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markolas 10-29-2011 11:43 AM

So long, CDs?
 
CD format to be abandoned by major labels by the end of 2012.

I'm not complaining. In the last couple of years, I've whittled down a collection of over 500 CDs to about 50. I bought IYD on CD, but other than that, I've been buying mp3s exclusively for a while now. I love having my entire music collection at my immediate disposal and never having to lug CDs around. The bit about magazines doesn't bug me either. Does anyone even still read print magazines?

Silver Springs 10-29-2011 11:56 AM

I hate downloading music. I don't want to lose CDs just to "move with the times". Why do I have to constantly be forced into this cold and decadent "techno future" when I don't want to be? This is bull****...... I'm in a bad mood now...

Edit: I really couldn't give a tut about magazines, though. I haven't read a magazine in years and I don't plan to.

louielouie2000 10-29-2011 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1025584)
I hate downloading music. I don't want to lose CDs just to "move with the times". Why do I have to constantly be forced into this cold and decadent "techno future" when I don't want to be? This is bull****...... I'm in a bad mood now...

This is pretty much how I feel too. Downloading and playing an album isn't even a shadow of the experience of going to a store, holding the new album in your hands, opening it up, and putting it into your stereo for the first time... while eagerly looking over the album notes and pictures. I find downloading to be dull and even nerve wracking. I had to pay for & download Lindsey's new album twice because something went wrong. I've heard far too many stories of people losing all their mp3s because of iTunes flukes and such. I'll never leave my music collection to the whimsy of electronic equipment. I'm holding onto buying cd's until no more cd's are made. Which unfortunately, will probably be within the next 5-10 years.

WildHearted 10-29-2011 12:04 PM

I read magazines all the time. I love them. And I love having physical CD's to lend to people to listen to, to listen to in the car, to look at the album booklet, just to physically hold in my hand.

This sucks.

Silver Springs 10-29-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1025586)
I read magazines all the time. I love them. And I love having physical CD's to lend to people to listen to, to listen to in the car, to look at the album booklet, just to physically hold in my hand.

This sucks.

I realise now how people felt when they began to phase out Vinyl and Tapes for CDs. I don't like the idea of having intangible music floating in the ether, where I can't see and feel it. Yeah. That sounds very airy fairy. But maybe you know what I mean. If I have a physical copy, it's a comfort that it's constantly there. I'm not going to one day put my CD into the player and find that the files aren't there any more or its corrupt.

poetinmyheart 10-29-2011 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1025584)
I hate downloading music. I don't want to lose CDs just to "move with the times". Why do I have to constantly be forced into this cold and decadent "techno future" when I don't want to be? This is bull****...... I'm in a bad mood now...

Agree. I hate downloading too. I know that downloading really has taken over but to completely discontinue cds!! Argh!

HomerMcvie 10-29-2011 12:14 PM

I'm very anal about not playing my original CDs. Every CD in my car is a copy, as well as all in my garage.

Even though I'm talking about vinyl, cassettes and yes, 8 tracks, having to buy 8 copies of Rumours(having worn them all out), trained me to make copies of my CDs, and wear out the copies. MUCH cheaper in the long run!:o

Silver Springs 10-29-2011 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1025589)
I'm very anal about not playing my original CDs. Every CD in my car is a copy, as well as all in my garage.

Even though I'm talking about vinyl, cassettes and yes, 8 tracks, having to buy 8 copies of Rumours(having worn them all out), trained me to make copies of my CDs, and wear out the copies. MUCH cheaper in the long run!:o

O_o......And here I thought I was anal retentive. That's a special kind of crazy...:laugh:

vivfox 10-29-2011 12:21 PM

I read magazines all the time and will miss them immensely. What do you expect an old man to do when he's in the waiting room getting his car fixed?

Silver Springs 10-29-2011 12:23 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1025591)
I read magazines all the time and will miss them immensely. What do you expect an old man to do when he's in the waiting room getting his car fixed?

