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vivfox 11-27-2009 09:56 PM

Which of Lindsey's TUSK songs do you think frightened the record executives?
 
Tusk
Not That Funny
That's Enough For Me
What Makes You Think You're the One

chiliD 11-27-2009 10:44 PM

The Ledge
Not That Funny
What Makes You Think You're The One

michelej1 11-28-2009 12:29 AM

Heck, I think even Tusk , the song, was somewhat frightening to people who were expecting more Top 10 pop smoothies. Tusk is addictive in its own way as generations of football fans can tell you today, but not so enchanting in 1979 when your sensibilities are Rumours minded and you were hoping for a big Christmas bonus.

Michele

louielouie2000 11-28-2009 12:43 AM

Tusk just doesn't sound that "out there" to me. It really wasn't too different from other anthemic songs of the day from Queen and War. Here are the two that still frighten ME, 30 years later! :laugh:

What Makes You Think You're The One
Not That Funny

michelej1 11-28-2009 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by louielouie2000 (Post 857039)
Tusk just doesn't sound that "out there" to me. It really wasn't too different from other anthemic songs of the day from Queen and War. Here are the two that still frighten ME, 30 years later! :laugh:

What Makes You Think You're The One
Not That Funny

I think the execs were frightened not only by the songs that were "out there" but by those that weren't catchy. Of course, Tusk is plenty catchy, but I don't know if it's a love at first glance -- or love at first listen -- kind of thing. Actually, thinking back, after Sara, Tusk might have been the only song I liked upon first listening to the album. I don't remember if I embraced Think About Me immediately or not, but of course, I love Think About Me and Angel today.

The songs of Lindsey's that are not punk are just so long and slow. I think they also would have scared the pants off of anyone eagerly hoping for something with a hook. Slap SMAP. Michele

Lala 11-28-2009 01:26 AM

I'm surprised no one's said The Ledge

LukeA 11-28-2009 01:29 AM

When considering the talent involved along with the climate & circumstances, "Tusk" is quite possibly the ballsiest first single of any artist ever.

michelej1 11-28-2009 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lala (Post 857047)
I'm surprised no one's said The Ledge

Chili did.

Michele

chelluversu 11-28-2009 01:31 AM

I Know I'm Not Wrong...

aleuzzi 11-28-2009 01:31 AM

Well, one of the strangest things about Tusk its track sequencing. I'm not sure how the songs could have been rearranged to make a more "logical flow" from one track to the next--and I'm not sure such a flow would be desirable. But I do know nothing is stranger than hearing "Over and Over"--a pleasant, glossy, easy-listening tune--followed by "The Ledge", which is one of the most weirdly-arranged/performed songs in rock-n-roll. The juxtaposition of those two tracks at the album's outset seems to encapsulate the spirit of the entire project: two bands working in one, chafing against one another and each benefitting from the other's presence.

LukeA 11-28-2009 01:38 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 857053)
The juxtaposition of those two tracks at the album's outset seems to encapsulate the spirit of the entire project: two bands working in one, chafing against one another and each benefitting from the other's presence.

Very true. I'd also suggest/point out that "The Ledge" would sound even more jarring/out of place if it was sequenced into any other part of the album. Example- switch it out with "That's Enough For Me", and you'll find the flow is not exactly completely interchangeable.

Lala 11-28-2009 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by michelej1 (Post 857051)
Chili did.

Michele

Apparently I'm not interested in reading today. Oops!

Meowi 11-28-2009 02:10 AM

I reckon Save Me A Place. How I wish they continued the White Album/Rumours theme :(

holidayroad 11-28-2009 02:19 AM

Maybe it's because I didn't hear the complete Tusk album until 1988 or because I'm such a total fan of Lindsey, but I don't really think the album is that far out there. Yes, it is different than Rumours, but it's not completely away from a soft rock sound.

holidayroad 11-28-2009 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Meowi (Post 857073)
I reckon Save Me A Place. How I wish they continued the White Album/Rumours theme :(

'Save Me a Place' was the only song I wish Lindsey had never done. I have no idea why he thought it was suitable for any album.

louielouie2000 11-28-2009 02:32 AM

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Originally Posted by aleuzzi (Post 857053)
Well, one of the strangest things about Tusk its track sequencing. I'm not sure how the songs could have been rearranged to make a more "logical flow" from one track to the next--and I'm not sure such a flow would be desirable. But I do know nothing is stranger than hearing "Over and Over"--a pleasant, glossy, easy-listening tune--followed by "The Ledge", which is one of the most weirdly-arranged/performed songs in rock-n-roll. The juxtaposition of those two tracks at the album's outset seems to encapsulate the spirit of the entire project: two bands working in one, chafing against one another and each benefitting from the other's presence.

