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mdakd 09-13-2011 11:52 PM

Stevie Nicks Loves Kate Bush Ahhhhh!!!
 
Just listened to Stevie's selections on the Ken Bruce show where she's doing "Tracks of my Years" and she picked "Running Up That Hill" as one of the songs.

She said she even wanted to record the song after hearing it, but she realized she couldn't outdo it so she didn't. But still! Knowing that she admires Kate Bush....big points Stevie! :thumbsup:

P.S. If you want to listen to it, you can go to the link here and listen to it on the player. It starts around 16:30 with the Eagles story and then goes into it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0140tjc

This is so crazy and music-affirming! :D

mezzoforte 09-13-2011 11:57 PM

Well done, Nicks.

I ove it when Stevie loves the same things I do. It helps me get past her admiration for Katy Perry and for those sparkly, softball-playing vampires.

fringed n fab 09-13-2011 11:59 PM

I've listened to music since I was in Pampers and still have no clue who this Kate Bush is. Is she a UK artist or something and popular over there? Or here?? IDK. :confused: I must've missed her songs on the airwaves.

Pyewacket 09-14-2011 12:00 AM

Ha...I just posted the audio on another thread. :)


Nickingham 09-14-2011 12:07 AM

She's a UK artist that got big in the 80's.And still is.Like Stevie said,Kate Bush is a good writer and I agree but, I don't like the way she sings.

Pyewacket 09-14-2011 12:09 AM

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Originally Posted by fringed n fab (Post 1017370)
I've listened to music since I was in Pampers and still have no clue who this Kate Bush is. Is she a UK artist or something and popular over there? Or here?? IDK. :confused: I must've missed her songs on the airwaves.

Kate Bush has had hits just about everywhere except in the US since her 1978 UK debut. It wasn't until 1985 before Kate had a bona fide hit in the US, which was "Running Up That Hill" (the song Stevie's just said she considered recording). That song only made it to #30 on our charts, and was Kate's only charting US hit.

She's certainly worth a look...she's an amazing songwriter, self-producer and conceptualist (she's long been the director of her own videos). She's been compared with Stevie by many (myself included), but she's really more like Lindsay, being someone who fiddles in the studio with bizarre (often third-world) instruments and creates offbeat soundscapes to accompany her songs.

Here's "Running Up That Hill" for starters. :)

Somajoseph 09-14-2011 12:23 AM

Kate Bush
 
That is so cool! I was literally just watching Kate's video for the Sensual World on You Tube earlier tonight.
I cant say I was a huge fan, but I did buy & enjoy the Sensual World CD back in 89. I think Stevie & Kate have alot in common. Both very unique & feminine artists .

desertangel 09-14-2011 12:29 AM

Yep, I love it when we have the same taste in things too! Loved this song since it came out. It's haunting. Found a copy of the vinyl LP at a thrift store a few years back, burned it onto a mix CD and shared with some folks who also love it. Good stuff! I would be interested in hearing Stevie's interpretation though. Check this one out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DzI0thK61Dc

BombaySapphire3 09-14-2011 12:43 AM

I 've been both a Kate and Stevie fan for decades and had no idea that Stevie had ever considered recording RUTH and she's right she could not do it better than Kate any more than Kate could do Edge better than Stevie. They are both such idiosyncratic singers and writers it makes them very difficult for anyone to cover..just take a listen to Pat Benatar's screechingly awful cover of Kate's Wuthering Heights..what a botch.

Dodfather 09-14-2011 03:22 AM

I love Kate! Her new album, 500 Words For Snow, is out in November - the official annnouncement came earlier this week.

golddustboy71 09-14-2011 03:33 AM

Kate bush is a sublime genius...there is no one really quite like her...best album probaly The Hounds of Love or The Sensual World http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJc64xncBt4

mitzo 09-14-2011 06:06 AM

I adored both Stevie and Kate in the '80's and went for weeks listening to nothing but those two.

I still adore them.

mikebise 09-14-2011 07:43 AM

I would consider "This Woman's Work" to be a true hit in the US for Kate. Just about everyone knows it, whether from its initial release on the 1988 She's Having A Baby soundtrack, its 1989 single release here, and the many cover versions that have been hits.

