Silver Springs from The Dance
 

Silver Springs from The Dance...

I just love this song, this version of the song. So soft yet full of power. Great harmonies and vocals, one of the reasons I love Fleetwood Mac.:woohoo:

Not only is Silver Springs my favourite Fleetwood Mac song, but this version is my all time favourite. Adore how it begins somewhat slowly, only to pick up pace until it gathers itself up into a glorious crescendo at the end. To me it's the musical equivelant of fireworks, and no feeling I ever had about an FM song will ever compare to how breathless and awed I was at this version the first time I saw it on the DVD. I fell in deep love.

Ahhh, this is the first thing I ever obsessed about to do with Fleetwood Mac. It never fails to make my heart race. Stevie practically screams the last part at Lindsey, and almost tears the mike from the stand. Christine is just staring from her keyboard. It is so powerful, I think a lot of the anger from not having it on Rumours, (though she was probably over it by then) and not being able to put it on Timespace finally boiled over for Stevie and she probably said, 'Okay, I'm gonna sing the living **** out of this song... take that!'

It appears that Linds has to leave the stage after the last line for a second, I can't really tell.

I watched it with my friend and after he was like, 'What just happened?' I said, 'I can't really explain it to you, it's a Lindsey/Stevie thing'

Geez...Nicksy practically castrated him out there. Anyways, does anyone know of the version where she starts crying and Lindsey has to finish singing it for her?

I have that version on my iPod. It would be a million times better if it were a video, of course though.

Bee, do you think you could PM me a MP3 of that version please?

No problemo :D

Screw it. It'll be passed around anyway lol.

Lindsey finishes Silver Springs - http://www.mediafire.com/?544ue3qb44434s9

Enjoy!

I remember when I first watched The Dance. I'd been listening to the Mac since I was 7 (1977) and by 1997 I thought their days were pretty much over. I watched the show, was pleasantly surprised and pleased with the first half of it, particularly with "Temporary One" and "Bleed to Love Her," but wasn't outright blown away.

But when Stevie began singing Silver Springs I nearly **** myself. Her voice was in perfect form! The band sounded great backing her, and Christine's harmonies were fantastic (she retained her top range). When I saw Stevie turn to Lindsey and rip his face off, I jumped out of my seat and yelled "Yes! Yes!!!!!"

I had the same response, though I'd only been following Fleetwood Mac since '93 when I was 11. For those of us who were Rumours era Mac fans in the early/mid '90s, it really did seem like Hell would freeze over before we'd see those 5 people together again. Then it indeed happened, and we all peed our pants a little. :laugh:

Much like you, I was rather blah regarding the first several songs. Dreams wasn't so hot in my opinion... it sounded like a lounge band does Fleetwood Mac. Stevie's voice just sounded so... different on much of the songs on The Dance too. But the passion on Gold Dust and Silver Springs really blew my socks off, and probably caused me to lose bowel control in the process. :lol:

It's interesting, I never watch the Dance anymore... so just seeing Silver Springs here is like such a time machine. It just really takes me back to being a dorky kid in high school who idolized this dinosaur band which couldn't have been less cool at the time :p. Hard to believe the Dance was almost a decade and a half ago now!

[Just saw this article about rejected songs. It's from last year, but since SS was being discussed and I didn't see it posted before, I thought I'd put up the FM excerpt]

Yahoo, NME Music Blog 11-28-2009, by Luke Lewis
http://new.music.yahoo.com/blogs/new...d-from-albums/

Tell a certain kind of serious-minded music fan that Fleetwood Mac's Rumours isn't perfect, and he'll give you an uppercut to the jaw. And he'd be right to. I love that album more than is probably healthy. Yet even a tragic Fleetwood Mac nerd like me would admit that it could have been better.

