Is For What It's Worth a single?
 

Sorry if this was already posted, I just noticed this link on Janis Joplin's fb page that says FWIW is the new single, doesn't look very official though:

http://ultimateclassicrock.com/stevi...ith-tom-petty/

Indeed, it is.

I love the 21st century!

Hahaha! This made me laugh too!

Has any artwork been released yet?

Unfortunately this song will go down in history as a virtually unplayed second single - just like "Two Kinds of Love", "Blue Denim" and "Skies the Limit. So sad.

Thats why I loved experiencing TISL in its day - not only were 3 singles released, all charted in some way or another in Billboard. Too bad it wont happen this time.

Hate to be negative but the whole IYD experience (once the tour is complete) will be over far too soon.

I hate to say it, but it's looking that way. The singel is not even showing up on any airplay charts at all. Hasn't it been out for like three weeks now? And IYD is about to fall off the Billboard top 200, as well. :(

Hopefully they will release Annabel Lee as a last ditch effort to save the album. Oh yeah, and also PROMOTE IT too.

This is what happens when you wait almost 10 years (i.e., SYW) to release any new music even when it's a great CD.:distress:

It was a bad, bad, bad choice of single.

I agree, how boring! 'Moonlight' would of been my pick. The record company is nuts! :wavey:

I don't believe FWIW was necessarily a bad choice. It's a great song and potentially could have had legs off the back of "Landslide's" popularity. But as Bandon pointed out, it does appear Reprise, and Stevie for that matter, are not promoting it. A collage video could have simply been compiled from the documentary footage ala "Cheaper Than Free" style, to have some presence on the world wide web. TV appearance's could have been booked to perform the FWIW, a song in which she could successfully deliver live easily on national TV compared to "Secret Love". But alas, It feels as if any single Reprise released from IYD at this point would be a hard sell. Her best chance was with the 1st single, and they chose to go with the dusted off, never recorded, old song nostalgia route, complete with a teaser story that Stevie could coyly discourse about whom it could possibly be written about to the press;).

Fans need to accept the fact that Stevie's hit single days are long behind her. I'm not saying she could never have a fluke hit song, but the odds are stacked against her, esp. if her record company is not strongly pushing the song to radio. And I bet they are not willing to spend the money on that gamble at this stage in Stevie's career, when they have younger, more bankable rising stars to spend that scarce marketing $$ behind. In Your Dreams, Moonlight & Annabel Lee all would have been sure fire hits back in Stevie's heyday, but sadly radio & even VH1 now turn their nose at new material from Stevie, choosing instead to almost exclusively only play her classic catalog. I would happily eat my words, if Stevie landed a new hit song...but I've stopped worrying & hoping for it, since around 2003.

At this moment I dont hear any airplay of this cd.at this time just play something from the dam cd.

what IS a single? for me, it actually has to be released and packaged as such (if even on iTunes)--not just sent to dj's for radio play. Otherwise, what makes it a single?

So if FWIW is about "the best summer of her life" touring with Tom Petty- then who is the "forbidden" and "outrageous" man in the song that she wants to leave his girlfriend and pack up his stuff?

This song is getting 0 airplay.

Fallen like a stone. *Thud* :(

I have yet to hear "Secret Love" get played. :shrug: At this point I don't think she'll break through with anything other than a rocker. I guess they'll opt for "Ghosts Are Gone", but I still think an edited version of "Wide Sargasso Sea" would be wiser. Besides, given her new addiction to pantomiming song lyrics on the concert stage, I look forward to her inspired interpretation of "burned-his-house-down" during the live performance of the song. (Strikes invisible match on platform boot, tosses it at invisible silken drapes in invisible cream-colored ivory and soft-yellow house, covers entire head with shawl, stops drops & rolls with Sharon.)

And as far as I'm concerned, FWIW is no "Landslide". It's half a great song (only the verses).

- Jake

so far have not heard a single played on the radio from the new album at all here and I listen to the radio all the time and asked and requested pretty much all the stations that would play her new music I got one email back from a dj saying oh I love her that was my response back. No Radio play at all in CT probably why she is not stopping here. They just play her classic stuff only now when Trouble In Shangri-La came out they did play her new songs from that album Planets of Universe and Sorcerer was played alot I remember.

I think both Moonlight & scaled down WSS should of been the 1st & 2nd singles released. No wonder Stevie's struggling with album sales when she has morons like Warner Bros sabotaging another great Album & calling the shots:distress: IMO they made the same mistake with TISL releasing Everyday as the first single:eek::eek: that song was another poor choice, in fact & unfortunately for me, i didn't bother buying that album till many years later. I feel that FWIW doe not strike me as a great choice, as much as i love this song, it could be seen an other bland song for radio & not played.. on the other hand Moonlight & WSS have a great rockin kick arse vibe that would be suitable for radio & hopefully increase album sales = more albums from Stevie in the future:D
Sadly I still haven't heard Secret Love on the radio here in OZ either..

:laugh: Coffee up nose! Ha ha ha!!

ya...see your point..FWIW is a "nice" song...like a "deep cut" maybe...but definately NOT single/radio airplay material...funny you mention "sabotage"..thats exactly what i said when it was announced that FWIW was going to be the next single...i felt it would do nothing for promotion/sales...poor choice from a PR perspective..again...especially for someone who hasnt released new material in 10 years..."secret love" and FWIW are the chosen "comeback songs???" all the TV apperances and not 1 IYD's promo showed...they verbally mentioned "the new album"...but VISUALLY that promo add is very appealing...sparked my interest big time..i dont think i would consider the album a "flop" from a quality standpoint because i love the music...i thinks its a great piece of work..but lets face it...financially....all the time and effort from a lot of people...when all is said and done....they may be able to go mcdonalds a few times w/the profit made form this

Yes radio sucks here in CT ,When it comes to playing Stevie's new tracks .as you know.Yes I did remember hearing a little bit of TISL on the radio.Anyway I was glad they played the crap out of FM's SYW cd back when it was released.Like Peacekeeper and Say You Will.Radio these days wants to stick with the young talent and currents..they dont give a bloody damn about old established artists.they treat them as has- beens or one hit wonders.Sorry about the finger pointing now.I blame WB for lack of not pushing to promote her work to radio stations.I would think she probably do better with a different record label.I dont know the details about whats left on her contract.She is selling cd's probably due to great reviews from the critics and word of mouth.I do know it not from radio airplay.

