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GoldDustWoman22 08-28-2011 11:52 AM

Moonlight
 
Ok I have always loved this song. I loved it live and love the IYD version. The only thing I'm not too keen on is the influence of the song:roll eyes:. Although said influence gave us such a great song so I can't really complain. But the beginning of the song just hit me. Hard. I just moved to a new college so the whole she's lost, disconnected and finds no comfort in her her surroundings and moving from situation to situation like a ghost i is my life right now and to on the mark to what I'm feeling to be true!! I just think it's funny how I have been listening to this song for almost 4 months and now that particular song just struck a chord with me...funny how that works out. It was weird because I woke up this morning and was like "I need to listen to "Moonlight"! I don;t even know where it came from. Stevie thanks for writing lyrics that apply so well to my life. It makes me feel less alone. Just thought I'd share with you guys. Haven't met any Stevie fans up here in NY yet
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wild-heart 08-28-2011 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldDustWoman22 (Post 1011541)
Ok I have always loved this song. I loved it live and love the IYD version. The only thing I'm not too keen on is the influence of the song:roll eyes:. Although said influence gave us such a great song so I can't really complain. But the beginning of the song just hit me. Hard. I just moved to a new college so the whole she's lost, disconnected and finds no comfort in her her surroundings and moving from situation to situation like a ghost i is my life right now and to on the mark to what I'm feeling to be true!! I just think it's funny how I have been listening to this song for almost 4 months and now that particular song just struck a chord with me...funny how that works out. It was weird because I woke up this morning and was like "I need to listen to "Moonlight"! I don;t even know where it came from. Stevie thanks for writing lyrics that apply so well to my life. It makes me feel less alone. Just thought I'd share with you guys. Haven't met any Stevie fans up here in NY yet
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OMG I feel exactly the same, I was walking back from town one day and i listened to this and I really really had to try so hard not to cry. Like you said the she's lost, disconnected. She finds no comfort in her surroundings bit that hit me bad. I've been thinking a lot just lately how much everything has changed and that pretty much sums up how I feel about everything and going back to college in a few weeks. A place where i never feel like i fit in.

GoldDustWoman22 08-28-2011 03:14 PM

I agree! I mean this is my first year but I've never lived this far away from home before. I am just thankful that I have music to listen to that makes me feel less alone! I'm sure it will get better for you too...it's just a really weird homesick feeling I'm getting right now. I just moved in yesterday though so hopefully that's normal.

Jondalar 08-28-2011 03:24 PM

I like the lyrics to this song alot,

wild-heart 08-28-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldDustWoman22 (Post 1011591)
I agree! I mean this is my first year but I've never lived this far away from home before. I am just thankful that I have music to listen to that makes me feel less alone! I'm sure it will get better for you too...it's just a really weird homesick feeling I'm getting right now. I just moved in yesterday though so hopefully that's normal.

aww i hope you feel better about the situation soon, i'm pretty sure it's normal to feel a little lost in a totally new place. I'm sure everything will settle down and you will get used to it. (: It's the total opposite for me, i still live at home and thats fine but i just don't want to go back to the college. I am sure when i go back in a few weeks everything will be alright and i will feel fine again :D Well thats the plan anyway. Good luck and have fun living away. :D

GoldDustWoman22 08-28-2011 03:48 PM

Thanks I hope so...I also think that the presence of Irene is not really making the transition any easier. It's very windy and story right now.

tabruns 08-28-2011 04:14 PM

I love this song. It's been my favorite on the album since the first time I heard it. I really think its a Stevie classic, right up there with "Gypsy" and "Landslide". Stevie sings the beginning part of a song in a quality of voice that I didn't know she could even do anymore. When I first heard it, I thought "oh my god this is almost like Stevie pre-Tusk!" I love the chorus. The coda is amazing.

Several reviewers have mentioned that some songs on IYD approach classic Fleetwood Mac levels of greatness, and I agree: "For What It's Worth", "New Orleans", "Moonlight" and "Annabel Lee" would all fit comfortably on Fleetwood Mac or Rumours.