This morning, during a rain-lashed trudge to work, "Oh Daddy"came on my iPod--the closest thing Rumours has to a filler track--and I thought, "What, you included this, yet you rejected Stevie Nicks' astonishing, hymn-like ballad 'Silver Springs,' a song that positively bellows: Rousing Album-Closer?"
Fortunately, that song was rescued from obscurity when it was included on the 2004 reissue. It's now a live favorite. But it makes you wonder what on earth was going through the band's coke- and heartbreak-addled minds back in 1977. It also set me thinking about other

I just don't understand all the universal hatred for Oh Daddy. I think it's Christine's Gold Dust Woman. It's gorgeous and ethereal. To me, the one filler song on Rumours is I Don't Want To Know. I love it, it's fun and foot tapping, always makes me smile... but it's pop fluff. While I adore Silver Springs, I think Mick was right to pull it... it was just too long, heavy, and didn't necessarily lay well with the other Rumours tracks.

Count me as part of the universe. Thought I had dodged a bullet when this wasn't on the Dance DVD then I get to the concert and There. It. Is.

Tragic, surprise. How do you make a decision like that? We are going to dump Over My Head and put Oh Daddy in its place. Yeah, who does this?

Michele

That 1997 version of "Over My Head" was worth dropping in my opinion anyway. Compared to the earlier versions (see the 1980 live album, I believe that one is from 1977 and is a great version), the Dance DVD version is beyond boring!

I agree about "Oh Daddy," it's a favorite Christine song of mine though I admit it has grown on me a lot over the years. I could see people not really LOVING it, but I never could get the hatred that is out there for it. There are some other stinkers Chris has (count me amongst those that think "Only Over You" is one of the crappiest tunes Chris ever put on an album) which would get my hate vote long before "Oh Daddy."

Is there a greater moment in the history of pop culture? Seriously...

Why She never got the Rock Vocal Grammy she was nominated for is beyond me . She didn't win it, right?

They didn't win any of the Grammy nods they got that year. :(

WHAT IS WRONG with the world? :distress:

Your mood is like a circus wheel :laugh: Oh Daddy is way better!

I remember being ridiculously excited about seeing The Dance on TV. I had been a FM fan since I was a kid in the late 70s and a crazy chiffon-head during the 80s and early 90s. Until The Dance, the only "current" FM footage I had seen was the inauguration, so I was nervous for Stevie. She looked stunning and I remember being totally blown away by Silver Springs- I had never heard it before (I thought it was a new song until her line at the end about it being a great old song).

For me, this is one of the handful of times during "modern" Stevie performances where she seems to lose herself and I love it. It never gets old watching this- thanks for posting.

In the old Usenet days, I remember seeing that someone had posted an advanced WAV clip of "Silver Springs" in the Fleetwood Mac newsgroup. I remember being completely shocked that they even attempted to do this (my fave FM song at the time) and I was dying to find out how it sounded. So I proceeded to download it via my pokey dial-up modem onto my "capacious" 210mb hard drive, which took three. farging. hours. The three longest hours of my life. While it was downloading, I was fretting about all kinds of things- Did she change the melody? Did she change it to a lower key? Will it be anywhere near the original? Needless to say, all of my fears melted away when I finally played it. I was completely blown away and then some. My first reaction was "Mama's back." :nod:

Oh Daddy is a masterpiece of music. Period. There isn't anything else like it in all of rock/pop. It is such a singular performance and it could only be sung so effectively by Christine. More than any song, I think it bears her thumbprint.

Why do so many people despise it? Who the hell knows! My assumption is because it is such an intensely personal song about subjugation. To understand and appreciate this song, people have to recognize those feelings in themselves. If they don't or won't, the song will seem strange.

One thing is sure: Oh Daddy is not filler. It is MILES better than the original version of Silver Springs, which doesn't reach its full potential until The Dance. Stevie might have been angry that it didn't make it on to the record, but the band made the right choice. That song emerged as a prominent part of their shows when it needed, when her voice was ready to sing those lyrics with the depth and wisdom they require. She sounds like a chipmunk in the original version.

