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Ms Moose 02-28-2010 05:29 AM

Trail Across Britain 2010
 
Just for the documentation:

Opera House Buxton february the 18th: (very bad recording, but still it has "something" - the tone?....)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PyUm...eature=related

Holmfirth Picturedrome february the 20th:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p9_TAOq5OXE

Ms Moose:woohoo:

greenmanastrat 03-01-2010 08:30 AM

Love it!
 
Sounds great im really looking forward to seing him on the 12th in nottingham :blob2:.
Only my 2nd time ever proper excitied!

dino 03-02-2010 05:12 AM

Have anyone seen one single review of the concerts? Apart from the one Mrs Moose shared here earlier. It's just weird, though I've read that the quality of journalism is slipping. :o

greenmanastrat 03-02-2010 06:32 AM

Off topic somewhat
 
Recorded a home demo of fool no more yesterday if anyone would like a listen

http://www.reverbnation.com/leewymer

Lots of mistakes vocally and musically i know but i think it captures the spirit

Thanking you kindly.

You may have to allow pop ups on the website to hear.:wavey:

Ms Moose 03-03-2010 10:25 AM

Phoenix Arts Centre, Exeter, Feb. 26 or 27th of March 2010
 
Sorry - just for the record: yet another Albert Ross, cut off at the end unfortunately:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcSakSz-lco

Ms Moose

Ms Moose 03-03-2010 10:40 AM

The Globe Cardiff, 24th of Feb.
 
Three new ones:

Wonderful, wonderful version of "Help Me Through The Day":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcSakSz-lco

Getting into the blues, "Steal Your Heart Away":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8878SE1pyN8

Brilliant "Blues Get Off My Shoulder":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXimqrtDrVg

It's true what Mario says: his guitar playing is getting better and better!!! (Sob, sob...)

Ms Moose

Ms Moose 03-03-2010 11:01 AM

Help Me Through The Day
 
Sorry I made a mistake and put Albatross from Exeter in instead. I get so excited with this new stuff: Here is Help Me Through The Day:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSHYnqYwJAY

Wonderful, wonderful....

Ms Moose

Mario 03-03-2010 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms Moose (Post 874780)
Three new ones:

Wonderful, wonderful version of "Help Me Through The Day":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcSakSz-lco

Getting into the blues, "Steal Your Heart Away":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8878SE1pyN8

Brilliant "Blues Get Off My Shoulder":

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CXimqrtDrVg

It's true what Mario says: his guitar playing is getting better and better!!! (Sob, sob...)

Ms Moose

Yes, it is...and his voice still a little bit weak, yet so bluesy and soulful......

Mario 03-03-2010 05:54 PM

Help Me Through the Day : I think Leon Russell wrote the song for Freddie King, who recorded it on "Woman Across The River" Peter recorded the song for "Blues Don't Change"

Steal Your Heart Again: this is a Bobby Parker song, even recorded by the Moody Blues as a single; Mike Dodd told me that the Friends version is based on the cover Cliff Bennett did back in the 60's

Blues Get Off My Shoulder: I'm pretty sure both Bobby Parker and Dee Clark recorded this song, but I can't remember who is the songwriter...any help/input?

Mario.

dansven 03-03-2010 05:54 PM

These clips are stunning! :shocked:
Cool to hear new songs. I think that's "necessary" for Peter. To keep changing the setlist and keep things fresh. That was (I think) a problem with Splinter Group. Very little variation in their shows.

Here's a new "Rattlesnake Shake" Very powerful. I can't hear what Peter says after the third verse. :woohoo:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bogbrush.../0/PnZ_cwGyjq4

dino 03-04-2010 03:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mario (Post 874842)
Blues Get Off My Shoulder: I'm pretty sure both Bobby Parker and Dee Clark recorded this song, but I can't remember who is the songwriter...any help/input?

Mario.

Bobby Parker is listed as the composer on BMI.

All three clips are great - what a beautiful guitar tone!

Ms Moose 03-04-2010 04:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansven (Post 874843)
These clips are stunning! :shocked:
Cool to hear new songs. I think that's "necessary" for Peter. To keep changing the setlist and keep things fresh. That was (I think) a problem with Splinter Group. Very little variation in their shows.

Here's a new "Rattlesnake Shake" Very powerful. I can't hear what Peter says after the third verse. :woohoo:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bogbrush.../0/PnZ_cwGyjq4

Holy Mackerell, Dansven. Thanks for the clip. I can't hear what he is saying either, but it is great that he can allow himself to be spontaneous. Somehow Oh Well and Rattlesnake are not in his voice level (it's become deeper of course), but what the hell. He seems to take it humorously (around 00:30).
Blues Get Of My Shoulder for instance hits the voice level (I don't really know how to write this in english - y'know what I mean...) so it also hits the heartstrings of the listener better.

