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mezzoforte 10-17-2011 12:00 PM

Dennis Wilson Biopic
 
Aaron Echart just signed on to play Dennis Wilson in The Drummer, which will cover the last six years of Wilson's life.

I think it's safe to assume the movie will include his relationship with our Christine.

Thoughts? Feelings? Opinions?
And once again, we may turn to the question: who's fit to play Chris?

WildHearted 10-17-2011 12:26 PM

Cate Blanchett?

HejiraNYC 10-17-2011 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte (Post 1023683)
Aaron Echart just signed on to play Dennis Wilson in The Drummer, which will cover the last six years of Wilson's life.

I think it's safe to assume the movie will include his relationship with our Christine.

Thoughts? Feelings? Opinions?
And once again, we may turn to the question: who's fit to play Chris?

Ugh... Aaron Eckhart? Really? He plays the same character in every movie. Unless Dennis Wilson was a sarcastic, snarky, smooth-talking a-hole, I don't see how this casting will work. Isn't Joaquin Phoenix available for this?? Josh Brolin??

Indeed, Christine has to be featured at some point in this movie... although I wonder how they will be able to write this part of ths screenplay without Christine's direct participation. Even though Christine was only in her mid-late 30s at the time, she definitely seemed to come across much more mature or regal, even. And though she had an undeniable physical appeal, she had a bit of a... "funny face," which is pretty much non-existent in the current crop of younger Hollywood actresses; you would never find a young Meryl Streep, Barbra Streisand or Bette Midler in Hollywood today, which is a shame. That being said, given her chameleon-like quality, I think Charlize Theron (with some prosthetics) could probably do Christine well. She seems to have the kind of gravitas needed for this sort of role.

michelej1 10-17-2011 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 1023691)
you would never find a young Meryl Streep, Barbra Streisand or Bette Midler in Hollywood today, which is a shame.

Funny you should say this because I was just thinking Friday that Jennifer Ehle had the look of a young Meryl Streep. Now, I didn't get to see her flex her acting chops that much in Ides, but I thought she had that slightly off-center look.

Michele

TrueFaith77 10-17-2011 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1023685)
Cate Blanchett?

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Charlize Theron
Both are so monstrous. Dear God, No. (I actually think they are probably the two worst actresses in movies today.)

Besides, I believe that Christine contains within her the soul of England. Therefore, I think she should be played by an English actress.

I've been saying Sally Hawkins since BEFORE Happy-Go-Lucky (I loved her in All or Nothing and Vera Drake!). Plus she reminds me of Katrin Cartlidge, who really would have been my choice had she not passed untimely, so it would be almost like she's playing both Katrin and Christine (a la Eddie Izzard playing Charlie Chaplin, but signifying Orson Welles in Cat's Meow).

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 1023691)
Ugh... Aaron Eckhart? Really? He plays the same character in every movie. Unless Dennis Wilson was a sarcastic, snarky, smooth-talking a-hole, I don't see how this casting will work. Isn't Joaquin Phoenix available for this?? Josh Brolin??

Your point is valid about Aaron, until one considers that he recently gave his greatest ever performance, in Battle: Los Angeles. He's everything he's usually not. So soulful, moving, patriotic, humane, hunky. I cried buckets.

Meanwhile, Josh Brolin's inflated ego deflates every role.

WildHearted 10-17-2011 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1023695)
She is so monstrous. Dear God, No.

Besides, I believe that Christine contains within her the soul of England. Therefore, I think she should be played by an English actress.

Oops, I thought Cate Blanchett was English - the only movie I've ever seen that she was in was the one where she played Queen Elizabeth.

She just physically kind of reminds me of Chris for some reason, idk idk.

mezzoforte 10-17-2011 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1023694)
Funny you should say this because I was just thinking Friday that Jennifer Ehle had the look of a young Meryl Streep. Now, I didn't get to see her flex her acting chops that much in Ides, but I thought she had that slightly off-center look.