Morgana 08-28-2011 05:24 PM

For me Moonlight impacted me deeply because when IYD's came out it was the last month of work for me and the end of the work year. I made the decision to end my stressful career about the time IYD's came out. I was feeling really disconnected and really connected to the song. I played Moonlight a lot and still do because I relate to it on a lot of different levels.

Here's wishing you GDW22 & Wild-Heart the best in college! It's rough at first, but.....then you have Stevie to help you through! :)

markolas 08-28-2011 06:20 PM

I love what Stevie did with LFTM. I've never read the Twilight books or seen the movies, so I'm indifferent to that part of it. But she took the best parts of LFTM and wrote a great chorus for it. To me, Moonlight is a classic up there with Edge of Seventeen and Rhiannon.

Christopher 08-28-2011 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 1011650)
I love what Stevie did with LFTM. I've never read the Twilight books or seen the movies, so I'm indifferent to that part of it. But she took the best parts of LFTM and wrote a great chorus for it. To me, Moonlight is a classic up there with Edge of Seventeen and Rhiannon.

IA. It doesn't even matter to me what inspired it - which identically applies to the song "Trouble in Shangri-La" - cause in the end inside Stevie's twisted creative brain its always about her anway;). Though I've never seen "New Moon" or any of that other series (or care to), It never crosses my mind when I hear this song. Its sooooo much more than that, especially since the song is anchored in the age-old "Lady From The Mountain" demo.

On Ice 08-28-2011 08:14 PM

I have to agree with tabruns about the quality of Stevie's vocal on Moonlight, it is superb. Ok, I'll say my first critical thing about Stevie's amazing In Your Dreams Album. I love Moonlight, but it could easily have stayed Lady from the Mountain and kept the delicious verse "that woman could make you...crazzy!" and take that lady out of her chair after months just staring. (sorry Stevie, it's a great line, but), and I think someone mentioned what a great album title that LFTM would make, I agree. It would pay homage to one of Stevie's best compositions ever, and us die-hards would just love it.

WildHearted 08-28-2011 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by On Ice (Post 1011668)
I have to agree with tabruns about the quality of Stevie's vocal on Moonlight, it is superb. Ok, I'll say my first critical thing about Stevie's amazing In Your Dreams Album. I love Moonlight, but it could easily have stayed Lady from the Mountain and kept the delicious verse "that woman could make you...crazzy!" and take that lady out of her chair after months just staring. (sorry Stevie, it's a great line, but), and I think someone mentioned what a great album title that LFTM would make, I agree. It would pay homage to one of Stevie's best compositions ever, and us die-hards would just love it.

I, too, wish she would have kept in that last verse. It certainly fits with the new additions to the song, plus it's awesome. "You could use a dreamer somewhere on your side." :angel:

I'll also say that the ONE qualm I have with Moonlight as a song is the suspension right before the chorus. That in combination with the shift in the music that kicks in, it just seems very disconnected.. I think a more gradual/natural build to the chorus would make the song flow better, overall. However, it doesn't really matter that much, because the song is still awesome and I like very much what she did with it - it definitely needed a chorus.

Also, I kinda wish she'd kept the title Lady From The Mountains :lol: Although, I realize that's just being really nitpicky.

The idea of that title as an album title is also really cool, and something I hadn't thought of. Especially since the Lady From The Mountains is Stevie herself... :nod:

And, to stay somewhat on the topic of this thread, I just started college like 2 weeks ago and I just had my first weekend back home.. it's going to be hard to go back. I've been listening to Stevie nonstop (although that isn't entirely unusual for me). It helps.

markolas 08-28-2011 08:50 PM

LFTM, like many of Stevie's unreleased demos/outtakes, has some nice parts but ultimately doesn't go anywhere, IMO. Moonlight is just about the most perfect thing that she could've done with it.

