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MacFan92 02-12-2012 08:50 PM

Grammy Awards 2012
 
Anyone else watching it?

Villavic 02-12-2012 09:22 PM

Beach Boys !!! Right Now!!!!!

MacFan92 02-12-2012 10:05 PM

Get ready for Adele! :]

Macfanforever 02-12-2012 10:07 PM

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Originally Posted by MacFan92 (Post 1039670)
Get ready for Adele! :]

She's on now.Rolling in the Deep.

Macfanforever 02-12-2012 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Villavic (Post 1039668)
Beach Boys !!! Right Now!!!!!

They were great .

Macfanforever 02-12-2012 10:12 PM

Up next my friend Taylor will be up with a salute to Glen Campbell.

Macfanforever 02-12-2012 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1039673)
Up next my friend Taylor will be up with a salute to Glen Campbell.

That was a great performance He did great at 75 years old.

MacFan92 02-12-2012 10:31 PM

He did awesome. I hope Adele wins Album and Record of the Year. Looking good for her as she's one every other award she's been nominated for tonight.

tilthefirefades 02-12-2012 11:21 PM

First of all I'm not sure why Jennifer Hudson is even relevant enough to be part of any tribute. And also, I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who thinks Adele is the most grossly overrated artist since U2 >.>

Edit: I am now happy with the Grammys, as my favorite Beatles songs were performed xD

Macfanforever 02-12-2012 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by MacFan92 (Post 1039678)
He did awesome. I hope Adele wins Album and Record of the Year. Looking good for her as she's one every other award she's been nominated for tonight.

Yea .she's cleaning house.

Macfanforever 02-12-2012 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 1039681)
First of all I'm not sure why Jennifer Hudson is even relevant enough to be part of any tribute. And also, I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who thinks Adele is the most grossly overrated artist since U2 >.>

Thanks I couldn't think of Jennifer's name.About Adele Let see if she has staying power like our elder artists.Most of these current artist pop up and fizzle out quickly.

Villavic 02-12-2012 11:28 PM

Paul McCartney is still in good shape!
And it's the same band he toured last year, and came to Peru!! :thumbsup:

Jondalar 02-12-2012 11:30 PM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 1039681)
First of all I'm not sure why Jennifer Hudson is even relevant enough to be part of any tribute. And also, I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who thinks Adele is the most grossly overrated artist since U2 >.>

Edit: I am now happy with the Grammys, as my favorite Beatles songs were performed xD

I totally agree. Adele's album is not special. There is nothing super about it. And U2 is mega-overrated. Jennifer Hudson seems like a nice person, but she has not done much musically.

Jondalar 02-13-2012 12:59 AM

on twitter, a lot of people didn't seem to like Niki Minaj "exorcism" skit.

Nico 02-13-2012 01:02 AM

Watched it for Adele.

My girl is FLAWLESS and OWNED the night! :blob1::blob2::nod:

johnnystorms 02-13-2012 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1039671)
She's on now.Rolling in the Deep.

i don't want to aggravate any Adele fans, but the performance seemed lip-synched to me. anyone else agree?

Macfanforever 02-13-2012 03:08 AM

I'm getting a HD version downloading now into my computer.Since my regular tele is very old.

Macfanforever 02-13-2012 03:11 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnystorms (Post 1039702)
i don't want to aggravate any Adele fans, but the performance seemed lip-synched to me. anyone else agree?

I have to rewatch it again.Did Adele had surgery on her vocal cords last year.

RickRobert 02-13-2012 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by johnnystorms (Post 1039702)
i don't want to aggravate any Adele fans, but the performance seemed lip-synched to me. anyone else agree?

Well it's in a different key to the studio version, and if she recorded a new version to lip-sync, I doubt she'd have left in the off notes...

Villavic 02-13-2012 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 1039681)
First of all I'm not sure why Jennifer Hudson is even relevant enough to be part of any tribute.

Watching interviews to the show producers, I understood there wasn't enough time to change radically the program (after learning about Whitney). Jennifer was already set to sing and probably the fatest way to include tributes was... Hey, sing I will always love you instead of this song

vivfox 02-13-2012 09:47 AM

I realize all I have to do is flip on youtube but just off the cuff I'd like to say that I've never heard a song by Adele yet.

McTrouble 02-13-2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1039712)
I realize all I have to do is flip on youtube but just off the cuff I'd like to say that I've never heard a song by Adele yet.

Can't stand her music!

But I'm probably in the minority - for some reason I can't fathom she seems to be adored.

TrueFaith77 02-13-2012 11:11 AM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 1039681)
First of all I'm not sure why Jennifer Hudson is even relevant enough to be part of any tribute. And also, I'm pretty sure I'm the only person who thinks Adele is the most grossly overrated artist since U2 >.>

I am 100% in agreement with EVERYTHING you've said.

