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Eugene 11-22-2011 09:59 AM

Teleprompter? Really??
 
I captured this image from the Melbourne EOS video...around the 00:46 second mark.http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...leprompter.jpg

KarmaContestant 11-22-2011 11:23 AM

No doubt she has a hard time remembering the lyrics sometimes.

Aw...Stevie's getting old. :(

poetinmyheart 11-22-2011 11:47 AM

I guess it's comforting to have it there? She may have written the lyrics but imagine a complete mind blank in front of all those people - horrifying :laugh:

olive 11-22-2011 11:58 AM

in the old days she would have to wing it and switch up or add new lyrics ... spontaneous unlike now where every show is exactly like the last the only change she makes now is to drop good songs from the set

Kena 11-22-2011 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by poetinmyheart (Post 1028441)
I guess it's comforting to have it there? She may have written the lyrics but imagine a complete mind blank in front of all those people - horrifying :laugh:

I totally agree! It probably helps her keep her place more so than just provide her with the lyrics. Some ledgie was talking about that during the unleashed tour...about how the prompter told her to exit stage right and what not.

Crazy thing is, she still messes up the lyrics sometime. Stevie is such a human... I love it! Wonder how long she been using the prompter.

Josh2003 11-22-2011 12:11 PM

I see nothing wrong with it...it's not like she's up there clearly relying on the screens to feed her the words.

turquoise5 11-22-2011 12:41 PM

OK, I must be in the minority....
 
OK, I must be in the minority here, but I find it disappointing about the teleprompter....especially for the songs she's been performing for decades, you'd think those lyrics would be hardwired into her brain by now. Maybe it's a sign of damage that drugs did.

gldstwmn 11-22-2011 12:47 PM

It's pretty standard in the industry now. The first time I heard of one being used was Ozzy about 12 - 13 years ago. Now everyone seems to have them.

diane_k 11-22-2011 01:39 PM

I've noticed them at a few shows lately. When Dolly was rattling off one of her homespun Smoky Mountain stories, I turned around to look at the crowd and noticed a teleprompter...displaying the story she was telling. At their age, I can see the need for this. Even divas have their senior moments!

DashingDan 11-22-2011 01:51 PM

She sneaked many peaks at it during Soldier's Angel in Boston this summer. Don't blame her at all, that song has to be easy to lose your place in.

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Originally Posted by diane_k (Post 1028480)
I've noticed them at a few shows lately. When Dolly was rattling off one of her homespun Smoky Mountain stories, I turned around to look at the crowd and noticed a teleprompter...displaying the story she was telling. At their age, I can see the need for this. Even divas have their senior moments!


STEVEHEDRICK 11-22-2011 01:51 PM

big deal we love her!

skcin 11-22-2011 02:40 PM

I don't think it's a matter of her forgetting words. She's lost her place in a song many times over the years - nothing new, lol! I see no problem with this or any reason to be upset. :shrug:

Eugene 11-22-2011 02:48 PM

Oh, I'm not upset. Bruce Springsteen has been using one since the early 90's. He isn't singing with his eyes closed. He's looking down at the teleprompter.

My point was that SN can't remember the words and stage cues for 14 songs, when we know ALL the words and stage cues.;)

beccamorrisfift 11-22-2011 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Eugene (Post 1028509)
Oh, I'm not upset. Bruce Springsteen has been using one since the early 90's. He isn't singing with his eyes closed. He's looking down at the teleprompter.

My point was that SN can't remember the words and stage cues for 14 songs, when we know ALL the words and stage cues.;)

Ah, but the problem here is that we who know all her stage cues and lyrics are obsessed with her, I doubt she's obsessed with herself. :laugh:

jkmaletic 11-22-2011 04:06 PM

Big deal. I agree that its probably just there for comfort.

Now if she starts using Autotune....



:p

StandbackStevie 11-22-2011 04:43 PM

I think all the artists today use the teleprompters. I think its alright to have them on hand in case you mind goes blank boy do i have those days all the time.