Beautiful, beautiful tone. The Friends must be in heaven playing with him.

Ms Moose:woohoo:

mzero 03-04-2010 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms Moose (Post 874960)
Holy Mackerell, Dansven. Thanks for the clip. I can't hear what he is saying either, but it is great that he can allow himself to be spontaneous. Somehow Oh Well and Rattlesnake are not in his voice level (it's become deeper of course), but what the hell. He seems to take it humorously (around 00:30).
Blues Get Of My Shoulder for instance hits the voice level (I don't really know how to write this in english - y'know what I mean...) so it also hits the heartstrings of the listener better.

Beautiful, beautiful tone. The Friends must be in heaven playing with him.

Ms Moose:woohoo:


unbelievable! i take back wishing to hear him play jumping at shadows. let the man play whatever he wants. who else would have come up with these choices? its way better this way

zero

ps is geraint back playing keys?

doodyhead 03-04-2010 01:43 PM

smiling peter, doodyhead doctor
 
Thanks muchly for all this new footage

It would appear that peter seems to be having a good time back in Great Britain.
I think there is something to what was said about not getting stale with material.
its great to hear him do some or these songs live

this stuff is pure bliss. thank you

I noticed on some of the youtube comments someone posted (I have to think it was a doctor)
that peter should get his throat checked out for polyps.

quote: Old singers have often lumps on their vocal cords. If left untreated, they may prevent the singer from exercising his profession. Peter Green has been singer more than 40 years
There is a treat.after that single operation it might be possible to hear Peter Green sing still once more laud and clear.
If You want to know more, google: nodulus plicae vocalis. (and inform P.G.)



what do you think?

this is a real doodyhead question

JonsonP 03-04-2010 04:51 PM

Great new clips; on Help Me Through The Day, Peter's guitar starting about 4:00 is sublime, especially at 4:25 :]..!!

Jonson

dansven 03-04-2010 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by doodyhead (Post 875004)
Thanks muchly for all this new footage

It would appear that peter seems to be having a good time back in Great Britain.
I think there is something to what was said about not getting stale with material.
its great to hear him do some or these songs live

this stuff is pure bliss. thank you

I noticed on some of the youtube comments someone posted (I have to think it was a doctor)
that peter should get his throat checked out for polyps.

quote: Old singers have often lumps on their vocal cords. If left untreated, they may prevent the singer from exercising his profession. Peter Green has been singer more than 40 years
There is a treat.after that single operation it might be possible to hear Peter Green sing still once more laud and clear.
If You want to know more, google: nodulus plicae vocalis. (and inform P.G.)



what do you think?

this is a real doodyhead question

I don't think Peter sounds as if he's having nodules on his vocal cords.
But I'd gladly give him a free indirect laryngoscopy and find out!

I'd say Peter's diagnosis is this: Blues voice:D

doodyhead 03-04-2010 05:36 PM

blues voice indeed
 
Thanks Dr D

I wondered at one time if his voice had "cracked" but I have since listened to the way he sings and I have grown accustomed to his older voice. He sounds more like a "bluesman" than ever.(Apologies to politics of correctness)

I would love to have the nuance that his voice has. I would more likely get a hold of the sound guys to come up with a better strategy for miking him , but maybe I am too critical, especially since I am not listening to the house feed.

vinnie c

slipkid 03-05-2010 12:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dansven (Post 874843)
These clips are stunning! :shocked:
Cool to hear new songs. I think that's "necessary" for Peter. To keep changing the setlist and keep things fresh. That was (I think) a problem with Splinter Group. Very little variation in their shows.

Here's a new "Rattlesnake Shake" Very powerful. I can't hear what Peter says after the third verse. :woohoo:
http://www.youtube.com/user/bogbrush.../0/PnZ_cwGyjq4

I now officially apologize for my knee-jerk reaction to videos with bad visual quality. They have brought back "Rattlesnake Shake", wow! I love how Peter plays the original live '69/'70 closing riff as his mini-solo before the actual ending. It's one of the greatest rock/blues riffs ever created.

Ms Moose 03-05-2010 11:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mzero (Post 875001)
unbelievable! i take back wishing to hear him play jumping at shadows. let the man play whatever he wants. who else would have come up with these choices? its way better this way

zero

ps is geraint back playing keys?

