The Ledge

The Ledge (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/index.php)
-   Stevie Nicks (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/forumdisplay.php?f=7)
-   -   Stevie Summer Tour: Will She Perform NEW Material? (http://ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/showthread.php?t=44212)

TrueFaith77 07-09-2010 08:16 AM

Stevie Summer Tour: Will She Perform NEW Material?
 
Thought this would make for fun speculation. Stevie is recording a new album. At least 6-7 tracks have been written and the music recorded (if not vocals). Stevie is going on tour this August, potentially waaaay before any new material is actually released (couldn't hurt to drop a single, Stevie!). So, will she use this upcoming tour to test out, and get fans familiar with, new material that is intended for the new album??? Or is she too afraid of alienating fair-weather fans and will stick to her usual greatest-hits setlist???

I'm curious to find out people's predictions.

SapphireSister 07-09-2010 09:25 AM

I could totally see her doing it. I'm sure she's just as excited about it as we are and plus, she's done this before with new songs hasn't she?

Aussie W/Heart 07-09-2010 10:28 AM

This is a good question, I really think she will change up her setlist & perhaps will add some new materiel this time around, esp after touring with F/Mac 09 she seemed almost tired to death of singing the same old songs night after night, which is totally understandable. She is near the 3/4 mark of her career as it stands now, so she's got nothing to lose & with this new CD & Movie in the making just goes to show Stevie is defiantly not done with yet:blob1:

louielouie2000 07-09-2010 11:25 AM

Well, she sang (albeit just a verse) the New Orleans song last year. I could definitely see her singing ONE new song this summer... it'd be a great way to drum up interest in her new album. Probably why she's doing this brief summer tour: to let her fans know she's got a new album on the way.

wheart 07-09-2010 12:00 PM

I was leaning towards yes but I went with no. It wouldn't surprise me if she'd throw in just one song but I doubt we'll get anymore than that. We all know Stevie's views of playing "the new songs" and her perception of the audience's reaction to them. Her overall impression is that nobody wants to hear the new stuff (although she did play a lot of new songs on the TISL tour). I think her reasoning would be that nobody's even heard these songs yet so of course they're not going to know them or want to hear them. This, of course, is far from the truth but I believe it's what Stevie will probably be thinking. Then again, she may just love these new songs so much and be so proud of them that she'll be compelled to play a few and not give a **** what anyone thinks. We shall see...

SapphireSister 07-09-2010 12:09 PM

She did new stuff on the Bella Donna (White-Winged Dove) tour also that most people hadn't heard before. Keeping in mind the fact that that was 25+ years ago and she's very different now I sincerely believe there's a good chance she'll give us a taste.

DestinyRules 07-09-2010 12:22 PM

Stevie's way too much of a nervous nelly to try out new material before a record gets put out.

And frankly, too many of the casual fans sit on their hands while she sings songs they don't know. And I *know* she sees it and hears the polite applause from "fans" when that happens.

KarmaContestant 07-09-2010 12:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DestinyRules (Post 899548)
Stevie's way too much of a nervous nelly to try out new material before a record gets put out.

And frankly, too many of the casual fans sit on their hands while she sings songs they don't know. And I *know* she sees it and hears the polite applause from "fans" when that happens.

^^This. There is no way Stevie will perform new songs prior to an album release. Singing a snippet of a chorus does not count as 'performing new material'.

Richard B 07-09-2010 12:58 PM

I think she very well could try out a new song. Some of the current players are joining her on the tour, plus she is playing small venues, most are in casinos.
I do believe she premiered Stand Back at the US Festival, which wasn't quite out yet.

Macfanforever 07-09-2010 04:47 PM

I'm in the middle on this one,But I hope she surprize us.

london 07-09-2010 06:01 PM

Call it wishful thinking...I voted "Yes"!

