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chriskisn

11-03-2009 08:26 AM

Gotta love that Mr Welch!

This is why I love Bob...

Actually I was going to just post the above video, then I found the following one which I hadn't seen before:

jenniferuk

11-03-2009 09:07 AM

Thanks so much for sharing--hadn't seen either of these.

holidayroad

11-03-2009 10:51 AM

I really enjoy Bob a lot. His work with Fleetwood Mac is standout and his solo work is enjoyable. I wish he would put out more new material. I would love to see him live but haven't had the chance!

chiliD

11-03-2009 11:04 AM

That video of "Green Manalishi" is from the Don Kirshner's Rock Concert TV show (I was in the audience during the taping of that episode...it was my first experience seeing Fleetwood Mac live) Doug Graves on B-3 & synths. Christine with shawl, long before ever meeting Stevie Nicks...so who influenced whom in regards to the "shawl stage regalia"???

AHA! That's where they got the cover photo for The Best Of Bob Welch CD. (The "Ghost Of Flight 401" promo video)

JEEZ! DJ Jim Ladd looks like he's about 19 in that interview!

jbrownsjr

11-03-2009 12:45 PM

Thank You Thank You Thank You

nicepace

11-03-2009 03:07 PM

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Originally Posted by holidayroad (Post 851703)

I wish he would put out more new material.

Have you been to bobwelch.com? There are many songs to download, all free. Some are "new" songs (never recorded for release through the usual channels). Some are live, some are demos. Quality varies. Some are great new songs that are hits in a parallel universe somewhere! So ... what are you waiting for? Get going! LOL

Oh, and these videos are great. I'd seen the "Green Manalishi" before but not the "Flight 401." Bob looks (and sounds) fabulous in that clip!

vivfox

11-03-2009 04:04 PM

Who is the other keyboard player on Hypnotized?

Jim Ladd was a hottie!

holidayroad

11-03-2009 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 851743)

Thanks for the reminder! I used to visit that site in the late '90s. I've only been back online less than a couple of months and I keep forgetting to check his site out!

nicepace

11-03-2009 04:16 PM

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Thanks for the reminder! I used to visit that site in the late '90s. I've only been back online less than a couple of months and I keep forgetting to check his site out!

The late '90s? Wow. You mean back in the Paleozoic era? LOL

Bob Welch has one of the best sites around! He's directly involved in everything that goes on the site. He reads this message board, too.

chiliD

11-03-2009 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 851752)

Who is the other keyboard player on Hypnotized?

Jim Ladd was a hottie!

"Hypnotized"??? You mean "Green Manalishi"??

holidayroad

11-03-2009 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 851757)

The late '90s? Wow. You mean back in the Paleozoic era? LOL

Bob Welch has one of the best sites around! He's directly involved in everything that goes on the site. He reads this message board, too.

I had a Webtv back in 1999-2000. I didn't have home internet access again until this September. I remember asking Bob which videos he had made for his songs in an e-mail. He actually e-mailed me back and I was so happy that he took time to do that!

goldustsongbird

11-03-2009 07:50 PM

Bob is a BAMF.

aleuzzi

11-03-2009 10:01 PM

I never saw that second clip before. Interesting. That second song would have really been something with John, Chris and Mick backing him, I think.

vivfox

11-03-2009 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 851787)

"Hypnotized"??? You mean "Green Manalishi"??

OMG I actually did say Hypnotized!!! :eek:

Who is the other keyboard player on Green Manalishi ?

chriskisn

11-04-2009 04:47 AM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 851757)

Bob Welch has one of the best sites around!

Bob just needs to learn a bit about putting things in order, its like trying to fight your way through the jungle in their sometimes.

nicepace

11-04-2009 07:19 AM

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Bob just needs to learn a bit about putting things in order, its like trying to fight your way through the jungle in their sometimes.

You do have to get ready to scroll when you visit Bob's website. Bob's website is like an old rambling mansion ... with all sorts of rooms and closets and niches where you can find good stuff. I like its layout a lot better than many websites that are full of flash crap and annoying animations.

chiliD

11-05-2009 11:05 AM

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Originally Posted by vivfox (Post 851828)

OMG I actually did say Hypnotized!!! :eek:

Who is the other keyboard player on Green Manalishi ?