According to their MySpacepage it is Geraint Watkins. A great musician in his own right!

Ms Moose

Ms Moose 03-05-2010 11:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slipkid (Post 875165)
I now officially apologize for my knee-jerk reaction to videos with bad visual quality. They have brought back "Rattlesnake Shake", wow! I love how Peter plays the original live '69/'70 closing riff as his mini-solo before the actual ending. It's one of the greatest rock/blues riffs ever created.

Yes it is great hearing him play that famous rhytm-tempo-whatever shift that closes Rattlesnake Shake off. It still has so much energy, and all you see is him sitting there like a zen-struck Buddha....amazing. I think this is where Mick Fleetwood used to get a bit lost, according to his biography.

Ms Moose

bjornense 03-05-2010 11:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JonsonP (Post 875037)
Great new clips; on Help Me Through The Day, Peter's guitar starting about 4:00 is sublime, especially at 4:25 :]..!!

Jonson

Also a sublime sweet short lick at 2.00 on Steal Your Heart Away

kowk 03-05-2010 12:33 PM

a delightful performance :)
 
I am delighted by Peter's beautiful guitar playing and feeling.
His music makes me happy and heals my heart and soul.
So I want more such great clips :):)

dansven 03-05-2010 12:37 PM

You're welcome, doodyhead :)
Indeed Peter has a voice full of emotions.
I can't think of many others who can sing like he does on "You'll Be Sorry Someday" and "Cruel Contradictions" and so on...

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms Moose (Post 874960)
I can't hear what he is saying either, but it is great that he can allow himself to be spontaneous. Somehow Oh Well and Rattlesnake are not in his voice level (it's become deeper of course), but what the hell. He seems to take it humorously (around 00:30).

I agree that "Oh Well" and "Rattlesnake Shake" don't fit his present voice that well. I thought the same when Splinter Group did "Rattlesnake". But still great to hear. This one is a bit more loose than with the SG ... more similar to how it was done with F.Mac.

I remember when Peter was with the Splinter Group. He sometimes used to switch the line about Mick to fit their drummer, Larry Tolfree. He'd sing "I know this guy, his name is Larry..." and then something more that I don't remember, which rhymed with "Larry". It was cool! :cool: I have it on bootleg someplace.

Anyway, the other "new" songs with the Friends really suit his present voice and singing. Excellent stuff!

slipkid 03-08-2010 12:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms Moose (Post 875196)
Yes it is great hearing him play that famous rhythm-tempo-whatever shift that closes Rattlesnake Shake off. It still has so much energy, and all you see is him sitting there like a zen-struck Buddha....amazing. I think this is where Mick Fleetwood used to get a bit lost, according to his biography.

Ms Moose

It was the tempo/time change that confused Mick Fleetwood. Yet you can tell by 2/70, the band was a well oiled machine that had this song down.

I've heard my fare share of "Lovelight's", "Dark Star's", "Mountain Jam's", and "Whipping Post's". This jam never bores me compared to the above. There's one "Dark Star" with a bossa nova jazz jam from Cleveland 10/31/71 that only comes close. It's a true shame that FM could've become the established British version of the "jam band". The only jam bands today I like come from the Allman Brothers influence (Gov't Mule, Widespread Panic, etc.). Phish has corrupted an entire generation with derivative nonsense. It's ashame that today there is no British jam band thread of influence to follow Peter Green's Fleetwood Mac. Had the original +1 band lasted another year or so, I think rock history would be slightly changed, for the better.

Ms Moose 03-09-2010 01:22 PM

Black Magic Woman i Cardiff
 
Here is the latest one from The Globe in Cardiff. mzero, on this you can see Geraint play keys!

Black Magic Woman:

http://www.youtube.com/user/bogbrush.../0/wUU3s4vwq_k

I think these clips from The Globe In Cardiff on Feb. the 24th are great and truly wonderful. I agree with you all. But - somehow I don't like their arrangement of Black Magic Woman, and never have :sorry::
1) I don't like the Santana association (intro and outro) - because the original was superiour to that any day.
2) It doesn't suit PG's voice now.
3) It always comes of uninspired to my (cloth- some will say) -ears. The solo is jazzy - which is ok, but also a bit boring.

What do you think?

Ms Moose (looking for somewhere to hide...)

kowk 03-09-2010 01:47 PM

PG & Friends' CDs - any details?
 
Facebook.com on the PG&Friends' site somebody wrote:
Thanks PG and friends - wonderful gig in Farnham last night - utter class. How do I get hold of a CD? They were so popular they had sold out when I went to buy one.
Does anybody know any details about this CD?
Regards
Krzysztof

dino 03-09-2010 02:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms Moose (Post 875997)
But - somehow I don't like their arrangement of Black Magic Woman, and never have :sorry::
1) I don't like the Santana association (intro and outro) - because the original was superiour to that any day.
2) It doesn't suit PG's voice now.
3) It always comes of uninspired to my (cloth- some will say) -ears. The solo is jazzy - which is ok, but also a bit boring.

What do you think?

Ms Moose (looking for somewhere to hide...)


No need to take cover! :lol: Agreed that the FM original is superior, but Peter apparently likes Santana's version (even mentioning it in introductions during the SG days).
I think the Friends arrangement is tasteful (the funky blues groove intro!) , but sure, the new covers are more interesting than this old war horse.

mzero 03-09-2010 02:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms Moose (Post 875997)
Here is the latest one from The Globe in Cardiff. mzero, on this you can see Geraint play keys!

Black Magic Woman:

http://www.youtube.com/user/bogbrush.../0/wUU3s4vwq_k

I think these clips from The Globe In Cardiff on Feb. the 24th are great and truly wonderful. I agree with you all. But - somehow I don't like their arrangement of Black Magic Woman, and never have :sorry::
1) I don't like the Santana association (intro and outro) - because the original was superiour to that any day.
2) It doesn't suit PG's voice now.
3) It always comes of uninspired to my (cloth- some will say) -ears. The solo is jazzy - which is ok, but also a bit boring.

What do you think?

Ms Moose (looking for somewhere to hide...)

thanks mm! there he is, zero's other hero geraint. g. plays a nice solo

on 1 through 3, you are fearless!

zero

Ms Moose 03-09-2010 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kowk (Post 876003)
Facebook.com on the PG&Friends' site somebody wrote:
Thanks PG and friends - wonderful gig in Farnham last night - utter class. How do I get hold of a CD? They were so popular they had sold out when I went to buy one.
Does anybody know any details about this CD?
Regards
Krzysztof

No, never heard of it Krzysztof. Maybe Our Friend Mario knows :nod:
It would be nice to have a CD.....
By the way: the next commentator on the facebookpage says that they played The Green Manalishi in Farnham!

I am going to London next weekend, but can't go to Bath - unfortunately (somehow I think I would have when I was young....I would have walked, jumped, hitch-hiked, flown!!!) Would love to see PG&F in Union Chapel, London the weekend after, though. Alas, it is not to be. Good luck to anybody who is.

Ms Moose

Mario 03-09-2010 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms Moose (Post 876039)
No, never heard of it Krzysztof. Maybe Our Friend Mario knows :nod:
It would be nice to have a CD.....
By the way: the next commentator on the facebookpage says that they played The Green Manalishi in Farnham!

I am going to London next weekend, but can't go to Bath - unfortunately (somehow I think I would have when I was young....I would have walked, jumped, hitch-hiked, flown!!!) Would love to see PG&F in Union Chapel, London the weekend after, though. Alas, it is not to be. Good luck to anybody who is.

Ms Moose

No, I haven't heard about a cd available at gigs, but I know they are selling t-shirt ecc....

Even Green Manalishi in the set list is new to me, but tomorrow I will ring my friend R.Jim Greaves, as;) he went to see Greeny tonight at The Stables, Wavendon.......

Mario.

Mario 03-10-2010 11:26 AM

Just got this report from R.Jim Greaves:

Hi Mario,

The gig was excellent last night. The venue was just about full, I only spotted about 5 or 6 empty seats. The sax player (Martin Winning) now seems to be a regular in the band.
Set List was as follows :-
1 Rattlesnake Shake
2 Pretty Woman
3 Ain't Nothing You Can Do
4 Long Grey Mare
5 Steal Your Heart Away
6 Key To The Highway
7 Barefootin'
8 The Stumble
9 Dark End Of The Street
10 Can't Stop Loving My Baby
11 Off The Hook
12 Blues Get Off My Shoulder
13 Oh Well / Albatross
14 The Thrill Is Gone
15 Stranger Blues
Encores
16 Sitting In The Rain (just Peter & Mike Dodds)
17 Black Magic Woman
( I may have missed one from early in the set - the problems of trying to write in the dark!)
Peter's guitar work seemed strong and overall much better than the Splinter Group days. His voice is well past its best but was better than I expected possibly because the band aren't that loud so Peter doesn't have to shout. Mike Dodds took a few vocals too which helps (Barefootin', Off The Hook and Sitting if I remember). Crowd loved it and they were all standing and cheering at the end.
Let's hope they manage to record a gig (properly) or get into a studio and catch Peter while he's playing well.

