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michelej1 03-28-2010 01:17 PM

Trouble in Wickhambreaux
 
[Ah Chris, come home to FM where things are peaceful. Stevie and Lindsey never threatened you with poly-tunnels]

Express Co. UK, March 28, 2010
http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/...-ripped-apart-

THE ROCK STAR, THE 'NASTY' BB CONTESTANT AND A VILLAGE RIPPED APART

By Ian Read

AN IDYLLIC village is being shaken by a row between a retired rock star and one of Big Brother’s most *notorious contestants.


This time, however, “Nasty” Nick Bateman, kicked out of Big Brother’s first series for his double-dealing with his housemates, is not seen as the villain. That role is being assigned to Fleetwood Mac’s Christine McVie, who wrote Don’t Stop, which became President *Clinton’s campaign song.

Tensions rose after Ms McVie joined a consortium last year to buy fields next to the Little Stour river in the village of Wickhambreaux, near Canterbury in Kent. She has lived in the *village for more than a decade and was worried that the fields near her home would be used for unsightly poly-tunnels. However, her consortium promptly fenced off the fields, denying the *villagers access to the river.

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The furious residents are calling for the fences to go. Particularly angry is “Nasty” Nick Bateman, whose family home is now owned by Ms McVie.

As a boy he played by the stream and feels the rock star has let down the villagers. “The consortium promised to keep the land as it was,” he says. “By putting the fences up the *children are *unable to enjoy the river.

“It was hoped the consortium would gift the land to the village so it could be enjoyed as it has been for hundreds of years. It didn’t *happen.

“Other landowners bequeathed lands to the village and Christine McVie could have done the same.”

The author of How To Be A Right Bastard is also angry with fellow *villager and consortium member Mark Perkins, an investment consultant. Mr Perkins and three friends outvoted Ms McVie to put up the fences.

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“Perkins acts like Mr Toad,” said Nick, referring to the arrogant and impulsive character from Wind In The Willows. “He used to live in the village a long time ago but returned to live here two years ago. He tells people he lives in the community but he isn’t part of it. People try to be civil with him but he just doesn’t listen.”

Residents are also angry because an old willow tree was cut down by the consortium.

Since 1964 Mrs Emmy Watts has lived close to the spot where the willow tree once stood. She said: “I’m heartbroken and horrified. The flood ditches are filled in and the children are unable to see the wildlife here. I’ve spoken to Mr *Perkins about it but he doesn’t want to know.”

Ms McVie, now 66, left Fleetwood Mac in 1997 and now guards her *privacy ferociously. Her palatial home is surrounded by high hedges and big fences and she rarely emerges except to walk her dogs. She hasn’t been photographed for a decade.

In an interview 10 years ago she said she enjoyed shopping in *Canterbury without being mobbed.

A pair of water engineers wanting to check drainage on her land were told to go away because she didn’t want to see anybody.

Opposite her home the drainage ditch filled in by the consortium can be seen. Further down the lane a small stream burst its banks. Local *councillor Brian Staley, who represents Wickhambreaux, Seaton and the nearby village of Ickham, said the drainage ditch was a vital run‑off for flood water .

“The willow tree was a popular landmark but according to Mr *Perkins it was taken down for health and safety reasons. Legally he might be in the right but morally he is wrong,” he said.

“A lot more communities will be affected like this as the Church Commission sells off land to finance its activities.”

Mr Staley said villagers are mounting a concerted push to get the land village green status so no development can take place on it and the fences have to be removed.

Canterbury City Council has confirmed it is investigating the loss of the tree.

A spokesman said: “Mr *Perkins will have to prove the tree was dangerous and he will have to replace it under the terms of the conservation area status.”

Zimbabwean businessman Mr Perkins claims the compensation culture is at the root of the decision to put up the fences, to avoid legal action from people who might injure themselves while on the land.

He said: “None of us set out to be landowners when this process began but since it started we have had to look at our obligations. The decision to put up one fence has been made by the consortium .

“I can understand where the emotion is coming from but I have to take advice on liability. In this compensation culture we live in we have to cover all eventualities.”

Relations between the rock star and the rest of the consortium are strained. Local people believe Ms McVie now wishes she had bought the whole parcel of land rather than joining the group.