Hartbreakkid 11-22-2011 05:39 PM

Would you rather she lip synch?

bluefox4000 11-22-2011 05:47 PM

Everybody gets older. Artists who use it have said it's more of a comfort. I'm happy She's still performing. There's NOTHING at all wrong with this:nod:

Mick

LB Freakazoid 11-22-2011 06:10 PM

Well, my 2nd husband was a singer and he would forget lyrics all the time and just make them up - singers blank out after singing the same song a gazillion times...

And there's nothing wrong with using prompter.... I'm a professional prompter chick and I would not be able pay my mortgage if singers over 50 COULD remember their lyrics and "casual" banter....

Besides, doing concerts make for a nice break from all the boring speeches I have to listen to - and intensely pay attention to - try paying attention to the importance of the coloring of the label for french fried onions for 4 hours - argh! Or getting a script that normally takes 20 minutes to format and they give you only 30 seconds before the President goes on stage....
Or listening to some race car driver thanking everyone he's ever known for 20 minutes for driving in a circle (what my last three days consisted of!). I'm not complaining... It just gets boring...

So, I say.... Please singers - use prompter more! The variety helps:)

Syrah 11-22-2011 06:51 PM

I noticed at the sf Fillmore shows she rarely looked down at it. I think it is mainly used to let her know about wardrobe changes. I thought it was cute when it read "go get your cape!" :)

LB Freakazoid 11-22-2011 08:08 PM

My favorite that I've had to put in the script... " Pause and look concerned" and "pause for effect" and... "look amused"
But it's always fun to have phonetically spell out words ... Especially for certain challenged former leaders.... "new-cleee-rrrr". :p

iamnotafraid 11-22-2011 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jkmaletic (Post 1028522)

Now if she starts using Autotune....

:p


Did you listen to In Your Dreams?


I'd rather her get rid of those in-ear monitors than
the teleprompter. She can't help but fool with them
on every stinking song.

Give me the days of Elvis and Led Zeppelin and others
who didn't rely on this technology. They rocked without
it. Come to think of it, Stevie and the Mac did without it
in the 70's and much of the eighties. Possible exception
of a filmed event.

WildHearted 11-22-2011 08:58 PM

If you think In Your Dreams was auto-tuned in any way beyond just standard voice production...



Also, I don' t have a problem with the teleprompter. Who really cares? She obviously doesn't rely on it too heavily, as she still has flubs, and she's not noticeably locked into it or anything.

Macfanforever 11-22-2011 10:29 PM

I think alot of artists have problems with the ear monitors I was watching these last award show I dont remember if it was the CMA's or the American Music awards last sunday.If I was a singer I would use a teleprompter because I will screw up the words on a tune.I agree about dumping those ear monitors.

Nicks Fan 11-22-2011 10:35 PM

I remember the opening night of the two voices tour. If you watch the bootleg DVD you can see a teleprompter during the lost song when she and Don are singing So You Wanna Be A Rock N Roll Star. I guess at her age fogetting lyrics can happen but it does seem odd that the bulk of her setlist is so tried and true that one would think she would not need help with those songs.

I was at a Melissa Etheridge Concert a few years back and my friends had seen her at one of the shows prior to this concert where they had requested a song from her 2004 album "Lucky" called "When You Find The One" in Montreal where she played it she had to consult a binder that one of her tech guys brought out with lyrics to all of her songs. I have seen her 19 times in concert and have never had that happen. She has flubbed some lines and made light of it on stage but the audience took it in stride and didn't mind.

Matt

Hartbreakkid 11-23-2011 03:59 PM

[QUOTE=Nicks Fan;1028583]I remember the opening night of the two voices tour. If you watch the bootleg DVD you can see a teleprompter during the lost song when she and Don are singing So You Wanna Be A Rock N Roll Star."

Wa-Wa-Wa-What? There's a bootleg DVD of this concert? Is it just the bad fan vids on youtube?

It was so good when they did Hotel California!

SaidSomething 11-23-2011 06:36 PM

It is a great thing...
 
