Lindsey's thoughts on BN on cd...
 

From 2007......

Gazette: OK. So the last thing I want to ask ... I have to strike a blow for the collectors here because so many ...
Buckingham: (Laughs) It's the Buckingham Nicks collection, isn't it?
Gazette: You got it. Everybody's always asking. Are there any plans to issue this thing on CD?
Buckingham: You know, my answer is always yes. And I believe that that's a truthful answer. It's the best answer I can give, but it's also a situation which is symptomatic of one of the things that can be wrong with Fleetwood Mac, or certainly with Stevie's and my situation. We can't always get things on the same page or get organized. There's a certain inertia to that and there's kind of a sense of well, when is it going to make sense to do it? Or is it ever going to make sense to do it? So I don't know. I have to say yes, but I don't know. Call up Stevie's people and ask 'em. (Laughs).

Full article: http://www2.canada.com/montrealgazet...3-2efbd2879f45

I wish they will stop bickering and release the dam thing before its to late.

It reeks of apathy, and it's insult to the long-time devoted fans who have given them a very cushy life. To prep the album would take minor effort/cost, and it would mean so much to their fans. In the vast amount of time between albums, you think they would have re-released it. But they are being very snotty about it.

Perhaps social media can push them into releasing it: a twitter campaign, a facebook page, etc. We can shame them into it.

Why does anyone care about him re-releasing BN? Nothing Linds does for an official re-release will greatly improve the quality of the DLedin Galemark 16 bit vinyl rip remasters. He knows it. He's waiting for a reason to make it official with some kind of event. Probably a tour for the two of them. Guess the timing isn't right for that, yet. :shrug:

Well I wish they'd get a wiggle on - no one's getting any younger!

Honestly, these two...

I would love to sit them down in a room together to talk this ish out- I'll mediate- and everyone will be happy with the outcome. I mean, they're both on the same page, it can't be that difficult.

Or can it???

Maybe Stevie wants to sequence the CD differently.

Seriously though, the whole Buckingham Nicks CD Release thing has just turned into a giant "It's not me, it's him/her!" flip flop thing between the two of them, they need to get a grip :laugh:

Huh? What are thoses? And how does it relate to an official re-release of the album? Why would this factor into Lindsey's decision? It sounds like Stevie is the one who is holding it up.

I'm not sure how that relates to the official release of the album, but that poster was referencing one of the finest vinyl rips/clean-ups I have ever heard for any release... ever. It's as clean as any commercial CD I have heard, but with all the dynamics of recorded sound in-tact... it really is something I recommend everyone take a listen to. I know it seems hard to believe, but I don't know if the eventual (hopefully!) commercial release will sound as good when it finally does happen. With DLedin's permission, I shared lossless versions awhile back here on The Ledge. But if you would like to take a listen, I still have mp3s of it uploaded to my mediafire account. You can download/listen here:
http://www.mediafire.com/?9khzunz3hn8cj

Thanks for B&N downloads... much appreciated:thumbsup:

Hear hear! I completely agree.

I agree. If it's 'just' a great-sounding digital copy of the BN album you want, then this meets that, imo.

The only point of an official CD release of that material is if it's not just that material. They could make a decent package of bonus tracks, alt versions, demos and rareties, with good liner notes and pics etc. That would be worth it, but otherwise, I have no idea why people clamour for a CD. Those particular vinyl rips are excellent.

As to why it doesn't happen? I have a hunch that Stevie is the block for two reasons.

One is the cover. I think she doesn't want to field questions about posing topless, or backhanded compliments about how great she looked (past tense), and have her judgement as a young woman in the '70s music business questioned from the perspective of the present day. Sure, they could change the cover, but then people would probably talk about the original one even more!

The other reason is that, with the exception of the always-tenuous FM, the BN album is the great Unfinished Business between her and LB. And if they deal with that, then they really are 'done'. And I don't think Stevie will ever want to be truly done with LB!:lol::lol:

Loz

I completely disagree about the cover being the block. In the first place, I suspect Stevie thinks/knows she looks great; she does not seem to have doubts about her looks whenever people compliment her (i.e., she readily agrees and gives her beauty tips). Second, and more important, if anything the cover gives her one more opportunity to bash Lindsey for bullying her. You really think she'll pass that up? :shocked: (I'm surprised she has not yet thought of a way to blame him for the breast implants leaking.;) )

I do agree that any reissue is pointless, even with a tour, if they don't throw in other songs. I want "Without You", "Farewell Failure", "Sorcerer", etc. on a second CD in the same set. What I do NOT want (but fear) is the sort of stuff we got with some of the FM reissues. I do not want a reissued BN with a couple of scaled down/unfinished/alternate versions of songs we already know and like better in current form.

