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Stevie's in need for a #1 hit.
Could Stevie,have a number one solo hit these days on the pop charts?Hum, That a good question.From the upcoming CD.Or even a new kicka$$ number one country tune on the country charts that out weight Taylor and the other country gals.,feel like crap.
Have a fresh hit,not a remix like Dreams. |
I love you Mackey but that is so highly unlikely IMO for the pop charts at least. I mean I could see a song charting but even top 10 is being unrealistic. When you consider who's topping the charts right now (Black Eyed Peas, Rihanna, Lada Gaga) I do not see Stevie in that mix by any means. And, how often do you see a legend like Stevie end up back in the pop charts after the height of their career? I mean Whitney Houston made a good attempt recently and Cher did it in the 90's (and MJ after his death) but help me out here if you can think of any others. The only way I could see it potentially happen is if she collaborated with one of today's stars. I could on the other hand see her releasing an album with new material and it making an impressive debut on the album charts.
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The album as a whole I could see doing decently ( a la Eagles LROE), but a single? uh- I don't know. It would be amazing, but I don't see it happening.
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I'm sorry, but no way.
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She'd have to write about a rudeboy not being able to get it up while prancing around shaking her boobs into the camera. All the while dressed in a black swimsuit with bat win- oh... wait.
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I hate to say it but I also think that that's extremely unlikely. Personally I'm amazed and thrilled by how many young people seem to love her music. But that's tens or hundreds of thousands, not millions. The "millions" are buying Britney Spears and Lady GaGa and Miley Cyrus, and from what I've seen literally are not even aware of who Stevie is, or at best, only vaguely aware. And the majority of consumers who would be buying CD's, etc., are young people. So it's just simply not possible, in a very literal sense. I'm sure the Record Executives would say at some sort of meeting, "The numbers speak for themselves" and then rush to the store to buy Bella Donna and drive home and tell their kids, "You have GOT to hear this it is SO good!!!" (They may love her music personally but I think we're very lucky that she even still has a chance to get a cd out at all, considering the current state of "the business.") Besides, I think it's fair to say that Stevie is not currently "up" on modern (2010-era) music, in terms of the style she writes in - and that for the most part, that hasn't really even affected her work all that much in the past. So personally I feel she's FAR from being "out of it" - - - but number one? I just can't picture that. |
I think she could with the right song. She is Stevie Nicks. She can do anything. However it will be extremely hard. I think a collaboration would be easiest for her, but you never know she may pull a Cher and top the charts like none other. Actually, I was driving the other day and blaring Edge of Seventeen and I thought, holy ****, this song is almost 30 years old but it is still so current. I think if they remastered Bella Donna and rereleased Edge as a single today, it could have the potential to top the charts again if it got proper airplay. As for new music, it just needs to be something catchy. She could definitely appeal to the masses if she started trying.
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Not likely, but stranger things have happened.
Maybe one of her songs will reach the top - but not sung by her. Take for instance I just read the next no.1 album on billboard is going to be a "Glee" album of Madonna songs?? What is Glee? I know it's a tv show and they sing on it, but could someone explain the popularity of this? I don't get it. |
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Example: watching The Dance, Landslide comes on. Sacred moment to us, or me at least, and this 14 y.o. girl says "I like the newer version better. this version sucks." I had no idea what to say, other than "This is the version." Then it got painfully awkward... |
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On topic-I see a #1 hit being very releastic, but not the hot 100. Maybe adult alternative or pop. Her popularity is about half and half. Half the people know her, and half don't at all. I can honestly see her blowing up the clubs again, or just coming out with a rock song for F***s sake!! |
Last time Stevie had a #1 Pop Hit was w.FM/ Dreams in 1977!
