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wayner 07-27-2010 03:54 PM

Set List Aug 4
 
OK.... we all now know there is new material on the horizon, and we are pretty sure we will be tasting it soon... who wants to try and predict the complete Aug 4 set list ? make it sort of a contest to see who gets closest to predicting what Stevie gives us

any takers ??

I will be there to 'keep score' but probably will not have time to post till late Aug 5, have an early flight outta LAX that day

To make things interesting i will buy an extra 'Stevie Shirt' and will send to whomever is closest !

RockAlot 07-27-2010 04:08 PM

This could get intresting, however I'm not even going to take a wack at this one!! I too will be there and hoping there is something new or just different from the setlist weve come accustom too!!

HejiraNYC 07-27-2010 04:09 PM

I'll bite!

Stand Back
Enchanted
Dreams
If Anyone Falls
Rhiannon
Sorcerer
Gold Dust Woman
(new song)
Landslide
How Still My Love
Fall from Grace
Edge of Seventeen
Rock and Roll
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You

SapphireSister 07-27-2010 04:15 PM

I hope you'll be keeping track of the set list because I don't intend to be writing anything down during the show because I will be so entranced in Stevie's performance! And I wouldn't count on me to remember correctly.

petep9000 07-27-2010 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 902484)
I'll bite!

Stand Back
Enchanted
Dreams
If Anyone Falls
Rhiannon
Sorcerer
Gold Dust Woman
(new song)
Landslide
How Still My Love
Fall from Grace
Edge of Seventeen
Rock and Roll
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You

LOL!!:lol:

RockAlot 07-27-2010 05:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SapphireSister (Post 902486)
I hope you'll be keeping track of the set list because I don't intend to be writing anything down during the show because I will be so entranced in Stevie's performance! And I wouldn't count on me to remember correctly.

Same here, I never commit to texing or any of that as I'm useally really into the show and dont want to miss a thing!

iamnotafraid 07-27-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RockAlot (Post 902506)
I never commit to texing or any of that as I'm useally really into the show and dont want to miss a thing!

Old school.
Cool.

chiliD 07-27-2010 06:04 PM

I mean, how far off can ANY of us be??

Enchanted
Outside The Rain/Dreams
If Anyone Falls
Circle Game
Rhiannon
(new song)
Sorcerer
Gold Dust Woman
Landslide
How Still My Love
(new song)
Stand Back
Fall from Grace
Edge of Seventeen


(encore #1) Rock and Roll
(encore # 2) Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You

*********************

What I would put a gun to her head & MAKE her do? (HEY! Not THAT, get your mind out of the smut pen; but if she offered on her own accord...)

Dreams (get it the f*** outta the way off the bat)
Enchanted
I Can't Wait
Rooms On Fire
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
(new song)
(new song)
(new song)
Thrown Down
Planets Of The Universe
No Spoken Word
Touched By An Angel
Landslide
(new song)
Love Is Dangerous
(Rick Vito's solo arrangement)
Stand Back
Edge Of Seventeen


(encore #1) Affairs Of The Heart
(encore #2) (new song)
(encore #3) Crying In The Night

nailatixela 07-27-2010 07:09 PM

Does anybody who is going to opening night have an arrangement with a ledgie who is not going to the show? You can just send a text message of the song title and then they can post it here. :wavey: Somebody did this for Unleashed and it was great refreshing the page to see what song would be next all night.

Christopher 07-27-2010 08:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 902516)
What I would put a gun to her head & MAKE her do? (HEY! Not THAT, get your mind out of the smut pen; but if she offered on her own accord...)

Dreams (get it the f*** outta the way off the bat)
Enchanted
I Can't Wait
Rooms On Fire
Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind
(new song)
(new song)
(new song)
Thrown Down
Planets Of The Universe
No Spoken Word
Touched By An Angel
Landslide
(new song)
Love Is Dangerous (Rick Vito's solo arrangement)
Stand Back
Edge Of Seventeen

(encore #1) Affairs Of The Heart
(encore #2) (new song)
(encore #3) Crying In The Night

Now your talking, except I would selfishly swap out.....Hmmmm, Enchanted with Long Way To Go or Bella Donna or Trouble in Shangri~la - S#$T this is hard! or too easy.