Well I would say read a book but the techno-freaks are even getting rid of those bit by bit.

beccamorrisfift 10-29-2011 12:31 PM

I think a boycott is in order... :laugh:

Silver Springs 10-29-2011 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by beccamorrisfift (Post 1025602)
I think a boycott is in order... :laugh:

Doesn't it seem kind of ironic to boycott something we're annoyed about being discontinued, lol?

wetcamelfood 10-29-2011 12:40 PM

Not cool
 
Sort of like how DVDs are going "out of style" now, you can already see it's going to be a space thing like how they're going to stop selling DVD recorders because they want you to go tivo/DVR and I don't want to because that box will fill up then they milk you to buy more space on it. I like burning CDs & DVDs because there's no limits on how many you can have and like some have said above about pride in a collection. When you make friends with someone and tell them you collect music, what do kids now do? Take their friend in to their room and point to a small black box on the other side of the room and say "well, there's my collection"?

John

beccamorrisfift 10-29-2011 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1025608)
Doesn't it seem kind of ironic to boycott something we're annoyed about being discontinued, lol?

Nah, boycott downloads :nod:

Silver Springs 10-29-2011 12:47 PM

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Originally Posted by beccamorrisfift (Post 1025616)
Nah, boycott downloads :nod:

See. That makes more sense, and my mind should have gone to that first. Doi. I don't download anyway so I'm pretty much on a lifetime boycott :p

markolas 10-29-2011 12:52 PM

What a bunch of luddities. :laugh:

I got the impression that article was specifically talking about music magazines (Rolling Stone, etc.), not magazines in general. The only time I look at magazines is in a waiting room, and it seems like they're about 60% advertisements, so I won't miss the damn things. I'll just start bringing my Kindle Fire with me everywhere I go.

HomerMcvie 10-29-2011 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1025590)
O_o......And here I thought I was anal retentive. That's a special kind of crazy...:laugh:

Newsflash!!!

CD's get SCRATCHED. I don't know about you, but if I spent $16 on it, and really like it, and end up spending $32 on it, I'm pissed. Thank you very much, I'll spend $16 on the original, and 20 CENTS on the copy, and be good to go for life(or however many 20 cent copies I go through).

Your mileage may vary...:lol::lol::lol:

tilthefirefades 10-29-2011 04:03 PM

This actually makes me incredibly sad :distress:

In the past 3 years I've downloaded maybe 4 albums.

I've bought easily 50 CDs. I agree with everything Louie said, nothing beats having the physical experience of purchasing new music.

chriskisn 10-29-2011 07:28 PM

Get with the times people! I haven't played a CD in ages other than in my car (still got to get an aux jack fitted). CDs are yesterday whether you like it or not. I don't care about holding it in my hand, and it will sure save a few trees and emissions from transport so that is a good thing.

I do not look forward to losing books to e-readers though but I'm sure I'll learn to live with that too.

Embrace the future!!! :]

CADreaming 10-29-2011 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1025586)
I read magazines all the time. I love them. And I love having physical CD's to lend to people to listen to, to listen to in the car, to look at the album booklet, just to physically hold in my hand.

This sucks.

I totally agree with you. I have over 400 cd's and over 300 albums. Part of the joy of collecting for me is reading the liner notes or the booklets, finding out the specifics of the recording - who, what, where, when, and how. I miss that with downloading.

And, I love magazines too.

I'm totally bummed.

PolishStevieFan 10-30-2011 03:21 AM

I don't care for MP3's. I mean, when I buy CD's I've got something to look at and listen to. There's always nice booklet, lyrics (which you don't have to search via net), extra pics and stuff like that. Downloading may be useful for me only when I discover new artist and I am not sure if I want to buy his/her album on the CD format. I just love seeing how my CD collection grows with every year. (This year I went a little over the top and bought more than 40 CD's:)). I can't imagine listening my favourite music without reading booklet, looking at the cover art, etc. For me listening to music is a complex and intellectual experience that covers all the aspects of the reception of the art: listening, looking, reading and...thinking. And CD format does that for me.

