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nailatixela 10-12-2010 08:42 PM

Jana on Fleetwood Mac back on stage
 
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Jana Anderson Well, I haven't said this in a loooong time...but, I'm almost done packing for my week singing backups with Fleetwood Mac again. Rehearsal starts Thursday and when we walk into the soundstage, it's always exciting energy to reunite. Those first hugs are pretty special. I look forward to the Rock & Roll, the restaurants... & beaches of LA, and seeing my friends. :)
From her facebook page. :shocked:

michelej1 10-12-2010 08:44 PM

Interesting. And Lindsey is doing an event at the end of the month. He probably could squeeze it in because the musicians will all have been rehearsed already.

If they're doing something corporate, I wish we could at least know what it was. Guess there are no hard feelings about her earlier words regarding touring with Stevie solo.

Michele

MissLadyLoki 10-12-2010 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nailatixela (Post 914803)
From her facebook page. :shocked:

:shocked:

Is that new?

MacMan 10-12-2010 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 914805)
Interesting. And Lindsey is doing an event at the end of the month. He probably could squeeze it in because the musicians will all have been rehearsed already.

If they're doing something corporate, I wish we could at least know what it was. Guess there are no hard feelings about her earlier words regarding touring with Stevie solo.

Michele

This IS interesting... I remember when Jana was saying she wouldn't be touring with SN that she was still part of the backup singers for FM.

LiquidDiamonds 10-12-2010 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 914805)
Interesting. And Lindsey is doing an event at the end of the month. He probably could squeeze it in because the musicians will all have been rehearsed already.

If they're doing something corporate, I wish we could at least know what it was. Guess there are no hard feelings about her earlier words regarding touring with Stevie solo.

Michele

What did she say about touring with Stevie solo?

nailatixela 10-12-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MissLadyLoki (Post 914807)
:shocked:

Is that new?

Yeah, when I first posted the topic her message was just posted 40 minutes ago.
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What did she say about touring with Stevie solo?
We never got the entire story. But she announced how she would no longer be touring with Stevie. The main drama we got was that she was upset because she found out she wouldn't be touring with Stevie, not through Stevie or her management, but from the other band mates who heard the news and unknowingly became the first to break the news of her own termination to her.

LukeA 10-12-2010 09:40 PM

Unless its for some quick casino gigs for quick cash, it doesn't make any sense. No way FM fronts a full-fledged arena tour in early '11, Stevie album implications or otherwise.

Are we sure this "update" is current?

nailatixela 10-12-2010 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeA (Post 914819)
Unless its for some quick casino gigs for quick cash, it doesn't make any sense. No way FM fronts a full-fledged arena tour in early '11, Stevie album implications or otherwise.

Are we sure this "update" is current?

Unless Jana is drunken FB posting, it is current. FB status shows it was posted by her "about an hour ago" now.

LukeA 10-12-2010 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nailatixela (Post 914820)
Unless Jana is drunken FB posting, it is current. FB status shows it was posted by her "about an hour ago" now.

Hmm. How bizarre.

If it was a corporate gig, I would think it would have leaked by now. Maybe someone rich and/or famous is getting married, or some fancy private party.

MacMan 10-12-2010 10:14 PM

This Oct date has kinda been floating around since maybe early August... But no concrete info has ever surfaced about it... Actually, first it was a date in August, a corp gig on the east coast, and it made sense cause Stevie was doing some shows... As it turns out it was a corp gig in Aug but only Stevie and not on the east coast, but in Las Vegas. Then the Oct date surfaced again, and somewhere along the way I heard mention of Australia...

A week of singing backup seems like a lot of rehearsal for just one show somewhere... maybe not.

HejiraNYC 10-12-2010 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MacMan (Post 914826)
This Oct date has kinda been floating around since maybe early August... But no concrete info has ever surfaced about it... Actually, first it was a date in August, a corp gig on the east coast, and it made sense cause Stevie was doing some shows... As it turns out it was a corp gig in Aug but only Stevie and not on the east coast, but in Las Vegas. Then the Oct date surfaced again, and somewhere along the way I heard mention of Australia...

A week of singing backup seems like a lot of rehearsal for just one show somewhere... maybe not.

