NOMINATIONS: Favorite Rumours Era Song
 

I guess you mean Rumours lineup, not era. I've always seen a defined era conformed by the White Album- Rumours - Tusk .

Mick described it so, when he tells about the Tusk tour end:
Three days later, in front of a sold-out audience at the Hollywood Bowl, Lindsey leaned into the mike and announced, "This is our last concert . . . for a long time." I'll never forget Stevie's "Landslide" that night, the way she sang about growing older in her scratchy, uncertain voice. It was an ineffable moment. After the show, we had a classic locker-room victory celebration kisses, hugs, champagne, intense feelings of relief mingled with fatigue. To me it felt like the end of an era. And it indeed turned out to be exactly that.

Mirage and Tango belong to a different era, defined by a new decade, a 5 years interval between albums, and the presence of solo works. The late 70s Fleetwood Mac era is far different.

You've got to be kidding me. This is possibly the hardest decision I've ever had to make, haha.

I got bored, this was the result:

Here on the Ledge, there are 3 eras - Pre-Rumours, Rumours, and Post-Rumours. Where besides Rumours era would Mirage, Tango, and SYW go? :shrug:

Ridiculously hard choice.

I went for Rhiannon and Gypsy though. No Rhiannon = No Stevie Nicks.

Gypsy is simply a masterpiece.

Had to go with The Chain and Go Your Own way.

"Rhiannon" & "Go Your Own Way" for me.


Since Mirage, Tango & The Dance have the same personnel as the Rumours album, they're DEFINITELY Rumours era.

TECHNICALLY, SYW should go "Post-Rumours", since Christine is gone. If you count SYW to be Rumours-era without one member from that era, then you might as well count BTM as Rumours-era since only one member from that era is gone, as well. Yeah, that's what I thought.

I'd probably agree with you here. Tusk, Mirage, Rumours and so on are most definitely Rumours Lineup/Era. Behind The Mask (Tango In The Night tour if we're nitpicking), Say You Will and any future project would be post Rumours. But if we were nitpicking to such a degree, in the same breath we'd have to cut them down even further. So there would have to be a Peter Green era, a Bob Welch era and such. To save confusion and just to make an otherwise overly complicated lineup history more simple, Pre, Rumours and Post are the easiest to stick to and pretty much differentiated by a missing link.


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If I were able to vote at the present moment, I would vote for Rhiannon and Gypsy. But my favourite songs are ever mercurial so that could change in as little as an hour hehe.

But if you do that then you might as well count Rumours era as Pre-Rumours since only one member (Bob Welch) was gone. ;)

The standard here seems to be SYW is Rumours era. So I guess it goes Pre-Rumours, Rumours, Post-Rumours and then Rumours minus 1...maybe they can create another forum dividing 75-87 and 97-2010.

Actually the '75 FM album could be counted as Pre-Rumours since it came before Rumours!! :shrug:

But back on topic, these 8 are all great songs. Its gonna be hard for me to pick my two, not that it's easy for you guys!! :cool:

I voted for The Chain and Gypsy

The Ledge define forums, not necessarily eras, I guess.

Since you "friendly" say DEFINITELY, and in uppercase (shouting according to some internet/email standards), I'm afraid to answer... but... who cares... :laugh:

I still feel Tango and Mirage from different eras. Even with the divorces/breakups nightmares during Rumours, Tusk, those albums (with the band) seems more from a strong band.

During Mirage and Tango, members had their own lawyers, interests, agreements. They had grown. They were in their late 30s. Impossible to be on the same "swing". It is "definitely" a different era to me. A strong group still, but some chemistry was being lost.

As the Beatles, always the same personnel but different haircuts, lyrics,. The first albums (circa 1962-66) contains songs about a crush on a girl, being in love, pop sound, etc. The late albums (1967-70) are more of the hippie era, long haircuts, the flower power, peace & love, some deep lyrics, maybe LSD or diamonds ;), etc.. "Definitely" different eras. But the same personnel

So why not 2 different eras during the Rumours lineup?

Which irks me to no end, because it ISN'T. :mad: No Christine, NOT Rumours era. To me Rumours-era is: Mick, John, Chris, Lindsey, Stevie...as a unit. Hence, '75 album, Rumours, Tusk, Live (1980), Mirage, Tango In The Night, most of tie 1988 Greatest Hits, The Dance.

Behind The Mask, Time, Say You Will, & Live In Boston (2003) are POST-Rumours era albums. Since not all of the qualifying 5 members are involved. Ok, those may argue that "Christine makes an appearance or two on SYW", well, so does Lindsey on both BTM & Time...but those aren't considered Rumours era.

