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gypsy4life 04-25-2010 10:43 PM

Carol Ann Harris
 
I have to say this. The more I learn about this woman, the more I think she was just an attention seeking groupie! I mean, she just seems so fake to me.
I have been thinking of reading her book, so, I have been doing a little research before I pay good money for it.
I'm sure some of you have read it. What do you think?

michelej1 04-26-2010 01:46 AM

It's been discussed a lot over the years and here is the thread that has a bulk of the many musings and opinions.

http://www.ledge.fleetwoodmac.net/sh...t=storms+carol

louielouie2000 04-26-2010 02:44 AM

I've expressed my opinion on Carol Ann (I'll leave out my nickname for her, because some people get offended :cool:) and her book many times. I say regardless of what you think of her, read the book. Realize you must take every single thing she says with a grain of salt. Look more at the big picture. I think overall, she weaves a pretty accurate tapestry of at least the way the band interacted during it's heyday. I wouldn't give any specific events she mentions much credence at all. Despite that, I think this is still a must read for any avid Mac fan. It's pure gossipy trashy fun... and that's what the Mac is all about! :laugh:

Dodfather 04-26-2010 04:31 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 886284)
I've expressed my opinion on Carol Ann (I'll leave out my nickname for her, because some people get offended :cool:) and her book many times. I say regardless of what you think of her, read the book. Realize you must take every single thing she says with a grain of salt. Look more at the big picture. I think overall, she weaves a pretty accurate tapestry of at least the way the band interacted during it's heyday. I wouldn't give any specific events she mentions much credence at all. Despite that, I think this is still a must read for any avid Mac fan. It's pure gossipy trashy fun... and that's what the Mac is all about! :laugh:

More like a great big bag of the stuff!

Ahhh yes, it is a gossipy, trashy book! I'd advise reading it, just because it's a Mac book really!

skuncles 04-26-2010 06:55 AM

I found the book to be a great read. I look at this way she either is for the most part telling the truth or she is one hell of a writer. I believe she filled in a lot of blanks. She of course comes off as an angel in the book, so you know she's not telling EVERYTHING. But I thought it was a great read. I recommend this way above and beyond that piece of crap book "Read Between My Lines" which rates as one THE worst bios of Stevie ever published. That book is nothing more than a collection of info from the web (and not very well organized either) not to mention there is tons of inaccurate info in there. As for "Storms" though, despite how accurate it may or may not be, it is a great read.

David 04-26-2010 12:56 PM

I think Carol (or her ghostwriter) created a very phony atmosphere of interrelating among the dramatis personae. Dialog, moods, & emotional reactions as described in the book were no more believable or recognizably human than they are in a nighttime soap opera like "Dynasty."

Carol's book is a play, not a biography -- not even an anecdotal biography.

HomerMcvie 04-26-2010 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by skuncles (Post 886297)
I found the book to be a great read. I look at this way she either is for the most part telling the truth or she is one hell of a writer. I believe she filled in a lot of blanks. She of course comes off as an angel in the book, so you know she's not telling EVERYTHING. But I thought it was a great read. I recommend this way above and beyond that piece of crap book "Read Between My Lines" which rates as one THE worst bios of Stevie ever published. That book is nothing more than a collection of info from the web (and not very well organized either) not to mention there is tons of inaccurate info in there. As for "Storms" though, despite how accurate it may or may not be, it is a great read.

I agree. I thoroughly enjoy the book, and have read it several times. And although I don't believe she's an angel(much akin to Don Felder's Eagles book), I do believe most of the "anger trash" about Lindsey. I've always believed him of possessing a volatile temper, way before "Storms" came along.

gypsy4life 04-26-2010 09:32 PM

Thanks for the input. I'll probably read it, w/ the grain of salt idea in mind!

louielouie2000 04-27-2010 07:08 AM

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Originally Posted by gypsy4life (Post 886448)
Thanks for the input. I'll probably read it, w/ the grain of salt idea in mind!