Fiver 10-30-2011 03:45 AM

I'm not sure, but my general impression was that the vinyl market's doing pretty well? That could be a good alternative for music hobbyists... if everything you wanted got a vinyl release anyhow. Probably be a limited run as well.

I'd definitely miss having a physical medium.

Dodfather 10-30-2011 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1025584)
I hate downloading music. I don't want to lose CDs just to "move with the times". Why do I have to constantly be forced into this cold and decadent "techno future" when I don't want to be? This is bull****...... I'm in a bad mood now...

Edit: I really couldn't give a tut about magazines, though. I haven't read a magazine in years and I don't plan to.

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1025585)
This is pretty much how I feel too. Downloading and playing an album isn't even a shadow of the experience of going to a store, holding the new album in your hands, opening it up, and putting it into your stereo for the first time... while eagerly looking over the album notes and pictures. I find downloading to be dull and even nerve wracking. I had to pay for & download Lindsey's new album twice because something went wrong. I've heard far too many stories of people losing all their mp3s because of iTunes flukes and such. I'll never leave my music collection to the whimsy of electronic equipment. I'm holding onto buying cd's until no more cd's are made. Which unfortunately, will probably be within the next 5-10 years.

Hear hear! This really p***es me off. I like having the artwork, liner notes and something tangible as part of the experience of listening to music. I don't own an ipod. I do have an ipod shuffle but I only very recently got that so I could have music at the gym. and even then I was the last person I know to get one. I have a combined cd/vinyl player and even that's only because I live in a small flat and can't fit a big proper turntable in here!

I still buy cds all the time. In fact I went ona bit of a spree and bought 10 yesterday! Mostly they were for only a few £ each from PlayTrade and amazon marketplace though but I did get a couple of new ones too - new Kelly Clarkson album and Miranda Lambert's new one.

I'll keep buying cd's as long as I can. Even when the format is dicontinued you'll be ale to fill out your music collection with older cd albums from marketplace, ebay etc.

Dodfather 10-30-2011 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1025638)
Newsflash!!!

CD's get SCRATCHED. I don't know about you, but if I spent $16 on it, and really like it, and end up spending $32 on it, I'm pissed. Thank you very much, I'll spend $16 on the original, and 20 CENTS on the copy, and be good to go for life(or however many 20 cent copies I go through).

Your mileage may vary...:lol::lol::lol:

CD's only get scratched if you're careless! :laugh: I have hundreds of cds, many that I've had for many, many years and they're fine. I just make sure to put them back in the box immediately after playing. They go back in the correct box, with the text facing the way it's supposed to so you can read it. It''s something I'm really anal about. I can't stand to see cds in the wrong boxes or sitting out on the shelf/on top of the stereo when the box is right there! God forbid people leave them shiny side down too... aaarghhh! :mad: I'm the same with dvds.

I also just wouldn't have the storage space for duplicating my collection, and since that's one of the reasons people want to get rid of the format (boo!) then you'd best not tell 'them' you do this!

HomerMcvie 10-30-2011 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 1025700)
CD's only get scratched if you're careless! :laugh: I have hundreds of cds, many that I've had for many, many years and they're fine. I just make sure to put them back in the box immediately after playing. They go back in the correct box, with the text facing the way it's supposed to so you can read it. It''s something I'm really anal about. I can't stand to see cds in the wrong boxes or sitting out on the shelf/on top of the stereo when the box is right there! God forbid people leave them shiny side down too... aaarghhh! :mad: I'm the same with dvds.

I also just wouldn't have the storage space for duplicating my collection, and since that's one of the reasons people want to get rid of the format (boo!) then you'd best not tell 'them' you do this!

You leave my beer out of this argument!:mad:

I'm not careless. For me, it seems like the CD players in vehicles scratch them. BECAUSE, I know that the CD was perfect when I put it in, and VISIBLY scratched, when I took it out.