- Jake

Sorry I'm not buying that. There are plenty of other Buckingham Nicks pictures that could be used as an alternate cover if they could be bothered actually putting it out.

I don't think it's a question of buying it. I only suggested that it might be a factor, and I did so because I think SN is very up and down about the ageing process, as most women are. And as I said, surely choosing a new cover still draws attention to the old one. :shrug:

I just think they BOTH don't want to go back there while they are Both still releasing new music. It would kind of be a distraction and possibly interfere with sales of the current CDs. They might do it when they "retire" and need some dough for a world cruise.;)

I think they're waiting until they're done with everything else, if that makes sense, so that can be their last hoorah, so to speak. Coming full circle and ending things how they began. We all know how Lindsey loves his cycles.

Could just be wishful thinking though.

Stevie recently said that Keith Olsen is also a "co-owner" and so they have to reach some sort of agreement with him to re-release it. She says it will happen.

Has anyone gotten Stevie to autograph the cover of BN? My friend and I caught up with her at the Oprah taping and she wouldn't do it.

:shrug:

She wouldn't? Did she say anything about it?

Sorry. I didn't mean that to sound as if I was having a go at you. I actually agree with you and think that Stevie may well give that as an actual reason and if she does then I wouldn't accept it as a reason from her.

The moment they officially remaster and re-release Buckingham Nicks on CD is the moment the cult of this record diminishes or dies. Do they really want BN to lose its novelty and mystique?? Most everyone who loves or cares about this record has a digital rip of it from some source (the links jeffd8382 provided in this thread are superior and highly recommended - thanks Jeff!) So yeah, they would have to put out a special package (with extras) of some sort if it were to be released, and that would take some effort and agreement from all camps involved. A label & distribution deal would have to be secured, which obviously is more challenging these days. IDK, it feels to me that the opportunity has sorta passed. I'll be happy, but shocked if the day actually comes. With CD sales in steep decline, remasters are becoming even more of a rarity and more like a liability for labels unless there is great demand & great possibility for a decent profit:cool:

Sadly, it's going to take one of them leaving this plane of existence before that'll be officially released.

I can't recall off the top of my head now the reason(s) why they said BN didn't sell back in the day, what was the reason? The record label? It seemed to me that the record and them were only popular in certain pockets of the country like Alabama of all places in the deep south.

I agree with you though on the mystique dieing if they release BN. I wonder though if part of their feelings are; "Well...... (gotta get a Stevie well in there) if it didn't sell back in the day why would we want to release it now?" Meaning if it wasn't good enough then to be appreciated and sell why now when their fame would be the main factor for it selling and back to what you said about the mystique.

If you read between their lines they both are skating around the answers to questions about it. And, sadly, it may very well mean both of them passing over before it comes out.....unless it's tied up in wills....but you know someone is invariably going to get greedy and want money from releasing it.

My thoughts exactly. We have the songs. Do people actually think it's going to be a gold selling album and Lindsey and Stevie will emerge as the hottest new duo on the scene? I mean come on people, they've given enough with FM and solo careers. Listen to your BN CD/digital rips and get over it. The only thing that would be great would be a BN tour but hello, we have that just with Mick and John. Throw some BN cuts in there to satisfy your needs and there you have it.

OK I do love these two but they are beginning to frustrate me in terms of this record. Everytime I see an interview with them about this they always blame it not coming out on the other one ;)! I have heard all of the Buckingham Nicks songs thanks to some people on this board ;) and youtube and am kind of in love with them:nod:! Now if they did what you said (adding extra songs and what not) there's a chance that many people would buy it. Especially those that really have only heard of the record but not actually have heard it, if that makes sense. or people who only listened to the album back when it was first released might see it, and pick it up for nostalgia reasons. And I'm more than sure that if they sell it people are going to see their two names and faces on the cover, know who they are and want to check out the album. Which would help boost sales. I don't know :shrug:. I guess I'm just trying to remain positive because I really, really, really want this album to come out.

Ok, my question is, why bother with paying for it when there are EXCELLENT versions out in Webweb land to download for free...INCLUDING the unused demos, live tracks, etc?

YOU HAVE the Buckingham Nicks album available to you already, why would you WISH to give up your hard earned cash for it? If you "need" to hold it in your hands, burn it to disc...use somebody's "light scribe" to etch artwork onto the disc itself...use a jewel case labelling software to recreate the album artwork. It's a "DIY" world now.