Michele

Indeed she does. I was just watching Independence Road, and was startled by her Streepishness. But I wouldn't classify Ehle among the pretty ingenues to which Ed refers.

mezzoforte 10-17-2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1023698)
Oops, I thought Cate Blanchett was English - the only movie I've ever seen that she was in was the one where she played Queen Elizabeth.

She just physically kind of reminds me of Chris for some reason, idk idk.

I adore Cate Blanchett, and she certainly plays English well. I'm with you, WildHearted--I think Cate is the best casting we could hope for.

HejiraNYC 10-17-2011 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1023694)
Funny you should say this because I was just thinking Friday that Jennifer Ehle had the look of a young Meryl Streep. Now, I didn't get to see her flex her acting chops that much in Ides, but I thought she had that slightly off-center look.

Michele

Wow, she really does look like Meryl, albeit, a less idiosyncratic version of her; she still has a decidedly mainstream beauty aesthetic about her.

http://desmondwallace.freeblog.hu/fi...er%20Ehle2.jpg

You know it's a sad state of affairs when Jennifer Aniston is cast as the frumpy-looking ex-wife a la "Just Go with It." Call me old school, but I don't think really attractive people (in the conventional sense) can pull off comedy acting.

jbrownsjr 10-17-2011 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte (Post 1023700)
I adore Cate Blanchett, and she certainly plays English well. I'm with you, WildHearted--I think Cate is the best casting we could hope for.

I like her too.

beccamorrisfift 10-17-2011 03:33 PM

I wonder what Christine's thoughts are on this ?
It would be really interesting to see her portrayed by an actress, I can't see any really famous Hollywood woman doing it, I would love it if they found some undiscovered British girl with the same dry wit as Chris.

I adored Joaquin Phoenix in Walk the Line but based on appearance I think they made a decent choice in casting Aaron Eckhart. I'm so intrigued to see this film.

I realize it's a new project but does anyone have any ideas on release dates ?

chiliD 10-17-2011 03:59 PM

I dunno, I kind of like the Aaron Eckhart casting...


http://bp1.blogger.com/_fD8u_13bUcI/...on+Eckhart.jpg


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...nis_Wilson.jpg


...Cate WOULD make a good "Christine McVie", as well...


http://www.makeupfor-women.com/wp-co...anchett-_1.jpg

http://retrorebirth.files.wordpress....ay-july-12.jpg

just too bad that they're on that era because the BEST Christine from The Dance to now is definitely...

http://www1.pictures.zimbio.com/gi/C...XiJYRizf2l.jpg

http://www.fmlegacy.com/Graphics/Christine_092603.jpg

beccamorrisfift 10-17-2011 04:03 PM

McVie and Mirren could be sisters !

chiliD 10-17-2011 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by beccamorrisfift (Post 1023737)
McVie and Mirren could be sisters !

They'd have to be either twins or half-sisters...they're pretty close to the same age.

aleuzzi 10-17-2011 07:50 PM

Cate's too bony and slim. Whoever plays Christine has to be tall, long, but also a bit harder-featured. And she must be able to do that voice!

TrueFaith77 10-17-2011 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1023769)
Cate's too bony and slim. Whoever plays Christine has to be tall, long, but also a bit harder-featured. And she must be able to do that voice!

Ergo: Katrin Cartlidge. :(

or Sally Hawkins!

jbrownsjr 10-17-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 1023769)
Cate's too bony and slim. Whoever plays Christine has to be tall, long, but also a bit harder-featured. And she must be able to do that voice!

And she has to say Shetvie and Shtudio and Linsdeeeee

sushud82 10-18-2011 10:34 AM

I just can't imagine who would really pull off a good Christine. It's hard for me to envision what the role would be like as well - will it be a big part or will she just be in the background? She would've been in her mid 30s then, but her age or look are not necessarily going to be a big concern to filmmakers. Everyone I think of would be too old (Emma Thompson), too young (Cary Mulligan) or too American (Michelle Williams).

elle 10-18-2011 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1023685)
Cate Blanchett?

i second that - she'd be perfect.