Oh Lord, that's nothing compared to Sara being followed by What Makes You Think You're The One :laugh:. I kinda think the transition from Over And Over to The Ledge is kinda fun. That transition is kinda like, "ok... this is going to be a fun ride." I still find Sara->What Makes You Think You're The One jarring and obnoxious... because Sara totally blisses you out, sends you off into dreamland, and then WHAM! you're slapped out of it :laugh:. But I guess that's part of what makes Tusk, Tusk.

louielouie2000 11-28-2009 02:36 AM

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Originally Posted by holidayroad (Post 857082)
'Save Me a Place' was the only song I wish Lindsey had never done. I have no idea why he thought it was suitable for any album.

I was of this train of thought until I watched the Tusk Documentary. The way Lindsey sang and performed the song in the studio versions was just so great! I kinda hate what it morphed into. The way Lindsey has been performing the song on his solo tours lately has made up for it though. :D

Sleepless-Child 11-28-2009 06:06 AM

I'd say The Ledge too.

Quote:

'Save Me a Place' was the only song I wish Lindsey had never done. I have no idea why he thought it was suitable for any album.
I don't understand, it's such a beautiful song :shrug:

EnchantedKiwi 11-28-2009 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Sleepless-Child (Post 857125)
I'd say The Ledge too.



I don't understand, it's such a beautiful song :shrug:

It just sounds like someone complaining annoyingly :laugh:

Sleepless-Child 11-28-2009 08:46 AM

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It just sounds like someone complaining annoyingly

:laugh: Ok, maybe a little, but I like complaining too, so It sounds great to me :D. Seriously, am I the only one who loves that song ?!

Nico 11-28-2009 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by holidayroad (Post 857082)
'Save Me a Place' was the only song I wish Lindsey had never done. I have no idea why he thought it was suitable for any album.

No you didn't say that. Oh, woe is me. :shocked: That's OK. I will respect your completely entitled opinion, even if totally disagree and think it's one of LB's most beautiful songs.

Do you at least like the live version?

GypsySorcerer 11-28-2009 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by holidayroad (Post 857082)
'Save Me a Place' was the only song I wish Lindsey had never done. I have no idea why he thought it was suitable for any album.

Blasphemy! ;)

SMAP is gorgeous to me....that aching, sense of yearning.

To answer the original question:
WMYTYTO
Not That Funny

Sahara 11-28-2009 02:38 PM

This thread title just made me laugh out loud. 'Frightened' is the word!

I think The Ledge is probably the weirdest one on there. Tusk itself is very odd, but we're all so used to it now that it doesn't stand out so much.

It took me a long time to appreciate Lindsey's songs on Tusk, it's only now that I'm really rediscovering them. Loving it :D

holidayroad 11-28-2009 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sleepless-Child (Post 857125)
I'd say The Ledge too.



I don't understand, it's such a beautiful song :shrug:

The words are great, but something in the music...too slow, out of tune...I don't know! It's the only song of Lindsey's that I dislike!

holidayroad 11-28-2009 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by GypsySorcerer (Post 857148)
Blasphemy! ;)

SMAP is gorgeous to me....that aching, sense of yearning.

To answer the original question:
WMYTYTO
Not That Funny

Sorry!:o I certainly have tried to make myself like the song as it appears on the album, tried to find something in it I missed before, but it never sounds much better. I agree that the version I heard on the Tusk documentary is Far better!

holidayroad 11-28-2009 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Nico (Post 857141)
No you didn't say that. Oh, woe is me. :shocked: That's OK. I will respect your completely entitled opinion, even if totally disagree and think it's one of LB's most beautiful songs.

Do you at least like the live version?

