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PolishStevieFan 01-17-2012 01:22 PM

Anyone interested in Madonna's new album?
 
I heard demo of "Give Me All Your Love" few weeks ago and I must admit it didn't grab me. Maybe it's because I don't like Nicky Minaj, who seems to be very annoying person. Besides it's too poppy for my taste. Still I hope the album "M.D.N.A." will provide few enjoyable songs. What do you expect from the new album of Queen of Pop?

Dove 01-17-2012 01:25 PM

Hmm, I like Madonna's older stuff best. I personally wouldn't spend my money on her new album and I agree, not too excited about Nicki Minaj being included.

Dodfather 01-17-2012 01:34 PM

I haven't loved anything Madonna has done since Ray Of Light but I will check it out to see if it's any good. I love her earlier stuff, she was untouchable from 1984 - 1998. My favourites are often her ballads actually, especially Take A Bow and Crazy For You, in fact the whole Something To Remember album is fantastic. Like A Prayer too.

KarmaContestant 01-17-2012 01:46 PM

I am excited!

I am not, however, interested in the inclusion of M.I.A. or Nicky Minaj. I hope and pray that their presence on the album is understated.

I've only heard the new song once, and it reminded me very much of the early 80's stuff that the GoGos were making when i was a kid - I really like some of the retro 80's sounds I've been hearing and hope that 'sound' is prominent on this album.

Madonna's career is in an interesting position right now. She's not with any major music label, and I hardly consider her Live Nation deal to be worthy of making great albums for. I totally expect Madonna to fill her contractual obligations with very little interest or oomph. After all, who does she really need to impress anymore? She's an icon, a superstar in the greatest sense of the word. There is no need for hit singles, no need for platinum selling albums, no need for cool videos. There is, simply, no need to impress anyone. She's really done it all, and with the success of her tours the need for new music isn't really there. I really don't think she even cares anymore.

I do expect the media to make much ado about nothing when it comes to the supposed rivalry they are building up between Madge and Gaga. It's funny - Madonna describes the similarities between Born This Way and Express Yourself an "interesting" and the media only days later is calling it a "slam".

If it were up to me, I'd prefer that Madonna team up with Patrick Leonard and Stephen Bray again and pump out a few albums that have that classic 1980's Madonna sound (think Open Your Heart or Dress You Up), rather than trying to keep up with some recent fad or trend that she likes. Madonna used to set trends, and now it feels like she's trying to keep up with them. M.I.A.? Really?

Ultimately, there's never been a Madonna album I didn't eventually come to love, and I don't expect this one to be any different - but I'm admittedly nervous.

PolishStevieFan 01-17-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1036219)
I am excited!

I really don't think she even cares anymore.

I hope it's not true :) You know, I think she shoudn't be interested in sales and certifications. She should just release great album like she used to do in the past. Personally I hope that one day she'll go back to "American Life" style. That electronica-folky stuff was really interesting and way too underrated. I remember hearing "Nothing Fails" and asking myself "why wasn't it a bigger hit?".

Dodfather 01-17-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1036219)
I've only heard the new song once, and it reminded me very much of the early 80's stuff that the GoGos were making when i was a kid - I really like some of the retro 80's sounds I've been hearing and hope that 'sound' is prominent on this album.


If it were up to me, I'd prefer that Madonna team up with Patrick Leonard and Stephen Bray again and pump out a few albums that have that classic 1980's Madonna sound (think Open Your Heart or Dress You Up), rather than trying to keep up with some recent fad or trend that she likes. Madonna used to set trends, and now it feels like she's trying to keep up with them. M.I.A.? Really?

I'm a big Go-Go's fan so this is very interesting and yes, I couldn't agree more with your other comment.

EDIT: I just listened to it and yes, from what I hear it's very Go-Gos. Especially at the start.

bluefox4000 01-17-2012 04:01 PM

My bro works for her.....so i'll probably see the show if she tours......that's it though. Not a fan....but her shows are fabulous.