Please do share your thoughts once you've read the book. The Mac community seems to have wildly differing thoughts on it. I personally enjoy hearing them all. To quote a line from one of my favorite movies: "Truth, like art, is in the eye of the beholder."

ButterCookie 04-27-2010 07:54 AM

Ooh, Momma bought me a copy recently. I just finished Suzi Quatro's book so I'll start Storms tonight :thumbsup:

jbrownsjr 04-27-2010 11:08 AM

Her writing is horrible.. (even if it's a ghostwriter)... It really pained me at the end....

But I found some of what was in the book believable... 1. She was there and it was her story to tell 2. She was not the only person to write about the abusiveness physical or otherwise.

It's about as believable as Mick's book... Did I believe all of it? No.. Did I believe some of it... Yes...

I love Fleetwood Mac's music and respect them as musician's. Having said that, I don't love them or worship them or even think that they these perfect people. I don't want them to be perfect (that's unbelievable).

They built the latter part of their career's on drama and drugs and that's exactly what they got.. So whether all of it's true or not, this book fits right into to what made them extremely rich and famous. It's full of drama.

She's a lot... like.... you....

gypsy4life 04-27-2010 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 886488)
Please do share your thoughts once you've read the book. The Mac community seems to have wildly differing thoughts on it. I personally enjoy hearing them all. To quote a line from one of my favorite movies: "Truth, like art, is in the eye of the beholder."

Absolutely! I just got the confirm from Amazon that it shipped today. I should have it soon.

louielouie2000 04-27-2010 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 886490)
Ooh, Momma bought me a copy recently. I just finished Suzi Quatro's book so I'll start Storms tonight :thumbsup:

You know I wanna hear your thoughts once you're done, too! :D I know you won't filter yourself! ;)

ButterCookie 04-28-2010 03:06 AM

Haah, you'll know my exact thoughts on it :p On the note of FM biographies, Rumours and Lies annoyed me no end. There were bits here and there in which the spelling and grammar was atrocious! I was tearing my hair out :lol: A good read overall, but seriously, sack the editor!

erwk05 04-28-2010 06:45 AM

I actually thought it was a really good read - Im sure for the most part it was true, of course some was probably embellished but any good writer needs to do that!

I didnt put the book down, read it solid over 2 evenings

I enjoyed learning lots of little bits of info that I never knew :)

I brought it on ebay and it was well worth it

ButterCookie 04-28-2010 02:58 PM

I started it and it's juicy, true or not. I laughed SO hard at the story of Christines strip search and her 'usuals'

DashingDan 04-28-2010 04:41 PM

I just kindled it and I'm only 5 or 6 screens in and I LOVE IT ALREADY!

Amlyn 04-28-2010 10:23 PM

I read it awhile ago, but everyone reading again has me thinking I might too.

Looking forward to some more discussion with everyone.

gypsy4life 04-28-2010 10:29 PM

Ok, my book should be here in about two days. So, I'll be sure to fill you all in on my opinion.
I am almost done with Triad now. I'm on a Stevie/Mac inspired reading frenzy!! Triad is very interesting. Stevie got the name Rhiannon from the novel, but, it's interesting apart from the song title.

louielouie2000 04-28-2010 10:34 PM

I found Triad at my neighborhood used book store probably 5 years back. I was surprised at just how different it was from my expectations. Neat little book, though. I can see why it appealed to Stevie, besides just the names. I need to dig that one out and read it again, it's probably been a couple of years! :D

And yeah, like I said, Carol Ann's book is trashy fun. If you keep that in mind, you'll snicker your butt off reading it! :laugh:

David 04-29-2010 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 886962)
And yeah, like I said, Carol Ann's book is trashy fun. If you keep that in mind, you'll snicker your butt off reading it! :laugh:

I agree with LouieLouie!

But what keeps it from being even more fun for me is all the blurry tiny Polaroids.

ButterCookie 04-29-2010 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 887081)

But what keeps it from being even more fun for me is all the blurry tiny Polaroids.