Mr Perkins said: “The majority of owners decided the fence must go up. I do not talk to Christine McVie. She is totally independent.”

michelej1 03-28-2010 01:19 PM

Christine has not been photographed in a decade? Well . . .

Michele

Gailh 03-28-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 879791)
Christine has not been photographed in a decade? Well . . .

Michele

Hasn't she really? Perhaps those photos were of Helen Mirren after all :lol:

No point in pretending we don't know exactly where she lives now then is there?

Sounds to me like Christine didn't want the fences put up but was outvoted.

This sounds like a storm in a tea cup (with a chocolate Hobnob)

Gail

ButterCookie 03-28-2010 02:13 PM

That Big Brother wannabe should feel bloody privileged that Christine owns his home. The villagers complain now, but they'd be even more riled up if the land had been used for poly tunnels.

I might only be 16 but when I was little I could climb a fence to get to a river if I wanted to play, surely kids can still climb? Hmmpf I really can't imagine Christine making a fuss over a kid playing so what is there to complain about.

jbrownsjr 03-28-2010 02:44 PM

All she wants is to be left alone... is that too much to ask? Jeez

michelej1 03-28-2010 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 879793)

Sounds to me like Christine didn't want the fences put up but was outvoted.

Yes, that was strange. Bateman seemed like Christine was the one keeping the poor little children away from the river, then when you read on it seems she voted against the fences and is not in accord with the other consortium members.

Michele

michelej1 03-28-2010 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 879797)
All she wants is to be left alone... is that too much to ask? Jeez

To be fair, she needs to let the man in to check her drains!

Michele

jbrownsjr 03-28-2010 06:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 879806)
To be fair, she needs to let the man in to check her drains!

Michele

ONly if they whistle SYLM while they do it..

goldustsongbird 03-28-2010 06:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 879793)
This sounds like a storm in a tea cup (with a chocolate Hobnob)

Gail

Duck in the kitchen not included.

HomerMcvie 03-28-2010 09:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 879797)
All she wants is to be left alone... is that too much to ask? Jeez

Of course it's not too much to ask.
I've always said that if I won the lottery, big time, that I'd either buy my own island, or about 500 acres of woods. with my house right in the middle of it.
I totally understand her desire for privacy!

aleuzzi 03-29-2010 12:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 879805)
Yes, that was strange. Bateman seemed like Christine was the one keeping the poor little children away from the river, then when you read on it seems she voted against the fences and is not in accord with the other consortium members.

Michele

Yeah, I noticed this, too. For Christine who probably doesn't want to get involved in any politics, as it would draw her into relations with others, this article has to be a big annoyance. She can't win either way--no matter how she voted she would be cited as "the bad guy" here.

Maybe she should write an album about it...

michelej1 03-29-2010 12:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 879825)
Duck in the kitchen not included.

Hmmm. Christine never said how that ended. She realized that she never got that kind of delivery service in Los Angeles, picked him up and threw him in a pot.

Michele

Gailh 03-29-2010 12:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 879947)
Hmmm. Christine never said how that ended. She realized that she never got that kind of delivery service in Los Angeles, picked him up and threw him in a pot.

Michele

I reckon the duck saw her zesting an orange and legged it

Here's an article from a local newspaper

http://www.kentonline.co.uk/kentish_...on_fences.aspx


Gail

ButterCookie 03-29-2010 12:56 PM

Quote:

Janis Volckman wrote:

Seaton Marsh

I walk past Seaton Marsh every day. Within a matter of weeks a beautiful meadow has been turned into an Essex Girl's garden! I'm waiting for the garden gnomes to arrive! I can't wait for the day that Seaton Marsh is declared a Village Green. Janis Volckman, former Essex girl now Wickhambreaux woman.
Ahem :shocked:

Quote:

Paul Harris wrote:

Seaton Marshes

Good that a local celeb has got behind this, this look like a problem that needs that kind of backing.
I get the impression he doesn't realise that a former member of Fleetwood Mac lives in his village.

Talking of back garden's, it still escapes me just why other people in Britain get such bad cases of NIMBY.