Mick

Silver Springs 01-17-2012 04:25 PM

No.

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Dodfather 01-17-2012 05:22 PM

This thread has got me listening to Bedtime Stories. Such a great album. I have to thank louie for getting me back into this album a while ago!

Macfanforever 01-17-2012 05:56 PM

Nope.I loss interest with her in the late 1980's.Her first few albums were great.Along with the videos on the old MTV.

louielouie2000 01-17-2012 07:30 PM

I have a feeling I won't care for Madonna's upcoming work, but I still am interested to see what she has to say. What I heard of Hard Candy was a sonic abortion. Like Al said, Madonna really has seemed to of lost her touch post Ray Of Light. Though I will admit, Confessions On A Dance Floor is my single biggest guilty pleasure. :o

GypsySorcerer 01-17-2012 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 1036218)
I haven't loved anything Madonna has done since Ray Of Light but I will check it out to see if it's any good. I love her earlier stuff, she was untouchable from 1984 - 1998. My favourites are often her ballads actually, especially Take A Bow and Crazy For You, in fact the whole Something To Remember album is fantastic. Like A Prayer too.

Agreed on all counts. My favorite albums from her are Erotica, Bedtime Stories, and Ray of Light. Most of her newer stuff has been somewhat disappointing, although like Louie said, Confessions is a guilty pleasure.

MacMan 01-17-2012 10:57 PM

I think her Confessions album from '05 is just brilliant... It's her only album I like every track... But I like a lot of her stuff.

I'm interested in hearing it... Heard that one leaked half finished song, that sounded pretty finished to me.. sounds pretty good, and have heard the tune she just won the golden globe for from her movie and it too sounds really good...

Didn't she just sign like a 3 album deal with Interscope? [speaking about not being on a label, proper].

I don't follow her close enough to know everything about her, but why does the press and I suppose to a large extent, the public give her such a hard time, most notably for sounding british when she lived in Britain for years? I always found it kind of funny when ever anyone bashed her saying she's trying to sound 'British', like it's all faked. It works the other way too.. When you have a transplant that's say from either the UK or Australia living in North America they just over time naturally start to sound American... goes both ways. Has always stuck me as odd!

tilthefirefades 01-18-2012 01:09 AM

Hard Candy was just so dreadful I'm not getting my hopes up. I will admit that as long as she is releasing albums I'll be buying them just because of how much I love her. Give Me All Your Love sounds putrid to be honest, but I'm sure there will be at least a few songs I will like.

KarmaContestant 01-18-2012 02:09 AM

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Originally Posted by PolishStevieFan (Post 1036231)
I hope it's not true :) You know, I think she shoudn't be interested in sales and certifications. She should just release great album like she used to do in the past. Personally I hope that one day she'll go back to "American Life" style. That electronica-folky stuff was really interesting and way too underrated. I remember hearing "Nothing Fails" and asking myself "why wasn't it a bigger hit?".

Nothing Fails is a great song, from a great album. Mother & Father is another great track! Many don't like that album, but, well, it's bound to happen (it's one of my favorite Madonna albums - probably top 3).

Artists grow - they can't always stay the same or they get stale. Sometimes our tastes grow in the same direction as well, and sometimes not. Many of my favorites from even 10 years ago no longer hold any interest for me, but Madonna always manages to keep me interested. Hopefully this remains true!

Hard Candy has some great moments - Voices, Devil Wouldn't Recognize You, Give It To Me, Beat Goes On, Miles Away - all are great songs easily as good as her best classic material.

Dodfather 01-18-2012 05:57 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1036277)
I have a feeling I won't care for Madonna's upcoming work, but I still am interested to see what she has to say. What I heard of Hard Candy was a sonic abortion. Like Al said, Madonna really has seemed to of lost her touch post Ray Of Light. Though I will admit, Confessions On A Dance Floor is my single biggest guilty pleasure. :o

Agreed. I just didn't like that album at all, especially since it has the same title as a fantastic Counting Crows album from several years earlier! :confused::laugh:

Louie - After listening to it on spotify 3 times in a row last night I just bought Bedtime Stories. :nod: I really love this stage of her career and it's kind of been forgotten about.