PenguinHead 08-28-2011 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by GoldDustWoman22 (Post 1011541)
But the beginning of the song just hit me. Hard. I just moved to a new college so the whole she's lost, disconnected and finds no comfort in her her surroundings and moving from situation to situation like a ghost i is my life right now and to on the mark to what I'm feeling to be true!!.

That particular verse jumped out to me too, and speaks of my current situation and how I feel about it, though I intially heard a line wrong:

She runs with the ones she can't keep up with

She runs from ones she she can't keep up with

Either way, I relate to it because I hang with friends who are successful and wealthy, and I feel I fall so short of their means...people I can't keep up with lifestyle wise....people I feel I don't belong with...ones I sometimes want to run from, just to protect what's left of my self-esteem.

Jondalar 08-28-2011 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 1011677)
LFTM, like many of Stevie's unreleased demos/outtakes, has some nice parts but ultimately doesn't go anywhere, IMO. Moonlight is just about the most perfect thing that she could've done with it.

I sorta of agree with you that a lot of her demos go nowhere, for instance, Smile at You, rambled on until Say You Will.

However, I find LFTM to be an art piece. The song is sooo introspective and is all about self identity. The harmonies and vocals are excellent. I LOVE IT!

However, I feel Moonlight is a different thing. It's less tangible than LFTM because of the gloss, yet, it's perfect. The lyrics and vocals are perfect for this and it's excellent.

jkmaletic 08-28-2011 10:36 PM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 1011677)
LFTM, like many of Stevie's unreleased demos/outtakes, has some nice parts but ultimately doesn't go anywhere, IMO. Moonlight is just about the most perfect thing that she could've done with it.

Agreed 100%.

The very first time I heard Moonlight was when i was at Sunset Sessions in February with Stevie in the room. I'll never forget it because once the " Strange" part started, i really did love it and gave Stevie a little thumbs up to which she smiled and shook her fists like, "yes!" I'll never forget that. :)

Jamie

darklinensuit 08-29-2011 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Jondalar (Post 1011711)
However, I find LFTM to be an art piece. The song is sooo introspective and is all about self identity. The harmonies and vocals are excellent. I LOVE IT!

However, I feel Moonlight is a different thing. It's less tangible than LFTM because of the gloss, yet, it's perfect. The lyrics and vocals are perfect for this and it's excellent.

LFTM is certainly my favorite Stevie demo - well, at least one of the many RAL versions is - and it's also perhaps my favorite Stevie song, or at least Top 3. Thus there was no way that "Moonlight" was likely to measure up. I love "Moonlight" - along with "New Orleans", it's my favorite on the album - but I enjoy it most when I don't think of it as an updated LFTM. Instead I think of "Moonlight" as an updated version of the song "Trouble in Shangri-la" - an epic with a similar sound (at least in the final several bars) but more readily accessible lyrics and a much better vocal.

- Jake

belladonnadream 08-29-2011 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1011618)
I love this song. It's been my favorite on the album since the first time I heard it. I really think its a Stevie classic, right up there with "Gypsy" and "Landslide". Stevie sings the beginning part of a song in a quality of voice that I didn't know she could even do anymore. When I first heard it, I thought "oh my god this is almost like Stevie pre-Tusk!" I love the chorus. The coda is amazing.

Several reviewers have mentioned that some songs on IYD approach classic Fleetwood Mac levels of greatness, and I agree: "For What It's Worth", "New Orleans", "Moonlight" and "Annabel Lee" would all fit comfortably on Fleetwood Mac or Rumours.

I agree~ I love N.O, Moonlight and Annabel Lee,,they found a special spot in my heart the first time I heard them~

belladonnadream 08-29-2011 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jkmaletic (Post 1011713)
Agreed 100%.

The very first time I heard Moonlight was when i was at Sunset Sessions in February with Stevie in the room. I'll never forget it because once the " Strange" part started, i really did love it and gave Stevie a little thumbs up to which she smiled and shook her fists like, "yes!" I'll never forget that. :)

Jamie

How stinkin cute!:):)

jellyman10 08-30-2011 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by markolas (Post 1011677)
LFTM, like many of Stevie's unreleased demos/outtakes, has some nice parts but ultimately doesn't go anywhere, IMO. Moonlight is just about the most perfect thing that she could've done with it.