So, she just finished a record that she wrote all the lyrics for. Without much rehearsal she played a lot of the new songs...everything happens so quickly memorizing all those songs would be a ton of rehearsal...disappearing Stevie.

I remember papers on the floor to the right of her mic since the Wild Heart tour.
:wavey:
I am so happy that her performances are less stressed, stress affects your voice and I find her more willing to free up her voice for emoting. The in ear replaces the sound system facing the stage. I think that it sucks and can hinder your performance...it so the singers can hear the harmonies of each other instead of randomly sing to blaring music.

THINKABOUTIT 11-23-2011 06:53 PM

IMO guys....it's always the fans who know the lyrics best LOL :)

SaidSomething 11-23-2011 07:10 PM

Lol
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by THINKABOUTIT (Post 1028711)
IMO guys....it's always the fans who know the lyrics best LOL :)

Especially the Night Of 1000 Stevies goers!

Also, the record just came out and some vids on youtube show a bunch of guys singing all the new songs with her on her Wiltern Birthday Show.
:blob2:

Aussie W/Heart 11-23-2011 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by THINKABOUTIT (Post 1028711)
IMO guys....it's always the fans who know the lyrics best LOL :)

Well not quite true, i still stuff up the lyrics when singing along to Rhiannon, even after all these years:shrug: lol..

WildHearted 11-23-2011 07:17 PM

I can't sing 'Gold Dust Woman' in the correct order half the time. I know all the words, obviously, I just forget which ones go where...

And that's one of my all-time favorites. Come to think of it, it's my ringtone at the moment.

vivfox 11-23-2011 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SaidSomething (Post 1028724)
Also, the record just came out and some vids on youtube show a bunch of guys singing all the new songs with her on her Wiltern Birthday Show.

You can thank some really awesome Ledgies for this.:woohoo:

SaidSomething 11-24-2011 12:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1028761)
You can thank some really awesome Ledgies for this.:woohoo:

Hey...you guys had the first vids posted on youtube...I though wow...great sound...and you captured the edge of 17 in her...she was almost ready to burst with excitement...and that there, is the whole reason I love her, the new record...except for 1 song and I feel UnAmerican almost to even suggest...this could have been.

Thank you gust for picking up the show...but more importantly the whole vibe going on.

Thank you...:blob2:

skuncles 11-24-2011 09:00 AM

I would much rather she and anyone use a teleprompter rather than lip-synch. There's NO shame at all in using the prompter. Billy Joel used to keep a huge book on piano with all of his lyrics in it, he said it was there "just in case". Obviously he wouldn't have time to flip thru in the middle of the song, but it made him feel better (he now has the prompter down inside the piano).
I've seen Dolly Parton several times and her ENTIRE show is on the prompter including her "off the cuff" jokes (that she's been telling for 35 years!). She has said that it's really easy to lose your place in the song on stage.
Streisand has said the prompter has helped with her stage fright, she's long been afraid of forgetting the words in front of crowd (which is why she rarely tours). They made a huge deal when Sinatra started using it.
With Stevie and many others as well, there have to be songs that you just go into autopilot during. You start daydreaming and next thing you know you're lost. Don't forget Stevie has messed up the lyrics a ton of times over the years, the recording of "The Dance" had to be stopped while Stevie tried to get "Dreams" right because she forgot how it started.
Whether your on stage or the president, the prompter is only there to keep you on target, that's all.

Nicks Fan 11-26-2011 11:21 PM

[QUOTE=Hartbreakkid;1028677]
Quote:

Originally Posted by Nicks Fan (Post 1028583)
I remember the opening night of the two voices tour. If you watch the bootleg DVD you can see a teleprompter during the lost song when she and Don are singing So You Wanna Be A Rock N Roll Star."

Wa-Wa-Wa-What? There's a bootleg DVD of this concert? Is it just the bad fan vids on youtube?

It was so good when they did Hotel California!


Yes there was one floating around. I have a copy though at this moment I have no idea where it is LOL. Overall the quality is pretty good. The sound in Don Henley's set is not great but it isn't bad I found Stevie's set was pretty good for the sound quality.