Kate's gay US audience would probably know her more because of her video hits "Cloudbusting", "Experiment IV", "Love And Anger" and "Rubberband Girl". All of those were insanely popular in Dallas gay bars, and Texas overall.

My ex Eric and I used to think Kate was paying tribute to Stevie's "I Can't Wait" video in "Rubberband Girl" with dancing in front of the giant stairway, like Stevie does. Kate seems to be imitating Janis in there, so why not Stevie, too? ;)

tothegypsy 09-14-2011 08:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Somajoseph (Post 1017383)
That is so cool! I was literally just watching Kate's video for the Sensual World on You Tube earlier tonight.
I cant say I was a huge fan, but I did buy & enjoy the Sensual World CD back in 89. I think Stevie & Kate have alot in common. Both very unique & feminine artists .

If that's the only full album of hers that you've listened to, you must must must try Hounds of Love :)

mezzoforte 09-14-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by tothegypsy (Post 1017423)
If that's the only full album of hers that you've listened to, you must must must try Hounds of Love :)

Seconded! The title track is one of the best songs ever written, imo.

mikebise 09-14-2011 09:00 AM

The Dreaming is my favourite of Kate's, with "Get Out Of My House", "Sat In Your Lap" and "Houdini" as my stand-outs.

I forgot to mention that Kate is also known for being sampled in the massive 1992 hit "Something Good" by Utah Saints, which incorporates "Cloudbusting" in the song and video (listening to it right now!).

In November 1985, People magazine compared Rock A Little and Hounds Of Love, and said that Stevie & Kate were very similar in many ways.

I love Pat's cover of "Wuthering Heights"! It's what got me into Kate Bush in the first place.

Kate's live version of "Running Up That Hill" reminds me of Waddy's guitar somewhat, so I could see Stevie performing it in concert (instead of "Face The Promise"?) ;)

Macfanforever 09-14-2011 09:12 AM

I do like Kate Bush .I wonder why Kate did not do good in the states.Others from UK cleaned house here like now with Adele.

mikebise 09-14-2011 09:22 AM

After Kate's first album, The Kick Inside, failed to take off in the US in 1978 (despite an appearance on Saturday Night Live), the American branch of EMI refused to release her next two albums: Lionheart and Never For Ever.

Luckily, with the rise of MTV and Kate's well-known video presence, EMI America did release The Dreaming when it came out in September 1982. The sticker on The Dreaming even said:

Featuring "Suspended In Gaffa" - As seen on MTV!

There was a huge grassroots campaign of Kate's North American fandom in 1984-1985 to get Kate's name and music more out there in the US and Canada. It was an exciting time! And then to have Kate finally have chart and financial success here with Hounds Of Love was a dream literally come true!

Pyewacket 09-14-2011 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 1017428)
I do like Kate Bush .I wonder why Kate did not do good in the states.Others from UK cleaned house here like now with Adele.

Kate's releasing two albums this year -- the first one debuted at #2 in the UK back in May, blocked from the top spot only by the juggernaut that is Adele.

The next one ("50 Words For Snow," due in November) sounds really promising: a concept album with just seven songs that range from seven to fourteen minutes. I can't wait!

http://c438342.r42.cf2.rackcdn.com/w...s-for-snow.jpg

mikephxaz 09-14-2011 10:11 AM

Kate Bush's songs "A Woman Work" and her duet with Peter Gabriel "Don't Give Up" could be two of the most beautiful songs ever written....watch the video of Don't Give Up....its beautiful!!

TrueFaith77 09-14-2011 10:13 AM

Kate Bush is very simply the greatest female music artist of all time.

Still, I wish she'd retire.


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Originally Posted by Pyewacket (Post 1017437)
Kate's releasing two albums this year -- the first one debuted at #2 in the UK back in May, blocked from the top spot only by the juggernaut that is Adele.


Dat's right! Don't get between Adele and a buffet table.

wheart 09-14-2011 10:22 AM

WOW!! Another reason to love Ms. Nicks (not that I needed anymore!). I wouldn't have pegged Stevie as a Kate Bush fan.

BombaySapphire3 09-14-2011 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1017441)
Kate Bush is very simply the greatest female music artist of all time.

Still, I wish she'd retire.