Musicman408 07-27-2010 08:02 PM

1. Stand Back
2. Dreams
3. If Anyone Falls
4. Rhiannon
5. Enchanted
6. Sorcerer
7. Gold Dust Woman
8. I Need To Know
9. Landslide

Band Intros
10. How Still My Love
11. Edge Of Seventeen

Encores
12. Rock And Roll
13. Beauty And Beast

Nikolaj 07-27-2010 08:24 PM

1. Wild Heart
"Welcome to The Very Short Italian Summer Tour, Atlantic City!"- Stevie
"Who's the very short Italian?"-- Waddy
"Stevie, we're in Santa Barbara"-- Sharon
"Shut Up, Sharon. You always have to be so accurate"-- Stevie

2. Castaway
3. Talk To Me
4. Gold Dust Woman
5. New Song
6. New Song
7. Stand Back
8. Outside The Rain- 9. Dreams
10. Sable On Blonde
11. New Song
12. Edge of Seventeen
//
Encores
13. Love Is Like An Itching In My Heart
14. Rhiannon.
15. Landslide.

BlueDenimLamp 07-27-2010 09:24 PM

I don't have a set list but I think Stevie will do quite a few new songs...She seems very excited like she was prior to BD...Also the way she talks about Dave sounds like a return to the Buckingham-Nicks days...Hope she does the same set all 5 shows as I will see her at Verona...

daniellaaarisen 07-27-2010 09:45 PM

I think we're going to get the same set list as usual but with some Soundstage additions and maybe a new song or two.

SandyMac 07-27-2010 11:36 PM

Can Rock and Roll still be done though? Didn't Jana sing the really high part?

DavidMn 07-28-2010 04:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wayner (Post 902479)
OK.... we all now know there is new material on the horizon, and we are pretty sure we will be tasting it soon... who wants to try and predict the complete Aug 4 set list ? make it sort of a contest to see who gets closest to predicting what Stevie gives us

any takers ??

I will be there to 'keep score' but probably will not have time to post till late Aug 5, have an early flight outta LAX that day

To make things interesting i will buy an extra 'Stevie Shirt' and will send to whomever is closest !

Hey Wayne have a great time, I wont be there but I remember you and youre a really nice guy and I enjoyed talking to you in London last fall!:cool:

skuncles 07-28-2010 08:31 AM

We all want something new, but my fear is that these shows are just money making gigs to fund the new album. Should that be the case, the show will be a rehash of the "Crystal Visions" tour (shirts and all). Stevie REALLY needs someone else to handle these things.
I really want to be wrong and have these shows be unique and unlike anything else she's done with new and rare songs, but history shows that will not be the case. It's just aggravating when you see other artists just doing whatever, I just saw Prince's recent set lists from his shows in Europe the past two weeks, the set list is being switched up each night, songs and order. At one show he OPENED with "Purple Rain"!!! The next night the song was later in the set.
I still say it's not Stevie's fault for the stagnant set lists, I think it's the people around her (they are the most cruel).

Tango 07-28-2010 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 902595)
We all want something new . . .


I still say it's not Stevie's fault for the stagnant set lists, I think it's the people around her (they are the most cruel).

I don't know that you are right--I think a large part of the problem is Stevie, herself. Another part is that Stevie doesn't have a full time regular band. She's got hired guns. They really don't know her whole catalog of music--the solo stuff or FM stuff. I would guess you can't spend a lot of money on that kind of thing. Any Stevie tour requires some hired band members to learn an entire set list. Stevie's definitely hung up on the hits, believing most of the audience is as well.

Unlike Prince, or Lindsey, Stevie is not really a musician.* She's a singer/songwriter/entertainer. She can't all the sudden break into, for instance, "Sister Honey" in the middle of a tour as she's not the one playing a featured instrument. Prince or Lindsey can pull a song out of nowhere into the setlist, or respond to a fan's shout out request.


http://blaine.org/jules/triangle.jpg
*OK, she is a musician. Stevie has been seen playing the tamborine, "the triangle," and various percussion piece. ;)


She could shuffle THE set list from night to night, but essentially that is what she mostly does year to year anyhow.