Thank you.

Macfanforever 02-13-2012 11:47 AM

Heres the Show .If anyone missed it.


http://rapidshare.com/files/95455140...v.xvid-2hd.avi

bluefox4000 02-13-2012 01:14 PM

Adele's was the big winner......no surprise. I know people think she's overrated. Hell i like her....lol. My big thrill though. Was bon Iver.....WOW:blob2: I just love him. So that win was awesome.

Mick

Nico 02-13-2012 01:32 PM

some thoughts...
 
I adore Bon Iver! I was so pleased about that.

Glen Campbell, though, that was cool.

I really hate offending people, but I was NOT feeling the Beach Boys at all and let me not even express my feelings on Adam Levine.

I loved the last performance by Paul McCartney, but the first one was 'meh.' I'm just not into that song, tbh. I can like some solo Paul from time to time, but there's only a bit I really love.

I can't stand Taylor Swift.

I looked the other way with Nicki Minaj or whatever her name is...dear gawd.

I thought Jennifer Hudson's tribute was very nicely done.

BRUUUUUUCCCCEEE!!!! I love Bruce, and he is a great performer. But that song was 'meh' to me as well.

bluefox4000 02-13-2012 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nico (Post 1039736)
I [i]adore[/i] Bon Iver! I was so pleased about that.

Glen Campbell, though, that was cool.

I really hate offending people, but I was NOT feeling the Beach Boys at all and let me not even express my feelings on Adam Levine.

I loved the last performance by Paul McCartney, but the first one was 'meh.' I'm just not into that song, tbh. I can like some solo Paul from time to time, but there's only a bit I really love.

I can't stand Taylor Swift.

I looked the other way with Nicki Minaj or whatever her name is...dear gawd.

I thought Jennifer Hudson's tribute was very nicely done.

BRUUUUUUCCCCEEE!!!! I love Bruce, and he is a great performer. But that song was 'meh' to me as well.

We agree, I had my wife running in the room, cause I screamed when Bon Iver won.....loud:lol:

I agree with everything too.....beach boys....Explain to me the love:shrug:

Mick

HomerMcvie 02-13-2012 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bluefox4000 (Post 1039737)

I agree with everything too.....beach boys....Explain to me the love:shrug:

Mick

Me too. I guess we need to ask Lindsey. I've NEVER understood love for the BB.

And I'd wager $50 that some of their vocals were lip synced.

bluefox4000 02-13-2012 01:54 PM

yes.....i asked the same question......to perfect for their age:laugh: Pet Sounds.....the first album where I fell asleep during a listen.:lol:

Mick

Nico 02-13-2012 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1039738)
Me too. I guess we need to ask Lindsey. I've NEVER understood love for the BB.

And I'd wager $50 that some of their vocals were lip synced.

I'm confused about Lindsey because, although he definitely acknowledges Brian Wilson and Pet Sounds as inspiration to him, he seems to be drifting more and more away from labeling the BB as a main influence. :shrug: Like, he made this top albums to listen to list on Amazon and I don't even think the Beach Boys were even on the VERY top of that list- like we would expect of Lindsey.

In fact, here is his list.

And YES, I highly approve with great love his choice to put John Lennon's solo album in his top 10 and not include one Beatles album. Man has the kind of punk edge I can love. And POB is flawless.

HomerMcvie 02-13-2012 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bluefox4000 (Post 1039739)
yes.....i asked the same question......to perfect for their age:laugh: Pet Sounds.....the first album where I fell asleep during a listen.:lol:

Mick

E.X.A.C.T.L.Y. They're too old to sound that good. It HAD to be tracks.

Me too. I bought Pet Sounds BECAUSE of Lindsey's fandom.

Lindsey is WRONG! It blows goats.

HejiraNYC 02-13-2012 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1039746)
E.X.A.C.T.L.Y. They're too old to sound that good. It HAD to be tracks.

Me too. I bought Pet Sounds BECAUSE of Lindsey's fandom.

Lindsey is WRONG! It blows goats.

I think it's hard for anyone to sound that bad when you've got 300 people on stage singing and playing at the same time. I don't think they were lip synching at all, especially Brian Wilson. I am personally not a BB fan, largely due to their failure to evolve and sullying the brand. But I can definitely appreciate their golden era sound and Brian Wilson's orchestral approach to vocal harmony arrangement; nobody was doing 3- or 4-part harmonies like that in rock music. And you can clearly hear the BB influence in songs like "Sara" and "You Make Loving Fun." Oh, and of course, "Farmer's Daughter." And it goes without saying that bands like Crosy Stills Nash (& Young), The Byrds, The Mamas & the Papas, etc. would not have existed without the BB sound.