This. :thumbsup:

UndoingTheLaces 08-30-2011 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1011618)
Several reviewers have mentioned that some songs on IYD approach classic Fleetwood Mac levels of greatness, and I agree: "For What It's Worth", "New Orleans", "Moonlight" and "Annabel Lee" would all fit comfortably on Fleetwood Mac or Rumours.

Strangely enough I could hear Christine sing "In Your Dreams". The music sounded a lot like a song Christine would write, but the lyrics are classic Stevie. I've always been bummed that they never did something using both of their voices, like Kate and Cindy from The B-52's. The closest to that was the outtake of You Make Loving Fun where Stevie sings all the way through the chorus. But I would have loved to hear some interplay between the two of them.

tabruns 08-30-2011 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces (Post 1012239)
Strangely enough I could hear Christine sing "In Your Dreams". The music sounded a lot like a song Christine would write, but the lyrics are classic Stevie. I've always been bummed that they never did something using both of their voices, like Kate and Cindy from The B-52's. The closest to that was the outtake of You Make Loving Fun where Stevie sings all the way through the chorus. But I would have loved to hear some interplay between the two of them.

Well you can hear this on "Straight Back", beginning with "fingers find the ivory keys..." line.

UndoingTheLaces 08-30-2011 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tabruns (Post 1012255)
Well you can hear this on "Straight Back", beginning with "fingers find the ivory keys..." line.

I always forget about this song. Yeah, they do have nice harmony on that.

michelej1 09-01-2011 02:35 AM

I was reading an article about how Warner Bros. is using the popularity of the film Transformers to repurpose songs from artists who are already on their roster.

So, WB performers like My Chemical Romance, Goo Goo Dolls and Linkin Park are on the Transformers: Dark of the Moon album.

I think this record company gives SN fans reason to hope about Moonlight and Twilight. That would be phenomenal exposure for Stevie.

Michee

WildHearted 09-01-2011 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 1012863)
I was reading an article about how Warner Bros. is using the popularity of the film Transformers to repurpose songs from artists who are already on their roster.

So, WB performers like My Chemical Romance, Goo Goo Dolls and Linkin Park are on the Transformers: Dark of the Moon album.

I think this record company gives SN fans reason to hope about Moonlight and Twilight. That would be phenomenal exposure for Stevie.

Michee

Is Transformers a WB film, though? Because I don't think The Twilight series is.

michelej1 09-01-2011 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1012916)
Is Transformers a WB film, though? Because I don't think The Twilight series is.

I know the movie is Summit Entertainment, but I'm not sure if WB does the music or not. In the article I was reading, Livia Tortella, co-president of WB Records, was talking about it and she had worked on the soundtracks for Twilight, but I'm not sure, maybe Warner isn't putting out the music for the last two movies.

If they are though . . .

Michele

WildHearted 09-09-2011 01:13 AM

In the interest of not starting a new thread... I figured I would post this here. Just ranting / musing on the song, I guess.

Lately I've been enamored by the "He slows down" coda type thing on Moonlight, and especially interested in the 'She couldn't do it..' that follows. She couldn't walk away.. or she couldn't slow down? He slows down, but she couldn't..


I've been tying this song back to The Highwayman since I heard it because I think it's got a pretty similar theme, and again, the 'He slows down' harkens back to 'Considers slowing down, but then he could never win..'

And then today it reminded me of Long Distance Winner.

In Long Distance Winner, she is running after him and calling his name but he's simply too fast for her, no matter what he does. Then, in The Highwayman, although he's still ahead of her, she's learning how to keep up, and he sees her coming up behind him and thinks about slowing down but doesn't want to sacrifice the win.. And lastly, in Moonlight, she's still running, wearing herself out to stay in the game - and he finally slows down.. but she couldn't do it, she couldn't slow down.