I am hoping we get something NEW off the new album. And I hope anyone attending the first show cheers wildly so it's not dropped by the second, third shows.

wayner 07-28-2010 10:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidMn (Post 902579)
Hey Wayne have a great time, I wont be there but I remember you and youre a really nice guy and I enjoyed talking to you in London last fall!:cool:

HI Dave

thanks, we are quite eager to see this one,combining a few days in CA with a few in Vegas . Are u gonna make any of the east coast shows ?

Nikolaj 07-28-2010 10:40 AM

^^
Doing these five shows to "fund the new album"? That's so laughable!
It's not like Stevie Nicks is a destitute, unknown nobody who has to earn money before she can afford to record or release a new album. She doesn't need to do concerts; all five of them, in this case, to spend time in a recording studio, find a producer, or to have money to run off copies of the cd booklet at her local Kinkos. Sheesh.
We all know that she has millions of dollars, many times over. Last time anyone heard, she was no 'Skid Row Stevie!'
She's doing the concerts because her agent and or manager put together a good deal; it's short and easy to fit into her schedule, she wants to donate proceeds from the first show to an ill child, and maybe, just maybe, she's excited to debut one or some of the new songs.
How a wealthy woman doing a handful of concerts ("making gigs??") has anything to do with 'funding an album' is a stretch beyond any reasonable imagination.
As for the concert swag; tshirts or what have you, you're right, she could have much better merchandise at the shows but it isn't a priority to her, it seems. But that has nothing to do with what she sings in her set; past, present or future, or anything to do with the forthcoming cd.

wheart 07-28-2010 12:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 902484)
I'll bite!

Stand Back
Enchanted
Dreams
If Anyone Falls
Rhiannon
Sorcerer
Gold Dust Woman
(new song)
Landslide
How Still My Love
Fall from Grace
Edge of Seventeen
Rock and Roll
Has Anyone Ever Written Anything for You

in all honestly, this is probably very, very close to what we'll be getting. I don't think she'll do any new songs but she'll probably switch out one "staple" for another like replacing Fall From Grace with Whole Lotta Trouble. The rest of the show is gonna be status quo.

skuncles 07-28-2010 12:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nikolaj (Post 902616)
^^
Doing these five shows to "fund the new album"? That's so laughable!
It's not like Stevie Nicks is a destitute, unknown nobody who has to earn money before she can afford to record or release a new album. She doesn't need to do concerts; all five of them, in this case, to spend time in a recording studio, find a producer, or to have money to run off copies of the cd booklet at her local Kinkos. Sheesh.
We all know that she has millions of dollars, many times over. Last time anyone heard, she was no 'Skid Row Stevie!'
She's doing the concerts because her agent and or manager put together a good deal; it's short and easy to fit into her schedule, she wants to donate proceeds from the first show to an ill child, and maybe, just maybe, she's excited to debut one or some of the new songs.
How a wealthy woman doing a handful of concerts ("making gigs??") has anything to do with 'funding an album' is a stretch beyond any reasonable imagination.
As for the concert swag; tshirts or what have you, you're right, she could have much better merchandise at the shows but it isn't a priority to her, it seems. But that has nothing to do with what she sings in her set; past, present or future, or anything to do with the forthcoming cd.

It's not laughable by any stretch of the imagination! Many artists book shows simply to bring in the extra $$. Think about it Stevie has no reason to do these shows, she's not promoting anything. True she's donating her salary from the first show and that's fantastic, but this isn't a charity tour. When these shows were booked she was working on an album with no plans to do anything. No one said she's on skid row either. But this kind of thing happens ALL THE TIME. And in most cases when only a handful of shows are being done and there's nothing to promote, it's being done simply because there's money to be made. Also in most of these cases it has nothing to do with the artist, but rather the manager. You do a handful of high paying gigs (usually at small casino venues which pay more than arenas) and you make a quick million or so. That's how that music business works, and to think otherwise IS laughable! You don't really think Stevie's manager said "We have some shows you could do, show the fans how much you love them, only do five shows though and only in basically two areas of the country because we know you love those fans the most."? No, it was more like we can get these high paying gigs, are you in?
Finally where do you think artists like Stevie ("classic rock" acts) make their money these days? Sure isn't from album sales!!!!!!!! It's from doing concerts! If you aren't selling albums, you aren't making money from royalties, but you can do some high paying shows and you're good until the next thing comes along. Where do you suppose Stevie's millions came from? She hasn't had a hit album in almost 1o years, she hasn't had a hit single in over 20 years. And why not do a few shows to make an album. She's not Lady Gaga where the record label is giving her an advance to make the album knowing they'll make it back in sales. Stevie is probably paying for a lot of this herself. The shows will only help!