I could be stretching here, but, if my foggy old brain recalls correctly, I think it's the Hope Estates Winery in NSW, Australia- west of Sydney. I could only imagine the kind of sick money they are getting paid for this gig. It's one thing if Fleetwood Mac was already on tour. And it's another thing if Fleetwood Mac was already in Australia. Obviously neither is the case. Apparently the money justifies a week of rehearsals (and awkwardness between Stevie and Jana), as well as flying equipment, crew and band members halfway around the world; this is more than just a hop across the pond. And Stevie, who is in the midst of doing her own thing at the moment, really can't be bothered unless she is making serious bank.

I think it would be interesting to keep tabs on whether or not she does show up at the Melbourne Cup.

BellaDonna93 10-13-2010 12:18 PM

This IS like awesome!! Maybe a new Mac tour already! :O but isn't Stevie's solo tour going first?? as the album will be released in march? Or what? I'm a bit confused..but anyway, good news!! XD

silvasprings 10-13-2010 07:38 PM

All i can say is that this sounds really exciting, i hope they come back to Australia, that would be really awesome!!!

I'd love to see Stevie go to the Melbourne Cup again, she might wear something different for once:D

CADreaming 10-13-2010 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 914829)
I could be stretching here, but, if my foggy old brain recalls correctly, I think it's the Hope Estates Winery in NSW, Australia- west of Sydney. I could only imagine the kind of sick money they are getting paid for this gig. .

Yep, here's the thread:

http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=43812

HejiraNYC 10-13-2010 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 914967)

Ha... no, that was something else entirely. For some reason I recall the date of the gig as October 19 and the location as Hope Estate.

BTW, that songkick website should be sued for causing angina unnecessarily. They have a couple of "Fleetwood Mac" concerts upcoming in Portugal in November. Turns out it's actually "Rumours of Fleetwood Mac." :rolleyes: I have always wanted to (pack a crate of vegan meals and) visit Portugal!

silvasprings 10-13-2010 08:34 PM

To try and get some real confirmation I sent an email to Hope Estate, they probably won't tell me anything but it's worth a try. :)

CADreaming 10-13-2010 09:12 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 914969)
Ha... no, that was something else entirely. For some reason I recall the date of the gig as October 19 and the location as Hope Estate.

BTW, that songkick website should be sued for causing angina unnecessarily. They have a couple of "Fleetwood Mac" concerts upcoming in Portugal in November. Turns out it's actually "Rumours of Fleetwood Mac." :rolleyes: I have always wanted to (pack a crate of vegan meals and) visit Portugal!

Perhaps, but I did see that same info posted on the Hope Estates facebook page that same day. It later disappeared, as I recall...

Ghost_Tracker 10-14-2010 05:58 AM

It's only a private party in California. Just a quick gig, there and back again.
Jana had mentioned that in an earlier post.

silvasprings 10-14-2010 11:05 AM

Well now i'm just gonna look like an idiot "Look Like" :lol:

Aussie W/Heart 10-14-2010 11:12 AM

LOL!!!! I was thinking of doing the same thing....:o:o

Ghost_Tracker 10-14-2010 03:00 PM

You're both in good company. . . . ;)

APerfectLie 10-14-2010 07:44 PM

Could they possibly be filming a DVD? She did say they were walking into the "soundstage".

Ghost_Tracker 10-14-2010 09:02 PM

*sigh* . . . . :rolleyes:


;)

louielouie2000 10-15-2010 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by APerfectLie (Post 915071)
Could they possibly be filming a DVD? She did say they were walking into the "soundstage".

They rehearse on soundstages before they tour/do one off shows. Just watch the Destiny Rules documentary... they spend several days or more rehearsing on soundstages before they started the Say You Will tour. They have such a huge entourage of backing musicians and singers, they have to get everybody all tightened up to perform once they've been apart for a while.

StephenC 10-15-2010 07:10 AM

I dont quite see why they would be doing this? They dont need the money and it's not for the "art". I dont remember them ever doing something like this before.

I've seen some of these corporate event performances and 75% of the audience dont care who is on stage. The atmosphere is not driven by the music... it's usually by wine!

Could this performance be for a friend?

louielouie2000 10-15-2010 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by StephenC (Post 915106)
I dont quite see why they would be doing this? They dont need the money and it's not for the "art". I dont remember them ever doing something like this before.

I've seen some of these corporate event performances and 75% of the audience dont care who is on stage. The atmosphere is not driven by the music... it's usually by wine!

Could this performance be for a friend?