Really?I think disc 2 of Aerial "A Sky of Honey" is brilliant.Why should she retire:shrug:

mezzoforte 09-14-2011 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1017441)
Kate Bush is very simply the greatest female music artist of all time.

Still, I wish she'd retire.

Really? I really liked Aerial. I'm still not sure about Director's Cut, but I'm just pleased she's still a creative artist. I'll try anything she releases.

Quote:

Dat's right! Don't get between Adele and a buffet table.
*Sigh*
Haven't we all heard enough fat jokes about Adele? Were they ever funny? Her job isn't to look hot for us--it's to sing for us. And she does it brilliantly.

GoldDustBoy 09-14-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 1017447)
Really?I think disc 2 of Aerial "A Sky of Honey" is brilliant.Why should she retire:shrug:

It is brilliant, but I also love A Sea Of Honey. I've been listening to Mrs. Bartolozzi on my ipod during a long bus trip, and I could barely hold the tears. It's a proof that the words "washing machine" can really work in a song. :) I've noticed that many people who like Stevie also like Kate. There is craziness in her music and performance that I can really relate to. :) My favorite albums are Never for Ever, Dreaming, and Lionheart. I also found this on youtube, and I think it sounds really great


Kate Bush & Stevie Nicks - How To Be Invisible/Secret LoveMix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1C0mpt4tr0

TrueFaith77 09-14-2011 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte (Post 1017449)
Really? I really liked Aerial. I'm still not sure about Director's Cut, but I'm just pleased she's still a creative artist. I'll try anything she releases.

Of course, I will try anything she releases as well (I even sat through The Golden Compass for the credits!). Aerial is fine. It's beautiful sounding. But the first disc is uninspired and the second disc is sonically exciting, but I've pulled out all of her previous records regularly. Never Aerial since 2005.

Director's Cut was a red flag.


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Originally Posted by mezzoforte (Post 1017449)
*Sigh*
Haven't we all heard enough fat jokes about Adele? Were they ever funny? Her job isn't to look hot for us--it's to sing for us. And she does it brilliantly.

No. I'm the only person I know who makes them. There should be more. I'm not asking her to look hot for me. I'm asking for her to provide evidence in her music that she has a passion for something other than eating. The indulgence and selfishness that she expresses in her music, the lack of discipline in her vocals, make the outward manifestation of these qualities available to ridicule. It's my (critical) defense against the coursening of the culture that she promotes and from which she benefits. Note that I wasn't simply making a fat joke: I was referring to her personality. There's no compassion in "Rolling in the Deep." Plus, she killed Amy Winehouse.

Conversely, heartbreak brings out the humanity in other plus-size artists. Mama Cass wouldn't step on you on the way to the buffet, I'm sure she'd invite you over to enjoy with her. She'd throw a party. I can tell this from the generousity of her music.

tothegypsy 09-14-2011 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by mezzoforte (Post 1017449)
*Sigh*
Haven't we all heard enough fat jokes about Adele? Were they ever funny? Her job isn't to look hot for us--it's to sing for us. And she does it brilliantly.

Agreed. Even if someone doesn't like her music, there's no need to be crass.

Pyewacket 09-14-2011 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldDustBoy (Post 1017456)
I also found this on youtube, and I think it sounds really great


Kate Bush & Stevie Nicks - How To Be Invisible/Secret LoveMix

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1C0mpt4tr0

I made that earlier this year (before the releases of IYD and DC). Thanks for posting it. :)


Sanne2 09-14-2011 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1017505)
No. I'm the only person I know who makes them. There should be more. I'm not asking her to look hot for me. I'm asking for her to provide evidence in her music that she has a passion for something other than eating. The indulgence and selfishness that she expresses in her music, the lack of discipline in her vocals, make the outward manifestation of these qualities available to ridicule. It's my (critical) defense against the coursening of the culture that she promotes and from which she benefits. Note that I wasn't simply making a fat joke: I was referring to her personality. There's no compassion in "Rolling in the Deep." Plus, she killed Amy Winehouse.

Wow........