AnthonyMI 07-28-2010 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 902636)
she hasn't had a hit single in over 20 years.


Depends on what you mean by "Hit". I think pretty much everything I note below has charted HIGHER than anything off of Mirror Mirror.

Planets of the Universe was hit, as was the Dreams redo so was the Tracy Morgan version of Stand Back. Then there was the Silver Springs '97 and Landslide singles from the Dance. Then there was the "Remix" version of the Classic Landslide in early 1998. Say You Will, Everyday, Sorcerer, Reconsider Me and Thrown Down, Crash all got considerable air play when they first came out. I STILL hear Reconsider Me, Silver Springs, and Say You Will on Adult Contemporaneity channels pretty regularly.

So that puts "Modern" Stevie "hits" in 1997, 98, 2001-2, 2003, 2005, 2007 and 2009.

When you look at the songs, their charting, airplay and such... Stevie has done more than OK the last 10-13 years.

SapphireSister 07-28-2010 07:08 PM

Just posted by Al Ortiz on facebook!!
Al Ortiz Sittin here goin over Stevie Nicks tunes for the upcoming August tour. Mostly live stuff of the band's passed shows and new songs too. Wow Pretty killin band. Can't wait to see everyone and play some great music. Thank you Stevie.
NEW SONGS!!!!!!!!!!!

Travis 07-28-2010 08:19 PM

Once again, I feel this is a realistic set let that Stevie could do if she just stepped it up every so slightly. She can do this. Just imagine …

House Lights dim …
Crowd screams …
Excitement in the air …


"Do-do-do, da do-do-do-do-do - snap - snap - snap - snap
Do-do-do, da do-do-do-do-do - snap - snap - snap - snap"


(People look at each other - “omg, she’s doing “Trouble …” YAY!!! YES, something “new”

Whole Lotta Trouble - (joyous and relieved applause)

Blue Denim - fans: “omg, unbelievable, BLUE DENIM? Who got the word to Stevie?” Fans rejoice …

Talk To Me - fans: “ah, something familiar but not too routine, this is good”

Stevie: “Thank you and welcome … its so great to see everybody … (applause - applause) … well, tonight’s show is a little bit different for me … I decided it was time to shake things up just a bit so … with that said, let's rock….”

Angel - fans: “O M F G - no way …. YES YES ….. Friends and fans turn to each other “can you believe this?” YAY!

Sorcerer - fans: “OK OK, reality check - but that’s ok … everything is good.”

(New upbeat song)

Acoustic set:
It’s Only Love
Circle Dance
Leather & Lace


~ transition out of acoustic set ~

Gypsy

Lights dim again as the stage is set up with special guest DJ’s Deep Dish. This will be the club section of the set. (Straights do not fear - just dance and have fun)

CLUB STEVIE
Gold Dust Woman (new arrangement)
Dreams
Planets Of The Universe

… and as the crowd is worked up into a frenzy
Stand Back

How Still My Love
~
Edge Of Seventeen …..

Encores:
Fall From Grace (this song has never worked well in any of her sets in my opinion - it needs to come right after something exciting … and not the tired and too short "I Need To Know")

And the final encore, the only place this song belongs is …

Rhiannon (with piano intro similar to how it was back on the BD thru the RAL tours) then full band version.

Travis 07-28-2010 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SapphireSister (Post 902702)
Just posted by Al Ortiz on facebook!!
Al Ortiz Sittin here goin over Stevie Nicks tunes for the upcoming August tour. Mostly live stuff of the band's passed shows and new songs too. Wow Pretty killin band. Can't wait to see everyone and play some great music. Thank you Stevie.
NEW SONGS!!!!!!!!!!!

What's his FB URL please?