Travis 01-18-2012 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 1036252)
This thread has got me listening to Bedtime Stories. Such a great album. I have to thank louie for getting me back into this album a while ago!

Ahhh yes, Bedtime Stories - for me, that was the last full Madonna album I really enjoyed. I was not a fan of the "enlightened" Madonna so, Ray of Light did nothing for me. There have been a few gems here and there but I absolutely loved the Erotica and Bedtime Stories era. I'm sure it has a lot to do with me coming out then as well.

PolishStevieFan 01-18-2012 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1036352)
Nothing Fails is a great song, from a great album. Mother & Father is another great track! Many don't like that album, but, well, it's bound to happen (it's one of my favorite Madonna albums - probably top 3).

Good to see somebody who also likes "American Life". I agree, it's one of her best but it takes more time to get into it. It's not insant musical gratification in the vein of albums such as "True Blue" or "Madonna", you have to sort of...dig deeper. But that's what fans really like to do :)

My Top 5 Madonna's albums are:
1. Erotica
2. American Life
3. Bedtime Stories
4. Confessions on a Dancefloor
5.Like a Prayer

TrueFaith77 01-18-2012 12:53 PM

I hear she collaborates with the music find of 2011: Sound of Arrows. So I'm intrigued.

louielouie2000 01-18-2012 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 1036357)
Agreed. I just didn't like that album at all, especially since it has the same title as a fantastic Counting Crows album from several years earlier! :confused::laugh:

Louie - After listening to it on spotify 3 times in a row last night I just bought Bedtime Stories. :nod: I really love this stage of her career and it's kind of been forgotten about.

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Originally Posted by Travis (Post 1036362)
Ahhh yes, Bedtime Stories - for me, that was the last full Madonna album I really enjoyed. I was not a fan of the "enlightened" Madonna so, Ray of Light did nothing for me. There have been a few gems here and there but I absolutely loved the Erotica and Bedtime Stories era. I'm sure it has a lot to do with me coming out then as well.

Bedtime Stories is far and away my fav Madonna album (of the ones I've heard). The whole slow transition from R&B to mystical existentialism is just genius to me. I also think the album is also probably Madonna's most lyrically honest, too. I just love Bedtime Stories... it's one of my all time fav albums, period. :nod:

PolishStevieFan 01-19-2012 02:58 AM

"Bedtime Stories" is truly one of the greatest albums that she's released. I love that Urban/R&B edge to it. And apart from #1 single "Take a Bow" there's a lot to enjoy, especially Bjork-written title track (a kind of introduction to the future "Ray of Light" electronica world), anthemic "Survival" and funky "Don't Stop". But "Erotica" is even better. I'm not gay yet that album's dance settings and lyrics provide me a great musical experience. Besides, it was my first Madonna's album ever, so I guess my opinion may have something to do with so called sentimentality :) "Where Life Begins"-my all time favourite song from that album, even with its raunchy lyrics :)

Dodfather 01-19-2012 03:36 AM

[QUOTE=PolishStevieFan;1036544But "Erotica" is even better.[/QUOTE]

Erotica is a great album. Bad Girl is particular is such a fantastic song. I think it's underrated even by Madonna herself, since it's not on GHV2. The video is also one of her best.

PolishStevieFan 01-19-2012 08:19 AM

You are absolutely right! "Bad Girl" is such a great song, one of her best ballads ever and she didn't even put it on "Something to Remember" (Ballads album). Who needs two bland versions of "I Want You"? Not me, anyway...:) I can see that Madonna depreciate a lot of her ballads. For example her #1 song "This Used To Be My Playground" didn't find its way on any compilation album. "You'll See"-another gem, has been rarely or never performed during her world tours. But going back to "Bad Girl"...My girlfriend loves this song to pieces! And not only because of the title...:) The lyrics are quite depressing but it only makes me want to go back to this song again and again. And maybe this is the reason why I appreaciate "American Life" album so much...the lyrics are simple yet memorable... And a song "I'm So Stupid" sounds like a sequel to "Bad Girl" lyrical content, at least for me...I don't know but I feel there's a kind of connection between these two songs.