The live version is much better!! All I can say is that at least it is the only song of Lindsey's that I can say anything bad about!!

fleetwoodguy79 11-28-2009 07:43 PM

I vote for "The Ledge". Only due to the fact that it's the second song on the album.

After "Over and Over", which is a typical subdued and crisp Christine McVie tune, anyone listening to the album has to go "W..T...F... is this??". Perhaps Lindsey was going for shock value!

michelej1 11-28-2009 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by fleetwoodguy79 (Post 857251)
I vote for "The Ledge". Only due to the fact that it's the second song on the album.

After "Over and Over", which is a typical subdued and crisp Christine McVie tune, anyone listening to the album has to go "W..T...F... is this??". Perhaps Lindsey was going for shock value!

Hmmm. That's interesting, when I make a comparison and consider that Time Precious Time is the second song on GOS. While TPT is not shocking, it does take the album on an abrupt turn from the opening song. Fasten your seat belts. It's going to be a bumpy segue.

Michele

MoonWaterPoet 11-28-2009 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 857015)
The Ledge
Not That Funny
What Makes You Think You're The One


Those are my exact picks also... ;)


Donnie Wayne ~

Black_Moon 11-29-2009 05:43 PM

I'd say The Ledge. If Lindsey was bitter on Rumours, he's falling apart by Tusk.

I like the sequencing of Tusk, it makes things interesting. Sure, it could be ordered logically but then the listener would slip straight into the music and find it an easy listening experience. Which, was the thing Lindsey probably tried the most to avoid.

StandbackStevie 11-29-2009 11:30 PM

The only song I think would be for me with lindsey from tusk that the executives might have went what?? on is.

Not That Funny

goldustsongbird 11-29-2009 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StandbackStevie (Post 857494)
The only song I think would be for me with lindsey from tusk that the executives might have went what?? on is.

Not That Funny

If the album version didn't scare them, I'm sure they needed an extra pair of pants after seeing it on the Mirage tour.

HomerMcvie 11-30-2009 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by goldustsongbird (Post 857502)
If the album version didn't scare them, I'm sure they needed an extra pair of pants after seeing it on the Mirage tour.

All that f*cking screaming! WTF was he on? Sweet baby Jebus!!!! Oooh oooh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Lindsey, stfu!!!


I'll bet NTF is the reason Mirage hasn't been re-released on video! :p

AliceLover 11-30-2009 05:56 PM

Save me a Place, The Ledge, and Walk a Thin Line frightened them. Honey Hi and Never Forget made them vomit.

Black_Moon 11-30-2009 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceLover (Post 857598)
Save me a Place, The Ledge, and Walk a Thin Line frightened them. Honey Hi and Never Forget made them vomit.

:lol:

The only qualm I have with Tusk (after all it is perfect) and it's minor, is that I wish Never Forget wasn't the last song. I don't want the album to end on such a calm, lovey note. I wish That's All For Everyone was the closing track.

Meowi 11-30-2009 07:03 PM

I tell you what's scary:
Lindsey's rendition of Never going back again on the Making Of Rumours

goldustsongbird 11-30-2009 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by HomerMcvie (Post 857519)
All that f*cking screaming! WTF was he on? Sweet baby Jebus!!!! Oooh oooh ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! Lindsey, stfu!!!


I'll bet NTF is the reason Mirage hasn't been re-released on video! :p

I used to think it was hot. :o :rolleyes: Then something clicked and I was like, um. stfu. But I do enjoy him and John sharing a joint while jamming!

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Originally Posted by Meowi (Post 857613)
I tell you what's scary:
Lindsey's rendition of Never going back again on the Making Of Rumours

unnnnggg-BEEEN DOOOOOWN ONE TIIIIIUMMMMM
ngggggg BEEN DOWN TWOOO TIIIIIIUM
NGGBUGHJDhfkl THREE TIIIIIUUUUM

That's what I heard, anyway. ;)

aleuzzi 11-30-2009 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by AliceLover (Post 857598)
Honey Hi and Never Forget made them vomit.

Doubt it...

belladonnadream 12-01-2009 10:33 AM

The Ledge......

dnightshade 12-01-2009 12:51 PM

Tusk, believe me.


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