Troddew 07-28-2010 08:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 902595)
We all want something new, but my fear is that these shows are just money making gigs to fund the new album. Should that be the case, the show will be a rehash of the "Crystal Visions" tour (shirts and all). Stevie REALLY needs someone else to handle these things.
I really want to be wrong and have these shows be unique and unlike anything else she's done with new and rare songs, but history shows that will not be the case. It's just aggravating when you see other artists just doing whatever, I just saw Prince's recent set lists from his shows in Europe the past two weeks, the set list is being switched up each night, songs and order. At one show he OPENED with "Purple Rain"!!! The next night the song was later in the set.
I still say it's not Stevie's fault for the stagnant set lists, I think it's the people around her (they are the most cruel).

When I worked for a small venue here in upstate ny, I tried to convince our CEO to book her. I told him that I would work free for a year if he could. He came back to me about 6 hours later and said Sorry Drew but you would have to work for free for 15 years. Apparently Ms. Nicks still garners 350,000 us per gig.

So this could quite easily be a Stevie Album fundraiser.

As for the set list I think its going to be the same ole same ole unless she drops a new cover in there. She toured before the release of Timespace and neither mentioned the project or did a new song from it.

Nikolaj 07-28-2010 09:55 PM

Actually, Skuncles, I agree with what you wrote in your reply. Your points were accurate and informed, mostly by stating obvious and well known facts, to backpedal and deflect attention from your original, first message I replied to. I didn't agree or see your logic of how she had to 'fund the new album'. It doesn't matter; of course, whether I agree with everything you, or anyone, may write. It's good to have differing perspectives.
It would be a dull forum if everyone always saw things the same way. Yet, your (failed) attempt to profoundly bitch-slap me for disagreeing with you, by trying to educate me of "how the music business works" was revealing, to say the least.
Of course, you are completely correct that live performances are where the big money is and has been for a very long time for SN, and not her recording career. Common knowledge, and I'd never stated otherwise. It's why she's been on tour since 1997 with less than 4 years when she didn't perform at all.
Sniping aside, I agree with you more than not! And you likely know that she has had plenty of $ from the past 13 years of touring not to need to do these fews shows to pay for the new album.
So, nice to hear from ya, live and let live, all the best. I need to go back and copy and paste it in all it's glory:
*
Skuncles wrote: His comments are in regular type, mine are italicized in parenthesis.
It's called standing up for myself, by the way, and I'm entitled. I hope some of you may fall down laughing, I tried to see the humor in it. How funny I had to answer such drivel.
*
It's not laughable by any stretch of the imagination! Many artists book shows simply to bring in the extra $$. Think about it Stevie has no reason to do these shows, she's not promoting anything. True she's donating her salary from the first show and that's fantastic, but this isn't a charity tour.
[Yes, that is true; and nobody said it was a charity tour)
When these shows were booked she was working on an album with no plans to do anything. No one said she's on skid row either.
(My 'Skid Row Stevie' comment was ummm, a joke!)
But this kind of thing happens ALL THE TIME. And in most cases when only a handful of shows are being done and there's nothing to promote, it's being done simply because there's money to be made.
(Duh! Who said it doesn't happen all the time, singers work for money, true.)
Also in most of these cases it has nothing to do with the artist, but rather the manager.
(Or the mother. That Barbara Nicks won't let Stevie rest. Never has and never will!)
You do a handful of high paying gigs usually at small casino venues which pay more than arenas and you make a quick million or so. That's how that music business works, and to think otherwise IS laughable!
(Yes, I'm laughable. Any informed Ledgie, courtesy of the brilliant L, knows that SN's price is $200,000 per show. Maybe, the casinos paid her more, in the past. Now it seems, they are about the only ones who can afford to pay her guarantee!)
(Ye Scunkles, who knows how "that music business works." I can tell you are a charter member of the inner circle by the 'making gigs' lingo you throw around with such aplomb.)
You don't really think Stevie's manager said "We have some shows you could do, show the fans how much you love them, only do five shows though and only in basically two areas of the country because we know you love those fans the most."?
(No, I don't really think that, correct. You know so much!)
No, it was more like we can get these high paying gigs, are you in?
(How exciting for you to have been there!)
Finally where do you think artists like Stevie ("classic rock" acts) make their money these days? Sure isn't from album sales!!!!!!!!
(Got enough exclamation points there, bud? Are you happy, angry, excited, or just redundant? I never said her 'money'- of which you are so concerned- came more from cds than from touring)
It's from doing concerts!
(Honest? Really! Gosh!)
If you aren't selling albums, you aren't making money from royalties, but you can do some high paying shows and you're good until the next thing comes along. Where do you suppose Stevie's millions came from?
(Touring and publishing, mainly, and not always in that order, and there's the boorish money thing again you have such a h*rd-on about!)
She hasn't had a hit album in almost 1o years, she hasn't had a hit single in over 20 years
(Ooh, there's that insider knowledge, yet again! Still, one estimate had her earn $8 million from the Dixie Chicks cover of 'Landslide'- thought you'd need to know!).
And why not do a few shows to make an album.
(Um, because, the album is well underway and should she have needed $ for it, she's had tour revenue since '97 and didn't need these five dates to pay for a thing!)
She's not Lady Gaga
(Oh, now you've cut me to the bone and set me right, boy, I thought she WAS Lady Gaga! Oh no! No wonder she looked so different all of a sudden! Oh wait, she's "not" Lady Gaga, thanks for letting me know!)
where the record label is giving her an advance to make the album knowing they'll make it back in sales.
(Maybe there's an advance, maybe not. Maybe there's a budget where all costs are paid for by the Producer for reimbursement by the label. Maybe the agents and managers cover some expenses for a larger piece of it. Who cares!)
Stevie is probably paying for a lot of this herself.
(Why are you so focused on someone else's damned money?!)
The shows will only help.
(Yes, money helps pay for things. Never thought of that. What Stevie pays for or doesn't pay for is none of my business, but it's a free country, go ahead and concern yourself with somebody else's money and think these 5 shows will allow her to release her new cd. You simply are too brilliant of a mind to ever be incorrect. How dare I suggest otherwise?)