Sleepless-Child 03-29-2010 01:35 PM

Funny to read this, when you know what he was saying about Chris Mcvie, 10 years ago...looks like friendship didn't last :)

http://findarticles.com/p/news-artic...36274010/pg_2/

Anyway, I don't see Christine as the "bad guy".
I'm surprised that no one seem to know who she is, I mean CHRISTINE MCVIE !
Even on the Wickhambreaux Wikipedia article, it is mentioned that Nick Bateman lives in the village, but nothing about her.

ButterCookie 03-29-2010 01:38 PM

Quote:

Bateman likes to boast that he and McVie are friends and that she has repeatedly invited him around to the house for dinner.
Well I'll bet he can forget that happening again :shrug:

Gailh 03-29-2010 01:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ButterCookie (Post 879961)
Well I'll bet he can forget that happening again :shrug:

I doubt if it ever happened in the first place. I mean the times I've been to hers for dinner and I've never seen him :laugh:

Gail

Sleepless-Child 03-29-2010 02:10 PM

Quote:

I doubt if it ever happened in the first place. I mean the times I've been to hers for dinner and I've never seen him

:laugh: Right. I don't think it happened neither, I mean Christine Mcvie, the legend, having dinner with...a random Big Brother guy. Definitely not.

HejiraNYC 03-29-2010 03:05 PM

I'm not sure why Chris is so concerned about the "poly-tunnels." She's already got cows (and presumably the fragrance of cows) in her backyard. Plus, it's not like she could see anything beyond her tall hedgerow, that is, assuming that she even goes outside. NiMBYism, indeed!

Ulpian 03-29-2010 03:18 PM

This article smacks of the very worst about the UK: village politics and stupid, lazy journalism.

From the article, it appears Christine did not vote in favour of the fences. Therefore Nick Bateman and the manipulative journalist are traducing the reality of the situation.

No wonder Christine - if any of this can be believed - doesn't want to see anyone; they cannot be trusted.

:mad:

seekerj 03-29-2010 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrownsjr (Post 879797)
All she wants is to be left alone... is that too much to ask? Jeez

I know, right?

Gailh 03-29-2010 04:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HejiraNYC (Post 879986)
I'm not sure why Chris is so concerned about the "poly-tunnels." She's already got cows (and presumably the fragrance of cows) in her backyard. Plus, it's not like she could see anything beyond her tall hedgerow, that is, assuming that she even goes outside. NiMBYism, indeed!

What cows?

Wickhambreaux is a very lovely olde worlde English village. All it really needs is a duck pond and some merrie peasants dancing round a maypole and the image would be complete. Poly tunnels would be ugly but it is an agricultural area .

Gail

Gailh 03-29-2010 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 879988)
This article smacks of the very worst about the UK: village politics and stupid, lazy journalism.

From the article, it appears Christine did not vote in favour of the fences. Therefore Nick Bateman and the manipulative journalist are traducing the reality of the situation.

No wonder Christine - if any of this can be believed - doesn't want to see anyone; they cannot be trusted.

:mad:

Totally agree

Gail

seekerj 03-29-2010 04:26 PM

Some dumb questions...

What's a poly-tunnel?

What's a nimby?

ButterCookie 03-29-2010 04:34 PM

NiMBY is Not In My Back Yard. Horribly common in the UK.

Not 100% sure about a poly tunnel but I'm guessing laying them, or whatever, involves construction work and general disruption to the village.

jenniferuk 03-29-2010 04:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seekerj (Post 880005)
Some dumb questions...

What's a poly-tunnel?

What's a nimby?

Polytunnel is a type of greenhouse, it's a plastic covering over plants. In the UK they are used a lot for berry planting. I'm not sure if there is an American English equiv or not. Here is a pic:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polytunnel

michelej1 03-29-2010 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 879988)
This article smacks of the very worst about the UK: village politics and stupid, lazy journalism.

From the article, it appears Christine did not vote in favour of the fences. Therefore Nick Bateman and the manipulative journalist are traducing the reality of the situation.

No wonder Christine - if any of this can be believed - doesn't want to see anyone; they cannot be trusted.

:mad:

That's true. When Bateman initially opposeed the consortium, it was a very small blurb in Big Brother news. See, http://www.digitalspy.com/bigbrother...-campaign.html.

But then when you insert Christine's name, distort things a bit and paint it as some sort of preservationist feud, it gets more attention.

