The "In Your Dreams" Survivor Thread - Round Six
 

Here is what you have voted out so far:

Round One: Cheaper Than Free
Round One: My Heart
Round Two: Soldier's Angel
Round Two: Everybody Loves You
Round Three: Ghosts Are Gone
Round Three: New Orleans
Round Four: Secret Love
Round Four: Italian Summer
Round Five: In Your Dreams
Round Five: Wide Sargasso Sea


Onto Round six...

You May Be the One and For What it's Worth. I can't bring myself to choose between Moonlight and Annabel Lee.

Annabelee should have been gone a loooonnnnnggggg time ago..because the song is sooooooo lllooooonngggggg.....it goes ooooooooonnnnnnnn and oooooonnnnnnn and ooooooonnnn and oooooonnnnn:shocked:

Who on earth is so damned keen on You May Be The One it's complete filler to me.

Getting rid of You May Be The One and Moonlight. Annabel Lee and For What It's Worth are my favorites on the album. And You May Be The One is rather unspectacular.

Painful to see my beloved WSS go.

Annabel Lee was the easy choice for me, but YMBTO was painful. I just couldn't touch FWIW or Moolight, though.
God, this album is brilliant.

Yeah, I'm annoyed that WSS got voted off. But at least I won't be put in the position of having to vote for it.

Moonlight, Annabel Lee, & WSS are my favorite songs from this album.

Anabelle Lee and YMBTO...I really didn't want to vote any of them off. But especially YMBTO...this just keeps getting harder!!

:lol: lol...i have been voting for it to go faithfully since round 2. i'm really sad that WSS is gone already... but , oh well, to each their own.

Would be nice if she and Annabel Lee could just lay down really quick like without talking about it in repetition for three minutes straight.

Michele

too funny...just lay down already!:blob1:

YMBTO was easy FWIW wasn't but Moonlight and Annabel Lee are the centerpiece of this album and possibly her best segue on any album.

IMO "Annabel Lee' has the worst vocal and blandest melody on the album. FWIW could have been pretty great but for that coarse/flat/GodsGardenesque quality to her voice on the chorus.
I am happy that "Moonlight" & YMBTO made it this far.

- Jake

Still fervently voting to kill FWIW and AL. I just want to ask Stevie why, why why the hell....

I completely agree.

That coda is what makes the song so epic and special though. Without it, the song would be good but not as classic as it is.

Me too...."Moonlight" and "Annabel Lee" are of the same level of quality as Stevie's classic songs. The YMBTO fans are pretty fervent about keeping it going. It would have been my fourth vote off (after "My Heart", "Ghosts Are Gone" and "Soldier's Angel" in that order).

FWIW (and I liked it at first! Just sick. Of. It. Already.) and Annabel Lee.

YMBTO jumped out at me the first time I listened.

Annabel Lee and Moonlight to go.

Ho Hum, I cast my votes for Annabel Lee & FWIW. And "For What Its Worth" I believe the 4 songs remaining deserve to be in the final four. :thumbsup:
If I were giving a casual fan an ad hoc preview of IYD, I would most definitely include these four tunes, along with New Orleans, In Your Dreams or Wide Sargasso Sea.

Well, that was torture. Went for FWIW and YMBTO, but I love them both. I just love the beautiful Annabel Lee and Moonlight a smidgen more......

Funny, looking back and remembering how horrified a lot of us were when we heard on the grapevine that Stevie had written a song inspired by Twilight, huh? :cool:

Moonlight.... incoherent remnant from the drug years. Be gone!

I don't think it's classic.

Although I think the overall execution is an improvement on the demo, I think it should have been edited a bit.

Michele

Yup, Annabel Lee is a pretentious nonsensical effort at putting an irrelevant and inappropriate poem to very pedestrian music, while FWIW is basso profundo flat vocals over a sleepy, depressing, irritating arrangement.

Moonlight or YMBTW if we must. Sigh....

I'm not sure I understand the first bit of that. Are you saying the music is too pedestrian for Poe's poem? Is that what makes the poem irrelevant? Or is the poem irrelevant in another way, to something else?

