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bombaysaffires 09-08-2011 06:49 PM

Love Is.....Lindsey?
 
so......does this mean Love Is is about Lindsey? :O

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...-show-20110527

"the singer concluded her main set with a disco-grungy "Edge of Seventeen," then returned to the stage for "Love Is," a gorgeous piano ballad she said dates back to her earliest days with Buckingham"

tothegypsy 09-08-2011 07:19 PM

I noticed that but assumed it was a mistake, since I think she's been pretty clear that Love Is was written in the 90s.

bombaysaffires 09-08-2011 07:22 PM

maybe it's part of her continuing efforts to whitewash Joe Walsh out of her life.....;)

WildHearted 09-08-2011 09:24 PM

They must have gotten confused with Moonlight?

Was anyone at that show and can confirm? Maybe she just meant that the inspiration dates back that far... hasn't she said it was written in the 90's?

michelej1 09-08-2011 11:12 PM

Does Lindsey have soft lips?

Michele

bombaysaffires 09-08-2011 11:30 PM

Wouldn't we all like to know.....sigh....

MrStevie 09-09-2011 12:54 AM

I know what I'm thinking when I stare at a photo of Stevie. Are we sure that line is about the man? :shrug:

WildHearted 09-09-2011 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MrStevie (Post 1015601)
I know what I'm thinking when I stare at a photo of Stevie. Are we sure that line is about the man? :shrug:

Interesting.

Could it be..

Love is, "You've got the softest lips"

Like someone is saying it to her? hmmmm.

MrStevie 09-09-2011 01:28 AM

I always heard "Love Is" as a conversation not a narrative.

bombaysaffires 09-09-2011 06:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MrStevie (Post 1015607)
I always heard "Love Is" as a conversation not a narrative.

Me too.....

mitzo 09-09-2011 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1015630)
Me too.....

Me too - bits of conversation between lovers over time, one of whom ends it abruptly, and the other one then has learned everything about love, how it grows and dies.

fumidesigns 09-09-2011 10:13 AM

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Originally Posted by MrStevie (Post 1015607)
I always heard "Love Is" as a conversation not a narrative.

ditto! i've always heard it this way too!!!

tothegypsy 09-09-2011 10:33 AM

Did she say she had considered making it a duet? Or am I imagining that?

glamorousnymph 09-09-2011 11:15 AM

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Originally Posted by tothegypsy (Post 1015676)
Did she say she had considered making it a duet? Or am I imagining that?

Oh, thank goodness she didn't. That would have been ubercorny.

Travisevian 09-09-2011 12:04 PM

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Originally Posted by bombaysaffires (Post 1015480)
so......does this mean Love Is is about Lindsey? :O

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/ne...-show-20110527

"the singer concluded her main set with a disco-grungy "Edge of Seventeen," then returned to the stage for "Love Is," a gorgeous piano ballad she said dates back to her earliest days with Buckingham"

What an unusual description of Edge Of Seventeen.

Christopher 09-09-2011 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by glamorousnymph (Post 1015690)
Oh, thank goodness she didn't. That would have been ubercorny.

That's funny! Reminded me that my brother, after 1st hearing this song when TISL was released, he said, "this song sounds like it should have been a duet!?" :laugh: Because of the question/answer calling lyrics...kinda like in Cheaper Than Free ;)

wheart 09-09-2011 01:57 PM

I've wondered about "Love Is" for years now. She's mentioned she wrote it right after the Street Angel tour. But now with the revelations found in "For What It's Worth", it only makes sense that "Love Is" probably is about the same forbidden, life saving relationship that is addressed in "For What It's Worth".

LilyRose 09-09-2011 02:51 PM

She introduces Love Is much the same way she writes (and talks) about FWIW in the liner notes. I believe they're about the same person.

jellyman10 09-09-2011 03:03 PM

Yes, I see connection with FWIW too. 'Love is knowing you won't let go'. Similar sentiment, I think, kind of about love that's deeper than romantic love, but might start that way. I think it's possible for it to have become relevant to Lindsey, the way they are now, but that's not the same as saying it was 'about' him at its genesis.

