'75 Fleetwood Mac - Analyze Your Least Favorites
 

Time to start the "Least Favorite Fleetwood Mac Song" contest! We start with the '75 White album. Use the 6 categories below to rate your least favorites.

Worst Lyrics -

The "used to likes" -

Songs that could have been better -

Everybody's favorite but not mine -

Much better performed live -

Overall least favorite -

I'll play....
worst lyrics - Sugar Daddy
used to like - Over My Head
coulda been better - Rhiannon!! i prefer the single version TOTALLY
everybody favorite but not mine - Crystal I wouldve rather just Stevie sang it
better live - Rhiannon (back in the day)
overall least fav - Sugar Daddy... only song i just don't like AT ALL:sorry:

Worst Lyrics - Monday Morning

The "used to likes" - Monday Morning

Songs that could have been better - Over My Head (feels kind of... empty)

Everybody's favorite but not mine - Landslide

Much better performed live - Rhiannon (up until The Dance era)

Overall least favorite - Monday Morning

See, this IS going to get ugly. "Sugar Daddy" is a great song. Would have made a great last track for a pop album. And represents a near-definitive Myth of a sociological phenomenon (it would later be replaced by the Pet Shop Boys' "Rent").

Worst Lyrics - Blue Letter cuz it wasn't written by LSC :laugh:

The "used to likes" - Still love them all (but see below's everybody's fav)

Songs that could have been better - none

Everybody's favorite but not mine - ISA - I recognize its brilliance and it is the perfect closer for an album/artists of greater ambition than they are usually recognized. But I wouldn't exactly call it my faaaavorite--it's a touch pretentious :lol:

Much better performed live - World Turning - Surprisingly fun when you're there in person (not to listen to on a bootleg or watch at home though)

Overall least favorite - World Turning

Worst Lyrics - "Warm Ways." I can't be the only one who shudders at "You made me a woman tonight." :eek:

The "used to likes" - "My Little Demon." After a while I realized that it was that song on The Dance that was separating me from "Silver Springs," so it is always skipped now.

Songs that could have been better - "Smile at You." Puhlease. :rolleyes:

Everybody's favorite but not mine - "I Don't Want to Know." It is utterly forgettable.

Much better performed live - "Silver Springs"

Overall least favorite - "I'm So Afraid." It's plodding and overlong, especially in concert. Definitely a bathroom break song.

i thought that we were supposed to only pick from the White Album? and then there would be one for Rumours...etc..

You are correct--and STILL the White album got two mentions including the final choice. :lol:

yeah this is just for the songs from the white album. Any other categories you think would work let me know. :)

Worst lyrics Monday Morning

Used to Like Landslide, Sugar Daddy,

Songs that could have been better Over my Head....without a doubt

Everybody's Favorite, but not mine Rhiannon...god I've never seen the greatness.:shrug:

Songs performed better live I'm So Afraid:thumbsup:

Overall least Fav Rhiannon:sorry:

Mick

Worst Lyrics - I like the song 'Sugar Daddy' but the lyrics are a little 'off'.

The "used to likes" - 'Monday Morning'- I used to like it better. I'm unsure why I don't think it's as good now.

Songs that could have been better - 'World Turning'

Everybody's favorite but not mine - 'Landslide'

Much better performed live - 'I'm So Afraid'

Overall least favorite -'World Turning'

I suspect what you might be responding to is that, to me, on this song Christine's voice sounds more like it did in recordings prior to 1975's white album.

Anyway, maybe I'm projecting: that's the hump I had to get over to finally appreciate it for all of its greatness.

This is like pulling teeth--I love almost the entire white album. Their most even set, IMO.

Worst Lyrics - Warm Ways--I like the song, but like Hejira I invariably wince at "you made me a woman."

The "used to likes" - None, really.

Songs that could have been better - Monday Morning

Everybody's favorite but not mine - I'm So Afraid

Much better performed live - Rhiannon (once upon a time)

Overall least favorite - Blue Letter
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Much harder to do this for this album than any of the others, I just realised.

Worst Lyrics - Warm Ways.

The "used to likes" - Not sure.

Songs that could have been better - Crystal

Everybody's favorite but not mine - I'm So Afraid.

Much better performed live - Rhiannon pre-1982. World Turning.

Overall least favorite - Warm Ways

Worst Lyrics - Warm Ways. (The song sounds gorgeous though, which makes me want to sing along, which... blergh)

The "used to likes" - Monday Morning (nice opener, but it lost its lustre pretty quick)

Songs that could have been better - Landslide (the vocal on this version isn't my favorite)

Everybody's favorite but not mine - Over My Head (if I have to pick)

Much better performed live - Blue Letter (I love John and Mick on this)

Overall least favorite - Monday Morning

Special Announcement
 

So you think you know your fellow Ledgies? PM me what you think will win each battle. The Ledgie with the most correct predictions wins.