A druggy past that includes Dreams,Gold Dust Woman .Silver Springs.Sisters of the Moon , Sara , Storms ,Gypsy and Edge of Seventeen...Think I'll take that songwriting era over the Klonopin middle or the clear eyed present.

Moonlight and You May Be The One, I love all four songs, but For What It's Worth is my favourite from IYD, and Annabel Lee may just have the prettiest music from any Stevie Nicks track... ever.

Just curious why does ahafan keep mis-spelling "Annabel Lee"?

Yes, I'm curious too.

I agree that the music is pedestran, but I'd hardly consider Poe's poem irrelevant. Inappropriate . . . well maybe in the necrophiliac sense. If it's about his wife/cousin the 13 year old that's creepy too. But what is tedious in a song means a lot to me in the poem.

In the poem the repetition not only stresses the depth of his feeling and agony, but his growing irrationality and madness. In that sense, it reminds me of The Bells -- another poem Stevie should not try to sing.

The actual poem carries a petulance and resentment that the song lacks and I think it captures that anger you get when a loved one is taken away. You feel a "too good for this cruel world" thing and start to wonder why someone you love was taken when less worthy people are roaming around leading meaningless lives in perfect health.

I think that's a phase of grief that they should talk about more. You go through denial and anger, but the anger has multi-folds. It can be made up of paranoia and resentment too. You're mad at the person who left, but you're also mad at the world that took them. The God (or angels) who spirited them away, but there's also a resentment, a jealousy towards those who still live. Poe's guy said that the angels were jealous of Annabel, but I think he was kind of jealous that the people who survive have lives and passions inferior to his own and they can still enjoy them.

I think the emotion the poem deals with is quite potent.

Michele

The poem was written long ago by a man about a girl, which makes it an irrelevant theme for a song by Stevie, who is a woman. To me it makes no sense. Why couldn't she have been inspired by the poem and adapt it to be more appropriate? The melody and arrangement of AL is pedestrian, to me, quite ordinary, and fails to compensate for the way offbase lyrics.

I simply cannot see where the love for this song comes from. I am baffled by both the song and the reaction to it.

Just opinion, is all.

Well, I agree in a sense. I don't want her to adapt the poem and change gender or anything, but I think it's one of those things you can be deeply inspired by but not exactly want to hear with music. Just because the lines are sing-songy doesn't mean they should be sung.

I think you can take the spark of an idea and incorporate it, which is what Lindsey did with A Dream Within a Dream, but not all good poems make good lyrics -- and vice versa.

Michele

:thumbsup:i totally agree with this!

Granted, the drugs were there throughout, but the songs you mention, especially the true classics like Dreams, Sisters, Sara, Storms were before the drugs really took over. And Stevie herself has said that Jimmy really disliked her using drugs and she tried hard to cut back while they were together (Edge of 17).....

I feel exactly the same

me too, this is definitely an album, where the 2nd half is stronger than the first, which I actually love.

I don't think it's irrelevant - I relate to a lot of poems/songs that are written from a man's perspective about a woman.. love is love. If she was inspired/touched by it, then how could it possibly be irrelevant to her? And it being from that perspective doesn't mean it is inappropriate.. she's just singing from someone elses point of view, or maybe her own, depending on who Annabel Lee is to her personally.

I'll belt out 'Yesterday' and keep the female pronouns in tact, because that's how it was written and who am I to change it? The meaning is still the same.

Yup, I agree 100%. Love is love indeed.

This is interesting, and I'm wondering why that atmospheric disconnect didn't occur to me before. What you have in Stevie's track is a great pop hook applied to something altogether much more angry and twisted. I'm going to have to watch this doesn't spoil AL for me! :laugh:

I don't think it will, though. I think what I immediately connected with in the track was the coda, from the drum break, that kind of stomping 'I lie down' repetition. Maybe that's a hint of fierceness coming through? I don't know. I'm content to keep living with it and let it evolve.

Loz

I'm just as baffled that anyone could not like it. Just like I'm baffled that anyone could not like Bella Donna. To me, it's the same as not liking water or sunshine.

That's why it reminds me of Gypsy. If you don't pay attention, it sounds just like a catchy, relatively happy little tune, nothing too serious or anything. But then you listen to the words carefully and you're like damn, this is kind of depressing..