HejiraNYC 07-09-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wheart (Post 899542)
I was leaning towards yes but I went with no. It wouldn't surprise me if she'd throw in just one song but I doubt we'll get anymore than that. We all know Stevie's views of playing "the new songs" and her perception of the audience's reaction to them. Her overall impression is that nobody wants to hear the new stuff (although she did play a lot of new songs on the TISL tour). I think her reasoning would be that nobody's even heard these songs yet so of course they're not going to know them or want to hear them. This, of course, is far from the truth but I believe it's what Stevie will probably be thinking. Then again, she may just love these new songs so much and be so proud of them that she'll be compelled to play a few and not give a **** what anyone thinks. We shall see...

Well, then how do you explain her performing "Circle Dance" and "Face the Promise" on her recent tours? These are not exactly staples in the American songbook. If "Circle Dance" isn't a "hand-sitting" song, then I don't know what is! My feeling is that if she is feeling really excited about her new songs, and if they are really upbeat and rocking, she will do at least one. After all the hard work she just put into these songwriting and recording sessions, I think the last thing she will want to do is just pretend that nothing happened; she's a woman- she's gonna want to blab her big secret!

michelej1 07-09-2010 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 899644)
If "Circle Dance" isn't a "hand-sitting" song, then I don't know what is!


:laugh:

I think she'll do one or two, just to shake things up a little. A preview to test the waters. And I guess she'd probably choose not to do what she considers the best songs from the upcoming album either. She'll save those for the next tour. She'll just do one or two songs to get buzz going, since she knows Dave has already gotten curiousity whetted.

Or she might do one new song and one rarely (or never) performed one from her back catalog.

Michele

TrueFaith77 07-09-2010 09:41 PM

I voted "No" in the hopes she'll prove me wrong.

But I also think she's set in her ways.

vivfox 07-09-2010 10:21 PM

Stevie likes to rehearse for 3 months for her tours. And then she always plays the same things. With the tour starting in less than a month and there have been no tour rehearsal's, do you honestly think her songset will change at all?

SapphireSister 07-09-2010 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 899664)
Stevie likes to rehearse for 3 months for her tours. And then she always plays the same things. With the tour starting in less than a month and there have been no tour rehearsal's, do you honestly think her songset will change at all?

Why yes, I do. And I intend to be there to hear it and tell you guys all about it. :blob2:

Meowi 07-09-2010 10:39 PM

I dont think she'll perform any songs, maybe a mention though-

louielouie2000 07-09-2010 10:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 899664)
Stevie likes to rehearse for 3 months for her tours. And then she always plays the same things. With the tour starting in less than a month and there have been no tour rehearsal's, do you honestly think her songset will change at all?

Heh... point taken! I'm changing my vote to "Hell No!" :p

Nikolaj 07-09-2010 11:09 PM

I voted YES and I mean specifically for her first West Coast dates, to see if it sparks interest in her getting any more bookings by not doing her standard show. I think if even non-capacity crowds leave enthused, especially by 2 new showstoppers- 3 would be better-, it may help her get some more dates. Some 'circuit' (if that term still even exists, for a chain of sheds with common investors in various states)- the Westbury Music Fair in NY and the old Oakdale in CT, were 2, years ago that come to mind) --meaning, a small group of investors may take a chance and book a dozen shows of a revitalized Stevie in smaller venues they deal with. It doesn't look like a major promoter is involved, as of yet.
If crowds keep being smallish, as they were getting to be on her last solo tour, ticket prices are still too high, by the time she gets to Atlantic City NJ and the MGM Grand in CT, I think she could cut the new songs, why bother, she only got 5 dates out of the whole thing, and any new songs could be gone.
Something's changed now in Stevieland, when she can't get more than 5 dates booked, after all the time passed since the first dates were announced. But this is a cautious summer, booking-wise.
Another singer I like had 17 dates, most very successful, but the star also dropped the high asking price considerably, negotiated on the gate, and so most ticket prices were $50 less for top seats in many cities than had been on previous tours. This singer went all out with an entirely new, and expensive show with a huge band, and studied voice for months retraining the pipes, before hiring the band, and by opening night, was singing better than in a dozen years. Then, the singer stopped after 17 dates, had well more than a dozen glowing reviews and great word of mouth, and now is slowly booking dates for August and September, only 4 so far. But that's still 21 dates total, to SN's five. And their first dates were announced at about the same time. My guess is the major difference is that SN hasn't come down on her price.