I love the polariods!! Although, I suppose I'm just a general sucker for polaroid.

APerfectLie 04-29-2010 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 886962)
I found Triad at my neighborhood used book store probably 5 years back. I was surprised at just how different it was from my expectations. Neat little book, though. I can see why it appealed to Stevie, besides just the names. I need to dig that one out and read it again, it's probably been a couple of years! :D

And yeah, like I said, Carol Ann's book is trashy fun. If you keep that in mind, you'll snicker your butt off reading it! :laugh:

I ****in loved Triad!

SmileAtYou 04-30-2010 02:45 PM

I happily checked Storms out from my public library, pleased that I didn't have to spend my $$$....

I agree with everyone's comments, it was a trashy fun read...

until the parts about Lindsey's seizures.... omg that section of the book was sooo boring and dramatic and looooong.... I never finished the book because I could not get past those boring parts!

vivfox 04-30-2010 04:16 PM

I've never read the book because it was stolen from the Library. They tried to get it from another location and that copy was stolen too.
I'm not interested in buying it either.

goldustsongbird 04-30-2010 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 886827)
I started it and it's juicy, true or not. I laughed SO hard at the story of Christines strip search and her 'usuals'

Oh, god. The granny panties.

This is my favourite part of the book, and I haven't even read all of it yet. I've only read what's available on googlebooks. Second favourite part was CAH's play-by-play of her first date with Lindsey, including the important detail of how utterly fragile he thought she was. :p

HomerMcvie 04-30-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 887430)
Oh, god. The granny panties.

This is my favourite part of the book, and I haven't even read all of it yet. I've only read what's available on googlebooks. Second favourite part was CAH's play-by-play of her first date with Lindsey, including the important detail of how utterly fragile he thought she was. :p

I can't believe you've not read it!!!!!


And, btw, I think "Oh no, granny panties" should be your next sheep caption!

michelej1 04-30-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 887430)
Second favourite part was CAH's play-by-play of her first date with Lindsey, including the important detail of how utterly fragile he thought she was. :p

Said he thought she had fragile shoulders, which is especially creepy. When they were separated and reunited for one last time after Desi's funeral, he said something like, "you're still the person with the most fragile shoulders I've ever seen." Yeah, well . . . hmm. I suppose there are worse fetishes you could have.

Michele

StreetAngel95 04-30-2010 05:16 PM

I'm reading the preview on googlebooks now-

i love how CAH describes Lindsey's hands - with long fingers, strong, but like the hands of an artist
i always thought Lindsey's hands were interesting.
And Rumours-era Lindsey sounds sooo adorable! Like i was reading it, and wished that it were Lindsey with his arms around me...*sigh*...ok, sorry, i went into teenage fangirl mode

vivfox 04-30-2010 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by StreetAngel95 (Post 887446)
And Rumours-era Lindsey sounds sooo adorable! Like i was reading it, and wished that it were Lindsey with his arms around me...*sigh*...ok, sorry, i went into teenage fangirl mode

Speaking of older men...
Miranda, are you also attracted to Grandpa on The Munsters?

Sahara 04-30-2010 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 887424)
I've never read the book because it was stolen from the Library. They tried to get it from another location and that copy was stolen too.
I'm not interested in buying it either.

Who on earth would want to steal that? Twice?? It's kind of specific!

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Originally Posted by StreetAngel95 (Post 887446)
And Rumours-era Lindsey sounds sooo adorable! Like i was reading it, and wished that it were Lindsey with his arms around me...*sigh*...ok, sorry, i went into teenage fangirl mode

You're allowed to do that, Miranda, because you ARE a teenage fangirl.
The rest of us have no excuse ;)
(though I'm still twenteen, do I count? :wavey:)

StreetAngel95 04-30-2010 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 887479)
Speaking of older men...
Miranda, are you also attracted to Grandpa on The Munsters?

haha...:laugh:...:o...:distress:

no

ButterCookie 05-01-2010 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 887443)
I can't believe you've not read it!!!!!


