rock a Little. The tide had swung the other way finally ;)

I can sorta remember hearing that the little lies video was filmed somewhere in Vermont or New Hampshire. and being from New Hampshire that always kinda stuck with me.

Yes it is. He duck walks past Stevie and she has a smile on her face as if to say, "he's silly, but adorable." Then she ruffles his hair. I've never seen Lindsey look more appealing than he does in that video.

Michele

Not according to this quote. http://www.songfacts.com/detail.php?id=3978

I would love to know the source from that quote. Some of those song interpretation sites are purely fan speculation. I will look for the Tango promotion radio special when Christine relates Little Lies about Lindsey not being upfront about leaving the band.
But clearly songs are mashed together from different experiences. Clearly some of the lyrics do portray some sort of break up. But little lies? That sort of does not fit that mold. I still would rather believe what I heard Chris say in her own words rather some quote I read somewhere that I never heard her say.

I love everything about this. I love that he did it, I love that she didn't stop singing and ruin the take, and I love that they left it in.

Here is a demo of Little Lies. No lyrics yet about any relationship (yet). Chris had the little lies, tell me little lies part down for the entire demo.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uWar8ggX_Q