Just thought there was a neat little connection. There's probably other songs that just haven't occured to me.

Phoenix 09-09-2011 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1015605)
In the interest of not starting a new thread... I figured I would post this here. Just ranting / musing on the song, I guess.

Lately I've been enamored by the "He slows down" coda type thing on Moonlight, and especially interested in the 'She couldn't do it..' that follows. She couldn't walk away.. or she couldn't slow down? He slows down, but she couldn't..


I've been tying this song back to The Highwayman since I heard it because I think it's got a pretty similar theme, and again, the 'He slows down' harkens back to 'Considers slowing down, but then he could never win..'

And then today it reminded me of Long Distance Winner.

In Long Distance Winner, she is running after him and calling his name but he's simply too fast for her, no matter what he does. Then, in The Highwayman, although he's still ahead of her, she's learning how to keep up, and he sees her coming up behind him and thinks about slowing down but doesn't want to sacrifice the win.. And lastly, in Moonlight, she's still running, wearing herself out to stay in the game - and he finally slows down.. but she couldn't do it, she couldn't slow down.

Just thought there was a neat little connection. There's probably other songs that just haven't occured to me.

Ok, THAT Just blew my mind.:thumbsup:

CADreaming 09-09-2011 07:07 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1015605)
In the interest of not starting a new thread... I figured I would post this here. Just ranting / musing on the song, I guess.

Lately I've been enamored by the "He slows down" coda type thing on Moonlight, and especially interested in the 'She couldn't do it..' that follows. She couldn't walk away.. or she couldn't slow down? He slows down, but she couldn't..


I've been tying this song back to The Highwayman since I heard it because I think it's got a pretty similar theme, and again, the 'He slows down' harkens back to 'Considers slowing down, but then he could never win..'

And then today it reminded me of Long Distance Winner.

In Long Distance Winner, she is running after him and calling his name but he's simply too fast for her, no matter what he does. Then, in The Highwayman, although he's still ahead of her, she's learning how to keep up, and he sees her coming up behind him and thinks about slowing down but doesn't want to sacrifice the win.. And lastly, in Moonlight, she's still running, wearing herself out to stay in the game - and he finally slows down.. but she couldn't do it, she couldn't slow down.

Just thought there was a neat little connection. There's probably other songs that just haven't occured to me.

LB - Show You How: "She says, "Slow down, baby. Slow down, now. Come 'round and get me".... just sayin'... :)

In Moonlight the part about "she couldn't do it" follows "she knows too much to walk away".

I think your connections are right though.

WildHearted 09-09-2011 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 1015631)
LB - Show You How: "She says, "Slow down, baby. Slow down, now. Come 'round and get me".... just sayin'... :)

In Moonlight the part about "she couldn't do it" follows "she knows too much to walk away".

I think your connections are right though.

There's a part at the end of moonlight where it goes:

He slows down
He slows down
He slows down
She couldnt do it

Which is what I wassaying could be interpret two ways. You could say it was just echoing the " she knows too much to walk away / she couldn't do it anyway," or you could see it as an answer to the man slowing down..... And and she couldn't do it.


I think it becomes really interesting when you contemplate it as the latter.

Interesting that when she sings it live, she does in fact say, "he slows down, baby".... Then again Stevie is very unreservedly in her use of baby's and wells etc. :lol:

UndoingTheLaces 09-09-2011 11:03 AM

I think the thing about running and slowing down was more inspired by the movie. If you haven't seen it, the vampires move at incredible speeds. And Bella is hanging out with the family and they have to protect her from the other vampires. So it's both literal and figurative. She wants to become a vampire so she can keep up with him, in speed and in life, and he's trying to slow down to match her speed, and to keep her young mind from rushing into a decision that could affect her for all eternity.

Plus, vampires are immortal so the average life span of a human to them must seem like a few weeks to us, they would have to view time in a different way.

And of course it works as a metaphor for the wild rock and roll lifestyle that Stevie's lived through and two people who want to be together but can't.

It works on many levels.