GoldDustWoman22 09-09-2011 04:45 PM

I honestly think that even though Stevie might have an original person in mind when she writes the song...it probably changes for her when she sings it live. "Love Is" is a beautiful and pretty accessible song. I agree about it being the same person as FWIW was about. But what made her want to do it on this tour? Who was she thinking of when she said let's do this as the encore! I don't know...it could very well be about Lindsey some nights (it certainly applies to their relationship), and it could be about others on another night. Whatever she is feeling inside is the person she is thinking of when she sings the song. And I'm sure that on her other ballads such as HAEWAFY, Joe Walsh was not the only person she thought of when she sang the song. And I'm sure that putting new meanings to old songs certainly keeps their value fresh for Stevie. She's been through a lot since she first wrote "Dreams" and I'm sure the song has taken on multiple meanings for her over the years. It's similar to how she dedicates "Landslide" to a different person each night. It has been said that when Stevie wrote "Gypsy" Robin wasn't in mind. But I'm sure when she performed the song, the event of her death inevitably became part of the song's meaning for Stevie. Except she does these in her own heart. Stevie's songs have a universal quality to them which means they could pretty much apply to any deep, meaningful relationship.:)

glamorousnymph 09-09-2011 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Christopher (Post 1015763)
That's funny! Reminded me that my brother, after 1st hearing this song when TISL was released, he said, "this song sounds like it should have been a duet!?" :laugh: Because of the question/answer calling lyrics...kinda like in Cheaper Than Free ;)

And we know how well that turned out! :xoxo:

bombaysaffires 09-09-2011 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by wheart (Post 1015786)
I've wondered about "Love Is" for years now. She's mentioned she wrote it right after the Street Angel tour. But now with the revelations found in "For What It's Worth", it only makes sense that "Love Is" probably is about the same forbidden, life saving relationship that is addressed in "For What It's Worth".

"do not call or come around here, do not tell" certainly dovetails with "forbidden" love. and of course the line "you know that I cannot stay"..."we knew it couldn't last"

michelej1 09-09-2011 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldDustWoman22 (Post 1015818)
I honestly think that even though Stevie might have an original person in mind when she writes the song...it probably changes for her when she sings it live.

I've thought the same thing about Angel and BATB, that the person they were written for might not be the person they ended up being about as she performed it.

Michele

Deeshere 08-27-2013 01:29 AM

Has it ever been determined who Stevie wrote this song about? I've never seen her specifically say who it was written about.

I know she said it was written in the 90's and when she introduced it at her birthday concert 2011. She said it was taking the place of Beauty and the Beast, and Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You, as the last song at her solo tour, so it is VERY significant/special to her.

I actually think it was written about Lindsey for 2 reasons:

1) the line that says "she awakens things he said he though were dead". It makes me think of when she and lindsey would not see each other for a while, until they get back together to record a new Fleetwood Mac CD and then the old warm fuzzy feelings come back while they are recording and then touring.

2) is I think the most telling line "knowing you won't let go" I really cannot think of anyone else that line could be direct to or about other than Lindsey.

Regardless of who the song is about, it's very beautiful and I love it. I was just curious if anyone else had any ideas about who or what the song was about.

BrownEyedGirl26 08-27-2013 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1015603)
Interesting.

Could it be..

Love is, "You've got the softest lips"

Like someone is saying it to her? hmmmm.

Yes, I've always thought someone said that to her also!

CADreaming 08-27-2013 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Deeshere (Post 1101189)
Has it ever been determined who Stevie wrote this song about? I've never seen her specifically say who it was written about.

I know she said it was written in the 90's and when she introduced it at her birthday concert 2011. She said it was taking the place of Beauty and the Beast, and Has Anyone Ever Written Anything For You, as the last song at her solo tour, so it is VERY significant/special to her.

Stevie also said it was part of a trilogy with BATB and HAEWAFY, which would lead one to think all of the songs were about the same person. She has said that BATB was about Mick and about Lindsey, but she said she wrote HAEWAFY for Joe Walsh, although she said he had helped her get through something that was going on in her life and that was why he drove her to see the fountain he built for his deceased daughter, which is what prompted her to write the song. But, especially the line where she says, "It was easy to say I believed in you everyday, if not for me then do it for the world," that makes me think of Lindsey.