And, btw, I think "Oh no, granny panties" should be your next sheep caption!

"Oh my god, Chris! Not the cotton English granny knickers!" :eek:

goldustsongbird 05-01-2010 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 887443)
I can't believe you've not read it!!!!!


And, btw, I think "Oh no, granny panties" should be your next sheep caption!

I was just at the library the other day, but unless I go there with a list, any book I was recommended or had thought to look up is always forgotten. I'm going to read it eventually, I promise!

Done. :wavey:

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 887444)
Said he thought she had fragile shoulders, which is especially creepy. When they were separated and reunited for one last time after Desi's funeral, he said something like, "you're still the person with the most fragile shoulders I've ever seen." Yeah, well . . . hmm. I suppose there are worse fetishes you could have.

Michele

lol. wow. And at a funeral, no less.

CADreaming 05-01-2010 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by David (Post 887081)
I agree with LouieLouie!

But what keeps it from being even more fun for me is all the blurry tiny Polaroids.

For real. Looks like typical groupie pictures...

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 887444)
Said he thought she had fragile shoulders, which is especially creepy. When they were separated and reunited for one last time after Desi's funeral, he said something like, "you're still the person with the most fragile shoulders I've ever seen." Yeah, well . . . hmm. I suppose there are worse fetishes you could have.

Michele

LOL! That was so...odd, and random...Did they really have a housekeeper named Desi?!

How bizarre, how bizarre.

michelej1 05-01-2010 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by CADreaming (Post 887590)
LOL! That was so...odd, and random...Did they really have a housekeeper named Desi?!

Carol said Desi was like a mother to her and Lindsey. Sounds like the makings of a great sitcom. The rock star, his beautiful girlfriend, and the crazy housekeeper who keeps them all in line.

Michele

HomerMcvie 05-02-2010 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 887581)
I was just at the library the other day, but unless I go there with a list, any book I was recommended or had thought to look up is always forgotten. I'm going to read it eventually, I promise!

Done. :wavey:



I think I own every FM book. I constantly read at work, until we got wifi about 6 months ago. Now, it's just more needles, in my online addiction! :lol: Facebook is evil!

Made my day! :wavey:

goldustsongbird 05-02-2010 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 887700)
I think I own every FM book. I constantly read at work, until we got wifi about 6 months ago. Now, it's just more needles, in my online addiction! :lol: Facebook is evil!

Made my day! :wavey:

Even Mick's book? More entertaining than facebook, though. I didn't even keep mine for two weeks. :p

Nico 05-02-2010 08:06 PM

I'd say the book was definitely an interesting read because it had a lot of information on things we would otherwise not know about. However, I dislike her quite obvious subjective portrayal of events: she's the innocent angel and everyone else has issues. I don't respect people who shade over their own transgressions when writing autobiographically. If you've chosen to go down that path, do it completely and fairly or don't do it at all. And if you must hide the horrible stuff then don't bring up everybody else's because it's too obvious.

Stevie came off as a flake in the truest sense. And I'm sure that wasn't by accident.

I thought Lindsey came off very human. He definitely had/has issues, but that is par for the course with brilliant artists. They are so fascinatingly screwed up in many ways. Anyway, I'll always adore the fact that he has said nothing about this and continues to live his life without a care in the world about CAH or her book.

I forgot how the other members were depicted, but I think I remember Dennis Wilson being a manwhore of sorts, or was that someone else's book?

HomerMcvie 05-02-2010 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 887749)
Even Mick's book? More entertaining than facebook, though. I didn't even keep mine for two weeks. :p

Oh, Mick's is probably my favorite! Storms would be #2. I've got "Rumours" book, some FM discography book, Mick's coffee table picture book(two copies actually - the first one I bought was factory shrink wrapped, and I couldn't bear to open it). I think I've got one other, too......

My best friend just deleted his FB, even though his friends were begging him not to. He's a little paranoid, tbh, and he felt like everyone knew his business, because of FB.


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