vivfox 07-09-2010 11:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Meowi (Post 899671)
I dont think she'll perform any songs, maybe a mention though-

Matt, if she's not gonna sing onstage, do you think she'll sit in a comfortable chair and read us some old fashioned fairy tales? Or maybe do a one hour question and answer session?:p

Nikolaj 07-10-2010 12:04 AM

It occurs to me that Stevie likely may be in magnificent voice on these upcoming dates, having sung and resung the songs for her new album, and singing regularly as she has been for several months in the studio. Her voice is likely to very strong, the more you use it, the better it is, I believe. And you know she's been wanting to have the upcoming album showcase her in great voice, so I think she should be ready to really impress everyone in a huge way. She's all broken in!

Meowi 07-10-2010 01:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 899677)
Matt, if she's not gonna sing onstage, do you think she'll sit in a comfortable chair and read us some old fashioned fairy tales? Or maybe do a one hour question and answer session?:p

she can make us some of her mexican dip...

Stevie's~Prince 07-10-2010 03:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 899677)
Matt, if she's not gonna sing onstage, do you think she'll sit in a comfortable chair and read us some old fashioned fairy tales? Or maybe do a one hour question and answer session?:p

She may show us the singing fish :rolleyes:

TrueFaith77 07-10-2010 06:46 AM

Wow. Saturday morning and the "yes"s are winning! i'm amazed. Some compelling arguments. The only thing that actually does make me think she MIGHT be doing material IS the few tour dates. As if it were a testing-the-waters tour. But on the other hand, I really don't know anything about that stuff. :lol:

RockAlot 07-10-2010 11:56 AM

I went with no, its out of her comfort zone. On the other hand, this isnt a full on tour (not yet) just a few shows here and there. I'm hoping for 1 new song, but I learned long ago not to get my hopes up...

Macfanforever 07-10-2010 12:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Stevie's~Prince (Post 899696)
She may show us the singing fish :rolleyes:


Hahaha,she can do a duet with it doing Leather and Lace.LOL.....

nailatixela 07-10-2010 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Macfanforever (Post 899723)
Hahaha,she can do a duet with it doing Leather and Lace.LOL.....

Or fishnet and lace.

Musicman408 07-10-2010 03:20 PM

I'm HOPING for yes- but I voted for no! :(

Ghost_Tracker 07-10-2010 08:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 899521)
Thought this would make for fun speculation. Stevie is recording a new album. At least 6-7 tracks have been written and the music recorded (if not vocals). Stevie is going on tour this August, potentially waaaay before any new material is actually released (couldn't hurt to drop a single, Stevie!). So, will she use this upcoming tour to test out, and get fans familiar with, new material that is intended for the new album???



....... :shocked: ......... HA!


We now return to our regularly-scheduled programming. ;)

TrueFaith77 07-10-2010 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker (Post 899766)
....... :shocked: ......... HA!


We now return to our regularly-scheduled programming. ;)

You didn't vote :p

SortaSavageLike 07-10-2010 08:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nailatixela (Post 899724)
Or fishnet and lace.

Bring back the fishnets!
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i2...icksfix027.jpg

Phil 07-10-2010 08:38 PM

I'd like to think Stevie would perform one or two new songs, but I think it's extremely unlikely. Remember she did a few live shows in the latter part of 2000 and at one concert in September of that year, she commented that the "new" album (Trouble In Shangri-La) was finished. However, even though all the songs had been written and recorded, she still didn't attempt any of them on stage.
The latest album isn't finished - depending on who you listen to, either half of it is done or else it's close to completion - so it seems probable that not even a tracklisting has been decided as yet. There is also the other question of whether Stevie has laid down her vocals or not - I'm wondering if that photo of her listening to the rough mixes was on the last night or perhaps earlier during the recording sessions?
I'm also curious about David Wild's (Rolling Stone writer) comments about the songs being "deeply personal" and featuring "lots of ghosts (and) vampires" if the vocals haven't been laid down as yet. It's possible he's listened to the demos as well or perhaps read some lyric sheets, but he was commenting on the "work in progresss" so that would suggest that Stevie has perhaps recorded at least some of the vocals. Is anyone able to clarify the situation?