Michele

Dodfather 03-29-2010 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ulpian (Post 879988)
This article smacks of the very worst about the UK: village politics and stupid, lazy journalism.

From the article, it appears Christine did not vote in favour of the fences. Therefore Nick Bateman and the manipulative journalist are traducing the reality of the situation.

No wonder Christine - if any of this can be believed - doesn't want to see anyone; they cannot be trusted.

:mad:

I completely agree! By the way Ulpian, where in Scotland are you?

MacMan 03-29-2010 07:30 PM

Here's the article from the paper - with what looks like a recent photo of Christine.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1...fleetwo.th.jpg

michelej1 03-29-2010 08:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MacMan (Post 880081)
Here's the article from the paper - with what looks like a recent photo of Christine.

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/1...fleetwo.th.jpg

Why'd they say she hadn't been photographed in 10 years if they are running with that photo? Thanks for posting this.


Michele

Gailh 03-30-2010 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 880102)
Why'd they say she hadn't been photographed in 10 years if they are running with that photo? Thanks for posting this.


Michele

Looks like she was taken unawares with that one

Gail

joe 03-30-2010 07:58 AM

When I clicked on the link and saw the smaller thumbnail, I knew it probably wasn't going to be a good pic of her. As I clicked on it to enlarge, I had a feeling I shouldn't be doing that. I was right. Not to pick on Christine at all but reality sets in when you haven't seen an older celebrity for a few years and then you see a candid shot. She really is looking older...

Did you notice what's on the dog leash?

"One of us has no balls." lol.

Gailh 03-30-2010 08:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joe (Post 880194)
When I clicked on the link and saw the smaller thumbnail, I knew it probably wasn't going to be a good pic of her. As I clicked on it to enlarge, I had a feeling I shouldn't be doing that. I was right. Not to pick on Christine at all but reality sets in when you haven't seen an older celebrity for a few years and then you see a candid shot. She really is looking older...

Did you notice what's on the dog leash?

"One of us has no balls." lol.

She is 66. It was clearly a very blustery day, she had no make up on and was probably papped - what do you expect?

the dog lead is brilliant.

Gail

Tango 03-30-2010 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gailh (Post 880198)
She is 66. It was clearly a very blustery day, she had no make up on and was probably papped - what do you expect?

the dog lead is brilliant.

Gail

Papped? As in "pap test"? Please help a few of us Americanized English speakers, please! :lol:

jenniferuk 03-30-2010 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango (Post 880205)
Papped? As in "pap test"? Please help a few of us Americanized English speakers, please! :lol:

Papped is to get photographed by paparazzi. No doubt the tabloid photographers were waiting in the wings to get a shot of her...they love to catch a celebrity off-guard.

Gailh 03-30-2010 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tango (Post 880205)
Papped? As in "pap test"? Please help a few of us Americanized English speakers, please! :lol:

Sorry - "papped" - had her picture taken by the paparazzi

Gail

HejiraNYC 03-30-2010 09:57 AM

Seems that Christine is at that point in life where she has to decide between the "fanny or the face." There's no question that a few more kilos would fill out her face quite nicely. Otherwise, gravity can be relentlessly cruel.

That being said, I think Christine doesn't look too bad considering she isn't wearing a stitch of makeup, her hair is an unkempt mess and she's squinting into a "who farted?" grimace. Admittedly she has always had the kind of face that can take on a lot of makeup, so it can be quite startling when she is going out and about "naked." I do have to admit that I prefer seeing her like this than the surprised, frozen expression she sported for The Dance. I suspect that even today, she could still clean up quite nicely and be ready for a photoshoot!

Gailh 03-30-2010 10:05 AM

She's retired now and I'm sure she doesn't want to be bothered with a stupid tabloid rag like the Sunday Express who seem to want to make a story out of nothing.

Gail

seekerj 03-30-2010 11:35 AM

Thank you to everyone who responded to let us Americans know what those British words mean!

I wish I had you all with me when I watched the movie "Snatch"!!!!

Gailh 03-30-2010 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by seekerj (Post 880237)
Thank you to everyone who responded to let us Americans know what those British words mean!

I wish I had you all with me when I watched the movie "Snatch"!!!!

Did Guy Ritchie direct that?

Gail


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