Matt

skcin 11-29-2011 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 1028829)
I would much rather she and anyone use a teleprompter rather than lip-synch. There's NO shame at all in using the prompter. Billy Joel used to keep a huge book on piano with all of his lyrics in it, he said it was there "just in case". Obviously he wouldn't have time to flip thru in the middle of the song, but it made him feel better (he now has the prompter down inside the piano).
I've seen Dolly Parton several times and her ENTIRE show is on the prompter including her "off the cuff" jokes (that she's been telling for 35 years!). She has said that it's really easy to lose your place in the song on stage.
Streisand has said the prompter has helped with her stage fright, she's long been afraid of forgetting the words in front of crowd (which is why she rarely tours). They made a huge deal when Sinatra started using it.
With Stevie and many others as well, there have to be songs that you just go into autopilot during. You start daydreaming and next thing you know you're lost. Don't forget Stevie has messed up the lyrics a ton of times over the years, the recording of "The Dance" had to be stopped while Stevie tried to get "Dreams" right because she forgot how it started.
Whether your on stage or the president, the prompter is only there to keep you on target, that's all.

I still vividly recall seeing Stevie come in late on "dreams unwind" during Rhiannon cuz she was spinning & lost her place - Buffalo Show, Dance Tour, 11/97. You can hear it on the bootleg too! :nod:

teedeerocks 02-07-2015 03:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 1028829)
I would much rather she and anyone use a teleprompter rather than lip-synch. There's NO shame at all in using the prompter. Billy Joel used to keep a huge book on piano with all of his lyrics in it, he said it was there "just in case". Obviously he wouldn't have time to flip thru in the middle of the song, but it made him feel better (he now has the prompter down inside the piano).
I've seen Dolly Parton several times and her ENTIRE show is on the prompter including her "off the cuff" jokes (that she's been telling for 35 years!). She has said that it's really easy to lose your place in the song on stage.
Streisand has said the prompter has helped with her stage fright, she's long been afraid of forgetting the words in front of crowd (which is why she rarely tours). They made a huge deal when Sinatra started using it.
With Stevie and many others as well, there have to be songs that you just go into autopilot during. You start daydreaming and next thing you know you're lost. Don't forget Stevie has messed up the lyrics a ton of times over the years, the recording of "The Dance" had to be stopped while Stevie tried to get "Dreams" right because she forgot how it started.
Whether your on stage or the president, the prompter is only there to keep you on target, that's all.

Oh I would so love to see "The Dance" rehearsal video.Does anyone know if it is even out there?I mean one with all the flubs,not one where all the rehearsed songs came out flawless.

PenguinHead 02-08-2015 12:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iamnotafraid (Post 1028559)
Did you listen to In Your Dreams?


I'd rather her get rid of those in-ear monitors than
the teleprompter. She can't help but fool with them
on every stinking song.

Give me the days of Elvis and Led Zeppelin and others
who didn't rely on this technology. They rocked without
it. Come to think of it, Stevie and the Mac did without it
in the 70's and much of the eighties. Possible exception
of a filmed event.

All musicians utilize the technology that exists at any given era. Sound and production standards for shows are much higher now than in the days of Elvis and Led Zeppelin. Using monitors and teleprompters is not a sign of weakness or deficiency. Most artists don't rely too heavily on teleprompters, but they are a helpful reference - a safety net of sorts.

Machu 02-08-2015 06:46 PM

I don't think it's a problem. She probably needs it "just in case" or maybe if she forgets what verse she's on. It's not like she stares at it. In fact, I've never seen her look down at it.

teedeerocks 02-09-2015 07:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Machu (Post 1160301)
I don't think it's a problem. She probably needs it "just in case" or maybe if she forgets what verse she's on. It's not like she stares at it. In fact, I've never seen her look down at it.

I'm sure many of you (maybe all of you) have seen this but it seems appropriate considering the topic:http://youtu.be/WM9A13u5SIc.Also,it looks to me like Stevie is getting a little irritated with Lori.What do y'all think?


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