Dodfather 01-19-2012 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by PolishStevieFan (Post 1036555)
You are absolutely right! "Bad Girl" is such a great song, one of her best ballads ever and she didn't even put it on "Something to Remember" (Ballads album). Who needs two bland versions of "I Want You"? Not me, anyway...:) I can see that Madonna depreciate a lot of her ballads. For example her #1 song "This Used To Be My Playground" didn't find its way on any compilation album. "


Something To Remember
is my favourite Madonna album and yes, if Bad Girl replaced one of the version of I Want You the whole thing would have been absolutely perfect. This Used To Be My Playground is on it.

KarmaContestant 01-19-2012 11:37 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1036433)
Bedtime Stories is far and away my fav Madonna album (of the ones I've heard). The whole slow transition from R&B to mystical existentialism is just genius to me. I also think the album is also probably Madonna's most lyrically honest, too. I just love Bedtime Stories... it's one of my all time fav albums, period. :nod:

I can see that, and agree somewhat - but I'd choose American Life as her most lyrically honest and personal album. Songs like Mother & Father, Easy Ride, Nobody Knows Me, Nothing Fails, I'm So Stupid - I don't know what was really going on in her personal world at the time but it was definitely a hard time for her.

On another note, I gave Erotica a spin last night. I've forgotten how much I love Waiting and Thief of Hearts. "You'll do it, you'll take it. You'll screw it, you'll fake it." :laugh: Take that Annette Bening.

kathy1 01-19-2012 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1036352)
Nothing Fails is a great song, from a great album. Mother & Father is another great track! Many don't like that album, but, well, it's bound to happen (it's one of my favorite Madonna albums - probably top 3).

Artists grow - they can't always stay the same or they get stale. Sometimes our tastes grow in the same direction as well, and sometimes not. Many of my favorites from even 10 years ago no longer hold any interest for me, but Madonna always manages to keep me interested. Hopefully this remains true!

Hard Candy has some great moments - Voices, Devil Wouldn't Recognize You, Give It To Me, Beat Goes On, Miles Away - all are great songs easily as good as her best classic material.

i am a fan so i will probably get it.

PolishStevieFan 01-20-2012 02:33 PM

I'm just listening to Madonna's "Ray of Light" and must say that it's impeccable set of music. I know that for many people this type of Techno/Electronica/Pop hybrid is too much but truly this album has got only better with time. I think it needs more time and patience to appreaciate but finally it'll display its beauty for the casual listener.

Travis 02-24-2012 10:24 AM

Madonna "party" at Omega DC :)

http://img856.imageshack.us/img856/2...donnaflier.jpg

Spoinny 02-24-2012 11:36 AM

CONFESSSIONS ON A DANCE FLOOR!! IMHO her BEST album (right up there with Ray of Light) and (so far) her absolute BEST tour. Madonna knows how to entertain!

tilthefirefades 02-27-2012 01:54 PM

So what does everyone here think?


kak125 02-27-2012 03:35 PM

thanks for posting that song. i really like it. its very catchy! i am looking forward to this new cd. i didnt like her last song until I heard it during the super bowl and then it got stuck in my head -ha!!! i cant wait to see her in concert in november. this will be my first time ;)

PolishStevieFan 02-27-2012 03:40 PM

Lucky You! I won't be able to attend her concert in Warsaw:mad: Another missed opporutinty...

kak125 02-27-2012 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by PolishStevieFan (Post 1041649)
Lucky You! I won't be able to attend her concert in Warsaw:mad: Another missed opporutinty...

aww i am sorry to hear that. if it makes you feel any better madonna hasnt come to pittsburgh since 1985 and i was too young to go. is there another date coming up you can go to?

