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MissLadyLoki 05-17-2010 07:58 PM

Which lady of the Mac do you prefer?
 
Just doing a quick poll before I leave for a week. Simple question, self-explanatory.

StreetAngel95 05-17-2010 08:04 PM

Well, since trying to pick a favorite Mac girl was all too difficult, i went with Lindsey!

Besides, musically, he's the most talented out of all of 'em put together!

tilthefirefades 05-17-2010 08:07 PM

What about Bekka? :shocked:


jus sayin'

MissLadyLoki 05-17-2010 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 890688)
What about Bekka? :shocked:


jus sayin'

Didn't really think of her. The Stevie-Chris debate is sorta like the Dave-Sammy debate with Van Halen, and Bekka is a bit like Gary Cherone in VH: the person that tends not to really be associated as a lead singer in the band.

RickRobert 05-17-2010 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 890688)
Bekka

:distress:

I suppose I'll go with Sheryl Cro-oh wait

Can't choose between Stevie, Chris and Lindsey, so Grace Slick it is! Though I always prefered Mickey Thomas

tilthefirefades 05-17-2010 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by MissLadyLoki (Post 890690)
Didn't really think of her. The Stevie-Chris debate is sorta like the Dave-Sammy debate with Van Halen, and Bekka is a bit like Gary Cherone in VH: the person that tends not to really be associated as a lead singer in the band.

Bekka deserves her fair share of credit too. She has one hell of a voice, and her only fault was doing Stevie songs on the Time tour. This would be like doing a "men of the mac?" poll, and forgetting Billy Burnette and Rick Vito :eek::shocked::eek:

MissLadyLoki 05-17-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 890695)
Bekka deserves her fair share of credit too. She has one hell of a voice, and her only fault was doing Stevie songs on the Time tour. This would be like doing a "men of the mac?" poll, and forgetting Billy Burnette and Rick Vito :eek::shocked::eek:

Sorry, she just never came to mind for me. I was thinking primarily of Stevie and Chris duking it out.

bluefox4000 05-17-2010 08:44 PM

Stevie. Easy choice. I love Chris but Stevie's got grit in her voice which I love. I just love raspy scarred voices

Mick

chelluversu 05-17-2010 09:05 PM

I could never choose between Stevie and Chris...
even though Stevie was the first that I saw, it was Chris that got me.
It may seem to my friends that I'm obsessed with Stevie because I have more of her stuff than Chris, but that's only because Stevie was more successful (meaning more stuff and concerts). Chris also holds a special place in my heart because she plays piano and so do I.
I will never choose between the two...

Miss Vicky 05-17-2010 09:08 PM

Thanks for sticking up for Bekka, Anthony. :thumbsup:

And yeah, Bekka gets my vote without question. She is hands down my favorite female vocalist. Period.

ButterCookie 05-18-2010 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 890688)
What about Bekka? :shocked:


jus sayin'

Sorry, I just actually spat my cereal :lol:

I voted for Chris... surprisingly :rolleyes: I can't put my finger on what it is that I love most about her. Her beautifully smooth voice, her worderful, thought provoking lyrics, her sheer musical genius (I'm yet to find someone else who can play Tusk on the accordion whilst dancing, screaming and having just finished playing the chair) or her amazing looks? Either way, she's what makes Fleetwood Mac for me.

Meowi 05-18-2010 02:18 AM

I just could not decide...

chriskisn 05-18-2010 07:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 890715)
Thanks for sticking up for Bekka, Anthony. :thumbsup:

And yeah, Bekka gets my vote without question. She is hands down my favorite female vocalist. Period.

Well why not, I'll throw in another pointless uncounted vote for Bekka. Gotta love that girl!

jaycee 05-18-2010 07:20 AM

Christine. She contributed more material to the band, both before and during the Rumours era... although Stevie's voice is contribution enough, which makes it feel like a task of splitting hairs to me to choose between the two. :)

Miss Vicky 05-18-2010 09:41 AM

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Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 890740)
Sorry, I just actually spat my cereal :lol:

I assume that was a scoff of derision?

Question: Other than her songs on Time, how familiar are you with Bekka's work?

ButterCookie 05-18-2010 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 890810)
I assume that was a scoff of derision?

Question: Other than her songs on Time, how familiar are you with Bekka's work?

Highly familiar, actually. I don't waste good food over nothing.

I don't quite see what her other work has to do with 'Ladies of the Mac' though :shrug:

HejiraNYC 05-18-2010 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 890815)
I don't quite see what her other work has to do with 'Ladies of the Mac' though :shrug:

Shhh... Stop making sense!

ButterCookie 05-18-2010 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 890822)
Shhh... Stop making sense!

http://www.zombieguiders.com/forum/i...con_giggle.gif Sorry

APerfectLie 05-18-2010 10:49 AM

You cannot vote on this poll. WTMFH?

But Stevie, for sure.

nailatixela 05-18-2010 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 890688)
What about Bekka? :shocked:


jus sayin'

LOL...it's pretty sad that Grace Slick is an option in this poll, but not Bekka. And even Lindsey is a choice. Poor Bekka. At least Mick isn't an option.

chiliD 05-18-2010 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 890688)
What about Bekka? :shocked:


jus sayin'

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissLadyLoki (Post 890690)
Didn't really think of her. The Stevie-Chris debate is sorta like the Dave-Sammy debate with Van Halen, and Bekka is a bit like Gary Cherone in VH: the person that tends not to really be associated as a lead singer in the band.

Quote:

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 890695)
Bekka deserves her fair share of credit too. She has one hell of a voice, and her only fault was doing Stevie songs on the Time tour. This would be like doing a "men of the mac?" poll, and forgetting Billy Burnette and Rick Vito :eek::shocked::eek:

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissLadyLoki (Post 890699)
Sorry, she just never came to mind for me. I was thinking primarily of Stevie and Chris duking it out.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 890715)
Thanks for sticking up for Bekka, Anthony. :thumbsup:

And yeah, Bekka gets my vote without question. She is hands down my favorite female vocalist. Period.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 890740)
Sorry, I just actually spat my cereal :lol:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Miss Vicky (Post 890810)
I assume that was a scoff of derision?


It just is ludicrious that Bekka wasn't included. That's the same as if I did a poll:

Who's your favorite Fleetwood Mac guitarist:

Peter Green
Lindsey Buckingham
Rick Vito


Uh...no Spencer? no Kirwan? no Welch? no Weston? no Burnette? no Mason?

It's my view that you either include ALL members who fit the criteria of the poll, or the poll is invalid. SO, to me, this is an invalid poll.

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Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 890695)
...her (Bekka) only fault was doing Stevie songs on the Time tour.

WTF kinda comment is THAT?? OF COURSE she'd be doing Stevie songs, as well as Christine songs...she's doing her first tour as the new female singer of Fleetwood Mac doing her predecessors songs in concert. Bob Welch, Lindsey Buckingham, Billy Burnette & Rick Vito all had to do Peter Green tunes....Lindsey had to do Bob Welch tunes....Billy had to do Lindsey tunes. Nobody puts them down for THAT...but HOLY CRAP, Bekka does what she's SUPPOSED to do and she gets vilified???? Why the double standard? Are you really THAT psychotically Nicks-centric? Seems to be in epidemic proportions around here. :mad:

RickRobert 05-18-2010 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 890832)
It just is ludicrious that Bekka wasn't included. That's the same as if I did a poll:

Who's your favorite Fleetwood Mac guitarist:

Peter Green
Lindsey Buckingham
Rick Vito


Uh...no Spencer? no Kirwan? no Welch? no Weston? no Burnette? no Mason?

Thing is, they're good guitarists.

chiliD 05-18-2010 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by RickRobert (Post 890838)
Thing is, they're good guitarists.

Of course, but you obviously missed the point completely.

tilthefirefades 05-18-2010 02:00 PM

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WTF kinda comment is THAT?? OF COURSE she'd be doing Stevie songs, as well as Christine songs...she's doing her first tour as the new female singer of Fleetwood Mac doing her predecessors songs in concert. Bob Welch, Lindsey Buckingham, Billy Burnette & Rick Vito all had to do Peter Green tunes....Lindsey had to do Bob Welch tunes....Billy had to do Lindsey tunes. Nobody puts them down for THAT...but HOLY CRAP, Bekka does what she's SUPPOSED to do and she gets vilified???? Why the double standard? Are you really THAT psychotically Nicks-centric? Seems to be in epidemic proportions around here. :mad:
Whoaaa. I took up for Bekka...? I am very Nicks-centric, yes. But Bekka and Stevie are two completely different people, that sing on opposite ends of the spectrum. I just think they should have done everything different with the Time era. It was a different band, and it should have been a different setlist.

louielouie2000 05-18-2010 02:20 PM

Apparently I'm the only one who voted for Grace Slick! :laugh: In my humblest of opinions, you really can't pit Stevie against Christine or vice versa, because they're so wholly different. I love each for very different reasons. I listen to each for very different reasons.

And for those making a spectacle about Bekka: get over yourselves. She was a very, very brief blip in Mac history. People make the biggest damn fuss over that woman, yet they don't cajole over Bob Weston, Bob Brunning, or Dave Walker like they do her. Why? Because she's got a rack? For what it's worth, I'm sure it wasn't Bekka's idea at all to do Stevie Nicks songs. I'm sure she would have rather made her own mark anyway. It's all part and parcel with the Mac package that new members have to play past members crappy songs. That still doesn't make it any more pleasant for the rest of us, though. Lindsey's version of Oh Well makes my skin crawl, and my ears are STILL bleeding a decade and a half later after hearing Bekka's Gold Dust Woman :laugh:. Displeasure also goes with Fleetwood Mac like coke and straws do with Stevie's tush. :wavey:

ButterCookie 05-18-2010 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 890858)
Displeasure also goes with Fleetwood Mac like coke and straws do with Stevie's tush. :wavey:

Have I ever told you how much I love you? :lol:

RickRobert 05-18-2010 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 890860)
Have I ever told you how much I love you? :lol:

Back off he's mine :mad::lol:

chiliD 05-18-2010 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tilthefirefades (Post 890853)
Whoaaa. I took up for Bekka...? I am very Nicks-centric, yes. But Bekka and Stevie are two completely different people, that sing on opposite ends of the spectrum. I just think they should have done everything different with the Time era. It was a different band, and it should have been a different setlist.

The setlist varied little between personnel changes, why is 1994/95 all of a sudden "the new set of rules"??? Because they're Stevie Nicks written songs being done by "the NEW Fleetwood Mac"? Well f*** that...they should've retired "Rattlesnake Shake", "Oh Well" & "Black Magic Woman" when Peter left, too, but they didn't...the songs are FLEETWOOD MAC songs...done by FLEETWOOD MAC.

Oh and Louie, get over your own F***ing self.

bluefox4000 05-18-2010 03:47 PM

All this fuss over a crappy time in a great band. Wow Bekka is a sore spot

Mick

louielouie2000 05-18-2010 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 890884)
Oh and Louie, get over your own F***ing self.

I could say the same, my friend! :thumbsup: I've known you through the Fleetwood Mac message boards for 10 years now, and know your ways well. You like to scream and yell at anyone who says anything less than gleaming things about non '75-'87 Mac, or when someone forgets to list some random, obscure member. Bekka definitely falls into the latter category: if you polled modern day Mac concert goers asking who she was, 99% or more would have no idea. She was a one-album member... a member of the worst selling chapter in Mac history, to boot. Seriously, what's the fuss about this one chick? I just don't get it.

I know your motive is to turn people on to the non Buckingham Nicks lineups and members. But seriously, do you think screaming at people and berating their opinions accomplishes that? Why can't someone just be a guilt free fan? Honestly, I know you just like yelling and pushing people's buttons. You hide behind your massive Mac knowledge for protection, but I never hear you speak about listening to a Bekka solo album and enjoying it, for instance. I however DO hear you say complimentary things about Stevie Nicks, from time to time. ;)

TrueFaith77 05-18-2010 04:13 PM

I thought about Lindsey for his Big Love backing vocals, but I figured that was too clever (and not really genuine on my part anyway). So I chose Stevie, because as much as I adore Christine (and I do) and as much as I think they are equal geniuses, Stevie's songs are more important to me, her persona intrigues me more, and she held my hand once.

Plus she gave the world: "Rhiannon," "Gypsy," "Beautiful Child"!

I mean. Really.

p.s. -- ChilliD is essentially right. Even though she's "obscure"--this is a fan site. A place for people who KNOW the obscurities. So it is strange that Bekka was left off the poll. Even if she had gotten 0 votes, then fine: the people would have spoken. But at least they coulda chosen. That said:

p.p.s. -- Technically speaking, this poll is in the Rumours thread, so . . . technically . . . it's ok to leave out Bekka.

jbrownsjr 05-18-2010 06:29 PM

This poll is a little strange only because it's obvious Stevie is more popular... Not better... but definitely more popular...

It's like saying who do you like better on guitar.. Eric Clapton or Lindsey Buckingham...

If this were a national poll Clapton would destroy him... most people know who Stevie and Eric are... many many people don't know who Christine McVie and Lindsey Buckingham are....

Most people that come to this site with 31 posts are Stevie fans... I've been around long enough to know that...

Lou Chili isn't screaming at people to berate them... he's just frustrated with some FM ignorance... that's all... it's a band and sometimes people forget that... And without the name FMac.. the only people that would know who Stevie Nicks was were those in Birmingham, AL in 1973 and 1974...

chiliD 05-18-2010 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 890939)
I know your motive is to turn people on to the non Buckingham Nicks lineups and members. But seriously, do you think screaming at people and berating their opinions accomplishes that? Why can't someone just be a guilt free fan? Honestly, I know you just like yelling and pushing people's buttons. You hide behind your massive Mac knowledge for protection, but I never hear you speak about listening to a Bekka solo album and enjoying it, for instance. I however DO hear you say complimentary things about Stevie Nicks, from time to time. ;)

I get frustrated at the myopic views of Fleetwood Mac being "Rumours lineup or nothing"...if the poll had included Bekka, I probably would've just voted and not even posted to the thread......sometimes you just have to break a vase or bottle by tossing it across the room to get people's attention; otherwise they just ignore you. That's all I'm doing, as Mick would call it, "Rattling the Cage"...the only reason I told YOU to "f-off" is because you'd pushed MY button with your post (as usual)...in the sake of "personal honor", I had to push back (as usual). Plus, after all these years of posting on FMac boards, aren't we USED to telling each other to "f-off" and living to see another day? :D :sorry:

And, anyway, wouldn't I have been conspicuous by my absence if I DIDN'T bring up the Bekka omission? Somebody would've posted, "UH, OH, chili's going to spring a leak on this one", if I hadn't....so, I just had a reputation to live up to, appease certain expectations, as well. It's not exactly easy being "chiliD", ya know! :cool: :eek::shocked::angel:

PenguinHead 05-18-2010 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 890858)
Apparently I'm the only one who voted for Grace Slick! :laugh: In my humblest of opinions, you really can't pit Stevie against Christine or vice versa, because they're so wholly different. I love each for very different reasons. I listen to each for very different reasons.

And for those making a spectacle about Bekka: get over yourselves. She was a very, very brief blip in Mac history. People make the biggest damn fuss over that woman, yet they don't cajole over Bob Weston, Bob Brunning, or Dave Walker like they do her. Why? Because she's got a rack? For what it's worth, I'm sure it wasn't Bekka's idea at all to do Stevie Nicks songs. I'm sure she would have rather made her own mark anyway. It's all part and parcel with the Mac package that new members have to play past members crappy songs. That still doesn't make it any more pleasant for the rest of us, though. Lindsey's version of Oh Well makes my skin crawl, and my ears are STILL bleeding a decade and a half later after hearing Bekka's Gold Dust Woman :laugh:. Displeasure also goes with Fleetwood Mac like coke and straws do with Stevie's tush. :wavey:


You are not the only one who voted for Grace Slick. I voted for Grace if only just for the fact that I'm on a big Jefferson Airplane kick right now. I have their entire catalog. They are one my favorite bands. It seems a lot of the bands I love have a mixture of men and women: Fleetwood Mac, The Mamas & Papas, Jefferson Airplane, The Magic Numbers etc... I guess I like the variety and appeal that comes with that dynamic. And, like you, I can never choose between Stevie and Chris. Why should I? It's like Sophie's choice!! Go Bekka! lol

goldustsongbird 05-18-2010 07:27 PM

I actually like Becca's voice, but she's into the vocal gymnastics diva **** (or was, on the Shake the Cage tour), and homie don't play that.

I love both Chris and Stevie, almost equally. It is possible. :rolleyes:

RickRobert 05-18-2010 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by PenguinHead (Post 890973)
You are not the only one who voted for Grace Slick. I voted for Grace just for the fact that I'm on a big Jefferson Airplane kick right now. I have their entire catalog. They are one my favorite bands. It seems a lot of the bands I love have a mixture of men and women: Fleetwood Mac, The Mamas & Papas, Jefferson Airplane, The Magic Numbers etc...

I would have done the same, but in the context of Jefferson Starship, Mickey Thomas just about edges it for me. Best rock tenor since Brad Delp for sure! This poll needs Bekka and Mickey options... :wavey:

Street_Dreamer 05-18-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 890939)
Seriously, what's the fuss about this one chick? I just don't get it.

Personally, that's how I feel about Miss Nicks. How people could hang on to some of the drivel she's produced is beyond me. Furthermore, her fans act as though she's just as relevant in 2010 as she was in 1981. Please. She hasn't done anything truly worthwhile in the music industry on her own since 1989. Her fans should thank their lucky stars every day for Lindsey because she never would have made it without him. Speaking of her fans, many of the diehards I've come across over the years are some of the most myopic, narrow-minded fans that I have ever come across. Don't think that's true, what about Stevie fans who disliked Bekka because she performed Stevie's Fleetwood Mac songs? What kind of nonsense is that? Certainly everyone's entitled to their views of the way Bekka performed songs like Gold Dust Woman, but to dislike her because she performed it while being in Fleetwood Mac shows how small-minded these fans are.

In terms of answering the original question of this thread it would be Christine.

Matt

Miss Vicky 05-18-2010 09:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 890815)
Highly familiar, actually. I don't waste good food over nothing.

I don't quite see what her other work has to do with 'Ladies of the Mac' though :shrug:

I only asked this because it has been my experience that a lot of people dismiss Bekka without giving her a fair shot. Many of them do so without having heard any of her work. I don't really know you, but I assumed that - since you appear to be a Christine McVie fan - you'd at least heard Time and I was just curious to see if you'd heard anything else before making that comment. If you already are familiar with her other work and still aren't a fan, that's fine. To each their own.

To me, her solo work is just as important as anything to do with Fleetwood Mac. I'm sure many of the people who responded to this thread have formed their opinions of Stevie and Christine based on their entire body of work (or at least included some of their solo material) rather than just each one's contributions to the band. So it's perfectly fair to do the same for Bekka.

HomerMcvie 05-18-2010 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 891010)
Don't think that's true, what about Stevie fans who disliked Bekka because she performed Stevie's Fleetwood Mac songs? What kind of nonsense is that? Certainly everyone's entitled to their views of the way Bekka performed songs like Gold Dust Woman, but to dislike her because she performed it while being in Fleetwood Mac shows how small-minded these fans are.

Matt

Matt, you f*cking rock! Most of the "exclusively Stevie" fans just piss me off to no end. Because they're not about FM! Just about the ditz.:eek:
I now toast my beer to you!:]

PenguinHead 05-18-2010 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Street_Dreamer (Post 891010)
She hasn't done anything truly worthwhile in the music industry on her own since 1989. Her fans should thank their lucky stars every day for Lindsey because she never would have made it without him. Speaking of her fans, many of the diehards I've come across over the years are some of the most myopic, narrow-minded fans that I have ever come across. Don't think that's true, what about Stevie fans who disliked Bekka because she performed Stevie's Fleetwood Mac songs? What kind of nonsense is that? Certainly everyone's entitled to their views of the way Bekka performed songs like Gold Dust Woman, but to dislike her because she performed it while being in Fleetwood Mac shows how small-minded these fans are.

Matt

I love this! Thanks Matt!


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