100 Best Albums Of The Decade
 

I'm not sure if anyone else had read this, but Rolling Stone released their "100 Best Albums Of The Decade" recently, and there is no Fleetwood Mac, or any of the artists associated with them. Say You Will, to me, is amazing and i believe deserving to be on there. Or what about Gift of Screws, Trouble in Shangri-La, or In The Meantime? Here's the link: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto..._the_decade/44

So do you all think some of the albums on there aren't as deserving? Because i certainly believe that Say You Will should be in the top ten :D

of the Decade......Not a chance,
Defo not, be lucky to even have something in the top 500

Im my opinion yeah sure GOS would be in the top 10 or 20 and SYW maybe in the top 50. But Not to Rolling Stone.

Yeah, that doesn't really surprise me that SYW is missing from the list.

I hardly like a single one of their choices.

yeah, its seems to me that they wanted to just appear hip by choosing a ton of indie albums. most of which are definitely not good.

I can't say I disagree with Rolling Stone for not including the Mac/solo albums... and that's rare. Fleetwood Mac, nor it's solo members really made any landmark albums this decade. Nobody did anything ground breaking, nobody reinvented themselves. Nobody had a breakout success. None of the albums changed the music biz. None of the albums had a lasting impact on the artists catalogue of materials. None of the albums had an impact on the genre, or influenced fellow artists. I could continue... but y'all get the point.

That's not to detract anything from the band and it's solo member's albums. I think In The Meantime, Gift Of Screws, and Trouble In Shangri La all rank among the best solo albums of Christine's, Lindsey's, and Stevie's solo careers. But that doesn't make them any more substantive in the presence of the sum of ALL albums recorded this decade. For better, worse, or indifference artists like Amy Winehouse, Coldplay, Alicia Keys, and others came on the scene in this decade, and forever changed popular music, and left an indelible mark on the entire recording scene. You just can't say that for any of the Fleetwood Mac/solo ventures.

Granted, I think some albums are definitely left off this list (Taylor Swift has single handedly reinvented Country and Pop music in my eyes)... and some albums desperately need to be taken off (do we really need multiple Jay-Z, Kanye, Eminem, Radiohead, and Dylan albums listed??). And I definitely will agree that scanning this list it's very typical Rolling Stone: elitist, pompous, out of touch, and purposefully inflammatory. But I still don't think the Mac/Solo ventures belong on the list necessarily either. :sorry:

What ones aren't good?

I think there's a lot of great stuff on that list although I'd argue why some are there and not others but that's the general purpose of lists like this: they are not definitive, they're just a bunch of opinions.

I'm surprised that anyone would have thought Say You Will would have been a contender for the decade's best. I love it and it would probably be in my list but it's not like it got overwhelmingly positive praise when it was first released. I know I didn't see many five star reviews. In fact I'd be surprised if it made it on many magazine's lists of the best albums of 2003 let alone the decade.

And Coldplay and U2! I think they've pretty much included all their releases of the past decade on there. But I don't agree it's that elitist, it is pretty predictable though.

Well I personally do not like Bon Iver, Vampire Weekend, Phoenix, or The Postal Service(I much prefer Death Cab). Plus, there are 3 U2 albums on the list, and just as previously mentioned Kanye and Eminem repeats. The only impact those two artists makes are controversial ones, as of late at least, and I have always been a huge Kanye fan. Maybe Say You Will wasn't groundbreaking, but it made just as big, if not bigger, an impact as the indie bands which did so to only the small group of people who listen to it.

Gift of Screws was probably my favorite mac related album of this decade with Say Yow Will second but it doesnt bother me that neither of those are on there. Well actually I hate greatest hits albums but theres something special about both Crystal Visions and Soundstage that they are actually up there too. But theres no way either of those 2 would or should be on that list.

But Wow the real travesty is not one of Neil Young's Awseome albums this decade made that list. Greendale was the best album of the decade hands down to me and maybe of NY's career especially if we're talking about breaking ground. Prarie Wind also needs to be on that list, since in my opinion it improves on both Harvest and Harvest Moon. And then there's his most recent album Chrome Dreams II which is nothing out of the ordinary but I just think its a danmed good album. Actually his most recent album was Fork in the Road which really really sucks, but thats a huge advantage to putting out new material almost yearly it's OK for some of it to suck. Stevie Lindsey and the gang shouls be doing the same. Just release everything and stop thinking about, your average is bound to be way better then 50 percent!

Wow I just got off on some serious tangents. Wheres Trackaghost to agree with me on said tangents.

I love Bon Iver but I actually agree with you about the others but at the same time those were hugely acclaimed albums when they were first released and a lot of people loved them. I know they were being recommended to me all the time. Certainly I'd say more people loved those albums and had them as the soundtrack to their lives than Gift Of Screws or Say You Will. You can't deny Vampire Weekend had the indie kids in a tizzy and had more of a cultural impact than Fleetwood Mac's recent projects have had in the past decade. I also don't agree that alternative acts have only a small audience, I'd say a lot of those bands, such as The Strokes and The White Stripes crossed over to the mainstream.
I also don't agree Eminem's and Kanye's impact has purely been controversial. Like them or loathe them their impact and influence on rap music has been pretty massive.

Under the Skin is the only real Mac release of the decade that belongs on a list like this -- even though I absolutely loved SYW and GoS, Under the Skin is really unique and noteworthy in that respect. It deserves to be acknowledged but probably won't be -- except as an underappreciated gem.

:laugh: Well, I have to admit I can't quite agree about Greendale, I like the idea of it but it has never been one of my favourite Neil Young albums, but Prairie Wind and Chrome Dreams II definitely. I'd go as far to say that Prairie Wind is maybe his most moving, beautiful album. I think when Neil had that brain aneurysm it really made him reflect on his life and it shows in the music big time. Also, I think Living With War is quite underrated. It's probably his most passionate, energetic album of recent years imo.
I mean, I do love Dylan and enjoy many of his recent albums but I have to admit I sometimes I think they are a little overrated because people worship Bob so much, which I know is a blasphemous thing to say to some. I would definitely like to see one less Dylan album in there and at least one Neil album.

I agree, artistically I think UTS is leaps and bounds above a lot of stuff on this list. But, apart from a few critics, it was barely noticed by the public so it doesn't surprise me it's not on this list although in deserves to be. There's nothing too obscure on RS's list. it's all pretty popular stuff despite the lack of any true pop albums on there, which is surprising.

I LOVE BON IVER AND VAMPIRE WEEKEND :laugh:

Besides that I agree with you too (argh, kanye west :confused:)

well i think that Vampire Weekend's cover of "Everywhere" is what turned me from them haha

While Say You Will is good, it's not that good.

(Ahh, so that's the band responsible for the "Everywhere" cover... I think I'll stay with Eva Cassidy's "Songbird" as the most passable Mac cover [and a fantastic one at that]... although the Dixie Chicks deserve a pass for their "Landslide". :))
Well, you know that any lists Rolling Stone produce about music are pretty suspect when they don't have FM in the top 100 bands.
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/sto...he_first_fifty
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/cov.../the_immortals
Simply shameful! Especially when Nirvana makes it at 27! :mad:
So, obviously, I'm not the least bit surprised that no FM or related solo albums made it. And I couldn't care in the slightest. Rolling Stone aren't worth listening to at all.

I'm surprise MGMT are that high up. They're okay but I didn't find it lighting up my world. I actually find that (inexplicably intentional) distortion really off-putting.

I wouldn't have put Figure 8 in as the only Elliott Smith album either. I think From a Basement On the Hill is much better but it's nice to see him represented in some way.

It's a crime that Bon Iver is so low on that list! I just could listen to that album on an endless repeat and never get tired of anything on it.

Its just different :laugh:

Amen!

Which is 1) completely ridiculous, I agree, and 2) a sign that even Rolling Stone concedes that Bruce Springsteen's "Working On a Dream" is the turd sandwich wrapped in cellophane that it is. Springsteen is a perennial favorite of theirs ( even though I love "Magic", they rate it a bit highly here) but WOAD can't even crack the Top 100. So, kudos to RS on that point.

The lack of a Neko Case album seems like an honest oversight more than anything else (at least that's what I'm telling myself)

IMO, not that it matters, but Wilco's Yankee Hotel Foxtrot was the album of the decade.

What does it say about me that I have never heard even one of these albums all the way through?!:laugh:

In what way did they forever change music? The impact was that large? What they did had already been done, only we called it Madonna, Ozzy, and Tracey Chapman.

In my opinion, artists like Amy Winehouse, Coldplay, Alicia Keys, etc brought back around the era of the singer-songwriter again. There was so much pop fluff BS going on in the late '90s early/ '00s... think of Britney Spears, Jennifer Lopez, Christina Aguilera, Backstreet Boys, N'Sync, etc were the popular acts during that time. Artists like Amy, Alicia, Coldplay, and others made singer-songwriter music popular again... and seemed to incite (or at least be a part of) a trend back towards real MUSIC. Amy single handedly made Soul music cool again, and accessible to an entirely new audience. Alicia did the same with her jazzy sound. I'm not saying these are necessarily the best or even my favorite artists of the the decade... but their impact is undeniable. Amy's popularity opened the door for other acts like Adele, Duffy, etc. Whether or not you like any of the people I've listed, I'd take ANY of them any day over Britney freaking Spears :laugh: :woohoo:.

I do have to agree that this decade has brought about no new Madonnas, Kurt Cobains, Pink Floyds, or anything truly groundbreaking. But the second half of this decade has had a decidedly welcome shift back towards artists who write their own songs, play their own instruments, and who aren't just studio creations. The Indie scene seems to be exploding... and once underground bands are going mainstream (who could have seen a weird little band like Owl City getting so much mainstream airplay? :shrug:). There's just a lot of good stuff brewing right now... a lot of potential. Yes, there are still Adam Lamberts, Lady Gagas, and crap like that... but there always has been, and always will be. Just look back at '77 for instance... the biggest singles of that year were by Fleetwood Mac, the Eagles, Billy Joel, Carly Simon... and... Debbie Boone :lol:.

Great points. Thanks for explaining. I get ya now!

Here's my top 25 of the decade. SYW is number 8! It's also my best American album of the decade.

http://rateyourmusic.com/list/johnde...s_of_the_2000s

Magic is fun but the only one that deserves to be on that list is The Rising. And I completely agree about Neko Case.

Probably that you need to listen to more music? :D

I would agree with that!

He's got the popularity that The Postal Service should have had half a decade ago if we'd had today's musical climate. He sounds so like them that it isn't even funny. I actually laughed out loud when I first heard 'Fireflies' because it is such a carbon copy. I do find it pretty catchy though and I'll have to give more of their songs a listen.

I do agree about your point that Indie seems to be coming through to something more mainstream. Or maybe it's that the mainstream is becoming more Indie?

nice list! Morrissey may indeed deserve number 1, You Are The Quarry is an amazing album :D

This makes me sad. Bon Iver is the best live performer I have ever seen, and although his For Emma, Forever Ago and Blood Bank are definitely for a specific person, that album and EP will ****ing change your life if you're that person.

I think that Radiohead, Arcade Fire, The Strokes, M.I.A., U2, The White Stripes, Coldplay, Cat Power,Yeah Yeah Yeahs, Sigur Ros (LOVE HIM), Ryan Adams (LOVE HIM TOO), Vampire Weekend (you have to admit their album was monumental), and Interpol all deserve their spots.

I'm so proud of Ryan Adams for making the list twice, but I think that Love Is Hell is stronger than Gold-- for me, personally. That cover of "Wonderwall" was a bigger deal than anything off of Gold.

They chose the wrong Kings of Leon album to put on there, IMO, and Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is good but overrated. TV on the Radio's Dear Science should have been waaaay higher on that list (best album of 2008 HANDS DOWN), along with Bon Iver's For Emma, Forever Ago and Sufjan Stevens' Illinois. While Kala is an excellent album, I don't think Arular was groundbreaking in any way, although I've grown a deeper appreciation for the record with time. I've never liked Fleet Foxes much, and Phoenix is good but not NEARLY good enough to be on the top 100. Also, LCD Soundsystem shouldn't have even made the list, let alone come up at 12th. MGMT could be in the bottom 50 for me but seriously, that album is nothing unique-- its just boppy. Ugh, this list is a little disheartening. A lot of this just isn't notable music in any way.

I'm not surprised that Fleetwood Mac is no where to be seen on this list, nor would I have wanted it. Say You Will doesn't deserve a spot and Trouble In Shangri-La just isn't what Rolling Stone was looking for in this grouping of albums. Gift of Screws, however, better molds into the criteria.... and truth be told, it would proudly stand amongst these other albums and fit in while still showing the unique spark that a record on this list SHOULD have.

Here are all the voters for the 100 best albums of the decade from Rolling Stones Magazine:

uestlove The Roots

Pelle Almqvist The Hives

Jeff Ament Pearl Jam

Nicholaus Arson The Hives

Devendra Banhart

Kevin Barnes Of Montreal

Rostam Batmanglij Vampire Weekend

Guy Berryman Coldplay

Mark Binelli Contributing editor, Rolling Stone

Mary J. Blige

Nathan Brackett Deputy managing editor, Rolling Stone

Laurent Brancowitz Phoenix

Isaac Brock Modest Mouse

David Browne Contributing editor, Rolling Stone

Jonny Buckland Coldplay

Solomon Burke

Cliff Burnstein Q Prime Management

Patrick Carney The Black Keys

Will Champion Coldplay

Brian Chase Yeah Yeah Yeahs

Robert Christgau Journalist

Jarvis Cocker

Wayne Coyne The Flaming Lips

Cameron Crowe

Will Dana Managing editor, Rolling Stone

Britt Daniel Spoon

Anthony DeCurtis Contributing editor, Rolling Stone

Dion DiMucci

Jon Dolan Journalist

Jenny Eliscu Contributing editor, Rolling Stone

Missy Elliott

Michael Endelman Senior editor, Rolling Stone

Jason Fine Executive editor, Rolling Stone

Bill Flanagan MTV Networks

Caleb Followill Kings of Leon

Jared Followill Kings of Leon

Matthew Followill Kings of Leon

Nathan Followill Kings of Leon

Nicole Frehsée Assistant editor, Rolling Stone

David Fricke Senior writer, Rolling Stone

Caryn Ganz Deputy editor, RollingStone.com

Billy Gibbons ZZ Top

Mikal Gilmore Contributing editor, Rolling Stone

Andy Greene Assistant editor, Rolling Stone

Kirk Hammett Metallica

Will Hermes Senior critic, Rolling Stone

Brian Hiatt Associate editor, Rolling Stone

Christian Hoard Contributing editor, Rolling Stone

Mark Hoppus Blink-182

James Hunter Journalist

Jim James My Morning Jacket

Nick Jonas Jonas Brothers

Craig Kallman Atlantic Records

Lenny Kaye Patti Smith Group

Mark Kemp Journalist

Kid Cudi

Ezra Koenig Vampire Weekend

Lenny Kravitz

Damian Kulash OK Go

Miranda Lambert

Adam Levine Maroon 5

Alan Light Journalist

Lil Wayne

Kurt Loder MTV

Melissa Maerz Journalist

Shirley Manson Garbage

Thomas Mars Phoenix

Chris Martin Coldplay

Mac McCaughan Merge Records

Colin Meloy The Decemberists

M.I.A.

Tom Moon Journalist

Tom Morello

Fabrizio Moretti The Strokes, Little Joy

Kevin O'Donnell Assistant editor, Rolling Stone

Yoko Ono

Jonathan Ringen Assistant managing editor, Rolling Stone

Chris Robinson The Black Crowes

Jody Rosen Senior critic, Rolling Stone

Rick Rubin

Austin Scaggs Contributing editor, Rolling Stone

Evan Serpick Journalist

Rob Sheffield Contributing editor, Rolling Stone

Mike Shinoda Linkin Park

Neil Strauss Contributing editor, Rolling Stone

Patrick Stump Fall Out Boy

John Sykes Playlist.com

Touré Contributing editor, Rolling Stone

Jeff Tweedy Wilco

Lars Ulrich

Metallica

Andrew VanWyngarden MGMT

Steven Van Zandt The E Street Band

Butch Vig Producer

Wale

Barry Walters Journalist

Gerard Way My Chemical Romance

Jann S. Wenner Founder and editor, Rolling Stone

Pete Wentz Fall Out Boy

David Whitehead Maine Road Management

Will.i.am Black Eyed Peas

Douglas Wolk Journalist

Adam Yauch Beastie Boys

Thank you. :xoxo:

I agree about You Are The Quarry--"amazing." For me, it towers above everything else this decade. But all the other ablums on my list are worth checking out. Example: Is it just me or did Bad Lieutenant listen to Gift of Screws before recording Never Cry Another Tear?

One of my favourite live shows I've seen as well. :thumbsup:Up there with Lindsey solo and Heaven & Hell as my best live performers. The show was just so fantastic. I saw him in his home-away-from-home in Galway, Ireland, from front row and he teared up while performing re:stacks. Such a good performance!

I don't really "get" Vampire Weekend either, but everyone around me does. I think Yankee Hotel Foxtrot is way better than Vampire Weekend's album, but I personally think that Wilco hasn't had quite as broad of an influence. But you're right-- this list is for the best albums of the decade, not the most influential. I stand corrected :D