Stevie has done countless corporate/private events like this. So it seems like a natural progression for Fleetwood Mac to do such a thing.

Regarding them "not needing the money"... I wouldn't be so sure. Remember artists get paid a very, very tiny portion of their album sales (we're talking just pennies per each album sold). I'd have to imagine for someone like John McVie, his portion of that is almost negligible since he's neither a singer, songwriter, nor a manager. Most bands make true money in touring. But knowing the breakdown of the band's salaries, John and Mick reportedly get 15% each of the profits, while Lindsey gets 30% and Stevie gets a staggaring 40%. Keep in mind, all of this is AFTER the promoters, lawyers, venues, managers, et al have been paid. Let's also keep in mind all the band members live in extremely expensive areas (LA and Hawaii), and half of the band have very young children to tend. Since Stevie has no children and has a profitable solo career, she likely is good to go financially... but what about Mick and John? Mick has battled money problems all his life. He was dealing with bankruptcy as late as the '90s... I'd highly doubt he's got a huge nest egg these days. I'd suspect the only reason the band toured last year was to supplement incomes since the world is in recession, and I'm betting the band's stock & 401k portfolios were taking some serious hits.

HejiraNYC 10-15-2010 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 915113)
Stevie has done countless corporate/private events like this. So it seems like a natural progression for Fleetwood Mac to do such a thing.

Regarding them "not needing the money"... I wouldn't be so sure. Remember artists get paid a very, very tiny portion of their album sales (we're talking just pennies per each album sold). I'd have to imagine for someone like John McVie, his portion of that is almost negligible since he's neither a singer, songwriter, nor a manager. Most bands make true money in touring. But knowing the breakdown of the band's salaries, John and Mick reportedly get 15% each of the profits, while Lindsey gets 30% and Stevie gets a staggaring 40%. Keep in mind, all of this is AFTER the promoters, lawyers, venues, managers, et al have been paid. Let's also keep in mind all the band members live in extremely expensive areas (LA and Hawaii), and half of the band have very young children to tend. Since Stevie has no children and has a profitable solo career, she likely is good to go financially... but what about Mick and John? Mick has battled money problems all his life. He was dealing with bankruptcy as late as the '90s... I'd highly doubt he's got a huge nest egg these days. I'd suspect the only reason the band toured last year was to supplement incomes since the world is in recession, and I'm betting the band's stock & 401k portfolios were taking some serious hits.

I highly doubt Mick and John are exactly bumming for extra change on Sunset. They each made at least $5 million on tour last year. And even though their share of album royalties is not as high as Stevie/Lindsey/Chris, they still get a little something- probably enough to make ends meet every month. After all, "Fleetwood Mac" is credited as the producer for the hit albums that matter, so Mick and John certainly participate in those royalties. And it's conceivable that John has been a very modest mouse and has been prudent about saving and investing. I think they are doing this gig (wherever it may be held) simply because the money was too good to pass up. I wouldn't be surprised if they are pulling in as much money for this one show as they would pull in for a string of tour dates.

soul_drifter333 10-15-2010 01:27 PM

Either way...they are making a hell of a lot more money than I do or ever will.

louielouie2000 10-15-2010 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 915124)
I highly doubt Mick and John are exactly bumming for extra change on Sunset. They each made at least $5 million on tour last year. And even though their share of album royalties is not as high as Stevie/Lindsey/Chris, they still get a little something- probably enough to make ends meet every month. After all, "Fleetwood Mac" is credited as the producer for the hit albums that matter, so Mick and John certainly participate in those royalties. And it's conceivable that John has been a very modest mouse and has been prudent about saving and investing. I think they are doing this gig (wherever it may be held) simply because the money was too good to pass up. I wouldn't be surprised if they are pulling in as much money for this one show as they would pull in for a string of tour dates.

I'm not saying I think they're broke, I just know with Mick and Lindsey having young children, and John having one in college that they need to be fiscally responsible and not turn down easy money. I think the band also realizes the clock is ticking on how many years left of performing they have, too... and they know they need to rake in the dough while they have the chance. I have a feeling all of the wives of the Men Of Mac keep their husbands keenly aware of all of this.