The reason Lindsey & Stevie DON'T release it is that for all intents, it HAS been released...those who want/wanted it, HAVE IT. They don't have to invest (read: risk) their own money 1) to recreate the artwork for a CD package, 2)compile/remix/remaster the songs, 3) find a label to distribute it....THEN have to track its sales. They'd be losing money in the long run. It's more financially sound to NOT release it.

And, from what I've read, the original multi-track master tapes of the album are in seriously bad shape...from what Keith Olsen has said, they'd only survive one or two runs (IF that) through the tape machine and they'd be destroyed.

The real reason: the cover.
Stevie probably wants her frilly blouse airbrushed on. Lindsey's probably yammering about art (although he wouldn't mind airbrushing the slight man boobs).

I have the album cover as part of my living room decor. People think (rightly so) that I'm a bit... touched.

I have a BN album autographed by both Lindsey and Stevie...

Bless
:laugh::laugh:

Stevie even said on Ellen that it's hard to sell a CD these days. It's been out there in bootleg format, so it's not like people couldn't have an official looking CD in that format. And if they make it as an iTunes/Amazon download only project it won't be any different from what we already have. It's seriously a project that just won't make a profit these days. Imagine someone asking you to go to work on your day off and spend your time re-writing an old document that would require hours of work and effort all to have very little payout in the end. Would you be thrilled to do it? I mean, sure I'd buy it just to have it but it would sit on my shelf practically untouched (right next to my LP of it) because the music is already on my iPod.

I'm more than a little put off by the thought of them not putting it out only because it won't sell millions of copies. The profit should be making their fans happy.

As do I! Well, dining room, actually. :laugh: Dinner guests can look at Lindsey's man-b0obs.

in my dreams
 

I see your point, Chili. Maybe they missed the boat on this. A few years ago they could have really had a great package to put together with pictures and demos and other extras. That's what I'm looking for - I don't need them to just re-release BN. I'm expecting them to give us a little more goodies from that era. Lost concert footage or home movies, maybe... something. Now that downloading is taking over, I don't know you can do those kind of packages for any other reasons other than nostalgia/cross-promotion. Neil Young and Tom Petty come to mind. They've done similar things. Does it work? I don't know. I guess TPTB could come up with some catch for a "farewell" Mac tour: "Fleetwood Mac featuring Buckingham Nicks" and they could throw a few BN tunes in the set? Eh... :shrug: I would take that if I couldn't have a BN "tour" or something like Soundstage where they performed the entire album live.

Beautiful! :thumbsup:

After reading this post and seeing that photo I will now eat my words. Simply re-releasing BN alone might not be such a hot ticket but given that there are enough fans of both Stevie and Lindsey and the fact that there had been enough interest to keep BN on the bootleg circuit for a while, doing a Soundstage episode of Buckingham Nicks would be kind of brilliant. Waddy is still involved so that would add to the flavor of it hearkening back to the original BN. They could do the whole album live and then they could package it as a DVD/CD package like Stevie's Soundstage was, only make it a total package with the live DVD, a CD of the performance and the original remastered BN on CD. And maybe a CD only version with the concert, the original album and some bonus tracks. Hell, if they wanted to get really creative with marketing they could have the downloadable version have the bonus tracks or a link with the package to a page where you could download bonus mp3's that the fans might not have already.

My friend who had one of the rock and roll make-overs, tried to hand Stevie the album and a marker as she walked to the car (this was after we told Stevie she was the reason we had come to Chicago). The sky was overcast and it was a chilly, drab day but it was not raining. Stevie said she couldn't get wet and got in the car and sat there. At the time it seemed like a diva kind of thing to do but maybe she just doesn't like the album cover?!

I like your sig. "Wazamatababy"!!! Too kewl~ :nod:

There would be no point in releasing the CD unless, as others have stated, there was some sort of special package along with it. Demos, live recordings, something. Just putting it out on CD as-is is kind of futile. And even then, I think the suggestion of the Soundstage-esque DVD/CD combo would be the most plausable and appealing option.

If they don't plan on doing something special with it ever, then I don't see why they couldn't just release it on iTunes. At least that way it is easily and officially available to the public (as in, people who may not know of it and/or haven't taken the time to seek a downlaod of it already) AND they can make money from it.

At her official signings fans have been instructed to bring/buy IYD because she will not sign anything else. Maybe she was just trying to stay consistent even though this was not an event.:shrug:

- Jake