TrueFaith77 07-10-2010 08:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Phil (Post 899770)
I'd like to think Stevie would perform one or two new songs, but I think it's extremely unlikely. Remember she did a few live shows in the latter part of 2000 and at one concert in September of that year, she commented that the "new" album (Trouble In Shangri-La) was finished. However, even though all the songs had been written and recorded, she still didn't attempt any of them on stage.

That answers it for me. She is not going to perform any new songs.

Ghost_Tracker 07-10-2010 09:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TrueFaith77 (Post 899767)
You didn't vote :p


Just did, thanks for reminding me. :)

TrueFaith77 07-10-2010 10:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ghost_Tracker (Post 899777)
Just did, thanks for reminding me. :)

Now it's a tie! :blob1:

skuncles 07-10-2010 11:11 PM

Stevie has said that you can't do new songs because the people won't know them and will just sit there. She then usually tells the story of the shows the Mac did in 1976 where they did some of the songs from "Rumours" and how people just didn't know the songs so they didn't go over very well.
Stevie really has no sense of time. At that point there were still a lot of people going to see them that were fans of "Hypnotized" and "Oh Well" etc. So they didn't want to hear these songs by these new people they didn't know.
At the same time Stevie did "Gold & Braid" on the Bella Donna tour and that song was never released and it seemingly went over very well.
History tells us that she won't do anything new because Stevie is still very much living in the '70's. However I have a feeling she might really shake things up at these shows.

Nathan 07-11-2010 12:43 AM

The poll is a TIE right now!! :blob2:

ButterCookie 07-11-2010 06:38 AM

Shoot me for saying it if you like but whatever.

On their tour of the UK which finished last week, Blondie had a split set. They did many of the hits, a few album tracks that weren't singles, some solo tracks off Debbie's Necessary Evil album and about 6 brand new tracks off their forthcoming album and the new ones went down phenomenally well. I know that the 'hardcore' fans at the concert I went to were making up the front row along with myself, because they're friends of mine and we queued together. However, when the band played the new material the rest of the crowd behind us went wild. They completely and utterly loved it.

I really think it'd do Stevie's new album a ton of extra good if she did play a few of the new songs as long as she introduced them, telling the audience about the album. That way they'll get excited and share her, and the big time fan's, excitement. She can do it and pull it off and we all know that :)

Macfanforever 07-11-2010 04:31 PM

After reading and thinking the last couple of days,I had to breakdown and vote,and I voted No.Like said she probably feel upset with the audiences reaction after playing new tunes,But I hope I'm wrong and she will sneak them on to the setlist.I rather hear the new tunes then the cover tunes .Also I hope she will shed some light on these projects that are floating around on Twitter and other sources.
I'm bringing my friends to the Connecticut show like I've been doing for the last few tours.They loved the last Stevie/FM concerts .I think they would have no problem if Stevie trys out her new tunes.I will print out the setlist if it comes on here or Nicksfix to give to my friends before the show.

skuncles 07-11-2010 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 899806)
I really think it'd do Stevie's new album a ton of extra good if she did play a few of the new songs as long as she introduced them, telling the audience about the album. That way they'll get excited and share her, and the big time fan's, excitement. She can do it and pull it off and we all know that :)

You bring up a good point, if she feels the material is that good, then there should be no problem introducing it at the shows. Stevie CAN do it, the problem is for whatever reason she's afraid to. This is what I've been saying all along, she just needs to go and do the show SHE wants to do and lead the audience where she wants.


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:25 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2026, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
© 1995-2003 Martin and Lisa Adelson, All Rights Reserved