Stevie has never had a #1 solo hit, just a handful of top 10 & top 40 hits, and a few that got airplay that were never ever released officially. Stevie has a more consistent record on the upper region of the charts as an album artist! 4- #1 Albums : Bella Donna, Rumours, Mirage & The Dance. 7- Top 10 Albums: The Wild Heart, OSOTM, TISL, Fleetwood Mac (self-titled), Tusk, Tango & SYW. 4- Top 20 Albums: Rock A Little, Behind The Mask, Fleetwood Mac Live & Greatest Hits. So, I think she has a better chance of charting another Top 10 Album, than a #1 single by a thousand miles.......:nod: I would just be happy if she charted a Top 40 pop single & at this stage in her career....that alone would be a feather in her cap :woohoo: For her to have a resonable hit, she would definitely need to go trendy, ala Cher w. "Believe" & Madonna w. "4 minutes". have a hip and current collaborator, and the song would need to have a beat above mid-tempo. So given that recipe, I'd prefer her not even try! And besides she already tried this route w. TISL, and it didn't work. I want Stevie to be true to herself as an artist, and put out a strong effort that is both classic and a new direction as Dave Stewart pointed out in his Tweet, and if she did have the accidental hit....all the better. |
I also don't know if I would like to "share" my Stevie with younger generation of today. I just don't see them ever appreciating her like we do even if she did have a #1 hit on the pop charts today (which won't happen). I do however think that Stevie would relish the idea of having a #1 hit since that's something she's never accomplished before so for her I would sacrifice my not wanting to share her :nod:.
* a solo grammy and/or lifetime achievement award wouldn't hurt either |
If Stevie released an internet-only iTunes single, and all her fans bought it the first week it came out... she could crack the top 20.
It would then fall off the charts entirely the following week. |
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I think all the ones that are worried or upset that a younger generation may know Stevie’s music only because of cover songs (Dixie Chicks “Landslide” or Destiny’s Child “Bootylicious/Edge …) or that they will never truly appreciate her songs the way we do, I think are missing a bigger picture here. If no one covered Stevie’s music at all, that would mean even less people would forget or never know about her as time goes on. Besides, having someone do a great cover such as the Dixie Chicks is only a good thing (and not to forget, more $ for Stevie). As far as Madonna and Glee, I never watched the show UNTIL they did The Power of Madonna. I thought it was great, and very clever the way they incorporated her songs into a storyline. It wasn’t just a bunch of kids singing her songs, the episode told a story and had something to say - I could only wish they would do this for a full hour of Stevie’s music - it would be awesome.
Oh, and like most have said, it’s highly unlikely Stevie will ever have a #1 single (let alone a top 40 hit) unless it’s a fluke, like if it was in a hit movie and happened to be featured prominently in the film or something like that. I was thinking Stevie’s best bet would be to make a country album. I think the voice she has now is probably most suited for that type of music. Then again, country music fans are very loyal and may reject the idea of somebody now trying to cash in on the country scene, even though she has always been a little country. |
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No can't happen in 2010. You will never have 10 - 20 yr olds listening to a 60+ year old in a massive way.
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Think about this. Landslide and Silver Springs didn't even make the top 40.
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No this is when the Dance was hot and Fleetwood Mac was hot. Plus, Peacekeeper wasn't played from Say You Will and it was a great song. Nicks couldn't buy a hit if she wanted too. They won't play her on pop, even if you request her. Believe me, I've tried. |
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Up until late 1998, the Hot 100 chart formula did not include airplay-only singles. Silver Springs was not released as a CD single in the United States- therefore, despite its massive airplay in Fall '97, it was ineligible to chart. Landslide got a rather anti-climactic CD single release in the states in Spring '98 (I forget the exact date)- but by that point, pretty much all the momentum from The Dance (and any spins on Top-40 radio) had dried up. The only reason why it flirted with the Top 50 (I think it peaked at #51?) was the remix they threw on the single. |
The reason this seems so unlikely, is because the quality of music in the top 100 these days, is lacking, ummm EVERYTHING that made music great!!!