TrueFaith77 10-18-2011 01:03 PM

did y'all miss the sally hawkins memo?

elle 10-18-2011 01:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1023843)
did y'all miss the sally hawkins memo?

no. blanchett is much better fit:p

TrueFaith77 10-18-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1023844)
no. blanchett is much better fit:p

Do you hate Christine?

chiliD 10-18-2011 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1023771)
... Katrin Cartlidge...
or Sally Hawkins!

Katrin Cartlidge would be a good Sharon Celani. :shrug: :nod: Christine? Uh....no

Sally Hawkins would be a good Chrissy Hynde. :shrug: :nod: Christine? Again...uh....no.

elle 10-18-2011 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1023847)
Do you hate Christine?

why? i actually like Cate, btw.

TrueFaith77 10-18-2011 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1023851)
why? i actually like Cate, btw.

Well, that is beyond me. You want her to do to the beloved Christine what she did to Katharine Hepburn. :(

TrueFaith77 10-18-2011 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 1023848)
Katrin Cartlidge would be a good Sharon Celani. :shrug: :nod: Christine? Uh....no

Sally Hawkins would be a good Chrissy Hynde. :shrug: :nod: Christine? Again...uh....no.

It's not JUST about appearance. It's about conveying someone's soul. Since Cate has no soul, she's not capable of doing it for anyone, much less Christine McVie (an actual Brit).

elle 10-18-2011 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1023867)
Well, that is beyond me. You want her to do to the beloved Christine what she did to Katharine Hepburn. :(

well, you know more than me - haven't seen her portrayal of Hepburn so i might need to defer to your judgement there. i did like her in the roles i've seen her in and i do think she has physical resemblance, especially face.

i agree that it is not all in the looks, but looks / sound are definitely a big part of it. for example, i hated Joaquin Phoenix in the role of Johnny Cash since he has zero physical resemblance, and more importantly, he sounds nothing like him when he sings. i know he's got all these accolades and awards for the role, but that still means nothing to me. for me one of the essential things about Johnny Cash was his deep gorgeous voice, he could sing anything and it would sound good. and Phoenix sounds nothing like him when he sings, it was like i was not even listening to Cash's songs when they were performed in the movie... so although i liked the movie, i could never really get into it and think that i'm supposed to be watching movie about Cash - it was just a good story that mimicked his life story, but Phoenix was NOT Johnny Cash.

aleuzzi 10-18-2011 05:10 PM

It's possible that the movie won't even feature Christine, that the story will gloss over Wilson's relationship with her and perhaps relegate her to someone who is mentioned but never seen. Wouldn't that be a kick in the pants.

BombaySapphire3 10-18-2011 05:12 PM

True..they did a television biopic and Christine was not in it at all.

michelej1 10-18-2011 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by elle (Post 1023870)
so although i liked the movie, i could never really get into it and think that i'm supposed to be watching movie about Cash - it was just a good story that mimicked his life story, but Phoenix was NOT Johnny Cash.

Reese wasn't June either. She may have done a nice acting job, she may have played part of an interesting country singing duo, but she wasn't June Carter Cash. By contrast, I think Sissy Spacek was Loretta Lynn.

Michele

chiliD 10-18-2011 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1023868)
It's not JUST about appearance. It's about conveying someone's soul. Since Cate has no soul, she's not capable of doing it for anyone, much less Christine McVie (an actual Brit).

No matter, appearance DOES make a difference. At least for me, if the actor/actress is a close resemblance to the person they're portraying, I'll let more slide than if I have to really stretch my imagination to make the portrayer fit the role appearance-wise.

Like that 90's TV bio-drama about the Beach Boys...none of them even came CLOSE to looking like any of the Wilson brothers...it just wasn't believeable to me.


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