The way John joked on the Say You Will documentary about splitting mixing costs and it being too expensive, I bet you're right that he has lived on the modest side. He's always seemed the most sane and grounded of the entire lot. I still have to wonder about Mick, though. He's notorious for his extravagant spending, and was constantly changing into his custom made shoes and shirts in the Say You Will documentary. I know I keep citing that documentary, but I view it to be a fairly honest barometer on how the band members conduct themselves this day and age.

HejiraNYC 10-15-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 915147)
I'm not saying I think they're broke, I just know with Mick and Lindsey having young children, and John having one in college that they need to be fiscally responsible and not turn down easy money. I think the band also realizes the clock is ticking on how many years left of performing they have, too... and they know they need to rake in the dough while they have the chance. I have a feeling all of the wives of the Men Of Mac keep their husbands keenly aware of all of this.

The way John joked on the Say You Will documentary about splitting mixing costs and it being too expensive, I bet you're right that he has lived on the modest side. He's always seemed the most sane and grounded of the entire lot. I still have to wonder about Mick, though. He's notorious for his extravagant spending, and was constantly changing into his custom made shoes and shirts in the Say You Will documentary. I know that documentary, but I view it to be a fairly honest barometer on how the band members conduct themselves this day and age.

I suspect that if Mick had his druthers, Fleetwood Mac would tour non-stop forever... just like Bob Dylan. Just for the sake of touring and playing and hanging out with his best mates. Same with John. So I suspect that it didn't take much arm-twisting to get them on board. Sure the money must have helped too, but I just can't imagine Mick saying "no" to anything involving Fleetwood Mac. Hopefully they will get together and rediscover their chemistry. Stevie will then play them some of the rough mixes of her new album and then a bowled-over Mick will take her aside and ask her to offer a few of those songs for the next Fleetwood Mac album. Lindsey will respond by playing some demos he's been working on and... voila... a new Fleetwood Mac album is born. Ha!

BTW, I am sure Mick needs to get everything custom made simply because of his unusual proportions. I do too! I'd love to be able to shop for shirts off the rack, but they look absolutely ridamndiculous on me.

Ghost_Tracker 10-15-2010 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by StephenC (Post 915106)
I dont quite see why they would be doing this? They dont need the money and it's not for the "art". I dont remember them ever doing something like this before.

I've seen some of these corporate event performances and 75% of the audience dont care who is on stage. The atmosphere is not driven by the music... it's usually by wine!

Could this performance be for a friend?


"Need" isn't "want."

In my opinion, it's human nature for people who have experienced "tough times," either in their family or their own life, to want to keep making LOTS of money even after becoming wealthy. For one thing, they want to achieve "generational wealth" for their kids/nieces etc. i.m.o. it's human nature to want to keep the ka-ching comin' in for as long as possible. Don't forget, the gov. is talking about raising the inheritance tax on the very rich to 55% - that means, for example, that if Stevie's net worth is, say, 100 million dollars, Jessie would end up with only 45 million - that more than likely would be "pissed away" within a generation. The more they take in, the less likely that is to happen - and Jessie (for example) would be financially secure for life - even if she lives to be 110 - a possibility which some medical experts are beginning to consider possible for her generation.

Besides, I bet they just plain want to stay in practice. This way, they "maintain group loyalty," "keep tight," etc. And hey, it's FUN - I bet it's STILL fun for them. And they get to see their friends, who I would imagine are both the band members themselves and people "in their circle," at this point - personal assistants, etc. I bet they have their own little group of friends and just like anyone else, they love spending time with them. If someone's gonna pay them big buckage at the same time, then hey, who could resist THAT!? :)

louielouie2000 10-15-2010 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 915150)
I suspect that if Mick had his druthers, Fleetwood Mac would tour non-stop forever... just like Bob Dylan. Just for the sake of touring and playing and hanging out with his best mates. Same with John. So I suspect that it didn't take much arm-twisting to get them on board. Sure the money must have helped too, but I just can't imagine Mick saying "no" to anything involving Fleetwood Mac. Hopefully they will get together and rediscover their chemistry. Stevie will then play them some of the rough mixes of her new album and then a bowled-over Mick will take her aside and ask her to offer a few of those songs for the next Fleetwood Mac album. Lindsey will respond by playing some demos he's been working on and... voila... a new Fleetwood Mac album is born. Ha!

That'd really be wonderful if Stevie shared her new album with the band, and it sparked serious talks of a new Mac record!! :blob2: Who knows, it's certainly possible... Stevie seems to be on a high right now with her new music. I know she was discouraged for several years following SYW regarding recording new material. I still think her dissatisfaction with SYW will drive her to record at least one more Mac album. I doubt she'll want that the be the Mac's final legacy.