Cheers for now,

Jim



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Ms Moose 03-10-2010 01:05 PM

R. Jim Greaves - wasn't he a footballplayer in the sixties?

Ms Moose:cool:

Mario 03-10-2010 01:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ms Moose (Post 876217)
R. Jim Greaves - wasn't he a footballplayer in the sixties?

Ms Moose:cool:

No, nothing like that, Jim wrote the Sessionography on the first pressing of
the Peter Green biography and currently writes for Blues In Britain.....:D

Ms Moose 03-10-2010 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mario (Post 876220)
No, nothing like that, Jim wrote the Sessionography on the first pressing of
the Peter Green biography and currently writes for Blues In Britain.....:D

Oh Well, I got all mixed up there :laugh: thanks Mario for keeping us up to date. R. Jim Greaves set list and rapport from the gig sounds very good. And I agree it would be great to get a prober recording and film from a concert.

Ms Moose

Mario 03-10-2010 02:03 PM

The football player was Jimmy Greaves, he played even in Italy, but was often too drunk to play.....

Jimmy Greaves Personal information
Full name James Peter Greaves
Date of birth 20 February 1940 (1940-02-20) (age 70)
Place of birth East Ham, England
Playing position Striker (retired)
Senior career*
Years Team Apps† (Gls)†
1957–1961 Chelsea 157 (124)
1961 AC Milan 12 (9)
1961–1970 Tottenham Hotspur 321 (220)
1970–1971 West Ham United 38 (13)
1975–1976 Brentwood Town
1976–1977 Chelmsford City
1977–1979 Barnet 56 (16)
1979–1980 Woodford Town
National team
1959–1967 England 57 (44)
* Senior club appearances and goals counted for the domestic league only.
† Appearances (Goals).

James Peter 'Jimmy' Greaves (born 20 February 1940 in East Ham, England) is an English former football player, England's third highest international goalscorer, the highest goalscorer in the history of English top flight football and more recently a television pundit. He is considered to be one of the finest goalscorers of his generation.

Contents [hide]
1 Playing career
1.1 Chelsea, AC Milan, and Spurs
1.2 International career
1.3 West Ham and Barnet
2 Post playing career
3 Honours
4 Statistics
4.1 Club
4.2 International Goals
4.3 Books in collaboration with Norman Giller
5 References
6 External links

Of course this has nothing to do with Peter Green, but I was a footballer...!

Ms Moose 03-10-2010 03:15 PM

Life is a game....
 
Yes Mario. I knew you used to be a footballer, that's probably why I made the connection :laugh:

Ms Moose

desmolady 03-11-2010 07:45 AM

Hi,
I'm new to this list ... just to say that I went to the gig at Farnham on the 8th - first time I've seen Peter Green since his days with John Mayall - and thought it was an excellent gig. His voice blends well with the music he now plays ... and wow, that guitar sound is still as vibrant as ever :)
Other musicians (Friends) were also great - Martin Winning I have seen several times with Mike Sanchez, and Geraint Watkins I've seen many times with Bill Wyman.
Now I want to go to more of Peter Green and Friends gigs!

dino 03-11-2010 07:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by desmolady (Post 876349)
Hi,
I'm new to this list ... just to say that I went to the gig at Farnham on the 8th - first time I've seen Peter Green since his days with John Mayall - and thought it was an excellent gig. His voice blends well with the music he now plays ... and wow, that guitar sound is still as vibrant as ever :)
Other musicians (Friends) were also great - Martin Winning I have seen several times with Mike Sanchez, and Geraint Watkins I've seen many times with Bill Wyman.
Now I want to go to more of Peter Green and Friends gigs!

Welcome! And thank you for your impressions of the gig. Very cool that you saw Green with Mayall - feel free to share your memories.

sharksfan2000 03-11-2010 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dino (Post 876351)
Welcome! And thank you for your impressions of the gig. Very cool that you saw Green with Mayall - feel free to share your memories.

I second dino's welcome, desmolady! And I know a lot of us here would love to hear your memories of Peter Green playing with the Bluesbreakers! :nod:

Ms Moose 03-11-2010 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sharksfan2000 (Post 876368)
I second dino's welcome, desmolady! And I know a lot of us here would love to hear your memories of Peter Green playing with the Bluesbreakers! :nod:

I second dino's and sharkfanswellcome: Wellcome to The Ledge! It would be really nice if you shared your memories with us!

Ms Moose


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