WildHearted 09-09-2011 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by UndoingTheLaces (Post 1015685)
I think the thing about running and slowing down was more inspired by the movie. If you haven't seen it, the vampires move at incredible speeds. And Bella is hanging out with the family and they have to protect her from the other vampires. So it's both literal and figurative. She wants to become a vampire so she can keep up with him, in speed and in life, and he's trying to slow down to match her speed, and to keep her young mind from rushing into a decision that could affect her for all eternity.

Plus, vampires are immortal so the average life span of a human to them must seem like a few weeks to us, they would have to view time in a different way.

And of course it works as a metaphor for the wild rock and roll lifestyle that Stevie's lived through and two people who want to be together but can't.

It works on many levels.

I've seen the movies and read the books (sadly).

But Stevie even said, "'She runs with the one she can't keep up with.' Bella runs with the vampires. I run with the rock stars."

I hold firm to my believe that deep down in every Stevie Nicks song, the real subject is Stevie herself, regardless of what it was that she related to that inspired her to write it :thumbsup:.

michelej1 09-10-2011 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1015640)
There's a part at the end of moonlight where it goes:

He slows down
He slows down
He slows down
She couldnt do it

If you look at it that way, it's a nice Cat in the Cradle moment.

Michele

BombaySapphire3 09-10-2011 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by WildHearted (Post 1015709)

I hold firm to my believe that deep down in every Stevie Nicks song, the real subject is Stevie herself, regardless of what it was that she related to that inspired her to write it :thumbsup:.

Ding! Ding! and we have a winner!:blob1:

wheart 09-10-2011 07:48 AM

Moonlight has firmly secured itself onto my list of absolute Stevie favorites. The song is brilliant and she had touched on it's creation many times in recent interviews but in the Jim Ladd interview, the mother of them all, she really goes into exact detail regarding how that song came to be. I found the whole creative process around that song utterly fascinating, especially the way she wove the Twilight story, her and Lindsey and probably countless other loves and experiences together. The creation of Moonlight was truly the beginning of IYD.

mitzo 09-10-2011 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by wheart (Post 1015926)
Moonlight has firmly secured itself onto my list of absolute Stevie favorites. The song is brilliant and she had touched on it's creation many times in recent interviews but in the Jim Ladd interview, the mother of them all, she really goes into exact detail regarding how that song came to be. I found the whole creative process around that song utterly fascinating, especially the way she wove the Twilight story, her and Lindsey and probably countless other loves and experiences together. The creation of Moonlight was truly the beginning of IYD.

Good, now if only she could have written the rest of the album instead of Dave.

Bm7th 11-02-2011 05:13 AM

I love this song, this is at the moment mytop 5 all time favorite song by Stevie. From the very beginning when she starts singing you could hear her gasping, which is different, I don't recall hearing this before on any of her other songs, I wonder if she intended on doing that.

Also can anyone guess what other similarity this song has with Stevie??
Hint- It has nothing to do with the lyrics of the song or another song by Stevie.

Bm7th 11-07-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bm7th (Post 1026073)
I love this song, this is at the moment mytop 5 all time favorite song by Stevie. From the very beginning when she starts singing you could hear her gasping, which is different, I don't recall hearing this before on any of her other songs, I wonder if she intended on doing that.

Also can anyone guess what other similarity this song has with Stevie??
Hint- It has nothing to do with the lyrics of the song or another song by Stevie.

I see ya'll are anxiously waiting on the answer. The similarity is the time of the song 5:26( on my CD & CD player) 5/26 = her birthday.

Phoenix 11-07-2011 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Bm7th (Post 1026711)
I see ya'll are anxiously waiting on the answer. The similarity is the time of the song 5:26( on my CD & CD player) 5/26 = her birthday.

THATS AWESOME! ITS LIKE TOTALLY COSMIC. :thumbsup:

Bm7th 11-07-2011 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Phoenix (Post 1026721)
THATS AWESOME! ITS LIKE TOTALLY COSMIC. :thumbsup:

Ooooh it's so strange ;)


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