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Christopher 06-16-2011 05:39 PM

2nd single - For What It's Worth
 
According to this new "In Your Dreams Tour" Live Nation press release:


STEVIE NICKS 15-City 'In Your Dreams Tour' begins at RED ROCKS August 9th

GRAND PRAIRIE — Stevie Nicks, whose new CD In Your Dreams debuted last month at Number 6 on Billboard's Pop Charts, will be performing on August 12 in Grand Prairie at the Verizon Theatre, as part of a 15-city ‘In Your Dreams Tour’ that begins in Denver on August 9, as announced by Reprise Records.

Tickets for the Verizon Theatre concert go on sale beginning Friday, June 24 at 10am and may be purchased at all Ticketmaster outlets, online at ticketmaster.com or by calling 800-745-3000. Ticket prices are $65, $85, and $125.

“We are pleased to welcome Stevie Nicks back to the Dallas / Fort Worth area,” said Danny Eaton, Live Nation Senior Vice President. “North Texas looks forward to an amazing summer concert with this legendary artist!”

Public on-sale will begin Friday, June 24 at 10 a.m.

Nicks, a multi Grammy Award winner and Rock & Roll Hall of Fame inductee, most recently toured on ‘The Heart + Soul Tour’ with Rod Stewart. In Your Dreams has received glowing reviews including US Magazine who declared it "the best album of Nicks' four-decade career." Nicks has enjoyed extraordinary success as a solo artist, live performer, and member of the legendary band, Fleetwood Mac. Her new single "For What It's Worth" has just been released by Reprise Records.
Source: Live Nation


Could this be!? "For What It's Worth" as the 2nd single from IYD. :thumbsup:
This is a left turn I wasn't expecting. But this decision could be gold. Not only can Stevie perform this song pretty consistently (on a potential talk show circuit during the tour) But I can see this song doing pretty well on Triple A (which already plays Landslide to death) and even AC with its familiar and classic SN/FM sound.

darklinensuit 06-16-2011 05:52 PM

I was just thinking yesterday that this would be the next single. (I also think it should have been the opening song on the album.) I think it's in many ways a smart choice. I like the verses a lot, but still really dislike her vocal on the chorus. All the same, the song has a certain integrity to it that should reach an audience. It's serious & respectable, especially for listeners who are fed up with radio today. Nothing about FWIW sounds like an older rocker trying to be catchy or current for the pop charts, and the lyrics are better than the kind of "Every Day" drek she has fed to the A/C charts for years. And hopefully country fans will like it as well.

- Jake

Crystal_Elle 06-16-2011 05:54 PM

YES YES YES!! Now they need to release it to country radio too (and hire me to promote it. will work for food).

Christopher 06-16-2011 06:05 PM

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Originally Posted by darklinensuit (Post 994211)
I was just thinking yesterday that this would be the next single. (I also think it should have been the opening song on the album.) I think it's in many ways a smart choice. I like the verses a lot, but still really dislike her vocal on the chorus. All the same, the song has a certain integrity to it that should reach an audience. It's serious & respectable, especially for listeners who are fed up with radio today. Nothing about FWIW sounds like an older rocker trying to be catchy or current for the pop charts, and the lyrics are better than the kind of "Every Day" drek she has fed to the A/C charts for years. And hopefully country fans will like it as well.

- Jake

It's always so interesting to find what others like or dislike, we are a diverse bag of mixed nuts that's for sure. I ♥love♥ Stevie's harmony on FWIW's chorus :xoxo: I can never get enough of Stevie singing harmony with herself. I wish she would do it more often - that's her sweet spot imo.

BombaySapphire3 06-16-2011 06:16 PM

Wonderful song .As I have posted one of the best thing she has written in the last 25 years ..easily.I just hope if it is the new single it gets played somewhere.:shrug:

darklinensuit 06-16-2011 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Christopher (Post 994217)
It's always so interesting to find what others like or dislike, we are a diverse bag of mixed nuts that's for sure. I ♥love♥ Stevie's harmony on FWIW's chorus :xoxo: I can never get enough of Stevie singing harmony with herself. I wish she would do it more often - that's her sweet spot imo.

I usually like her harmonies, too. Just don't think it's executed well here. I want to like that part. It's not the backing vocal that sounds wrong to me. It's the main vocal on the chorus that sounds flat as a pancake and...deeper than a deep well. God's Garden-esque. Fortunately I like the rest of the song. And I'm guessing many people will take to it just because it sounds like a throwback to purer folk-rock days.

- Jake

KarmaContestant 06-16-2011 06:40 PM

Awesome! Here's to hoping there will be a promo CD single released.

BombaySapphire3 06-16-2011 06:49 PM

So if it is the new single strange that no video was done for it when there are several other songs that do have videos.

jkmaletic 06-16-2011 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 994237)
So if it is the new single strange that no video was done for it when there are several other songs that do have videos.

Agreed. Dumb move on their part. Not that videos get played a lot these days anyway, but still.

I love the song, but I'm not sure I see it as single-worthy to non- fans.

Jamie

darklinensuit 06-16-2011 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 994237)
So if it is the new single strange that no video was done for it when there are several other songs that do have videos.

I thought that, too. But maybe she can still film it, & this one might be free from Dave's jarring camera work. I like the guy, but this song does not need all those special effects that are in the "Secret Love" video & "Moonlight" clips. Really, this song would do fine with her just sitting in contemplation on a train. Should make her happy if she gets to wear a Victorian dress.:shrug:

- Jake

HighPassion 06-16-2011 07:06 PM

I think that's an awesome choice for a second single. Favorite track off the record, and I think it'll spark the interest of the Rumours-lineup-Fleetwood Mac fanbase that aren't as inclined to "new solo projects" - maybe?

For What It's Worth, it's an all around good single choice;) (pun intended)

SandyMac 06-16-2011 07:08 PM

Really glad the second single got released but feel a better song (In Your Dreams, Moonlight, or Ghosts Are Gone would be a better choice), but then again maybe they are looking for that country cross over.
Don't get me wrong, the song is growing on me and have actually caught myself totally into the vibe and feel of the country folk part of it. Yeah, that was my first thought too about the lack of video.
Why on earth is In Your Dreams CD being treated by the label so chaotic and unorganized manner?

But with that said, am TOTALLY HAPPY that the second single got released and now we have tour dates! YAY!!!!!!!!! :)

BombaySapphire3 06-16-2011 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SandyMac (Post 994245)
Really glad the second single got released but feel a better song (In Your Dreams, Moonlight, or Ghosts Are Gone would be a better choice), but then again maybe they are looking for that country cross over.

I don't think any of the alternate choices that you listed are better songs than FWIW ..IYD may have been a better single choice but a better song..no way.Moonlight would need some serious tweaking of the verses to be a single worthy and GAG would not work as a single in this day and age IMO.

WildHearted 06-16-2011 07:39 PM

I honestly believe this was the best choice they could have possibly made regarding the second single. So glad another one has been put out, hopefully this will bode well for Stevie & Co.

llb 06-16-2011 08:15 PM

I like this song too. Reminds me of how Dolly Parton plays the guitar with her fingernails, and it has the sweet delivery too.

nightbird28 06-16-2011 08:23 PM

This is a great song and I hope the country station play FWIW everyone knows the words. It's such a heartfelt song.

tabruns 06-16-2011 08:50 PM

This is a great song and I hope it does as well as it deserves to.

I think other songs have single potential as well: "In Your Dreams", "Moonlight", "New Orleans", "Italian Summer" and "Everybody Loves You".

I notice that some of us were lamenting about there being no tour....and then we started seeing tour dates. A few were saying there's no 2nd single....and now there is. We might consider not making assumptions as often.

DallasDude 06-16-2011 08:51 PM

One of my favorite Stevie tunes of the last 3 CDs. But at this stage, I think she plays better as a pop-country star than a rock star.

tabruns 06-16-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by DallasDude (Post 994277)
One of my favorite Stevie tunes of the last 3 CDs. But at this stage, I think she plays better as a pop-country star than a rock star.

You may have a good point there.

SandyMac 06-16-2011 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 994252)
I don't think any of the alternate choices that you listed are better songs than FWIW ..IYD may have been a better single choice but a better song..no way.Moonlight would need some serious tweaking of the verses to be a single worthy and GAG would not work as a single in this day and age IMO.

Well, case in point, lots of times, the single that does well is not the "best" song on the CD, but the most catchy. And I still think In Your Dreams would have been a better choice, as a single. However, maybe what DallasDude said is starting to be true. Stevie makes a better pop/country star than a rock star (if radio air play is the only criteria), but still ROCKS my socks off as a rock star when she wants to. But I know, and always accepted that Stevie has that bit of country in her that will never go away.

Hey, as long as she is still singing and making magic, that is all I really care about. I mean who would have thought just 3-4 years ago, Stevie sounded like she was going to hang it up regarding putting out new music. And now we have a new CD, new potential DVD/Movie, and a tour to go along with the new album.