As I had previously mentioned in an earlier post in this thread, that's Doug Graves on B-3/synths (leaving Christine to concentrate solely on the acoustic & electric piano parts)...he was replaced later in the '74 tour by Welch's old Head West pal Bobby Hunt. Doug was one of the assistant engineers on Heroes Are Hard To Find...he passed away sometime later (as Welch mentions in one of his Penguin Q&A's)

Neb-Maat-Re

11-05-2009 08:39 PM

[QUOTE=chriskisn;851678]This is why I love Bob...

As I said in another post, I just love that clip at about 0:24 where Bob's fingers run up the fretboard like a spider.

chriskisn

11-06-2009 07:20 AM

Ok so these are pretty scary, but we used to think Countdown was pretty good in its day... :eek:

holidayroad

11-06-2009 08:34 AM

These are great!! Thanks for putting them up! I hadn't heard of the show Countdown before. Is it Australian?

chriskisn

11-06-2009 08:57 AM

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Originally Posted by holidayroad (Post 852363)

These are great!! Thanks for putting them up! I hadn't heard of the show Countdown before. Is it Australian?

Yes it was Australian, which makes it interesting that they mention in those clips that Bob was the guest host one week. Weird...

Surprisingly there is heaps of Bob Welch stuff to be found on YouTube...

chriskisn

11-06-2009 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 851907)

See I would describe his website like looking through Granny's attic. Most of it is worthless but occasionally you find a few gems...

nicepace

11-06-2009 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by chriskisn (Post 852375)

See I would describe his website like looking through Granny's attic. Most of it is worthless but occasionally you find a few gems...

Well, as they say, one man's trash is another man's treasure. The same is true of what you find in Granny's attic ... or Bob's big rambling website. LOL

chriskisn

11-07-2009 09:39 AM

Finally a couple of promo clips also hunted down on YouTube! So who is the woman he is kissing in Sentimental Lady? Anyone know?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UZkSf59yNI4

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnJOsfalSYs

AncientQueen

11-09-2009 02:17 PM

I'm totally igonrant as far as Bob Welsh goes, me being a fan of the Rumours era. But this year, all I wanted to hear from FM is from the "Bermuda Triangle" CD. I just love those live cuts of Bermuda Triange and Hypnotized. FM was never better, wonderful stuff. Bob is just a great musician, bringing out the best in everyone in the band. I wish LB would have that quality.

nicepace

11-09-2009 02:54 PM

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I'm totally igonrant as far as Bob Welsh goes, me being a fan of the Rumours era.

First of all, it's Welch, not Welsh. (Welsh is the witch, LOL.)

There are only five albums from the Welch era, all readily available. Buy them and listen. You will be a happier person than you were before they were in your life.

AncientQueen

11-09-2009 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 853122)

LOL, I swear that I just made a stupid typo, I know that it is Welch - and I own all of the albums, just the listening part is so far missing.

chriskisn

11-11-2009 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by AncientQueen (Post 853138)

LOL, I swear that I just made a stupid typo, I know that it is Welch - and I own all of the albums, just the listening part is so far missing.

You really need to listen to them, especially (in my opinion) Heroes, Mystery and Penguin. Bob was on the top of his game back then.

It is also worth chasing up a couple of Bob's solo albums, specifically Three Hearts and French Kiss. The rest of his solo career has, in general, been pretty hit and miss. If you don't mind the heavier stuff, the chase up the two Paris albums as well.

nicepace

11-11-2009 08:33 AM

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Good long-term advice, but don't be intimidated in the short term. Just take it one album at a time. Start with 'Future Games,' since it was the first chronologically. Just put it on and listen.

You don't have time today to listen to all five of the Welch era albums, and you don't have time today to find copies of all of Bob's solo work, but you DO have time to listen to 'Future Games.' Do it. You won't regret it. The title song was one of the defining moments of Bob's career, plus you'll get some tasty material from Christine and Danny, too.

chriskisn

11-11-2009 08:44 AM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 853478)

Hmm...do you think Future Games is the best place to start? I'd be skipping Future Games and Bare Trees and jumping right into the good stuff. Oh yeah I'll admit that Lay It All Down is perhaps one of the best Bob Welch songs of all time, but it is the one redeeming feature of the album IMO.