I don't mean to start a war here, but I have heard "Oh Daddy" referred to as Christine's most "Stevie like" song...:shrug:

Stevie also said it was her favourite song by Christine

I seem to remember hearing that before but can't remember where!! I've assorbed so much FM info yet can't remember half of it. :lol:

... and how on earth did "Oh Daddy" take over this thread...oh well! :laugh:

Hell yes she was! I wish those vocals could translate to studio albums, but for some reason she just sounds better live these days. How Still My Love from Soundstage is a perfect example.

yeah! it was on some fan interview thing from 1998 where they asked her what was her favourite Lindsey and Christine song, and she said Oh Daddy cause its got a "real tibetan vibe" and Stephanie of the BuckinghamNicks record.

LOL yes enough about Oh Daddy, Silver Springs is amazing.

I agree wholeheartedly. I'm really hoping her new album will be great. I'm figuring we will get some great vocals outta her because she said she's singing on chords she's never sung in before.

I have a great feeling about the new album, but I remain cautiously optimistic! I know our girl has it in her :)

I think you're right. And I read somewhere where Christine said Stevie helped her come up with the line "And I can't walk away from you, baby if I tried." That was a cool tidbit!

This would make sense, as the line pays no regard whatsoever to grammatical tense ;)

I thought it was As Long as You Follow.

Which is why I take everything Stevie says with a grain of salt. ;)

Love the scene in Destiny Rules where Lindsey's trying to correct her shifts from third to second person and she says that her lyrics are beyond criticism because they are beautiful. "You wouldn't criticize Bob Dylan's words..." And so forth. I laughed out loud.

One or two people smack-talked it while claiming Silver Springs should have been included on Rumours.

I'm protective of Oh Daddy because of the reasons I stated above. I can see why someone might not like Only Over You (I like it, but...), though I'm simply baffled when people don't recognize the power of Oh Daddy.

I'm in the Oh Daddy corner. I love the way the intensity builds in the verses.

I guess it's sort of a grower, the melody didn't immediately strike me on first listen, but I find some of Chris' songs are like that, including Only Over You or Over & Over. I can't speak in the technical sense (I just play stuff by ear), but it seems like those songs are a bit jazzy, a kind of restrained rhythm. And there's always so much going on in those tracks, little flourishes from the guitar or interesting harmony vocals, etc. I love it! I wanna go listen to Oh Daddy with some big noise canceling earphones now.

As for Silver Springs, I definitely agree that the Dance version is best. I heard it first on the remastered Rumours CD and loved it, but where she just sounds angry in the original, the Dance version sounds completely heart-wrenching.

That scene always made me chuckle too....it's scenes like this where I always imagined John and Chris would look at each other, roll their eyes, and have some more wine.

Listening to Rumours I always skip over Songbird and Oh Daddy. In the live shows Oh Daddy always sounds good, never to be skipped but for the longest time, like 1977-whenever I wasn't interested in the live Oh Daddy because it was always played after the live Rhiannon. My ears would be ringing and I didn't want to be pulled down from that incredible rush from the Welsh Goddess to the hushed Daddy. But when I listen to those live recordings nowadays, I do enjoy the transition from fast to slow.

Haha, you have to, or you'll make yourself nuts proving her wrong. Stevie, to her credit, tries to be specific on details, but sometimes it just seems odd. Sometimes she's accurate ("when we went into rehearsals on january 5th of this year") and other times, ("we took this song out of the set 12 years ago") not so much. I don't know, I just think to myself, did you need to specify January 5th? Does it matter that rehearsals started that specific day and that you guys decided to play Storms and get it on stage accurately after 30 years? But, that's Stevie...her little rambles are amusing if nothing else.

If I listen to Rumours in its entirety, say on my iPod, I skip Songbird or move it to the end. I think on vinyl with the different sides, Songbird was a great closer before starting side 2 with The Chain, but if you just play the album through...Go Your Own Way, Songbird, The Chain just don't go together...at least by my ears.

Those 1980 versions of Oh Daddy are excellent, I love the build up to the song..to me it gives it the "spooky" feeling that usually is reserved for Stevie's stuff, while Chris typically has the pop/happy sounding songs.