When She Comes Down comparison...
 

"Go, Lassie, Go" by The New Christy Minstrels...



"Wild Mountain Thyme" by The Byrds



http://die-augenweide.de/byrds/songu...tain_thyme.htm

Seriously, no one hears it?

I think I hear it A LOT in the chorus of the The New Christy Minstrels. Wow, so much... The arrangement and mesh of The Byrds song is very indicative of WSCD. Gosh, those are really great examples.

Beautiful songs.

I hear the comparisons too. Especially in the first one. Great find!

Cool! Thanks guys. I was playing Pandora radio yesterday and almost fell over when I heard the New Christy Minstrels version.

Whoa, Lindsey totally ripped that Lassie song off.. Great post CADreaming. The chord structure is the same. If they sung his lyrics, or vice versa, they could pass for one another.

After SAC, this also makes me sad.. But thanks for the insight CAD!

to me this sounded so much like irish folk song, but that's b/c it is lol. interesting write-up about the song ownership on wikipedia (not sure how believable wikipedia stuff is, but apparently Rod Stewart was taken to court over it already!) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Mountain_Thyme

WSCD doesn't have a feeling of an irish folk song to me but i can see the resemblance in chorus, especially since the words are so similar during that part too. i don't know enough / am not musical enough to hear what the chords are, so i will leave that to Spikey and people who can hear them.

cool water?
 

talking about irish folk songs, i always just assumed that Cool Water demo that FM did is a cover of some irish folk song. does anybody know whether that's correct - and if so, was that the name of the original song?

EDIT: ok, so my lack of knowledge about FM comes through - FM's Cool Water cover is apparently B-side to Gypsy. thought is was just a demo. and it's not a folk song - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cool_Water . either way, i love macters' version of it :) - and like it much better than WSCD :sorry:

Thanks Spikey. I thought it's a bit nostalgic, sort of going back to his folk roots.

I just came across this, CAD...from 8/24/11 Huffington Post interview:

MR ( Mike Ragogna ): Okay, the song, "When She Comes Down." One of my favorite folk songs is "Wild Mountain Time," and I love how you have a little nod to that in the chorus.

LB: Yes, exactly.

MR: Obviously you have a love of folk, in addition to a love of all kinds of music.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/mike-r...source=message

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I have to laugh at the "yes exactly." It could mean, "Yes, I totally stole it" or "Yes, I have no idea what song you're talking about, but I'll play it off."

Michele

I know what you mean,that it could mean anything, really, but doesn't it kind of sound like him, when you say something and he's happy you "get it"? Yes. Exactly"

cool find, completely forgot about that (plus we didn't know all songs yet when that interview first came out). and of course they misspelled thyme.

actually, reading the words of Wild Mountain Thyme, they reminded me of "lay me down in the tall grass and let me do my stuff" :laugh:. pulling wild thyme all around purple heather and laying down in the mountain flowers - maybe lindsey's connection / drawing inspiration from that song goes much deeper than just WSCD?!

see lyrics here: http://www.rampantscotland.com/songs/blsongs_thyme.htm

Bad enough the media always misspells Lindsey's name, his song names, and even his album titles, but now they can't even spell other peoples' songs right if it's in an article about him :rolleyes: Wild Mountain Time!! WOO_HOO!! Not nearly as romantic as Wild Mountain Thyme :distress:

yeah, like "Come is about Anne Heche right?" "Yes, sure."

Well, I think he is probably more willing to discuss the musical inspirations than the personal ones.

Yes, like that! ;)

Here is the audio...the part in question is at 6:47:
http://www.mediafire.com/?mmm3a3ezwnx17x7

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I can't imagine that at least part of Come is not about Anne Heche, seeing as how she went through a period when she actually thought she was God and called herself Celestia.

Michele

and he's not exactly discreet with his lyrics...

It's totally about her :nod:

Where did you hear that? Was that in her book?

Yes, it was in her book.

I wonder who decorated Lindsey's guest room back then.