Personally I'd start with Heroes and work backwards but perhaps I only think that way because that is what I did.

nicepace

11-11-2009 03:32 PM

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'Future Games' and 'Bare Trees' AREN'T "good stuff"? My my, we have a difference of opinion here. LOL

I like the idea of starting with the first one and working your way up through time chronologically. It enables a new listener to hear the changes in the band in order (even if not in "real time"). I obviously like 'Future Games' better than you do, so I have no objection to its being a good starting point. And if this listener is going to learn to appreciate Danny Kirwan (an important side benefit of becoming interested in Bob's music), she will have to start with the albums that Danny is on.

But if she wants to listen to them alphabetically, or based on which cover picture she likes the best, or any other random criteria, that's fine too. The important thing is that she take any one of those records and puts it on the turntable.

Personally, I like 'Penguin' the least of the five, but when I skip the Dave Walker tracks it takes a giant leap into the top tier.

chriskisn

11-11-2009 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 853563)

Ok well I look at it this way, if you are into the Rumours era, the most accessible and similar work is the album before SN & LB is Heroes Are Hard To Find. Personally I would think that anyone starting off listening to Future Games who is a post-1975 fan would run reasonably quickly back to the safety of Stevie & Lindsey. :shrug:

Oh and regarding Dave Walker:

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 853563)

My my, we have a difference of opinion here. LOL

:lol:

chiliD

11-12-2009 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 853478)

While I agree with the "listen to them chronologically" and that Future Games would be the starting point, I don't really consider Future Games (or Bare Trees, either) to be "Welch-era" per se, despite being his first two albums with Fleetwood Mac and his writing the title track for the first album he was involved with...to me those two are "Kirwan-era" FMac albums (as was Kiln House), since Danny was the principal male songwriter for those albums...Welch just happened to be there for them and contribute a couple of songs each. Penguin is really what I consider the first "Welch-era" album (where Welch became the principal male songwriter in the band).

chiliD

11-12-2009 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by chriskisn (Post 853671)

Oh, I disagree, Chris...I think there's a LOT in Danny's work on Future Games that a fan of Lindsey Buckingham would find similar in sound & feel to what Lindsey was doing on the Buckingham Nicks album...that's PROBABLY what Mick also heard that attracted him so much to Lindsey's guitar work that fateful day. "In the back of my mind" I can hear Lindsey (with Stevie's backgrounds) pulling off a killer version of "Woman Of A Thousand Years". It almost SOUNDS like it could've been a Buckingham Nicks song as it is.

nicepace

11-12-2009 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by chiliD (Post 853751)

I agree. I think the 1975 live recordings of the band performing "Station Man" support this point.

As for when the "Welch era" began, I always just consider those five records as a unified group, not because Bob was the "leader" for all five of them, but just for convenience.

Of course there are major stylistic and musical changes within those five records, resulting from Danny's departure, the addition of Bob Weston, etc. Let's not forget that Christine is on those five albums. Her presence on those albums is what automatically makes them of interest to fans of the "Rumours line-up" and is probably the main motivator for most Fleetwood Mac fans to listen to those records.

AncientQueen

11-13-2009 02:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nicepace (Post 853775)

Let's not forget that Christine is on those five albums. Her presence on those albums is what automatically makes them of interest to fans of the "Rumours line-up" and is probably the main motivator for most Fleetwood Mac fans to listen to those records.

For me, that is certainly true. She did some of her best work during that time, but what I like most is how she is integrated into the band then, her laid back style is present AND important for the style of the band. After the "white album", her playing is greatly overshadowed by Lindseys guitar hero ambitions and his hektic (over)production basically ignored her timing and style, well, if you hear her at all under all the sugarcoat.

I would love to hear a Bob Welch FM line-up coming up with "Everywhere" in a breezy, lighthearted way.

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