Deeshere 08-27-2013 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1101216)
Stevie also said it was part of a trilogy with BATB and HAEWAFY, which would lead one to think all of the songs were about the same person. She has said that BATB was about Mick and about Lindsey, but she said she wrote HAEWAFY for Joe Walsh, although she said he had helped her get through something that was going on in her life and that was why he drove her to see the fountain he built for his deceased daughter, which is what prompted her to write the song. But, especially the line where she says, "It was easy to say I believed in you everyday, if not for me then do it for the world," that makes me think of Lindsey.

You could be right about BATB (forgot she said Lindsey was also the beast, or actually I think she said she and Lindsey were both beast and there was no beauty :laugh:) and HAEWAFY, I never thought about it that way.

When she mentioned it as part of the trilogy, I was thinking that the trilogy was about the 3 most important loves in her life BATB for Mick, HAEWAFY for Joe and Love Is for Lindsey.

bombaysaffires 08-27-2013 02:36 PM

hmm... I could easily see the storyline of BATB (the original story, the one that's been around forever and ever and the inspiration for movies and tv shows) fitting in with the story of the lyrics of Love Is--- the story of someone who clearly loves the other person but can't be with them (in this case because of his disfigurement and how unaccepting society would be of the relationship). So if she were saying that tragic love story of two people who can't be together (her favorite kind) inspired both BATB and Love Is, I could see that.

She says she wrote the song BATB after seeing the Jean Cocteau film version of the story. There's even audio floating around of her describing the movie to someone (Tom Petty?) in the studio and how fabulous it was. Now if after writing it it the story reminded her of her and Mick, so be it. I've not heard her say that it reminds her of her and LB, but that wouldn't surprise me. EVERYTHING reminds her of Lindsey. :shrug:

She clearly has said Has Anyone Written.. was about Joe (at the time it was written). I get that over the years things can happen in your life that make you look back at a song and see how it applies to other relationships, although that particular song seems awfully *specific*.

I don't recall her saying anything directly about Love Is, but I was totally distracted with grad school when that album came out and didn't follow her interviews on it very closely. I had kind of assumed it was about Rupert Hine and their whole thing because of whatever it was she said (in the liner notes to Enchanted?), something about "we couldn't be together, it wasn't anything to do with love" but due to something else (him being married??) which is echoed in the lyrics.

But it's Stevie, so who the hell knows?

WildHearted 08-27-2013 07:21 PM

I always thought she meant it was a part of a trilogy in the sense that they are her "piano ballads." Actually, I think she specifically said that.. I never got the feeling she meant it had anything to do with the songs thematically or inspiration wise.

CADreaming 08-27-2013 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1101255)
I always thought she meant it was a part of a trilogy in the sense that they are her "piano ballads." Actually, I think she specifically said that.. I never got the feeling she meant it had anything to do with the songs thematically or inspiration wise.

Oh I never heard her say that. Aren't all her songs piano ballads? :laugh:

Maybe that's what she meant though and when I heard her say it she just left that part out.

Deeshere 08-27-2013 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1101255)
I always thought she meant it was a part of a trilogy in the sense that they are her "piano ballads." Actually, I think she specifically said that.. I never got the feeling she meant it had anything to do with the songs thematically or inspiration wise.

You maybe right, but she made it seem like it might be important she said " I said Lori this is....this is the 3rd piano ballad..this is...I probably won't write another song like this, this is that kind of song. As those 2 songs were(which were BATB & HAWEFY)

MikeInNV 08-27-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1101255)
I always thought she meant it was a part of a trilogy in the sense that they are her "piano ballads." Actually, I think she specifically said that.. I never got the feeling she meant it had anything to do with the songs thematically or inspiration wise.

She did specifically say that.....I heard it at a couple shows at least.

gldstwmn 08-28-2013 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by mitzo (Post 1015643)
Me too - bits of conversation between lovers over time, one of whom ends it abruptly, and the other one then has learned everything about love, how it grows and dies.

This. :( :(


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