BombaySapphire3 09-14-2011 06:25 PM

To get back on topic ..somewhat I could not be more excited about Kate's upcoming new concept album..Few artists can really pull off a concept album ..Pink Floyd in their prime are one of course and Kate's two concept pieces The Ninth Wave and A Sky of Honey are their equals IMO. I'll admit that The Red Shoes and A Sea of Honey had some less than stellar moments to me but a Sky of Honey released just six years ago is incredible.It is absolute rubbish that she should retire.Not only that she is over a decade younger than La Nicks.:rolleyes:

BombaySapphire3 09-14-2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 1017505)




Plus, she killed Amy Winehouse.
.

Huh ?did I miss something ?Were they flatmates sharing the same pantry :shrug:

DeeGeMe 09-14-2011 07:49 PM

I've also been a fan of both Stevie and Kate for years. Stevie is still my all-time fav but Kate ranks right up there too. I'd also add "The Red Shoes" to the must Kate lps.

bombaysaffires 09-14-2011 09:50 PM

Thanks for this link, I LOVE this song. haven't seen the video in decades but watching it again I see some total similarities to this and some of Stevie's videos.... the big windows full of light ,the shadow of the window panes on the floor reminds me of almost identical scenes in the I Can't Wait video and the scene where she dances with the guy (starting around 2:41 in the video) is verrry reminiscent of the If Anyone Falls video.

Pyewacket 09-15-2011 01:07 AM

For those interested in what "50 Words For Snow" holds in store for us, I am copying and pasting this post from everautumn in the KateBushNews&Information forum. I abbreviated his preamble (since it's probably bad form to post any of his wording at all -- sorry!):

"The BBC released a long version of Kate's interview with John Wilson for Front Row which ... indicated that Kate wanted to meet at her home studio so that she could resume work following the interview. The chat focused largely on Director's Cut, of course, but they did touch on the next recording. She actually reveals slightly more than I realized at the time."

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JOHN WILSON: ...And in the studio you’ve obviously been reworking these songs and seeking new inspiration and reinterpretation and it’s sparked off the process of recording new material. So you’ve finished this record, Director’s Cut, but you’re now working on another album? How far through are you?

KATE BUSH: Yes. Well, the Director’s Cut has been finished for quite a while and although there were loose ends that had to be sorted, like the mastering and the artwork, which took a while, I started recording this new record quite soon. I’ve done most of the writing.

JW: And how does the writing start? In a notebook? Are you sitting at the table writing lyrics first? Or does it always start with the suggestion of a melody or some kind of rhythm even?

KB: Well, I’ve put a packet of bone meal on my piano. And it seems to be helping the sort of blossoming of the songs.

JW: Bone meal? That you would normally put in the garden?

KB Yes. I mean, it wasn’t deliberate – I was en route to the garden and I happened to have a packet of bone meal and just left it on the piano and it was there for a few days. And then I’d noticed actually that I’d written a couple of songs since it’d been there so I thought I’d just leave it there and see if it sped the process up a bit (laughs).

JW: It’s working its magic through the ivories somehow?

KB Yeah.

JW: Can you give us any idea what the songs are sounding like? Is it going to be very different to this set you presented in the Director’s Cut?

KB: Yeah, they’re quite bone mealy, I think (laughs).

JW: More organic?

KB: I think they’re different. I think they’re quite different, but then, that’s very important with me for each album, that it feels like I’m doing something different. So hopefully there’s something that’s a new approach or a new sort of genre that’s evolved in each album.

JW: So Aerial was very electronic in a way and there’s a lot of soundscapes on that record. And you can get lost in a world of Aerial. And with this record, with the revisiting of Sensual World and The Red Shoes on Director’s Cut, I think there’s a great sense of intimacy. So, where’s the new album going to sit? Somewhere between those two?

KB: It’s very difficult to talk about work in progress, because it is an evolving process and even if I was able to talk about it now, it might completely change in a few weeks. And so, it’d no longer be relevant.

JW: And are you writing as quickly as when you were 20 years old? I mean, from start to finish, from putting a melody down or first lyric to finishing the song?

KB: Well the song writing is normally quite quick. But the arrangement and production can sometimes take a bit longer. But with quite a few of these new songs, I’ve kind of gone back to an older approach where I would sit at the piano and just keep working them. So they’re much more kind of “worked in” before they go into the studio.

JW: And thematically, lyrically, are they stories or do you look at yourself? Are they autobiographical songs? ‘Cos you’ve really always been a narrative lyricist.