Oh, BTW... is it me, or was Mike Love really creepy looking/acting?

poetinmyheart 02-13-2012 03:32 PM

Really pleased for Bon Iver. A worthy winner.

HomerMcvie 02-13-2012 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 1039749)
I think it's hard for anyone to sound that bad when you've got 300 people on stage singing and playing at the same time. I don't think they were lip synching at all,

Oh, BTW... is it me, or was Mike Love really creepy looking/acting?

Like I said, I'd wager $50 that they were(not that we'll ever have proof). I actually just emailed my friend, who does sound for much bigger acts than I, to see if he's done the BB. He does a lot of casino stuff, and that's a typical BB venue....waiting to hear back from him.....

I DO do sound for touring acts(not that big, though), and I can tell you that about 80% of the newer acts, play along to tracks. I did sound 2 weeks ago, for a guy with the #1 country hit in the U.S., and sure enough, TRACKS. Extra keyboard parts, and all the background harmonies(the sound man plays the song on his laptop, and feeds it to the band's in ear monitors). A trained ear listening(especially since I have both of his albums, and have listened to them many times), can hear the extra harmonies, especially. The soundman does his best to keep it at a less than obvious level, but they're still there. Tracks are unfortunately common now.

Mike Love is the one with the ball cap???

Christopher 02-13-2012 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by RickRobert (Post 1039705)
Well it's in a different key to the studio version, and if she recorded a new version to lip-sync, I doubt she'd have left in the off notes...

Maybe that was part of it, because I immediately noticed a huge difference in the tone of Adele's voice last night. Missing was the subtle grittiness & that infamous break in her voice & vocals that is a huge endearing element & had become her trademark.

I saw her in one of her final concerts in Denver, Co (If not indeed the final one) at the end of May 2011 at a small venue holding maybe 2k (BlueBird landmark theatre). I think it may have been the last show before she cancelled her entire tour if memory serves correct. She commented that her doctors didn't recommend her doing the show, but she carried on despite their warnings & apparently strained her vocals to the point of having to cancel an entire year of touring, despite putting on a stellar vocal show that night. You would have never thought there was a thing wrong with her voice that evening, despite one or two bum notes - she sounded just like the record.

Last night at the Grammy's she did not sound like the record. Maybe it was nerves, Maybe it was a key change in the song, or perhaps she was taking no chances.But I think her tone has changed due to the node surgeries. And perhaps, just like Stevie in the early days, was singing incorrectly from her throat on occasion to attain that distinct sound. And now she's been coached to sing from her diaphragm to avoid further damage. Either way, no one can convince me she sounded the same. Her voice was still powerful, but some of the indelible nuances were noticeably (to this listener) absent.

Jondalar 02-13-2012 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by poetinmyheart (Post 1039752)
Really pleased for Bon Iver. A worthy winner.

I just downloaded his album. I like it, very mellow. Reminds me a little of Lindsey creating landscapes and painting pictures.

Dodfather 02-13-2012 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1039746)
It blows goats.

Do you have proof? :laugh:

I really like it in parts, especially Sloop John B, God Only Knows and Wouldn't It Be Nice.

HejiraNYC 02-13-2012 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Christopher (Post 1039766)
Maybe that was part of it, because I immediately noticed a huge difference in the tone of Adele's voice last night. Missing was the subtle grittiness & that infamous break in her voice & vocals that is a huge endearing element & had become her trademark.

I was thinking the same exact thing- that she seemed to have lost the very quality that made her so distinct in the first place- that wheezy, raspy chortley-ness that gave her bluesy melodies some degree of conviction. For all we know, her before voice may have been a damaged voice. And now it's a decidedly conventional-sounding thing.

I can't really think of too many singers who have bounced back from vocal surgery unscathed... perhaps Rod Stewart (although, to be honest, how can you tell when his voice is messed up? :lol: ). Bonnie Tyler made an entire career around a botched throat operation. But Elton John never quite bounced back. And oh, poor Julie Andrews. :distress:

HomerMcvie 02-13-2012 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 1039771)
Do you have proof? :laugh:

I really like it in parts, especially Sloop John B, God Only Knows and Wouldn't It Be Nice.

:mad:It's one of my favorite expressions, okay?:mad:

Now tell me my favorite word?:lol:

I don't know how many chances Mick gave it, but I only gave it one. It just didn't do anything for me, so it's a dust collector now!:rolleyes:

bluefox4000 02-13-2012 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1039774)
:mad:It's one of my favorite expressions, okay?:mad:

Now tell me my favorite word?:lol:

I don't know how many chances Mick gave it, but I only gave it one. It just didn't do anything for me, so it's a dust collector now!:rolleyes:

I gave it 3. And believe me.......to these ears it sucked. I have no idea why it's a so called classic. It's basically Brian Wilson stroking himself.:wavey:

Mick


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