I mean, most of the top singers today, stripped of all synthetic help, cannot sing!!!! It's sad, but the days of turning on a top hits station and finding pure, good music, seem to be over! So, the true artistry, and talent of people like Stevie Nicks, Fleetwood Mac, Heart, The Eagles, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and the like, would be completely and utterly overlooked and misunderstood by most of this generation! ..sorry for the rant...this is a HUGE soapbox for me. |
I'm an 18 year old NZ born Australian and I slightly bed to differ.. Rumors just re surfaced in our catalogue charts to #4..
AUSTRALIA TOP 50 CATALOGUE ALBUMS CHART - APRIL 19, 2010 12x Platinum "Rumours" in week 9 on the Catalogue Chart is down 3 spots to #9. "Rumours" 2010 Catalogue Chart Run #38 - Week of 2/22/10 #16 - Week of 3/1/10 #08 - Week of 3/8/10 #09 - Week of 3/15/10 #08 - Week of 3/22/10 #04 - Week of 3/29/10 #04 - Week of 4/05/10 #06 - Week of 4/12/10 #09 - Week of 4/19/10 Fleetwood Mac's 5x Platinum "The Very Best Of" moves down to #42 on the Catalogue chart. Total weeks on the Chart = 23. Now thats nothing to go by but is after the Aus/NZ tour and Taylor Swift incedent. I think there is a strong enough base of people that potentially could cause a no. 1 hit here in Aus.. Just prob not on the pop charts maybe Adult Contemporary Top 50.. But if an album/single comes out I don't doubt she'll crack the 10's... I dunno :lol: |
Also you truly have no idea the people my age that appreciate Stevie and the Mac the way you do.. I agonize over being born in the 90's.. And missing years of Stevie.. I've had to cram the last 40 years into 7... As embarrassing as it is I cried when I was told to put my camera away.. I would've given the world to film her singing Storms in Melb.. And then when she didn't give us Silver Springs, again, I could've died (especially since I told everyone within a 10 metre radius there was 1 more song to go "Silver Springs").. I spend what little money I have left over at the end of the week to buy canvas pictures of her or any thing I can find Stevie.. She is the poet in my heart, my beauty.. Age does not discriminate against our girl.. There is a lot of us my age suffering from todays music scene and we cherish Stevie' Dylan', Jimmy Page, Petty, Hendix, Cat Stevens, Old Pink and all the rest.. I swear I'll do everything I can to take this music beyond Gen Y.. My son sings Stand Back and can recognize any pic or song of Stevie so theres a start... Big rant really but it COULD happen :wavey:
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I'd like to think yes, it could happen. But not if she keeps singing 'Stand Back' or 'Landslide' every time she's on tv! How much damned money does she get for performing those songs on tv so damned much, anyway! I'm mostly ignorant as to how BMI pays songwriters for televised performances for self-penned hits, but I think aired performance songwriting royalties are based upon on sales and accumulated airplay over the years, which explains why we get 'SB' so much.