skuncles 07-28-2010 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AnthonyMI (Post 902667)
Depends on what you mean by "Hit". I think pretty much everything I note below has charted HIGHER than anything off of Mirror Mirror.

Planets of the Universe was hit, as was the Dreams redo so was the Tracy Morgan version of Stand Back. Then there was the Silver Springs '97 and Landslide singles from the Dance. Then there was the "Remix" version of the Classic Landslide in early 1998. Say You Will, Everyday, Sorcerer, Reconsider Me and Thrown Down, Crash all got considerable air play when they first came out. I STILL hear Reconsider Me, Silver Springs, and Say You Will on Adult Contemporaneity channels pretty regularly.

So that puts "Modern" Stevie "hits" in 1997, 98, 2001-2, 2003, 2005, 2007 and 2009.

When you look at the songs, their charting, airplay and such... Stevie has done more than OK the last 10-13 years.

By "Mirror Mirror" do you mean "Rock A Little"? The last hit I was talking about was "Rooms On Fire" #16. The only other singles to have charted since then are: "Sometimes It's A Bitch" #56, "Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind" #17 AC, "Everyday" #17 AC, "Sorcerer" #21, "Planets Of The Universe" #1 dance, "Stand Back" #2 dance. Nothing else charted. I'm not talking Fleetwood Mac singles. Finally just because you hear the song on the radio doesn't mean it was a hit OR a single. Zeppelin's "Stairway To Heaven" is played almost daily on the radio but was never a single or a "hit". "The Chain", "Gold Dust Woman", and others were also never singles or "hits" but still get played heavily on the radio.

MacMan 07-28-2010 11:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 902740)
By "Mirror Mirror" do you mean "Rock A Little"? The last hit I was talking about was "Rooms On Fire" #16. The only other singles to have charted since then are: "Sometimes It's A Bitch" #56, "Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind" #17 AC, "Everyday" #17 AC, "Sorcerer" #21, "Planets Of The Universe" #1 dance, "Stand Back" #2 dance. Nothing else charted. I'm not talking Fleetwood Mac singles. Finally just because you hear the song on the radio doesn't mean it was a hit OR a single. Zeppelin's "Stairway To Heaven" is played almost daily on the radio but was never a single or a "hit". "The Chain", "Gold Dust Woman", and others were also never singles or "hits" but still get played heavily on the radio.

Maybe Love.... Hit #57 (I think) on the Hot 100 as well.