KB: I think telling stories is the kind of buzz for me, really. And although obviously my life does seep into my work – it would be impossible for it not to – I don’t think I could say really any of my work is autobiographical. Maybe “Moments of Pleasure” touches on stuff that has actually happened, most of it is just made up story, but I’m putting experiences that I’ve had into it.

JW: …Very often you are looking to literature for inspiration. Does that still happen?

KB: I’ve always found reading a book a very powerful experience. I read a lot when I was very young and I think it’s an important thing to do, to read a lot of books. But I think there’s all kinds of places inspiration can come from, whether it’s a book or a film or maybe something that somebody just says or a thought that pops into your head… The whole thing is such an elusive process.

JW: …And is there a master plan, then? You’re putting Director’s Cut out and you’re working on a new album, as-yet-untitled, you don’t know how it’s going to sound, even, but you’ve got how many songs – most of them written?

KB: Um… yeah.

JW: (Laughs) You’re not gonna give too much away about this, are you?

KB: No, I just think you can’t talk about something that isn’t finished. You know, I might end up with twice the amount of songs I’ve got.

JW: When do you expect it to be heard?

KB: Well, I suppose like all my records, I hope that they’ll be very quick and easy to make. So, let’s see.

JW: Next year? Couple of years?

KB: I don’t know. The most important thing is that it’s got something hopefully of worth to send out there, otherwise you wouldn’t put it out. It’s very frustrating that albums take as long as they do and I wish there weren’t such big gaps between them. Sometimes it’s extremely stressful.

fumidesigns 09-15-2011 08:32 AM

*lowers head in shame* Who's Kate Bush? I don't think I've ever heard her music.

Sanne2 09-15-2011 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by fumidesigns (Post 1017667)
*lowers head in shame* Who's Kate Bush? I don't think I've ever heard her music.

Im surprised there are even people that have never heard of her. Especially since most SN fans like Kate Bush too. I didn't realise she wasn't as huge in America as she was/is in Europe.
You have probably heard her music, and if you've lived through the eighties you've atleast seen her pretty face several times on MTV.

TrueFaith77 09-15-2011 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by fumidesigns (Post 1017667)
*lowers head in shame* Who's Kate Bush? I don't think I've ever heard her music.

She's the greatest female music artist of all time. If you are interested in exploring her work, I recommend starting from the beginning (The Kick Inside) and moving forward to more wonders. On that album, she has a song called "Man With the Child In His Eyes", which I always connect to "Beautiful Child" (though they are dealing with VERY different circumstances--or are they? ;) ).

Also, for more Stevie comparisons sake, I always refer to "Ghosts Are Gone" as a white trash version of Kate Bush's "Get Out of My House" post-break up exorcism. That's from Bush's definitive The Dreaming album (possibly her best work, though Hounds of Love is the opus).

In contrast, I had written elsewhere on the board, that I feel like Kate and Stevie have very different approaches to appropriating other artworks (movies, especially) for the use of their songs. Kate always digs deeply into moments or aspects of a movie and gives it fully explored depth--but kind of on its own terms. Stevie, on the other hand, appropriates those images, moments, elements for how they resonate with her own personal emotions. Both approaches are fascinating and often result in beautiful songs.

fumidesigns 09-15-2011 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Sanne2 (Post 1017670)
Im surprised there are even people that have never heard of her. Especially since most SN fans like Kate Bush too. I didn't realise she wasn't as huge in America as she was/is in Europe.
You have probably heard her music, and if you've lived through the eighties you've atleast seen her pretty face several times on MTV.

I'm definitely an 80s baby! Maybe I just don't know her name. I'll google and see what songs she has from back then.

golddustboy71 09-15-2011 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by fumidesigns (Post 1017667)
*lowers head in shame* Who's Kate Bush? I don't think I've ever heard her music.

watch and learn http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5P0v0kGauc

TrueFaith77 09-15-2011 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by golddustboy71 (Post 1017675)

OMG, she can't START with Moments of Pleasure!

You have to be fully immersed in Kate and then when you discover that song--the effect is devestating!

I also wrote a (rather dense) piece on Kate Bush's Love and Anger video. For Bush fans, I hope it's enjoyed. For the uninitiated, it might be confusing.

http://johndemetry.blogspot.com/2007...of-bushes.html


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