The fact that the Bristow, VA show got announced made my DAY! :blob1::blob1::blob1::blob2::blob2::blob2::nod: The venue is only about a 40 min drive from my house! Last time Stevie was in this area (solo) was 2005 for the Gold Dust Tour.

On Ice 06-16-2011 10:32 PM

I feel this song could get Stevie back on the radio. It's easily as radio friendly and good as Lady Antelbellum's big hit last year and could be that big, (presuming it gets out there). Good choice for a single.

sywlindseyfan 06-16-2011 11:40 PM

Ok wait a minute, so we have all the tour dates? why are there only 15!?!?!?!

Macfanforever 06-16-2011 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by sywlindseyfan (Post 994321)
Ok wait a minute, so we have all the tour dates? why are there only 15!?!?!?!

I guess thats all she wanted.

mikephxaz 06-16-2011 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BombaySapphire3 (Post 994220)
Wonderful song .As I have posted one of the best thing she has written in the last 25 years ..easily.I just hope if it is the new single it gets played somewhere.:shrug:



I couldn't agree more...the song is beautiful and is a great song...one of her top ten...im so happy....i doubt that it will find a place on the radio but it is a beautiful song!!

jrpjr 06-17-2011 01:58 AM

absolutly love the song...but there is no video..its not going to get any airplay on adult contemporary stations....nevermind top 100 pop/rock stations...if "secret love" was a dud...based on what happened with the albums fall from 6 to 89 in 2 weeks...why in gods name would you release a "country" single for an artist who been titled "queen of rock?" this is just sabotage to the selling of this album..this will drop it right out of sight...IYD MAY have captured an under 40 audience....this is NUTS...so..for what it's worth...(punn intended)..i DO love the song and i hope i eat these words

Crystal_Elle 06-17-2011 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jrpjr (Post 994329)
absolutly love the song...but there is no video..its not going to get any airplay on adult contemporary stations....nevermind top 100 pop/rock stations...if "secret love" was a dud...based on what happened with the albums fall from 6 to 89 in 2 weeks...why in gods name would you release a "country" single for an artist who been titled "queen of rock?" this is just sabotage to the selling of this album..this will drop it right out of sight...IYD MAY have captured an under 40 audience....this is NUTS...so..for what it's worth...(punn intended)..i DO love the song and i hope i eat these words

Videos don't really matter that much anymore sad to say. So, I don't think it's that much of an issue. They can release the song without labeling it country just fine. It'll be fine :)

RockALittle250 06-17-2011 02:21 AM

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Originally Posted by jrpjr (Post 994329)
absolutly love the song...but there is no video..its not going to get any airplay on adult contemporary stations....nevermind top 100 pop/rock stations...if "secret love" was a dud...based on what happened with the albums fall from 6 to 89 in 2 weeks...why in gods name would you release a "country" single for an artist who been titled "queen of rock?" this is just sabotage to the selling of this album..this will drop it right out of sight...IYD MAY have captured an under 40 audience....this is NUTS...so..for what it's worth...(punn intended)..i DO love the song and i hope i eat these words

Actually, Secret Love really wasn't a dud. It charted in the top 20 on the AC charts, which for an artist of Stevie's age is a pretty big deal.

Also, the album fell from 6 to 87 in 6 weeks, not 2. But it's still not having the legs that it should have.

jellyman10 06-17-2011 03:19 AM

It feels like the promotion of IYD has been hamstrung by hedging from the start. Too much 'wait and see what it does' before investing in a proper campaign. No doubt Stevie getting sick right on launch day was a fairly big setback, though. And is it likely that concert promoters would look at that and wonder how reliable an act she is, therefore making it take longer to draw up the tour schedule? And all the while, weeks go by, great reviews come in but the record label aren't sure which way to jump?

As for FWIW being the new single, I guess I look at it like if 'Landslide' still gets played to death everywhere, then why not this? Radio can play them back-to-back, like 'then and now'?

I think it's the best song on the album. Not my absolute favourite because it makes me cry every single time, and sometimes I'm too busy to be bothered with emotional armageddon - but bloody hell, what a song that is.

Loz

Artemis 06-17-2011 03:32 AM

I don't really think videos matter anymore, really. They're only useful for watching on Youtube. :shrug:

That being said, I really hope FWIW does really well, it's my favourite song on IYD and it's the one song that's most similar to her earliest work, I think.