A proposed compromise: If SYW is to be considered Rumours-era, then the Rumours forum name should be changed to "Buckingham & Nicks-era". That would be the only way SYW could qualify. But, as is, the criteria of being the 5 members who were on Rumours, it doesn't and shouldn't.

Please don't kill me or put me down in any way when i say this.

I kinda consider SYW to be Rumours era part 2 cause, sure you're missing a member, but it is essentially the same lineup and it sounds pretty close musically to my ears, almost an updated version for the new millenium.

When someone says post-Rumours, I immediately have visions of Rick and Billy and BTM and Time, not SYW

..... In your opinion.

The board has developed a long standing concensus without it.

I agree. Completely my own opinion, and I apologise to anybody who doesn't share it, but personally the term "Post Rumours" is synonymous with dip in quality and standards. Say You Will is a return to the mentality that made the Rumours era so great, so should even be an honorary member despite Chris' regrettable abscence.

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I had to give it to you Bee. Couldn't have said it any better

*Runs and hides for cover in case war breaks out*

Not shouting, just stressing the point. :shrug:

I don't believe an era is defined necessarily just by members.
I described the Beatles
Bee Gees: pre and post Saturday Night Fever
U2: lot of eras
QUEEN before and after The Game = 70s and 80s = not synth and with synths
etc...

even singers may have different eras:
Olivia: pre and post Grease (confirmed by herself)
Elton John
David Bowie
Rod Stewart

Speaking of different eras, my all-time fave band, Led Zeppelin, does have some big diffs between I-IV and Houses of the Holy to In Through the Out Door. During their second half, they explore more genres and push more boundaries, which is quite evident (and the reason why I love) Physical Graffiti

Another one is Foreigner. After I Want to Know What Love Is hit #1, their whole image changed (and led to a huge fight between Mick Jones and Lou Gramm about it too)

Boo. Strongly disagree.

Not even close. Not only is the #1 hitmaker gone, but so is the only singer, who still has an impressive voice.

But Chris and Stevie were on BTM, and Chris on Time. So by your logic, BTM is a Rumours lineup. After all they're only missing one member!:confused:

I knew this was gonna happen, that someone was gonna put me down :(

Maybe I should learn to keep my controversial opinions to myself

We all have our opinions, and are certainly entitled to them. Posting them though, of course, opens them up for debate.

For me, FM really ceased to exist, after The Dance. Without Chris, I have very little interest now. And look how they STILL milk Tumours, 34!!!! years after it was released. If that's not down right EMBARRASSING, for them as artists, I'll kiss your ass. They're an OLDIES act now. Not because of their age, but their lack of artistic direction.

You know what chilid, AND SYW, should go under rumours, so i have to disagree with you on that chillid!!

Hommer i have to agree with ladyloki!!!

*Takes a deep breath* I don't believe I am actually doing this :distress:

Take a listen to Tusk and tell me: does that sound even remotely like they're trying to milk Rumours? I don't think so.

And if they're such an oldies act, then why do classic rock stations play 'em still? And if you wanna know a band that became an oldies act due to lack of artistic direction from one great album, listen to the Beach Boys. I think you got your histories mixed up

CHILLID, PLEASE GET THE FACTS STRAIGHT!!! IVE BEEN A ADDICTED FLEETWOOD MAC ADDICT FOR 6 YEARS NOW!!! OHH AND ANOTHER THING ABOUT SAY YOU WILL, SO WHAT IF CHRISTINE MCVIE ISN'T THERE, REMEBER HER VOCALS ARE ON BACKUP ON MOST SONGS!!!!! I KNOW!!!

Ok I'll be quiet and play nicely. Maybe this is why I should keep my mouth shut for now on :distress:

You don't follow my logic very well.
The FM to which I refer, is NOT FM from 1979. Or 1982. Or 1987. Or 1997.
The FM to which I'm referring, is the lounge act that they've become, NOW, with all that idiotic "shipper" crap in the set.

just trying to get my point acrose!

Um OK, I guess I'll leave then and just accept your opinion, but I must ask: why are you even here posting if you don't like the band anymore? :shrug:

So? What does that mean? She wins?;)

whoa homer,

YES IT DOES!!!

Because, believe it or not, some of us have been discussing FM, for FIFTEEN years. Me, David O, Steve MacDougal...and others too. Back in the stone age, there was an internet app, called Usenet. And there was a FM newsgroup, on Usenet. That's where we met! Soon to be SIXTEEN years ago.

And just because I don't prefer the FM of now, doesn't mean I can't still talk about, and appreciate, the FM of the past, does it?

May I ask your age? NO offense, whatsoever. You just don't seem to follow logical arguments, very well. I'm just curious.

ok great!!!!!!!!!!!