HejiraNYC 07-29-2010 02:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 902740)
By "Mirror Mirror" do you mean "Rock A Little"? The last hit I was talking about was "Rooms On Fire" #16. The only other singles to have charted since then are: "Sometimes It's A Bitch" #56, "Maybe Love Will Change Your Mind" #17 AC, "Everyday" #17 AC, "Sorcerer" #21, "Planets Of The Universe" #1 dance, "Stand Back" #2 dance. Nothing else charted. I'm not talking Fleetwood Mac singles. Finally just because you hear the song on the radio doesn't mean it was a hit OR a single. Zeppelin's "Stairway To Heaven" is played almost daily on the radio but was never a single or a "hit". "The Chain", "Gold Dust Woman", and others were also never singles or "hits" but still get played heavily on the radio.

Let the record reflect that "Maybe Love," "Paper Doll," "Peacekeeper" and "Landslide (remixes)" all charted on the Billboard Hot 100 singles within the past 20 years. Granted, none were huge hits, but at least they were considered "Hot" for a fleeting moment or two. :shrug:

I also agree that it's silly to believe that Mama is hittin' the circuit to fund her album. She's probably going about it the normal way- she signed to a label (whatever that label may be) and the label cut her an advance plus recording fees (which she would have to pay back from the proceeds). And on the off-chance that she didn't get an advance, she has plenty of money; she doesn't have to work a single day again in her life if she wanted. My suspicion is that she is doing a handful of dates for a number of reasons. For one thing, she wants to keep up her chops. Secondly, she has an army of people on payroll, and these people (who probably get paid gigs sporadically) are probably looking to make some bank- musicians, wardrobe assistants, managers, stylists, etc. And who knows what else these shows may portend (in terms of filmed footage, etc.). After not doing anything solo for a couple of years, she stands a good chance of losing her people, so she needs to get out there with her ribbons and bows and start reconnecting.

DavidMn 07-29-2010 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by wayner (Post 902608)
HI Dave

thanks, we are quite eager to see this one,combining a few days in CA with a few in Vegas . Are u gonna make any of the east coast shows ?

No unfortunately, I'm not this time. I don't have a reliable car yet, and although I did take the Greyhound bus to many of the Mac shows last year, it took alot out of me, and I just cant do it again. But I will be there in spirit I can promise you that!

skuncles 07-29-2010 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Nikolaj (Post 902734)
Actually, Skuncles, I agree with what you wrote in your reply. Your points were accurate and informed, mostly by stating obvious and well known facts, to backpedal and deflect attention from your original, first message I replied to......[/I]

I stand corrected, my mistake, I didn't fully understand the audience I was playing to. I just want to say thanks for pointing this out to me, seriously.

AnthonyMI 07-29-2010 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 902766)
Let the record reflect that "Maybe Love," "Paper Doll," "Peacekeeper" and "Landslide (remixes)" all charted on the Billboard Hot 100 singles within the past 20 years. Granted, none were huge hits, but at least they were considered "Hot" for a fleeting moment or two. :shrug:

I also agree that it's silly to believe that Mama is hittin' the circuit to fund her album. She's probably going about it the normal way- she signed to a label (whatever that label may be) and the label cut her an advance plus recording fees (which she would have to pay back from the proceeds). And on the off-chance that she didn't get an advance, she has plenty of money; she doesn't have to work a single day again in her life if she wanted. My suspicion is that she is doing a handful of dates for a number of reasons. For one thing, she wants to keep up her chops. Secondly, she has an army of people on payroll, and these people (who probably get paid gigs sporadically) are probably looking to make some bank- musicians, wardrobe assistants, managers, stylists, etc. And who knows what else these shows may portend (in terms of filmed footage, etc.). After not doing anything solo for a couple of years, she stands a good chance of losing her people, so she needs to get out there with her ribbons and bows and start reconnecting.



And lets put it this way, Nobody but NOBODY Stevie's age has had the HITS they had 20+ years ago. Why? Because 45RPM singles are DEAD. You either get played on the radio, or you simply DON'T. James Taylor or the Eagles are about the closest thing I can think of to someone Stevie's "age" that is considered "Adult Contemporary" or "Soft Rock" that when they have a new album come out songs off it get played on the radio. When was the last time Carly Simon got a new song played on the radio? Or Belinda Carlise? Heart? Hell, even Lindsey Buckingham?