HejiraNYC 06-17-2011 07:52 AM

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Originally Posted by jellyman10 (Post 994336)
As for FWIW being the new single, I guess I look at it like if 'Landslide' still gets played to death everywhere, then why not this? Radio can play them back-to-back, like 'then and now'?

Loz

Bingo. I think we are giving WB too much credit for actually having a strategy with this album. The powers that be probably scratched their collective heads and asked the question: "What sounds the most like "Landslide?" Duh.

I think it is a rather bizarre choice for a single. I love the fact that it is quiet and understated. But when was the last time you heard something quiet and understated on hits radio? It would only make sense if they recorded an alternate "single" version of the song in a higher key and with more instrumentation.

On a positive note, if Stevie chooses to perform this on television, at least we know she will be able to do it well.

jkmaletic 06-17-2011 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sywlindseyfan (Post 994321)
Ok wait a minute, so we have all the tour dates? why are there only 15!?!?!?!

We don't have all 15 yet. We have 11 so far.

Jamie

Beachwood Mac 06-17-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 994356)
Bingo. I think we are giving WB too much credit for actually having a strategy with this album.

Exactly. I wouldn't even admit that I was part of the marketing team representing Stevie. Everything about this album and upcoming tour is being handled by amateurs. Even an intern would have better ideas.

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 994356)
I think it is a rather bizarre choice for a single.

This single won't bring in new fans. It's geared towards everyone who has already bought the album. It's not radio friendly and won't increase sales which used to be the reason to release a single.

Jondalar 06-17-2011 10:15 AM

This song is nice but I'm very surprised its the second single. Not sure it will get much airplay.

Jondalar 06-17-2011 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Beachwood Mac (Post 994386)
Exactly. I wouldn't even admit that I was part of the marketing team representing Stevie. Everything about this album and upcoming tour is being handled by amateurs. Even an intern would have better ideas.



This single won't bring in new fans. It's geared towards everyone who has already bought the album. It's not radio friendly and won't increase sales which used to be the reason to release a single.

I agree. But I'm also sick of people blaming Stevie's marketing team. Everytime one of her albums fails its because of the marketing team. The problem isn't the marketing team. The problem is radio.

They want to play a new Stevie song like they want hemorrhoids. They're the ones who have put her out to pasture. Stevie's marketing team did a TV blizz with Stevie that got the album to #6. Now she is no longer doing tv appearances and none of the songs have a presence on radio. Of course the album is going to go down.

TISL did twice as good because of the Dance and because the record sales were twice as much back then. This album is twice or three times better than TISL but Stevie has been releagated to Has-been status. That's radio and Stevie's fault.

mezzoforte 06-17-2011 10:24 AM

I think it's a good choice. Sure, it doesn't scream "radio friendly!" but it was the critics' overwhelming favorite--it can clearly pull people in. The title track, on the other hand, is catchier but unlikely to make any non-fans fall in love.

holidayroad 06-17-2011 10:26 AM

It amazes me that they chose the worst song on the album for a single.

Christopher 06-17-2011 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by holidayroad (Post 994394)
It amazes me that they chose the worst song on the album for a single.

FWIW is far from the worst song on the album. We can debate whether or not it is radio friendly or single worthy, but worst song? Thats a B I G stretch. But I'm also of the opinion that IYD has no duds (not including My Heart;)) Yes, IYD has songs that are too esoteric for radio, but still make great album tracks. Reprise may have decided on FWIW as a single because of all the accolades & mentions this song received from critics , as a stand-out track, when IYD was reviewed. I think it's a brave & refreshing choice. What do they have to lose at this point :shrug:. If and when there is a 3rd radio release, they may be holding onto "Moonlight" till the fall when the next Twilight movie starts getting traction.

wheart 06-17-2011 10:59 AM

I adore this song but it's the wrong choice for a single. In Your Dreams, Annabel Lee or Moonlight would have been far better choices. Annabel Lee is so freaking obvious it's not even funny. Oh well. We'll see what happens.

WildHearted 06-17-2011 11:42 AM

What IS super radio friendly of Stevie's, let's be honest? Right now the top 40 radio is dominated by dance/pop and rap/hiphop. That's not Stevie. Of all of Stevie's songs on the album, I think it's the best bet for a single because it's really accesible/relatable, has a timeless sound, and it could also find a place to crossover to country radio. It's not like this type of song is unheard of on radio, either, Plain White T's acousticy songs get played all the time. Like the OP mentioned, Stevie can perform it consistently.

fumidesigns 06-17-2011 12:19 PM

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Originally Posted by holidayroad (Post 994394)
It amazes me that they chose the worst song on the album for a single.

says who????!!!


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