I would have to think Lindsey's been noodling around with new material, too... but he's been very quiet about recording since Gift Of Screws. Yes, he said all during the Unleashed tour that the Mac doesn't have a new album... yet. But we haven't really heard first hand from him if he's been recording any new music for himself or otherwise.

And no doubt you're right about Mick and John. Of any of the Rumours kids, those guys simply just love playing and being in a band. I think the rest is just details for them.

APerfectLie 10-16-2010 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 915150)
I suspect that if Mick had his druthers, Fleetwood Mac would tour non-stop forever... just like Bob Dylan. Just for the sake of touring and playing and hanging out with his best mates. Same with John. So I suspect that it didn't take much arm-twisting to get them on board. Sure the money must have helped too, but I just can't imagine Mick saying "no" to anything involving Fleetwood Mac. Hopefully they will get together and rediscover their chemistry. Stevie will then play them some of the rough mixes of her new album and then a bowled-over Mick will take her aside and ask her to offer a few of those songs for the next Fleetwood Mac album. Lindsey will respond by playing some demos he's been working on and... voila... a new Fleetwood Mac album is born. Ha!

BTW, I am sure Mick needs to get everything custom made simply because of his unusual proportions. I do too! I'd love to be able to shop for shirts off the rack, but they look absolutely ridamndiculous on me.

No thanks. I'd kill for a new Mac album, but I'd also kill for a new Stevie one. It is a shock that she is working on one to begin with and I would rather it not get thwarted so she can give a few of those songs to Fleetwood Mac. Nor would I want her to release an album with 9 or 10 songs and slide the other 5 over to Fleetwood Mac. I say convince her to come back and do an album with them after she's done with her solo stuff :] I'm tired of Fleetwood Mac albums= left over solo songs.

Also, I just wonder what the hell it could be that is so important that they are taking an entire week to rehearse for. Didn't Stevie only rehearse for a week for six shows? And they are spending an entire week in rehearsal for one show? Srsly, wtf. They've have 35 years of godddamn rehearsal. Alas, it is Fleetwood Mac, ergo it shouldn't make logical sense.

kathy1 10-16-2010 04:12 PM

i think that is great news. i read about that already but i didn't know if it was true or not.

SaidSomething 10-16-2010 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 915113)
Stevie has done countless corporate/private events like this. So it seems like a natural progression for Fleetwood Mac to do such a thing.

Regarding them "not needing the money"... I wouldn't be so sure. Remember artists get paid a very, very tiny portion of their album sales (we're talking just pennies per each album sold). I'd have to imagine for someone like John McVie, his portion of that is almost negligible since he's neither a singer, songwriter, nor a manager. Most bands make true money in touring. But knowing the breakdown of the band's salaries, John and Mick reportedly get 15% each of the profits, while Lindsey gets 30% and Stevie gets a staggaring 40%. Keep in mind, all of this is AFTER the promoters, lawyers, venues, managers, et al have been paid. Let's also keep in mind all the band members live in extremely expensive areas (LA and Hawaii), and half of the band have very young children to tend. Since Stevie has no children and has a profitable solo career, she likely is good to go financially... but what about Mick and John? Mick has battled money problems all his life. He was dealing with bankruptcy as late as the '90s... I'd highly doubt he's got a huge nest egg these days. I'd suspect the only reason the band toured last year was to supplement incomes since the world is in recession, and I'm betting the band's stock & 401k portfolios were taking some serious hits.


Louie you're right about that. I think you're probably too young to remember Martha Davis or The Motels...I know you hear their songs in the department stores, radio...etc...anyway, in the 90s I was going with Martha's best friend and we all hung out at her place in Encino a few times...she told me what happens with songs, artist rights, costs...etc...and how pretty much, yeah, you do make pennies per play, sale etc...and when all expenses paid to the machine owners...you're practically in debt. The money is really in the ownership of the song...complete copyright ownerships. I think Stevie even said she made big money on her songs being done by other artists. That's when the machine for the remake artist has to pay it's due....and it becomes lucrative.

Also Mick and John and their investments (Mick Fleetwoods Costco Boxed Wine comes to mind) haven't been too lucrative...or what has been reported.


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