Least Favorite White album Christine song -
Least Favorite White album Lindsey song -
Least Favorite White album Stevie song -
Least Favorite Song from the White album -

Send in your predictions before Thursday at noon (US central time). :cool:

Worst Lyrics - Sugar Daddy

The "used to likes" - Blue Letter

Songs that could have been better - Landslide

Everybody's favorite but not mine - Crystal- Lindsey sounds like a eunuch.

Much better performed live - Rhiannon

Overall least favorite - Warm Ways

Worst lyrics
Warm Ways

The "used to likes"
Say You Love Me

Songs that could have been better
The vocal on Landslide could have been a lot better.

Everybody's favorite but not mine
I'm So Afraid

Much better performed live
Monday Morning & World Turning

Overall least favorite
Warm Ways

Worst Lyrics - Sugar Daddy

The "used to likes" - Dreams

Songs that could have been better - Running Through the Garden

Everybody's favorite but not mine - You Make Loving Fun

Much better performed live - Not That Funny

Overall least favorite -Sweet Girl

Worst lyrics
Over My Head. Catchy pop tune, though, so doesn't matter

The "used to likes"
still like 'em all

Songs that could have been better
none

Everybody's favorite but not mine
n/a

Much better performed live
World Turning

Overall least favorite
Sugar Daddy

Worst Lyrics – World Turning

The "used to likes" - Monday Morning - still not bad, it's just the one that has slipped the most compared to how much i used to like it

Songs that could have been better – Warm Ways – Sounds like Chris singing (albeit beautifully) over muzak & makes me feel like I’m waiting to see the orthodontist

Everybody's favorite but not mine – World Turning

Much better performed live – Over My Head

Overall least favorite – World Turning


- Jake

Worst Lyrics - I think Christine is pretty weak, lyrically, most of the time but this album is close to her worst. Honestly, has anyone ever made sex sound quite so flaccid as in 'Warm Ways'?

The "used to likes" - I still like LB's very high, sweet voice on 'Crystal', and I massively prefer it to his present singing-through-a-mouthful-of-vomit stylee. But I don't really like the song any more. 'Crystalline knowledge' is so naff it could've been written by C. McVie.

Songs that could have been better - Most of CM and LB's tracks would have benefited from making Stevie's backing vocals audible?

Everybody's favorite but not mine - 'I'm So Afraid'. Awww, diddums. :rolleyes:

Much better performed live - Well, this would have to be 'Rhiannon', back in the day. I quite like the piano intro of later years, though, too.

Overall least favorite - The ghastly 'Sugar Daddy', a song that amply demonstrates why Christine McVie's proper place was always right where she started: filling in a bit of bluesy piano in her boyfriend's pub band.

Worst Lyrics: Warm Ways

The "used to likes": Landslide

Songs that could have been better: Over My Head

Everybodys favourite but not mine: Rhiannon

Much better performed live: World Turning

Overall least favourite: Sugar Daddy

Are you f*ing kidding me? Are you actually...

I can't. I'm just logging off here and now.

http://warriorwriters.files.wordpres...0/12/troll.jpg

Though as much as I hate to admit it he was right about this much:

"I massively prefer it to his present singing-through-a-mouthful-of-vomit stylee"

:(

^^^ OK, OK, I admit that last bit about Christine was harsh. I admit it. But it's not a million miles away from the sort of thing the woman has said about herself from time to time. I mean, does anyone read the Blue Letter Archives at all any more? I just went and had a quick look and found this:

"Let's face it, I'm an adequate amateur at best. At heart, I still like to play the blues more than anything else."
C. McVie, interview in "Contemporary Keyboard" (1980)

But it was harsh, and as was predicted earlier in the thread, this type of poll does provoke negativity. ButterCookie, you've said the same yourself on the Stevie forum.

Loz (female - I know, I have a stupid username)

Chris was referring only to her piano skills.

I agree with her self-assessment; but it doesn't take into consideration something that has become clear over the years: the style in her conceptions & executions.

Imagine a far greater technician of the keyboard -- Roy Bittan of the E Street Band -- writing the electric piano & organ parts for Dreams. The style would have been all wrong.

Her piano skills were partly what I was referring to, too, as part of my wider opinion that 'Sugar Daddy' exemplifies very well the bottom end of what she was able to accomplish in terms of composition in her years in FM.