May I add the bonus of - my vehicle has been broken into twice.
100 $15 CDs= $1500
100 20 cent CDs = $20

^^^I challenge anyone to argue with that point...:p

Silver Springs 10-30-2011 01:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1025728)
You leave my beer out of this argument!:mad:

I'm not careless. For me, it seems like the CD players in vehicles scratch them. BECAUSE, I know that the CD was perfect when I put it in, and VISIBLY scratched, when I took it out.

May I add the bonus of - my vehicle has been broken into twice.
100 $15 CDs= $1500
100 20 cent CDs = $20


^^^I challenge anyone to argue with that point...:p

Why not store your CDs in, I don't know.. the house? Then only take the CDs with you that you know you want to listen to on the day? It's better than cluttering the car with lots of rattling cases.

louielouie2000 10-30-2011 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by chriskisn (Post 1025672)
Get with the times people! I haven't played a CD in ages other than in my car (still got to get an aux jack fitted). CDs are yesterday whether you like it or not. I don't care about holding it in my hand, and it will sure save a few trees and emissions from transport so that is a good thing.

I do not look forward to losing books to e-readers though but I'm sure I'll learn to live with that too.

Embrace the future!!! :]

I was so terribly happy when cassettes gave way to CDs. I have LOVED the way personal computers have advanced since the 1980s. Today's modern cars are technological wonders. Give me a DVD any day over a VHS. And today's cheap audio systems sound worlds better than the high end audio systems of 2 decades ago. I have absolutely no aversion to the advancements of electronics. I just don't like buying an invisible product.

I have the same aversion to eBooks. A huge part of the experience of reading is the book itself (this is why I don't buy paperbacks if I don't have to). The binding of the book, the type of paper used, the dust jacket, and even smell of books... I love it all! You just lose so much of the experience if you take all of that away.

McTrouble 10-30-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1025729)
Why not store your CDs in, I don't know.. the house? Then only take the CDs with you that you know you want to listen to on the day? It's better than cluttering the car with lots of rattling cases.

I never take my precious CDs out of the house - any that are played in the car are burned copies of the originals!

HomerMcvie 10-30-2011 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by McTrouble (Post 1025735)
I never take my precious CDs out of the house - any that are played in the car are burned copies of the originals!

We really are twins!:wavey:

HomerMcvie 10-30-2011 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1025729)
Why not store your CDs in, I don't know.. the house? Then only take the CDs with you that you know you want to listen to on the day? It's better than cluttering the car with lots of rattling cases.

Because I have a soft case, that holds 100, in one NEAT small "bible".

starshine 10-30-2011 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Silver Springs (Post 1025584)
I hate downloading music. I don't want to lose CDs just to "move with the times". Why do I have to constantly be forced into this cold and decadent "techno future" when I don't want to be? This is bull****...... I'm in a bad mood now...

Edit: I really couldn't give a tut about magazines, though. I haven't read a magazine in years and I don't plan to.

I totally agree--I still have all of my cds too. We maybe a techno dependent world but things happen & no system is perfect. I also 'love' my cds & I will also purchase them til I can't anymore. Personally, there making a mistake to me. They should at least do LTD Edition versions for those of us that DON'T want to DL stuff. I hate this totally. I still read magazines & books the old fashioned way. I like to 'hold' something in my hands still. I'm on the computer all day at work & I don't want to look at a computer screen again when I get home either. Its a sad sad day. At least to me. :confused::shrug:

Dodfather 10-30-2011 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1025728)
You leave my beer out of this argument!:mad:


May I add the bonus of - my vehicle has been broken into twice.
100 $15 CDs= $1500
100 20 cent CDs = $20

^^^I challenge anyone to argue with that point...:p

Your beer? I'm confused! Please bear in mind that it's sometimes easy to confuse me... :distress::laugh:

Fair point about having less $ in the car if broken into though.

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1025734)
Give me a DVD any day over a VHS. I have the same aversion to eBooks. A huge part of the experience of reading is the book itself (this is why I don't buy paperbacks if I don't have to). The binding of the book, the type of paper used, the dust jacket, and even smell of books... I love it all! You just lose so much of the experience if you take all of that away.

Louie you're so right. DVDs are far better. The only time I prefer vhs is when I'm teaching (which I haven't for a while) because you can have them all cued up and ready to go to show any clip mid lecture. It's tougher to do that with a dvd because you have to ether sit through all the warnings etc mid-class or, if you have it paused at the start, it my have un-paused by the time you get to the clip - bah!

Good call on e-books too. I have refused to get a kindle because I like to read books! I likely will get one for travelling though, I should have recently. That's what I think about these things. Great for tralling but that's it. It's a shame they've fully replaced, or are beginning to replace, the tangible product.

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1025740)
Because I have a soft case, that holds 100, in one NEAT small "bible".

Oh I can't stand having cd boxes in the car. They clutter the car/glove box up, they get broken, cracked, scratched.. no! Much better to put them in a wallet for the car. On my recent trip we had a very tidy wallet that held all our driving cds. Said cds were also sequentially numbered but there were no tracklists... just one massive mix. See - we lived dangerously!

HomerMcvie 10-30-2011 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 1025746)
Your beer? I'm confused! Please bear in mind that it's sometimes easy to confuse me... :distress::laugh:

Oh I can't stand having cd boxes in the car. They clutter the car/glove box up, they get broken, cracked, scratched.. no! Much better to put them in a wallet for the car. On my recent trip we had a very tidy wallet that held all our driving cds. Said cds were also sequentially numbered but there were no tracklists... just one massive mix. See - we lived dangerously!

You said if I was careless....I was tying that to beer!:]


Another point of burning your own....since older albums were only 40 minutes long, I can often fit two, on one CD. Bare Trees and Future Games fits on one!

bluefox4000 10-30-2011 03:49 PM

I buy CD'S but i DO download too.......i'm not that crushed. Times will change and continue to do so. I, For 1 plan to move with them.

Mick

Dodfather 10-30-2011 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1025760)
You said if I was careless....I was tying that to beer!:]


Another point of burning your own....since older albums were only 40 minutes long, I can often fit two, on one CD. Bare Trees and Future Games fits on one!

Beer does have a direct relationship to carelessness, fair enough! :wavey::wavey:

Whenever I copy cds for friends I do like it when I can fit two on one - efficiency! I also love making mix cd's. Basically, High Fidelity was written about me.

HomerMcvie 10-30-2011 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 1025765)
Beer does have a direct relationship to carelessness, fair enough! :wavey::wavey:

Whenever I copy cds for friends I do like it when I can fit two on one - efficiency! I also love making mix cd's. Basically, High Fidelity was written about me.

Unless I'm in an urgent rush, I always fill every CD to capacity. That's where B sides, and live versions go!

Dodfather 10-30-2011 05:34 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 1025770)
Unless I'm in an urgent rush, I always fill every CD to capacity. That's where B sides, and live versions go!

Of course! They're 80 minutes long so why wouldn't you?? I never understand that.

caroline79 10-30-2011 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 1025734)
I was so terribly happy when cassettes gave way to CDs. I have LOVED the way personal computers have advanced since the 1980s. Today's modern cars are technological wonders. Give me a DVD any day over a VHS. And today's cheap audio systems sound worlds better than the high end audio systems of 2 decades ago. I have absolutely no aversion to the advancements of electronics. I just don't like buying an invisible product.

Well said Louie. :thumbsup: This is exactly how I feel.

PenguinHead 10-31-2011 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 1025591)
I read magazines all the time and will miss them immensely. What do you expect an old man to do when he's in the waiting room getting his car fixed?

Read your iPad?

chiliD 10-31-2011 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Dodfather (Post 1025765)
Basically, High Fidelity was written about me.

Huh, uh. :distress: It's about ME! :thumbsup:


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