You can actually see what I am talking about too if you pull up iTunes

Since the early to mid 90's or whenever the "Black Charts" were combined with the "Pop Charts" you really notice a decline in the music. Start in about 1990 and work your way to 2010. All the Soft Rock Adult Cont artists disappear and are replaced by Rap, Grunge, RandB and you see WAY more "Explicit" lyric songs. Lets face it, the people buying records in droves are retarded insolent little kids and white gangsters wannabes. Same thing with the iTunes "Charts". Those songs that are on top? Bought by kids with iPhones, iPads and iPods, not the 30+ year olds and even more so people that were 15-30ish in the 70's early 80's that make up Stevie's largest fan base.

SO i see the fact that Stevie gets AIRPLAY more so then charting singles is actually great. The charts are meaningless these days unless you are a 21 year old slut bag with extensions, implants and a penchant for getting your waxed cooter photographed by the paparazzi.

skuncles 07-29-2010 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyMI (Post 902809)
And lets put it this way, Nobody but NOBODY Stevie's age has had the HITS they had 20+ years ago. Why? Because 45RPM singles are DEAD. You either get played on the radio, or you simply DON'T. James Taylor or the Eagles are about the closest thing I can think of to someone Stevie's "age" that is considered "Adult Contemporary" or "Soft Rock" that when they have a new album come out songs off it get played on the radio. When was the last time Carly Simon got a new song played on the radio? Or Belinda Carlise? Heart? Hell, even Lindsey Buckingham?

Exactly my point. This is why John Mellencamp used his song in a commercial. He knew it wasn't going to get played anywhere else. It's not a slam to say Stevie hasn't had a hit, it's just the way it is.

AnthonyMI 07-29-2010 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 902814)
Exactly my point. This is why John Mellencamp used his song in a commercial. He knew it wasn't going to get played anywhere else. It's not a slam to say Stevie hasn't had a hit, it's just the way it is.



Stevie should TOTALLY do one of those Menopause or Osteoporosis (Boniva or the like) commercials!

skuncles 07-29-2010 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AnthonyMI (Post 902815)
Stevie should TOTALLY do one of those Menopause or Osteoporosis (Boniva or the like) commercials!

Yikes, I don't know that that's the road she'd want to take, I was thinking more like just using a song, but hey maybe combine the two?

Cue in music ...."time make you bolder, children get older and I'm getting older too..." Hi I'm Stevie Nicks and like my song says I am getting older, and as we get older we need to keep our bones in good health that's why I use Boniva, just one pill a month and I'm ready to Rock A Little.

michelej1 07-29-2010 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 902766)
And who knows what else these shows may portend (in terms of filmed footage, etc.).

Yes, I think it will lend helpful video to Dave's documentary.

Michele

cristochango 07-30-2010 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 902848)
Yikes, I don't know that that's the road she'd want to take, I was thinking more like just using a song, but hey maybe combine the two?

Cue in music ...."time make you bolder, children get older and I'm getting older too..." Hi I'm Stevie Nicks and like my song says I am getting older, and as we get older we need to keep our bones in good health that's why I use Boniva, just one pill a month and I'm ready to Rock A Little.

HAHAHAHAHAH this made my day.
I'm on my laptop in front of all my family and they asked me what was up, so I explained it to them. and they laughed too. hahaha. this is great

wayner 08-12-2010 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by wayner (Post 902479)
OK.... we all now know there is new material on the horizon, and we are pretty sure we will be tasting it soon... who wants to try and predict the complete Aug 4 set list ? make it sort of a contest to see who gets closest to predicting what Stevie gives us

any takers ??

I will be there to 'keep score' but probably will not have time to post till late Aug 5, have an early flight outta LAX that day

To make things interesting i will buy an extra 'Stevie Shirt' and will send to whomever is closest !

Finally made is back from CA ( via a pit stop in Vegas ) , took a few days to catch up, but now looked over the predictions, and... drum roll

HejiraNYC is the winner !

No one hit the list on the head, but Hejira make 14 picks of which 12 came out for 85%

VERY VERY close was Musicman408 , who went 11 for 13

Hejira, let me know how to get the tee to you, or I can bring to either the Taj or Foxwoods and personally deliver


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