The bit about her proper place being in a pub band was harsh, as I've conceded. But I really would urge all Ledgies to spend a little time reading the archives on this board, because it's easy to build up an image of someone that is quite at variance with most things they've ever said or done in public.

For example, read the first four articles in the Christine section of the Blue Letter Archives and then tell me that that incarnation of her doesn't make you feel just a little bit queasy? She was a feminist's nightmare. So was Stevie, up till at least Tusk, and in many ways still is. :lol:

Ooh, fun.


Worst Lyrics - Warm Ways

The "used to likes" - I used to like Rhiannon. I also used to like Over My Head.

Songs that could have been better - Crystal

Everybody's favorite but not mine - Rhiannon

Much better performed live - I'm So Afraid

Overall least favorite -Warm Ways

This is just for the songs from the white album. :)

Oh, didn't read the directions -- or the thread title!


Michele

Sugar Daddy is my favorite song on the White Album. And always has been my favorite.

Opinions are like a**holes. Some are bigger than others.:wavey:

i think you might be mixing typical British self deprecating ways of expression (recent Colin Firth interviews and acceptance speeches are good examples), very different from trying to project a grandiose picture of yourself in order to sell your qualities (we are used to hearing that from people like Stevie ("highly successful cleaning lady" "first woman rocking" etc) or Lindsey ("visionary" - even though that originated from RS, but he does love repeating it), and Mick even though British seems to have some similar inclinations:rolleyes:). that said, i have to admit i haven't read the interviews with Christine you are referring to but she strikes me as a self-deprecating dry-humor type.


The "used to likes" - Crystal, Blue Letter

Songs that could have been better – World Turning - i love it, but the version somewhere in between the album and live would be perfect

Everybody's favorite but not mine – Rhiannon

Much better performed live – I'm So Afraid

Worst Lyrics-Sugar Daddy

The "used to likes"-Over My Head

Songs that could have been better-Over My Head

Everybody's favorite but not mine-I'm So Afraid, not that I don't like it, I just don't get why it deserves a 30 minute long rendition live.

Much better performed live-Landslide

Overall least favorite-Warm Ways

I don't think Christine's interviews are exactly at variance with the public's perception of her. If anything, I might think of her as being at variance with herself. Meaning she sometimes describes her role as one thing, when in reality it was quite a lot more.

I don't know if it was an article or an essay someone wrote, but I recall reading a discussion of the passive, pliant, needy nature of Christine's song lyrics. Oh, think about me, every once in a while, type pleas. I'll be here waiting. And of course, many of her songs do have that element. Even Lindsey said that he thought Christine's influence made Stevie's music less agressive and masculine than it had been before, which I found an odd observation. In fact, I might argue that he made Christine more feminine sometimes (i.e. Hold Me).

At any rate, my reaction to that article about the docile nature of Christine's song lyrics was to think, well that's fine but look at her life. She got to where she was on strength, skill and talent and I don't think she played second fiddle to anyone in that band, man or woman. She might have been a doormat in her love life and maybe her lyrics reflected that, but in her professional life she was not at all subservient. For me her songs didn't have to make a statement, because the life she led as a musician and songwriter, spoke for her. She didn't have to talk about equality, because she exemplified it.

And many of the things I know about her, aren't something I've heard her discuss in interviews. She doesn't talk about how she pretty much led rehearsals for the group. Kept things on track. I hear her do that on demos. If I listened to her in interviews, I would think she just sat back in a corner being a quiet part of the rhythm section and that wasn't the case. Before joining FM, I don't think she was just sitting at home waiting for John to return from the road and give her a sense of completion either. I think what she said and did were sometimes two different things, and one doesn't necessarily contradict the other, it just provides a fuller picture.

Michele

Thankyou for posting that, Michele :) I wanted to say something similar but just couldn't form the words without getting wound up.

Don't forget to PM me your predictions. I've only received 2 so far!

Least Favorite White album Christine
Least Favorite White album Lindsey
Least Favorite White album Stevie
Least Favorite Song from the white album

Deadline is Thursday @ noon (central US time) :cool:

Amen!!!!!!! And the lyrics are witty, quite sassy.

Worst Lyrics - I'm so Afraid

The "used to likes" - Actually, I still love all the songs on this record.

Songs that could have been better - Crystal--more precisely, Stevie's harmonies on this, which aren't as powerful as they are on the BN record.

Everybody's favorite but not mine - Maybe Landslide?

Much better performed live - I'm So Afraid

Overall least favorite - Hard to say. It's my favorite Mac album for a reason...

I don't even care about the lyrics!!!
I just think that piano, and B-3, and guitar solo, make for the perfekt FM song!:thumbsup: