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llb 05-08-2010 04:12 PM

Christine's voice
 
Is there anyone else even close to Christine's singing voice? Would love to hear a contemporary to enjoy.

RickRobert 05-08-2010 04:26 PM

Lindsey when singing in falsetto ;)

StreetAngel95 05-08-2010 04:57 PM

Christine's voice is so awesome, authentic, and gorgeous. I've never heard another sing quite like her (same goes for Stevie). But when i was younger, i sometimes did confuse Lindsey with Chris (in Hold Me, Don't Stop, and You Make Lovin Fun)....

that didn't answer your question AT ALL...sorry!

David 05-08-2010 05:20 PM

Sandy Denny had a different timbre, but I can't help thinking that Christine spent some time early on listening to Denny, who may have left her mark on Christine's airiness & marvelous throw-away quality in her relaxed phrasing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2xODjbfYw8

aleuzzi 05-09-2010 10:21 AM

One reviewer for Bare Trees said her approach was somewhere between Sandy Denny and Dusty Springfield. That makes sense, actually. Sometimes Dusty's effortless vocals sound a lot like Christine's. But no, in general, I don't know of anyone else who sounds like her. Part of the magic is that her voice isn't perfect. It's kinda woozy and occasionally manish--but then she is also quite delicate and feminine, too. It's a strange brew--but one that is pure gold, I think.

Listening to the opening verse of "Friend" my sister said, "Her voice is strange, eerie, as if she were a lone voice in the wilderness." I liked that.

From 1983-85 her voice was a bit worn out, comparatively speaking, but she got it back beautifully for all subsequent recordings. I still can't believe how good it sounded on ITM.

DefDumbandBlond 05-09-2010 10:55 PM

Yeah I can hear a bit of a similarity between D.S. and Christine, but otherwise I've personally never really come across anyone else who sounds like her.

MissLadyLoki 05-10-2010 08:50 AM

This folk singer girl whose name I forget that sang on the Led Zeppelin song Battle of Evermore sounded, to me, like a combo of Chris and Ann Wilson (don't deny it, like Chris and Stevie, she's also a great rocker chick with an amazing voice), so she comes close.

Unless you count me thinking Lindsey was Chris (I did that on a few songs, like Don't Stop), I can't think of anyone else.

ButterCookie 05-10-2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by MissLadyLoki (Post 889127)
This folk singer girl whose name I forget that sang on the Led Zeppelin song Battle of Evermore sounded, to me, like a combo of Chris and Ann Wilson (don't deny it, like Chris and Stevie, she's also a great rocker chick with an amazing voice), so she comes close.

Unless you count me thinking Lindsey was Chris (I did that on a few songs, like Don't Stop), I can't think of anyone else.

:shocked: That's the most bizarre combination I've ever heard. I'm gunna go foind more stuff by that girl to see.

holidayroad 05-10-2010 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 889129)
:shocked: That's the most bizarre combination I've ever heard. I'm gunna go foind more stuff by that girl to see.

I think the girl on the Led Zep song Was Sandy Denny.

aleuzzi 05-10-2010 08:18 PM

The only time Lindsey and Chris sound alike are when they're singing together or when they're trading vocals on an "up"tune. In such cases, Christine is "butching up" her voice a bit and Lindsey is deliberately approximating her timbre. The reason Christine and Stevie sound good together is because there's Lindsey, whose vocals land somewhere in between them, a kind of neutralizer.

But taken individually Lindsey and Christine sound very different from one another.

MissLadyLoki 05-11-2010 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 889283)
The only time Lindsey and Chris sound alike are when they're singing together or when they're trading vocals on an "up"tune. In such cases, Christine is "butching up" her voice a bit and Lindsey is deliberately approximating her timbre. The reason Christine and Stevie sound good together is because there's Lindsey, whose vocals land somewhere in between them, a kind of neutralizer.

But taken individually Lindsey and Christine sound very different from one another.

When I first started listening to the Mac, I thought they were the same person cause to my ears and limited number of songs I heard. I was convinced that Stevie and Lindsey were the girls (and that the person i found out later to be Christine was Lindsey, but I was convinced he was a girl based on his name and high-pitched, girly voice), and that Chris was some outside songwriter. Turned out I was very wrong when I figured out who Chris was, and was left wondering why this Lindsey girl had a beard lol.

aleuzzi 05-12-2010 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by MissLadyLoki (Post 889381)
When I first started listening to the Mac, I thought they were the same person cause to my ears and limited number of songs I heard. I was convinced that Stevie and Lindsey were the girls (and that the person i found out later to be Christine was Lindsey, but I was convinced he was a girl based on his name and high-pitched, girly voice), and that Chris was some outside songwriter. Turned out I was very wrong when I figured out who Chris was, and was left wondering why this Lindsey girl had a beard lol.

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HejiraNYC 05-12-2010 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MissLadyLoki (Post 889381)
When I first started listening to the Mac, I thought they were the same person cause to my ears and limited number of songs I heard. I was convinced that Stevie and Lindsey were the girls (and that the person i found out later to be Christine was Lindsey, but I was convinced he was a girl based on his name and high-pitched, girly voice), and that Chris was some outside songwriter. Turned out I was very wrong when I figured out who Chris was, and was left wondering why this Lindsey girl had a beard lol.

Wow, gender-bender much? :p

To be honest, way back in the day, when I first listened to the 1980 Live album, I didn't know very much about FM, so I thought it was Lindsey who was introducing "Over My Head" and "Over and Over." My initial reaction was two-fold: 1) gosh, he sounds kinda light in the loafers and 2) he sounds really uppity with that faux-British accent. :rolleyes: I know, I know... but for some reason it didn't occur to me that it was actually Christine; I guess her speaking voice/phrasing (which is rather manly) and singing voice are very, very different.

I have often wondered what Christine would sound like if she belted more and sang with a vibrato. As it is, when she hits a certain range, her tone is sort of like a vibrato-less Barbra Streisand or Barbara Cook. It's that similar kind of mellow/brassy tone that seems to sit on the cusp between her chest and head. So even though she doesn't have much of a singing voice in the technical sense, she gets by wonderfully with her tone.

louielouie2000 05-12-2010 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 889535)
I have often wondered what Christine would sound like if she belted more and sang with a vibrato.

I can't think of anything more awful... :p.

I think it's Christine's understated vocals that make her special, actually. There are plenty of people doing vocal acrobatics in her stead. Actually, when I play the Mac for my friends, they all always comment on how much they love Christine's voice... and not anybody else's. Sometimes less really is more! :D

nicepace 05-12-2010 07:02 PM

There is a style of singing that is very popular these days that I call the "diva" style of singing. It's women singers (mostly) who add a lot of extra notes to their singing that aren't in the melody. Just about any female singer who does the Star Spangled Banner at a sporting event sings in this style (just for an example).

And I hate it. I absolutely totally hate it. When they sing a song in this fashion I cringe, and I wonder WHAT makes them think this is the right way to sing! A song has a melody for a reason, and it's not to mangle it.

Christine McVie never once sang in a "diva" style. To Stevie's credit, she doesn't either, although I like Chris' singing a lot more than Stevie's. As for Bekka, she DID sing in that diva style to some extent while with the Mac, and I just don't like it.

I think Christine sings in a classic style that is extremely enjoyable to listen to and will stand the test of time. I think in the future people will listen to Christine's vocals and enjoy them, whereas the "diva" singers of today will be looked at as a passing fad.

HejiraNYC 05-12-2010 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 889578)
I can't think of anything more awful... :p.

I think it's Christine's understated vocals that make her special, actually. There are plenty of people doing vocal acrobatics in her stead. Actually, when I play the Mac for my friends, they all always comment on how much they love Christine's voice... and not anybody else's. Sometimes less really is more! :D

I said I wondered what she would sound like; I never wished she would start singing that way. I agree; less is more. If anything, there is an odd plainness about her voice that makes her very unusual at the same time. But I don't think she intentionally holds back- I truly think her style of singing comes from a very natural place. Accordingly, I doubt she has the pipes to tackle a big showtune, but that's perfectly fine with me since she writes her own songs and doesn't sing showtunes. She does what she does splendidly.

goldustsongbird 05-12-2010 10:30 PM

Did Chris ever take singing lessons or get any coaching? Some of her early Mac performances, pre-B&N (and even a few with them) were pretty off-key. :shocked: She seemed to straighten herself out after awhile. I love her to bits, don't get me wrong, but she has had a few bum moments on stage.

Just the booze? :laugh:

HejiraNYC 05-13-2010 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 889654)
Did Chris ever take singing lessons or get any coaching? Some of her early Mac performances, pre-B&N (and even a few with them) were pretty off-key. :shocked: She seemed to straighten herself out after awhile. I love her to bits, don't get me wrong, but she has had a few bum moments on stage.

Just the booze? :laugh:

I think it's a combination of the booze, stage jitters and distraction. I am convinced that playing an instrument and singing at the same time automatically means that you are going to compromise your singing as well as your playing; it's just impossible to do both at the same time to the best of your ability. Sure, you can get better at multi-tasking over time, but an extra glass (or five) of Chardonnay will only help to undermine your progress.

Gailh 05-13-2010 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 889619)
There is a style of singing that is very popular these days that I call the "diva" style of singing. It's women singers (mostly) who add a lot of extra notes to their singing that aren't in the melody. Just about any female singer who does the Star Spangled Banner at a sporting event sings in this style (just for an example).

And I hate it. I absolutely totally hate it. When they sing a song in this fashion I cringe, and I wonder WHAT makes them think this is the right way to sing! A song has a melody for a reason, and it's not to mangle it.


I could not agree more! I can't stand it when someone sings tons of extra notes. I just want to scream SING THE BLODDY TUNE

Thank you I feel so much better now

Gail

Gailh 05-13-2010 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 889654)
Did Chris ever take singing lessons or get any coaching? Some of her early Mac performances, pre-B&N (and even a few with them) were pretty off-key. :shocked: She seemed to straighten herself out after awhile. I love her to bits, don't get me wrong, but she has had a few bum moments on stage.

Just the booze? :laugh:

I remember seeing them at Wembley Stadium for the Behind the Mask tour and she sang a few bum notes. Around that time a lot of bands were being acused of miming. I knew FM weren't - no one would mime a note like that :laugh:

Gail

chiliD 05-13-2010 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 889619)
There is a style of singing that is very popular these days that I call the "diva" style of singing. It's women singers (mostly) who add a lot of extra notes to their singing that aren't in the melody. Just about any female singer who does the Star Spangled Banner at a sporting event sings in this style (just for an example).

And I hate it. I absolutely totally hate it. When they sing a song in this fashion I cringe, and I wonder WHAT makes them think this is the right way to sing! A song has a melody for a reason, and it's not to mangle it.


Send a "thank you" card to Whitney Houston & Mariah Carey for that annoying as hell technique. Just about everybody who's followed in their footsteps have taken that to an even MORE annoying level (Christina Aguilera, for one)

goldustsongbird 05-13-2010 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 889711)
I think it's a combination of the booze, stage jitters and distraction. I am convinced that playing an instrument and singing at the same time automatically means that you are going to compromise your singing as well as your playing; it's just impossible to do both at the same time to the best of your ability. Sure, you can get better at multi-tasking over time, but an extra glass (or five) of Chardonnay will only help to undermine your progress.

This is evidenced in the Tusk doc, when she tries to sing and play Never Make Me Cry. On a boat, of all places. :lol:

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 889809)
I remember seeing them at Wembley Stadium for the Behind the Mask tour and she sang a few bum notes. Around that time a lot of bands were being acused of miming. I knew FM weren't - no one would mime a note like that :laugh:

Gail

No Milli Vanilli scandal for FM!

jbrownsjr 05-13-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 889654)
Did Chris ever take singing lessons or get any coaching? Some of her early Mac performances, pre-B&N (and even a few with them) were pretty off-key. :shocked: She seemed to straighten herself out after awhile. I love her to bits, don't get me wrong, but she has had a few bum moments on stage.