KarmaContestant 02-28-2012 11:35 AM

I wasn't really keen on that Give Me All Your Love song, to be truthful.

I have not listened to Girls Gone Wild, and probably won't until the album is released. I really prefer to hear an album in it's entirety, and not sample the songs ahead of time.

I hope the songwriting is good - I'd really like Madonna to have a hit of the same caliber as Vogue, Express Yourself, Frozen or Open Your Heart.

In fact I'd really kind of prefer that she go back to working with Patrick Leonard.

vivfox 02-28-2012 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 1041640)
So what does everyone here think?


I liked it on first listen. This song will sound great on a dance floor in a gay club.

olive 02-28-2012 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by KarmaContestant (Post 1041746)
I wasn't really keen on that Give Me All Your Love song, to be truthful.

I have not listened to Girls Gone Wild, and probably won't until the album is released. I really prefer to hear an album in it's entirety, and not sample the songs ahead of time.

I hope the songwriting is good - I'd really like Madonna to have a hit of the same caliber as Vogue, Express Yourself, Frozen or Open Your Heart.

In fact I'd really kind of prefer that she go back to working with Patrick Leonard.


none of this is on this cd i too wish she'd work with patrick again

louielouie2000 02-28-2012 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 1041640)
So what does everyone here think?


It would appear Madge has lost the last ounce of her former talent. :distress:

KarmaContestant 02-28-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1041781)
It would appear Madge has lost the last ounce of her former talent. :distress:

Without having yet heard the song, I have to disagree.

The problem is not Madonna's talent, it's the constant re-invention of her "sound" that she perpetuates by never working with the same producers. Every album has different producers, who are also actually co-writers. She usually only writes lyrics with a bare-bones melody, and the instrumentation is filled out by her chosen producers. Think Stevie and Lindsey, Gypsy for instance - the Bella Donna outtake versus the Mirage version - totally different sounds for the same song, and nothing like the demos, really.

Madonna is always searching for a new, fresh sound for her music. The fact that your tastes are no longer aligned with hers doesn't mean she's lost anything other than your ear. ;)

I hated Erotica when the single came out, and was indeed certain the whole album would be dreadful. I thought Secret was positively the worst song she had ever done - it sounded weird and very un-Madonna-like. Of course my mind was quickly changed when I got Bedtime Stories and played it to death. I listened to American Life once and forgot it existed for 5 years, and now I'd rank it in my top 3 Madonna albums ever. It wasn't that the songs were bad, it was that my tastes at the time were just not there.

If she always followed the same formula, we would never have had Erotica - hailed at the time as a sound that no one else was making, Ray of Light, also a landmakrk album that sounded like nothing she'd ever done. Confessions on a Dancefloor - pure disco and totally unique among Madonna albums.

Artists have to change and grow, or else they become stagnant. Imagine Fleetwood Mac with no Tusk, no Tango, no Mirage - just copy after copy of Rumours. Snooze...

I'm not saying you'll come to like this album, but if you are a Madonna fan, then don't write it off without giving the album a chance. It's not even out yet.

tilthefirefades 02-29-2012 12:50 AM

I think my problem is she set the pedestal so high for her current sound with Confessions that I just can't accept anything she releases now. I actually like Girls Gone Wild, but I know that she could do better.

PolishStevieFan 02-29-2012 03:34 PM

Things don't seem to be right for Madonna these days. Her first single "Give Me All Your Lovin" flopped in UK, becoming her least successful first single ever! In Poland the song is rarely being played by radio stations. To be honest I think this song is less than stellar. "Girls Gone Wild" is slightly better but hardly a cassic in the vein of her other hit singles. Of course, as a fan I will go and buy "MDNA" but don't expect too much from this album. Definately it won't be "Confessions On The Dancefloor" Part II. And as for Madonna's concert in Poland...well it seems that her last tour showed how many fans she has out here, so I am sure that next time she will visit us again :)


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