Of course, there might be elements of someone else in there too, but I think he definitely saved Anne a place in Come and Miranda too. Sexual abuse by the father.

Michele

LOL. Hmmm. yeah, so AH called herself God, but I always thought God and Anne were two different characters in the song. God is clearly Stevie - or CAH. And between the two, my money's on Stevie.

What about "Down On Rodeo" Michele? That whole end part is definitely for her.

Miranda and DOR also, I agree. He clearly really cared for her. And I only read the parts in her book that were about Lindsey, but she had only kind words to say about him.

yeah, but if he wrote and recorded those songs (well, Miranda mainly) before she wrote it all out in her book, then i'd have a problem with his lack of discretion if i were her, frankly. yes those lyrics are not literal, but they are clear enough. and caroline, miranda, etc are pretty thinly veiled names.

On my own, I never heard the "Annie". It's discussing it here and on FM Legacy that I became aware of it.

Michele

Yeah, we know the Mir-ANNE-da one. I'd forgotten about DOR though, thanks for reminding.

I know Lindsey said explicitly that Come was about Anne Heche, in case anyone's unclear- it was in an article on the.. either the Madness Fades website or this website.
Something like, "Oh, you figured that out? Well, yeah, she.. blah blah blah.." (I forget the rest.)

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I have to laugh at the "yes exactly." It could mean, "Yes, I totally stole it" or "Yes, I have no idea what song you're talking about, but I'll play it off."

Nice one Michele. Insead of replying, I'll just make the observation that you have more one-liners than a Bond movie. Good and to the point ones, I might add ;)

Stevie's commentary for her Everyday video: "Men in trees! Men in trees!":laugh::laugh::laugh:

Speaking of Miranda, I watched the 48 Hours Hollywood crime special (with the Natalie Wood story featured) and learned about a woman who called herself Miranda and had phone "relationships" with a ton of male celebrities in the '70's and 80's. I had to wonder if Lindsey might have used the name at least, tongue in cheek. "Miranda is bringing the stars down."

I saw the "guest room" part as drawing me towards Anne, because unlike Stevie, Cheri and CAH, he didn't live with Anne. She visited him. So, I see that reference as alluding to someone who never took up full residence with him.

Of course, the other meaning is that he tried to keep her out of his mind. Tried to compartmentalize and keep it, her, out of his main thoughts when he had other things to attend to, which clearly he has said he has done with Stevie. So, I can see a Stevie there, but is speaks to me more of Anne and also her aspirations to be famous. That's why I think she's going in style. Stevie has a lavish lifestyle, of course, but they made it to success together and I don't know if her extravagances are as noticeable to him as Anne's would be. She had no career when he knew her, but she was aspiring and always wanted more than she had.

So . . . I attributed those lines to Anne. If anything I think harmony is about Stevie, but actually about both of them. Old harmony v. new harmony, maybe.

Michele

Oh, I watched that too. Billy Joel among others.

Michele

Lindsey met Anne when she was living with Steve Martin. Are you telling me he dated her too? Then wrote songs about it? :shrug:

Call me a wuss but I'd never go out with a friend's ex then brag about it. :eek: But I'm not a rock star.:lol:

and Anne wrote a really nice book chapter about him. in which she also described how they met.

lindsey and steve martin are friends?

What did she say?

They've been friends since before Fleetwood Mac. Probably not anymore.:lol:

But, Lindsey does admire Steve's banjo picking. :laugh:

The way Anne described their meeting, she did not know Lindsey at all. They met on a plane. He was listening to drum tracks on a cassette and she thought he was a drummer and he just smiled about that. He gave her his name and number and she told a frriend about him and the friend told her he was in Fleetwood Mac.

I don't think Steve Martin and LB were the hanging out together type of friends.

Michele

Talk about being in the right place at the right time! :lol:

Cool find, btw. Thanks for sharing! :)

"Sometimes A Fantasy", Michele?

Oh, yes. They did mention that more than one of the callers had written songs about her.

Michele