Just the booze? :laugh:

Agreed... all three of them have been terrible at some points throught 1975-1998

HomerMcvie 05-13-2010 09:50 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 889879)
Agreed... all three of them have been terrible at some points throught 1975-1998

When you're really f*cked up onstage, it's easy to get confused on pitch, as your hearing really starts playing tricks on you. Believe me, I know....been there, done that. I finally learned my limits....buzz is okay, f*cked up is not!:D

jbrownsjr 05-13-2010 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 889888)
When you're really f*cked up onstage, it's easy to get confused on pitch, as your hearing really starts playing tricks on you. Believe me, I know....been there, done that. I finally learned my limits....buzz is okay, f*cked up is not!:D

yeah vision, speech and hearing are the first to go.. then the legs...

HomerMcvie 05-13-2010 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 889889)
yeah vision, speech and hearing are the first to go.. then the legs...

Not me, only my hearing. I used to play with a drummer, who'd tell me, "David, most guys THINK they play better when they've got a good buzz, but they don't! You're the only guy I've ever heard, that does". I took that as high praise(pun!)!
My keyboard playing is probably better straight, but my lead guitar stuff is definitely better buzzed. When I'm buzzed, I can let my solo meander out into places I can't get to otherwise. Wanna know my best nights ever? If I'm sick(sick sick) as a dog. Gimme the flu, and I can really go places I'd never find otherwise. Yeah, I'm a freak. I know.:wavey:

jbrownsjr 05-13-2010 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 889891)
Not me, only my hearing. I used to play with a drummer, who'd tell me, "David, most guys THINK they play better when they've got a good buzz, but they don't! You're the only guy I've ever heard, that does". I took that as high praise(pun!)!
My keyboard playing is probably better straight, but my lead guitar stuff is definitely better buzzed. When I'm buzzed, I can let my solo meander out into places I can't get to otherwise. Wanna know my best nights ever? If I'm sick(sick sick) as a dog. Gimme the flu, and I can really go places I'd never find otherwise. Yeah, I'm a freak. I know.:wavey:

you are... but it takes one to know one..

HomerMcvie 05-14-2010 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 889893)
you are... but it takes one to know one..

I resemble that remark!:mad:










:lol::lol::lol::lol:

jbrownsjr 05-14-2010 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 889910)
I resemble that remark!:mad:










:lol::lol::lol::lol:

homer i look up... everytime that you walk in the room... and then i sing.. Welcome to the Roooooom Homer..

goldustsongbird 05-14-2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 890027)
homer i look up... everytime that you walk in the room... and then i sing.. Welcome to the Roooooom Homer..

Then you break into a sing-along Homie Hi!

HomerMcvie 05-14-2010 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 890027)
homer i look up... everytime that you walk in the room... and then i sing.. Welcome to the Roooooom Homer..

I only sing that song when I'm wearing my granny panties! :distress:

jbrownsjr 05-14-2010 08:40 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 890043)
Then you break into a sing-along Homie Hi!

I have grown to love you so much!!!

jbrownsjr 05-14-2010 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 890043)
Then you break into a sing-along Homie Hi!

Then we sing.. buy me a ticket HomerwardBound

HomerMcvie 05-14-2010 09:08 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 890118)
Then we sing.. buy me a ticket HomerwardBound

Bwahahahaha. I like that one a lot!!!:lol:

Gailh 05-15-2010 03:01 AM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 890113)
I only sing that song when I'm wearing my granny panties! :distress:

Homer I'm ashamed of you!

the correct technical term is Granny Knickers :laugh:

Gail

HomerMcvie 05-15-2010 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 890147)
Homer I'm ashamed of you!

the correct technical term is Granny Knickers :laugh:

Gail

I'm sorry.

I really don't wear granny panties!

Well, only on Tuesdays!
:rolleyes::p:D

jbrownsjr 05-15-2010 02:23 PM

we went from Christine's voice to her underpants.. lol

goldustsongbird 05-15-2010 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 890117)
I have grown to love you so much!!!

I had to win you over? Don't say it's cuz I'm Canadian (but I know, what else would it be?)

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 890118)
Then we sing.. buy me a ticket HomerwardBound

:laugh:

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Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 890279)
we went from Christine's voice to her underpants.. lol

Following in John's footsteps. ;)


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