"For What It's Worth" is finally going for radio adds the week of July 20th on AC, Triple A and Rock radio. Looks like Reprise is starting to push a little. Let's hope for the best.

http://gfa.radioandrecords.com/publi.../2011&Format=3

It's about freakin' time.

The only artist I can think of at the moment that radio is playing every single they release is Katy Perry! Holy Crap! Her latest album just released a 5th single titled 'Last Friday Night' She's having more success than Gaga! :shrug:

i agree. Definitely not a strong choice for the second single. Annabell Lee is a standout, as is the title track. perhaps even moonlight. I still think Secret Love would have done better if vh1 had played the video. Perhaps country music tv will pick up on For what its worth. it does have a folk aspect to it and they did play the eagles and are now playing the dobbie borthers.

OK, this is where the confusion sets in for me because in the In Your Dreams, Part 2 (found here, at 1:11 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62f71B83Z10) she's sitting down to put the vocals on this song and says, "it was the only time I ever went on a bus, with my friend the drummer, right after rehab and I was really fragile..."

So it had to have been written around the Street Angel tour (and I'm also convinced this guy and the guy in Love Is are the same person).

*sigh* I don't get it. :laugh:

I don't think she's actually ever said the thing about Tom Petty. Where that quote started to show up is after the Wiltern show and the Billboard reviewer wrote that she said that.

http://www.billboard.com/events/stev...05206432.story

""For What It's Worth" was written about her summer riding the bus across the U.S. with Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers. (Heartbreaker guitarist Mike Campbell joined the band for the tune). Nicks called it "the best summer of my life-and you can interpret that any way you like.""

But she actually doesn't say that when she's talking during the show. She talks about becoming an Honorary Heartbreaker, bringing out a real Heartbreaker who helped her write it, and the song being about traveling across the country on tour in a bus and having the best summer of her life as a separate thought. The only time she's done that is on the Street Angel tour.


This new article, much like other journalistic endeavors that don't get an actual interview with Stevie, just regurgitate what they read in other articles (like Billboard).

Fwiw
 

It has a better chance of staying in the live set now. I hope In Your Dreams is released next.

The way Billboard layed out their sentence is wrong... She did say it was written about the 94 period... Billboard ran both that, and the fact that Mike Campbell From TP was there to perform it into one giant sentence... If they would have put a period after U.S.. Then it would have taken on a new meaning...

i don't care...
 

what they select as a single. just put out a timely, corresponding video!!!! so much of her careeer has been visual! why abandon it now?? she needs to go to interscope... like they talked about in Destiny Rules. get new blood to push her/them in a NEW way!

In Your Dreams surely HAS to be a single!! It's the most commercial, radio friendly song she's done in years!

I agree. It's definitely got a better chance than anything else on the album of being a hit.

'In Your Dreams' has such a breezy, hooky chorus. You hear it once, and it's in your head all day.

I agree that In Your Dreams is probably the most commercial song on the album.

Realistically though, no matter what song they pick, Stevie is not going to have a Top 10 hit here, simply because she's over 50. :shrug:

I agree, unless she teams up with Chris Brown or Jay-Z and goes down the r&b route she'll never have a top 40 hit either.

Exactly. But I think the reviewer legitimately walked away thinking that was reason she wrote it. And because Billboard is a more reliable music source, it's going to get repeated in those other articles that just regurgitate what's already been written because they don't get an interview with her.

With proper promotion tying it to Twilight or somehow creating its own Twilight iconography (i.e. a music video NOT directed by Dave Stewart), I do believe that "Moonlight" could have made some impact as a single. But obvs. there was backing from WB on something like that--probably because Twilight is not WB, right?

Here's the problem with many of the songs on the album that immediately make them non-contenders for singles: They're too long. You go too far past the 4 minute mark and radio programmers balk especially in large monitored markets. There's only 5 songs that are under 5 minutes. And you're talking about having to cut well over a minute worth of material to make a radio edit. That's not going to happen.

So you have 5 options: Secret Love, For What It's Worth, In Your Dreams, Italian Summer, Cheaper Than Free. The last two are out. Neither would be strong enough to get radio play. I think the remaining three will be the singles from this album (assuming they get to the third).

The length of many songs are too long for FM radio stations to consider playing them for alternative (other than a released single) airplay, which is limiting. However, they can cut any of the tracks down for singles. It happens all of the time and has for years. The flip side is when you hear an extended version of a song that was originally a 3 to 4 minute single. :nod:

Surely the purpose of releasing singles for veteran artists like Stevie now is primarily to pique interest in the album they're culled from, not to actually bother the 'pop charts'? There might be the occasional flukey hit, but otherwise the 'single' is little more than a way to ensure that radio plays a particular album track a lot. And yes, radio edits are a good idea, given how de-skilled DJ'ing has become.

Loz

Yes, I realize that. Very few of the singles I've worked have gone to radio straight off the album. But those radio edits are usually 30 or 40 seconds off and mostly instrumental stuff or an early fade out. You're talking about doubling that. That extra 30 or 40 seconds is a verse. Which one do you think Stevie's going to let them cut?