She blew it a few years ago not singing 'Rock and Roll' on the Superbowl Pre-Game show, she sang 'SB'- The single for 'Rock and Roll' was just shipping to radio, and nobody but her biggest fans knew she'd covered it, so it wasn't like radio was gonna get any requests to 'play the Stevie Nicks' Led Zep cover" because no-one knew it was going to radio because she chose to sing 'Stand Back during a tv audience to millions of people... It was really, really stupid of her. Though she didn't really nail 'R&R' on her 'Crystal Visions' release, it still had at least some hit potential, had people known- It did nothing. 'Rock and Roll' was much better a couple of years later on Soundstage, but it was only included on the dvd, and not on the cd, so no potential hit, there. 'Crash' and yet another 'Landslide' got sent to radio. She'd need some people willing to tell her the truth, that she doesn't promote new product to it's full advantage by relying on her back catalogue so much, the 'Say You Will' promotion on 'Today' also had Fleetwood Mac relying on their hits and only singing 2 new songs, and not the really goodnew songs from the album! Cher's #1 selling song of the year in 'Billboard' had a huge headstart by being #1 in many Euro markets before the US release, and she was 52 and 53 at the time, not in her 60s. It's nearly impossible for any big star to get airplay after they're 39! (Janet Jackson a while back, and Mariah Carey, last year, suddenly became playlist poison!) I'd like to think Stevie could really have a smash, but she really needs strong killer songs and a great album to promote who she is and can be, not who she was. The 'Ellen' performances were really tragic. Talk a little less about the past in the same way that we all know so much about, and really be the great songwriter-singer that she is, and yes, she could have a really big album with several hits. Continue pr0motion in the same way as 'TISL', 'SYW' and 'The Soundstage Sessions' and people will not get that she has new magic and future classics to offer. |
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Sorry, but you really must be living in Dreamland. You contradict yourself in your post somewhat, If Janet & Mariah are radio poison as you put it (and they are), then Stevie does not have a chance using that logic. Stevie best shot of having a comeback semi-hit were with TISL or SYW, and that sadly now is past her. If your realistic, you'd realize that the masses (not ledgie's) remember Stevie & FM for their past hits and nostalgia.. period. The fact that Stevie is still respected, creative & married to her work, allows her to have the opportunity to still record. It's a pipe dream to think Stevie, now a 60+ yr. old singer, is going to have this massive comeback on the charts. She banks now on touring & always has, even when the hits were there, but especially now. Time to wake up from dreamland, Stevie's chance of having a modest hit at this point would be a fluke. If these new recording's end up being a new release, I expect a respectable chart debut, and total sales well under 500K (realistically probably more like 100k to 250k) which, in the new world of the music business is admirable for a classic artist of Stevie's generation. She is lucky, Stevie has the best chances out of all her peers (Heart, Pat Benatar, Linda Ronstadt, Debbie Harry (Blondie) to name a few) to have that opportunity here and now. Here's hoping Stevie becomes the Etta James of her generation and records & tours occasionally well into her 70's. |
Stevie needs to do a rap.
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Here's how Mama can achieve a Number 1 single:
-Collaborate with a hot young act whose initials are not T.S. Lady Gaga, for example. -Go the Cher route: Euro-disco! Whip out the vocoder, samples, auto-tune, etc. And give us that pulsating Eurotrash technobeat! -Record a Dianne Warren power ballad for a blockbuster action adventure movie, and play it over the closing credits. -Record the theme song for a hip premium cable TV series and post clips all over YouTube. -Do all of the above AND appear on American Idol. |
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Christopher, you're right. I was kind of 'in dreamland'- thinking that I'd "like" to say a hit can happen, perhaps contradicting myself, as you wrote. I don't think it really will happen for Stevie, " a #1 hit", especially the way she tends to promote new product by also promoting her catalogue.
There are rare exceptions to the '39' rule that Mariah is now facing, which years before also seemed to end Janet Jackson's long run of airplay (for mostly mediocre, at best, songs that became hits), once she hit 39. Yet, there was her Cherness in her 50s, with the top-selling single of the entire year. Other 50-somethings had albums that sold millions. Hit singles? I don't remember any besides 'Believe'- With Stevie having classic rock radio stations as a possible outlet, which the above singers don't have, I'd like to think a great Stevie song could get some airplay and become a hit. The reality seems bleak, though. So, I tend to agree with you, actually. |
I like that Cher tune,but Stevie does not need a computer or vocoder to enhance her voice.but she could add the Euro-disco beat to the tune.
Look at Tina Turner back in 1984 ,she sold records like hot cakes with What's Love Got To Do With It .I dont know about rap,but country singer Tammy Wynnette had a hit with Justified & Ancient with KLF in 1991.I thought that was cool ,and I like it too. |
I think Stevie could have a huge hit if she did the type of song that can be played at weddings and graduations and such...I think Stevie doing a song like "I Hope You Dance" would be very well received. I think the public looks to her for that type of "Landslide" ballad wisdom.
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